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[QUOTE=flowergirl2day;4641748]Machaon,

I feel that you are absolutely right![/QUOTE]

That makes you the ONLY one! :round: My wife doesn't even think that I am absolutely right! :jester:

[QUOTE]Let me ask you a question, though. Is it possible,in your opinion, to identify and isolate the offending foods in one's diet without taking blood pressure measurements after each meal? This is not always feasible, especially if the meals are frequent and consumed away from home. :dizzy:[/QUOTE]

Well...... I can only tell you what I do and what I have learned.

First off, I very seldom take my blood pressure after a meal. I don't want my blood pressure readings to be influenced by my body's struggle to digest the food. I usually take mine upon rising, an hour or so after eating, before going to bed, when I wake up during the middle of the night, and at other random times during the day.

Sometimes it take severals hours or even a day, before the effects of an unhealthy meal, or the negative effects from a food that negatively effects blood pressure.

[QUOTE]Assuming one's blood pressure is reasonably well controlled, would it also be expected to remain within a specific range at night, every night? [/QUOTE]

Yes.

[QUOTE]Are any nocturnal deviations from the average readings a sign of less than ideal blood pressure control due to inadequate medication? Or simply an indication of an improper nutrient combination consumed just hours before the reading? Or, perhaps, related to a flare up of some other medical issue after an exposure to an irritant?[/QUOTE]

There are many MANY things that effect blood pressure, such as emotional problems like stress and anxiety; too many calories; exposure to irritants, stimulants, triggers; eating unhealthy diet; one's own circadian rhythm; defects or injuries within someone's body; etc.

That is why it took me nearly 30,000 bp readings and a decade of trial and error to relate various seemingly innocuous things, events, etc., to my blood pressure and to my worsening heart failure. It's not easy to do. I can see why you are frustrated. I have been there. I had worsening heart failure and soaring, chronic high blood pressure, and was totally confused about what was happening.

I have thought of totally documenting what I have learned, in exact detail, buts....... my memory is fading as I age and it would be a complex and very difficult task. I am already near 70, and would rather spend my years at less cumbersome tasks. But..... it can be done by others by tracking, recording and logging their blood pressures several times per day, and then trying to relate certain happenings to unusual increases or decreases in their blood pressure.

[QUOTE]I know your experience with charting your blood pressure readings is extensive and, quite likely, unmatched. It only follows that in these circumstances one gets to know one's circadian rhythm and blood pressure patterns throughout the day very well over time. I wonder how can someone like myself determine the most likely cause of blood pressure fluctuations at night. [/QUOTE]

In my case...... I noticed, quite easily, that if I consume too many carbs at night, let's say: after 8pm, I would get increased breathing problems and erratic heartbeat. Sometime around 8pm, I am convinced that my circadian rhythm kicks into it's nightly changes to my hormonal levels. I can be sitting, watching tv, minding my own business, not eating, and then around 8pm, WHAM! My heart starts to jump, I might experience breathing problems, I feel warm, etc.

Your circadian rhythm is at play 24 hours around the clock, adjusting your hormones, not just at night to put you to sleep.

I am sure that you have experienced a headache, or some other symptom, in the middle of the day, and wondered just what you did to provoke this uncomfortable event. Well..... the answer could be as simple as NOTHING! It could have just been your circadian rhythm figuring that you need a little extra or less of one or more of the 300+ hormones circulating through your body, being adjusted 24 hours per day, ALL THE TIME! :dizzy:

[QUOTE]For instance, my blood pressure readings, taken at about the same time in the last four nights were 154/97, 130/93, 148/91, 122/80 (just now at 11.45pm). I wonder if the food I ate today may have affected my blood pressure positively.[/QUOTE]

Wow! Those are mostly unhealthy readings.

The food you eat, and the things that you encounter, can effect your blood pressure for an hour or two, several hours, a day, several days...... If a food or an irritant causes too much inflammation or hormonal activity within one's body, it can take sometimes several days before that inflammation or high level of hormones, to go away. The fact that the duration can be a long one, makes it that much more difficult to track. That is why it took my so many years and so many readings.

[QUOTE]I have also wondered to what extent the amount of sugars in the fruits and vegetables we consume without even realizing it affect our blood pressure. I think it varies. [B][U]Many medical conditions result in changes to metabolism, leaving us less able to handle and utilize even seemingly normal amounts of nutrients.[/U][/B][/QUOTE]

Blood sugar is an enemy of good health, and, at the same time, necessary to life. As we age, our metabolism gets less able to handle too much blood sugar. Also, a key point, as you posted: [B][U]Many medical conditions result in changes to metabolism, leaving us less able to handle and utilize even seemingly normal amounts of nutrients.[/U][/B]

I take several blood pressure readings per day.I determine safe levels of calories by my blood pressure [B]averages[/B] over the days. When my blood pressure [B]averages[/B] over several days, starts trending lower (an obvious sign that something's up), then I know that the reduction in calories, or whatever other changes that I have made, is working.

You can't go by just one reading, because too many things can effect one's blood pressure. You have to go by average blood pressure for an entire day, and the trend over several days, IMHO.

[QUOTE]And, to me as well! There must be a good source of information we could tap into without reading dozens of studies? :D Some of the journals are good, such as the American Journal of Nutrition. Unfortunately, the full text articles are not available to the public without a subscription. :(


flowergirl[/QUOTE]

Well..... one great source of information on the Internet is all of the informative studies regarding the effectiveness of COREG (Carvedilol). Coreg is truly a miracle medication. It is a great medical discovery. The more I read about it, the more amazed I got. It is a magic bullet. It is just a wonderful medication. Buts..... sadly..... it does come with side effects. By suppressing the adrenals it tends to stifle one's energy and exercise ability. But it's curative and helpful effects way outweigh it's negatives, IMHO.

Whew...... long post. I just wish you could get your blood pressure down into a health range all the time.

I hope that you find at least something in my response helpful.

Take care, be well and have a very nice Christmas and Happy New Year! :wave:





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