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Hi, DH -

Thank you for the detailed response! I really think it's good to have support people throughout this ordeal - and it very much can be an ordeal. I'm glad we can compare our experiences, because I really don't think that anyone else (who hasn't had this experience) can possibly understand what it's like to go through.

I had my surgery on Jan. 30th - both procedures that you had, the LIS and fissurectomy. --- My burning was very intense this past weekend, and especially horrible a couple of nights ago. Really, I thought I would go out of my mind from the burning. I even slept in the spare bedroom, as to not disrupt my husband's sleep (the poor guy has been a saint throughout my fissure problem and subsequent surgery). --- Anyhow, after trying several creams to alleviate the burning (I also had reddish skin around the anal area), I finally wondered if I had developed a yeast infection down there, possibly as a result of taking too much of an antibiotic for a possible UTI. Well, things calmed down yesterday, somewhat, and a bit more so today. --- My husband did call my crs's office, and the nurse suggested trying an OTC cream, called "Prax." Walgreens ordered it for us yesterday, and we picked it up today. I don't know that it's really helping, but it's definitely not hurting anything, so far.

You mentioned taking baths . . . I've heard that baths really help, but I absolutely hate getting in the tub, and I haven't done any of that. I've done a couple of sits baths, after my first few post-op bms, but not a full-on tub bath. My crs said that tubs wouldn't help in the healing, at all, but that some people take them for comfort. --- If you're noticing that your burning worsens after the tub, there just might be a connection. Also, what you mentioned about using creams/ointments on the anal area, pre surgery - and that those products could have made your skin raw or more sensitive - I totally think that's possible, too. I've seen a total of THREE crs's - the first recommended a mixed ointment (nitro/lido), which the second crs said would damage the skin (but yet, neither of these guys thought I needed surgery) - and the third crs was finally a doc who understands AFs and how to deal with them. He said that there's no "magic ointment or potion" that will possibly heal an AF. I asked him if my AF would heal on its own, and he said it would not. He said that I could either live with it OR get it fixed. So, I opted for the later. My AF was totally ruining my life.

So, back to the creams subject - yes, I do think that some products can damage the skin down in the anal area. I didn't realize that, though, or I never would have used that nitro/lido for so long. --- To answer your question about where the burning has been -- it's been right at the end, where the surgery site is, and it kinda feels like it burns up a little in that area. It's kind of hard to tell, sometimes, because things down there are so sensitive, anyhow.

Like you, I've been mostly resting for two weeks now. Actually, my AF had me down, mostly resting (and in pain) for over three months - and now I'm dealing with post-op recovery . . . so, I'm still down and resting. Yes, I'm up, walking . . . but I'm forcing myself to, because I've had some other weird stuff going on . . . I'll explain . . . I've forced myself to get up, because I've had body aching that I thought was due to too much bed rest . . . but maybe not . . .

While thinking I might have had a UTI (which was most likely not the case, I now realize), I might have taken too much of an antibiotic -- and I suspect I might be having an adverse reaction to it. I started really feeling strange - with body aches, just a general "ill" feeling - last weekend, which is also when the intense anal burning started. --- I quit taking the antibiotics on Saturday - and I don't know if I just need to get that out of my system, or what. All I know is that I've felt weird. Two nights ago I had that terrible, eye-popping burning in the anus - and then yesterday I was nauseated in the a.m., then felt a bit better later on. This a.m. I felt pretty good - but then around noon, I started feeling sick - nauseated, with body "burning" (hot feelings traveling around my neck, back, etc.) - and then today around noon, and all tonight, I've had terrible acid reflux - just awful.

I have no idea what's going on. I'll give myself a day or two to try to shake this - but if this stuff continues, I'll have to either go to ER or to my doc and have tests done. I'm hoping this will all pass and that I'll only have my backside to worry about. It's enough to deal with post-LIS/fissurectomy surgery, without also having other things going on.

As to keeping the bm's soft, I took Miralax for a few days after my surgery - but now I've found that two stool softeners (Colace, or the generic form) a day are working just fine. --- You're so right about the fiber - it will bulk up the stools, making them too hard to pass, IMO. I've quit taking extra fiber, entirely. I do allow myself a couple of Fiber One brownies, per day - but otherwise, any extra fiber would make things much too bulky. I'm eating oatmeal for breakfast, half a sandwich (or steamed veggies) for lunch, and usually something soft for supper (pasta, etc.). I'm also drinking a lot of water - and for the past two days, I've been drinking Alka Seltzer.

I cannot stand prunes, but I force myself to eat them, if I think I need that extra fiber, without adding a fiber supplement.

I hope you're feeling better, too! I really think that (minus my other, odd physical symptoms), we are both at about the same place, with regard to our recovery. I'm taking things very slowly and trying to rest. It's still hard for me to sit, unless I sit on the soft mattress in the spare bedroom - and even then, I don't sit full on my backside -- I use pillows to prop myself to the side and cushion things.

Anyway, take care, and thanks for sharing your experience with me. I hope we both feel better and better, very soon.

Take care, and I'll keep you in my thoughts and prayers. This experience is definitely one that has turned my life upside down. I'm sure you've felt the same way.

Let me know how your dr. visit goes -- I hope everything is fine. Keep me posted. :)
Hi Tweetums :wave:

I will definitely post more later when I'm feeling less discomfort:( but I wanted to get back to you. Our recoveries sound very similar. I am now looking at a possible UTI/yeast infection. I have an array of symptoms and it is knocking me down.:eek: I woke up nauseous this morning with abdominal discomfort, had a bowel movement, and I am now lying here hoping to get through without hours of burning!! There was a slight burn but this is getting ridiculous. This has seriously been the worst discomfort of my life these past four months!

My husband has been with me every step of the way. Bless his heart. I am so thankful for him. It cannot be easy on him when he hears me scream out in pain. On a lighter, more comical note, while in the bathtub yesterday, the shower came on randomly and shot water at me while I was laying there in pain. My husband and I could not help but laugh which in turn caused more pain to my rectum. My husband is still trying to master putting my hair into a ponytail because at times of pain, I can't even do that! By pain, I mean the burning (sometimes stinging) sensation I get along the right side of my rectal area.

I see the colo-rectal surgeon today! Wish me luck! I also have an appointment to find out why I have goupy yellow/orange/rusty colored discharge that smells like rot coming from what I believe to be my urinary tract! Just yuck!

I'll post more later but I hope you are doing better than me today. I feel so sick and just want to be done with all of this. I need my life back!!!!! :dizzy:

Best wishes and I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers.
Hi, DH -

OMGosh, it sounds like you're suffering every bit as much as I have. I'm so, so sorry you're having all that pain, yuck, discomfort, and general post-op awfulness. I know exactly what you're going through, because I'm having much of the same thing over here.

I hope your doctor visit went well - both appointments.

I had a wretched, viciously-awful night last night. My acid reflux was at a raging high, and I ended up in the spare bedroom again, watching "Oklahoma" until 3 a.m. - and then a bit of "I Love Lucy" after that. All I could do was lie down, while the acid wrecked havoc on me. I got up again at 6 a.m., and I couldn't eat breakfast . . . well, let's see, I wasn't able to swallow it until later in the morning. --- Since last night, I've been taking Pepto Bismol, which is about the only thing that kinda helps when I have these attacks.

I did manage to eat half a sandwich for lunch - and also a Fiber One brownie . . . but now I'm lying down, resting my still-sore bottom, and I've having that weird lower pelvic, in-the-bones-type of soreness . . . oh, I don't know. Sometimes I wonder if I'll ever get my life back, at least somewhat normal.

Throughout this whole AF "adventure" (I re-tore the AF last Oct., then had my surgery on 1/30 of this year, and now I have the post-op yuck to deal with), I've had some type of pain to deal with, nearly non-stop. It does tend to wear a person down, emotionally.

I'm at the point where I really don't know what symptoms mean what, and which symptoms are which, etc., because it's all turning into a pain-soup down below. If it's not one thing, it's another. --- I don't think I'll be able to distinguish what is what, until/unless my bottom area heals completely. For example, though I've not had strong UTI symptoms for the past few days, I do feel twinging and some aching in that area, along with the bone discomfort that could be from sitting and lying down for so long now.

Plus, I have to fight my imagination and panic attacks about all of this. I've wondered about my vital body parts down below, thinking that maybe there's something else going on - something horrible that would cause these symptoms. This morning, while gagging up my vitamins and being unable to swallow them, I became scared about what could be wrong with me, beyond the acid reflux.

This has been the darnest experience. Before my AF re-tore (last Oct.), I was jogging, taking care of my family, and feeling really good about life. --- From a personal standpoint (this is my strictly my viewpoint, and I'm not trying to push it on anyone), this experience has made my prayer-life stronger, as well as serving to remind me not to take a single second for granted. I've also changed my diet for the better (I've probably lost 20-25 pounds), and I've re-realized that (assuming my health is good), I have nothing to complain about. So, I have gotten some good out of this -- but that said, it's also been a horrible experience.

My hope and prayer for both of us (and fellow AF sufferers) is that we can get our lives back and go on, without all of the miserable pain.

BTW, DH, I'd love to use some of the little figures and icons you're using - but I haven't figured it out . . . Would you please help me? Thanks, in advance. I'd love to personalize my posts to you, like you're doing. :)
Hi Tweetums!

It makes me feel better to talk about this with you because it sounds like you completely understand the agony of all of this.:eek: Reading your post is almost like reading my own story.  I am so sorry you had a horrific night with acid reflux.  I know sorry doesn't cut it because it was that awful.   I don't know about acid reflex, but I know a whole lot about vomiting, nausea, staying up late with pain and watching movies on Netflix to get me through.   

I take colace twice a day and Miralax daily.  I think it is about time to cut back on Miralax as I had FOUR bowel movements today and expect more before the day is over.  :(The abdominal discomfort from gas and needing to pass a stool can leave me feeling very sick.  I was so sore that I don't know how I made it to my appointments today.  We (my husband and I) carried 3 pillows to get me through. :D There doesn't seem to be a UTI or yeast infection but I do have a rectal infection.  Yikes!  I was told it is rare to get an infection after this type of surgery but I seem to fall into the exception category quite often......I did have blocked bowels for three or four days which may or may not have contributed to the infection.  I was given antibiotics so I hope this will help.  I am super thankful for my colo-rectal surgeon.  He is very sympathetic and gentle with me.  

I can relate to everything you are saying (except the acid reflux-instead it is constant bowel symptoms for me!). Before this catastrophe knocked me down, I was exercising, making healthy dinners at home, trying to conceive a child and was all around healthy. This experience has made my prayer-life stronger as well.  My husband and I have been praying daily and will be sure to include you in our prayers.  No one should have to go through this much pain and torment!  It is truly torture and difficult to describe to people who have never experienced this!  I spend most of my time summing up my experience as "rough" to friends which really doesn't do it justice.

I know what you mean by "pain-soup down below" and not knowing what symptoms go to what.  I just finished with a non-viable pregnancy ( only lasted about two weeks) and I have symptoms from that.  Four months ago,  I had an ectopic (I didn't need surgery for it as it went naturally).  Then the vaginal discharge which may have been coming from the rectum due to the infection.  Trying to explain EVERYTHING to doctors is tough because it has become so complicated and confusing.  I have to discuss all the symptoms to understand which symptom goes with which issue and which person I need to see accordingly. Ugh!:confused:

I too get pains from lying down.  I think this hopefully is normal.  I can only lay on my left hand side and after two hours,  my leg feels crushed.  I wake up in the night and can't feel my leg.  I have to move it to get circulation.  Then there are other pains that appeared out of no where in places that made me nervous.  I am going to try and walk like you're doing to get some exercise.  

The cute icons can be obtained by scrolling to the bottom of all our posts and clicking on "post reply." It brings you to a screen in which there are icons to the right hand side of the post field.  I insert an icon every now and then that relates to the topic.  My favorite is the little dizzy face in which the eyes are circling.  :dizzy:Hehe

 It feels good to be able to type to you and distract myself from laying in bed and concentrating on all my symptoms!  I hope I can be a good source of support to help you through this difficult time.  :) I understand what it feels like to have your life yanked from you.  It is not all bad as I have my husband and my cats near me constantly and I am thankful.  We have been in a hotel now for three weeks for the surgery.  It's hard not being in my own comfort zone but the people here have been very accommodating and have put me in a room with no neighbors.  This is good for both me and others as I don't think people would like random screaming when I have an episode of pain!  

After this experience,  I want to cherish every moment being happy, healthy and loving life!  Not knowing how long this will take to heal is absolutely frightening.  Just getting outside for the first time in two weeks brought me immense joy.

I hope you have a better night and get some relief!  
Good Morning, DH:wave: I'm on the west coast of the US, so it's still a.m. here.

Thanks for the icon help, btw :)

Okay, well, it seems that you made it through your appointments (not without pain, though) and got some answers about how you're doing. The antibiotics should clear your rectal infection right up -- and that infection might account for some of the discomfort you've had down below.

I slept last night - in my own bed - but it was merely the sheer exhaustion of several sleepless nights that enabled me to get any rest. I woke up about 6 a.m., made a quick bathroom trip, then headed back to bed and was able to sleep a bit more. I've been on Xanax (at night) for several weeks, because it's been the only thing that knocks me out and lets me have any rest. Last night I didn't need any - but that doesn't necessarily mean I'll be able to sleep tonight. One thing I've learned about this is that a little progress doesn't mean total progress without digression.

It's nice that you're in a hotel, able to not have to worry about keeping things going at home. And, it sounds like you have a very supportive husband. My husband is supportive, too, and I'm grateful for that.

Okay, so this morning, I awoke feeling like I couldn't turn my head without becoming dizzy. Honestly, it's just one more thing to add to the mix. My symptoms are now extending beyond just what's going on down below . . . or maybe, they're somehow a result of it . . . I just don't know. :confused: This just seems a lot more complicated than it should be. I have an online friend who had an LIS about a month ago (no fissurectomy, though), and she sailed right through her procedure and was back at work two weeks later, symptom free. For me, it's been a lot rougher than that, and I don't know if that's because I also had the fissurectomy or that my sensitive system just reacts to everything very strongly.

It sounds like you've had some other struggles and challenges to deal with, along with the AF and surgery/recovery from it. That's a lot on your plate to cope with - and IMO, it's essential that you have your faith to get your through this time in your life. My prayers and faith help sustain me, too, but sometimes I struggle to force fear out of my mind. I tend to panic, and then I'll imagine all sorts of horrible things. --- I'm trying to read the Bible every day (I miss a day, now and then), but it's going slowly - I'm still only in Exodus. I do have strong prayer people in my life - my mother and aunt are among them. They really help me, especially my aunt, who suffers terribly from diabetes and goes through more than any person should ever have to endure. Still, she stays strong - and I admire her, so much.

So, you mentioned taking Miralax and Colace during the day . . . I'm thinking that you will, indeed, be having more than one bm per day, while taking that amount. I cut out the Miralax, completely, over a week ago. I just hope that the Colace (generic form I'm taking now) continues to do its job and keeps me regular, without any problems. Last night my husband brought me dinner from the market deli, and I'm worried today that it might have been a bit heavy for my system . . . I guess we shall see. I've been so worried about keeping things smooth and easy, that I've really watched my diet very carefully - and last night I ate meatloaf and cheesy vegetables, which both seemed a bit heavy to be eating, just yet. Well, I'll just get back on the Miralax again, if need be, although I really don't like taking it. There's something about having the Miralax in my system that is upsetting to me. It just kind of throws me off, seems like, in that my bowels really react to it. --- But, that's typical for me, because my system is so very sensitive.

Next week I'll see my crs again, for another post-op visit. I hope he will cut off the stitches that remain in my surgical area. They seem to be irritating the area, and I've been tempted to snip them off, myself, but I'm too afraid to mess with anything down there. Plus, I'm still swollen, and maybe the stitches need to remain there for awhile. --- Are you experiencing swelling, still? My swelling looks a bit like a flesh-colored hemorrhoid, and I sure hope everything goes down in time and that I'll have a normal-looking anal area. I'm also still having pain, discomfort, and itching down below - and I hope that clears up, as well.

I had thought about sending you a pm here, but I haven't seen an area which allows pms . . . let me know if you have that figured out. --- Otherwise, I hope you have a restful day. It's good to share our experiences, because there's nothing like talking with someone who has gone through OR is currently going through this type of situation. I know that the people around me are trying hard to be sympathetic, but only fellow AF sufferers and post-surgery recoverers understand this journey. We all need good and understanding support people, IMO.

I'll pray for your health and speedy recovery. For myself, I pray for strength and faith in God's plan, that I'll be stronger and can fully put my trust in God's will. --- I hope we both have a better day today.:angel:
Hi Tweetums!:wave:

I am also on the West Coast. I'm hoping the antibiotics take away a lot of my symptoms.  It is hard to know whether this constant sick feeling is from one of the meds I am taking, the surgery sites, the infection or some other factor I haven't thought of!  

You do a really good job of summing up this experience!  You said,

"One thing I've learned about this is a little progress doesn't mean total progress without digression."

Friends and family ask how I am doing and this is such a hard question to answer briefly.  It seems like a roller coaster, feeling a little better one day with the hope of things looking up and then awful the next day.  Sometimes, it feels like I get a little relief and then take a giant step backward and wonder when the digressions will leave me alone and disappear for good.  :(

I'm glad you're seeing your crs soon!  Maybe he can shed some light on what is going on.  Can you actually see and/or feel your stitches?  I have been terrified to to touch that region because of the extreme discomfort but had to yesterday to put a cream on it (I think it's part of the infection healing process).  I was so grossed out by what I felt that I became dizzy like if I kept my finger down there any longer, I would pass out. :dizzy: I had a sentinel tag on my fissure-a flap like piece of skin that was excruciatingly sore.  It was removed and I don't know if it is this or something else,  but I have a swollen lump around the same area. I want to be optimistic but I am concerned that the texture of my anus will forever be changed.  My crs looked at me yesterday so it must be normal as he didn't mention my little lump.  My sutures are dissolvable so I don't know if they're even there anymore. My fissure was deep and I can't say I truly ever felt the stitches.  I can't feel my fissure site all that much other than it feels like it is there.  The incision site is still giving me all the troublesome feelings which I hope and pray in time will heal.

I feel that God has been there every step of the way and is getting me through this.  We will get through this and get our lives back.  At times,  I have felt my hope dwindling but both God and good friends/family have helped to bring it back up.  The most important gift anyone can give us is hope and support. I am here if you ever need someone to listen. Before the surgery,  I had throbbing pain episodes lasting up until 9 hours.  Sometimes, only a towel or blanket could get me through if I could use it as a bite guard.  Sometimes, screaming could help get my mind off the pain.  I don't know how I endured it.  I guess I am stronger than I thought. I understand how awful it is.

I still can't figure out a way to give you my personal email or more info about me.  My internet is a bit unpredictable at the hotel and my email works great but this forum doesn't always load for me which causes delays in me getting back to you.  I literally have to hold my iPad toward the end of my bed or center of the room for my post to go through which requires movement on my part!  Hope this made you laugh because it is quite a scene! Although, this is miserable experience,  I haven't lost my sense of humor-well, sometimes!

My husband is my hero.  We our very playful and laugh often.  He can't do anything without making me laugh which would normally be a good thing!!!!  I don't know about you but laughing too hard actually makes me hurt down there!  Just now, after the second bowel movement of the day,  I jumped in the bath because I had to try and clean the area.  It was rough!  My husband tried to help by using a plastic squirt bottle (the one used to clean myself after a bowel movement) to spray warm water on me while in my bath to help me relax and be comfortable but he didn't realize he was spraying somewhat cold water at me.  He got me in the face and my rectum just hurt from laughter!  My husband thought it was funny to untighten the lid to the plastic bottle while spraying me so it would pop off at me because he wanted to keep me laughing! Good times but my rectal area did not take the laughter easily.

Despite the laughter,  I am scared.  After the bowel movement today, my husband looked concerned because the area was very swollen.  I can't see the darn thing so it makes me worry!! How does something get this bad? :confused:The antibiotics cause a very bitter taste in my mouth so that the water I drink taste awful.  I have stopped the Miralax in hopes of going less often because I need a break from the symptoms! I didn't take any pain meds today, hoping I could get through it on my own.

Were you able to get some relief today?  I hope so. :)
Hi Tweetums!:wave:

My last post should have been sent a few days ago!  I thought it was sent and realized yesterday that it was sitting on my iPad and never went through due to the reception.  

I have been on the antibiotics now for about 4 days and it is seriously unbearable. :( I have constant nausea and everything tastes bad.  I have to be on these horrid things for 3 more days.  I hope and pray that I don't need to be on these for another week as I am just not strong enough to combat the nausea.  I'm not going to stop because this nasty infection has to go away and I can't have the culprits building a resistance.  They must DIE!  Lol. Don't they understand that I have been through enough?

My husband and I have been praying for a speedy recovery for both you and I at night before bedtime.  This is so AWFUL and that is putting it lightly.  I am glad your symptoms from the antibiotics are subsiding and I am looking forward to getting off the antibiotics myself.  I'm trying to be strong. Trying...

Are you having any kind of discharge?  Besides the infection grossness,  I still have fecal discharge after a BM and occasional blood.  It is subsiding though very slowly!  I still can't believe I fall into the "rare rectal infection" category.  I understand how difficult it is to find a good crs.  When going through the pain of an anal fissure,  I spoke to a few insensitive colo-rectal surgeons that made my jaw drop.  I finally drove 6 hours to see a crs who I believe to be another hero in my life.  I know my recovery will be rocky but I do greatly respect my crs and can't say enough good things about him.  I am really happy that you found a crs that you like as well.  We need supportive doctors while going through this.

I will keep you in my thoughts and hope your check up on Tuesday reveals that you are healing well.  The stitch hopefully won't be in issue because it has been there awhile now.  I hope it didn't cause any pain.  I still don't know what is going on with mine.I guess they should be dissolved by now. It is an area of the body I never really paid much attention to.Now, it is all I focus on.  I yearn for the day that it is healed. This experience has changed me and I will never be the same.  I get excited to go outside and will be going for a car ride with my husband today for the third time in 2.5 weeks.  

I used to love baths and now they are a constant reminder of a medical issue with my rectal area.  I don't enjoy them any more and they stopped giving me comfort.  For some reason, I fall into a small percentage of people in which baths actually aggravate the area.  My husband and I seem to have a similar routine to you and your husband with the peri-bottle.  I LOVE my peri-bottle.  Showers would be soothing but the hotel shower is rough.  The water comes down hard so it isn't an option for me.

The mention of riding a bike makes me cringe!My husband made a comment back before my surgery about getting bikes and I don't think I'll ever ride a bike again as I will always live in fear of the evil fissure that ripped away my life and the reminder that I never want to go back.  I don't understand why humans don't have stronger rectums.:confused:Mine seems rather fragile.  I wish I could hibernate until the area is completely healed.

It is a pleasure speaking to you.  I feel like we have been through a similar ordeal and it really helps get me through. I just know if we lived in the same city, I would enjoy your company!  We can bond over our rectal problems!  LOL I think things happen for a reason.  Although, I can't think of a good reason for the fissure.  Maybe it was to make a friendship but what a heck of an ordeal to go through to meet a friend!!!!:D

It looks like there have been more icons added and they added one for us! :blob_fire: LOL

Good luck with your Tuesday appointment.
Hi, DH -

Just checking in. Yesterday I had my second post-op appt. with my crs. It went fairly well - but I did tell him about the burning/itching. He said that if it continued for another week or so, I should call his office and get a prescription to ease the discomfort. --- Today I had a bit of discharge after my bm . . . I'm trying not to worry about it, but maybe I should watch my diet a little more carefully.

My crs wants me to ease off the stool softeners and intake more fiber. I mentioned to him that my stools would then be bulky, and he said that's how they should be - bulky, yet soft. (TMI, I'm sorry!) I don't know - I guess that's what I'll have to do - but I'm hesitant to wean myself off the stool softeners, just yet, especially if I'm still having a little discharge down below. My crs seems to think that I can't hurt the area down there -- but I'm still trying to be careful.

Anyhow, I hope you're doing well and feeling better. You're in my thoughts and prayers - and I wish us, both, healthy and pain-free days ahead. :)
Hi Tweetums! :wave:

I hope we both get better! I figure a lot of people are probably following our posts trying to decide whether or not to get this type of surgery and I thought I would take this oportunity to pass on what I have learned via this experience in case this should help someone out there in pain....

1) It has been a very rough recovery (as you can see from my posts) BUT if I had to do it again, I would. I have other symptoms now but do not have anywhere near the excruciating pain I had before the surgery so in that respect, the surgery helped.

2) Not everyone will have the same issues after a surgery. I got an infection that is rare to get. I received antibiotics, it has cleared up and I am getting through. Please don't discount a surgery based on rare things that could happen. If the pain is unbearable, and you have exhausted non-surgery treatments, some risks are worth it.

3) Healing times vary greatly. Some heal in one week, others in many many weeks and the healing times given are based on an average of what is seen. My healing time after the fissurectomy and LIS will be about 2 months, maybe longer but lots of people get this surgery and are better in a very short amount of time as you will see from other posts. Prepare to give yourself enough time to heal regardless.

4) Make sure you get a highly experienced, compassionate colo-rectal surgeon to help you through. You need someone you can trust and can count on. My crs has been there every step of the way and I am grateful for him. I had to go through some not so great, bitter ones before finding a gem! Don't settle for anyone who doesn't make you feel comfortable.

I'm sure I am missing some things but you have to do what is right for you and I understand what a frightening experience this can be. You are not alone.

I hope everyone finds relief for their pain. :angel: I am still recovering and pray that eventually, I can put this mean fissure experience behind me. I was lucky to find Tweetums, as she has given me support and understands the agony of a rough recovery. Thank you Tweetums!

I will continue to post my progress, hopefully with the last one being a happy I am healed post!:D
Well said, DH. That's exactly what I would write (about this experience), too.

Just because recovery for some people takes longer, it doesn't mean that everyone will take longer to heal. I really believe that because I had a fissurectomy, in addition to the LIS, it has made my recovery time longer. DH, you might feel the same way . . .

Having a great crs is very, very important. My doc is great - he listens - and even more than that, he understands the nature of the beast - the awful anal fissure monster. My doc said that I had two choices -- I could live with the fissure or have the surgery. I decided to have surgery, because no matter how the recovery would go, it couldn't be any worse than the fissure misery.

Yes, the recovery is challenging - but I do hope to get through it and feel better. Though I'm still sore and tender from the surgery, and have had some post-op issues to deal with, I don't have the stabbing, throbbing fissure pain, anymore - and that's a huge relief.

I will pray for us, all, to be healed and feel better, so that we can get on with our lives.

Thank you, DH, for being there to support me. It's great to find support on these boards, from other people who are going through the same experience.
To Tweetums and DailyHope, Your dialog has been very helpful in my recovery as I have been reading from afar. I thought I would offer some insight and hope for those considering LIS and related surgeries. I had been suffering for over a year with what was diagnosed as a fissure. Miserable existence is the most concise and efficient two word description I can come up with to describe my life pre-op. After reading on another site like this of people's horrid experiences I was afraid to move forward. I had gone to the doctor again finally fed up with the fissure pain and trying all the creams, and other non invasive methods he suggested. He ( My GP ) referred me to a surgical practice next door to him and a general surgeon at that. Being in too much pain for a digital exam, he said we'll put you out, then take a look and see whats going on. I was afraid but with much prayer and faith in God ( and my regular Dr. ) agreed. I was told to expect one of three procedures to be done, they did all three. Lateral internal sphincterotomy with fissurectomy and hemmoroidectomy. All three of which I believe I have just misspelled. My recovery was way better than I had imagined until three days later I developed an abcess which had to be drained. A horrible experience in itself. After this everything has been relatively great compared to life before. My biggest issues were pain and soreness at the incision site and itching. It has now been 4 weeks to the day of my original surgery and life is almost normal. Metamucil and stool softeners every day, lots of water, and faithful belief in God's healing power has brought me this far. I am trying to lay aside my fear of any of my problems returning but am grateful I had the surgery. Should have done it long ago. I hope you two have recovered or if not are encouraged by my story. Your dialog has comforted many I am sure. I will continue to monitor this site and hope you-all are doing well.
[QUOTE=Terryisbetter;5077812]To Tweetums and DailyHope, Your dialog has been very helpful in my recovery as I have been reading from afar. I thought I would offer some insight and hope for those considering LIS and related surgeries. I had been suffering for over a year with what was diagnosed as a fissure. Miserable existence is the most concise and efficient two word description I can come up with to describe my life pre-op. After reading on another site like this of people's horrid experiences I was afraid to move forward. I had gone to the doctor again finally fed up with the fissure pain and trying all the creams, and other non invasive methods he suggested. He ( My GP ) referred me to a surgical practice next door to him and a general surgeon at that. Being in too much pain for a digital exam, he said we'll put you out, then take a look and see whats going on. I was afraid but with much prayer and faith in God ( and my regular Dr. ) agreed. I was told to expect one of three procedures to be done, they did all three. Lateral internal sphincterotomy with fissurectomy and hemmoroidectomy. All three of which I believe I have just misspelled. My recovery was way better than I had imagined until three days later I developed an abcess which had to be drained. A horrible experience in itself. After this everything has been relatively great compared to life before. My biggest issues were pain and soreness at the incision site and itching. It has now been 4 weeks to the day of my original surgery and life is almost normal. Metamucil and stool softeners every day, lots of water, and faithful belief in God's healing power has brought me this far. I am trying to lay aside my fear of any of my problems returning but am grateful I had the surgery. Should have done it long ago. I hope you two have recovered or if not are encouraged by my story. Your dialog has comforted many I am sure. I will continue to monitor this site and hope you-all are doing well.[/QUOTE]

Terry, I'm so glad you're doing well. Thank you for telling your story.

IMO, fissures do not get better on their own OR stay better on their own. I'm very glad I had the surgery, even though it's taken me quite a long time to feel pretty good down below. Again, I think every person's healing time is different.

I rely on my faith in God, as well. My fissure problem became a NIGHTMARE for me, a year ago. I suffered for months, until finally having the right crs (he was crs #3) tell me that surgery would be the option to help me. So, I've been on quite a journey, with ups and downs along the way. I'm most glad that the horrendous, MISERABLE pain is gone. Gone. --- I still try to manage my diet, and I'm still eating lots of fiber and drinking water - but that's okay.

Healing is possible - but for me (and for you, and so many others), surgery was the only way I could heal.
[QUOTE=Tweetums;5077977]Terry, I'm so glad you're doing well. Thank you for telling your story.

IMO, fissures do not get better on their own OR stay better on their own. I'm very glad I had the surgery, even though it's taken me quite a long time to feel pretty good down below. Again, I think every person's healing time is different.

I rely on my faith in God, as well. My fissure problem became a NIGHTMARE for me, a year ago. I suffered for months, until fin***y having the right crs (he was crs #3) tell me that surgery would be the option to help me. So, I've been on quite a journey, with ups and downs along the way. I'm most glad that the horrendous, MISERABLE pain is gone. Gone. --- I still try to manage my diet, and I'm still eating lots of fiber and drinking water - but that's okay.

Healing is possible - but for me (and for you, and so many others), surgery was the only way I could heal.[/QUOTE]


Truly, my pleasure to do so. This forum seems to be alot more positive and constructive than others I have seen. Other boards had terrified me and almost made me chicken out. Re***y don't know what I would have done. I have read some re***y horrific threads about this. But the more I thought about it I wondered how many people take the time to go back and share thier positive experiences....not many I would guess. This board had many. How is DailyHope doing do you know? You two seemed to re***y share and comfort each other. Hope she is doing well. I shared this forum with my parents who are having a multitude of health problems and thought this would be helpful to them. Both are in thier late 70's and facing serious issues.
My step father is computer savvy and should be able to check it out. It is very helpful in my opinion to be able to read and share about our problems with people who are facing similar situations. Who would have thought someone could forge new friendships related to butt disorders? Unbelievable. I read where someone started discussing this with another paitient in the waiting room of thier Dr.'s office. A similar situation happened to me with a young mother of two of *** people. Wierd....a middle aged man...striking up a conversation with someone like this over our similar problems....just plain wierd...but oddly comforting at the same time. She and her husband were both patients of my G.P. and were members of his church. My Dr. had recruited me to go on a mission trip to Bolivia because one of his other patients had to bail because of her LIS and fissures and Hemmies.....turns out it was this woman....I had agreed and was planning to go but I had to bail because of the same reason. I suggested to my doctor should recruit out of another pool of people.....anyway, I thank you and hope *** is well. LIS surgery is proving a blessing straight from God for me so far and would suggest it for those in misery over this. Educate yourselves and read as much as possible. Lots of water, stool softeners, and fiber until you make an educated decision would be my advice, and re***y lean on your doctor to give you the real skinny as to what to expect. P.S. Not sure why when I type an A followed by an L and another L, it appears as three asterisks.....thats wierd too but whatever.
Thank you Terryisbetter for replying to the post! :wave: It reminded me to come back and discuss my progress. I am doing much better in comparison to the awful pain I had before the surgery. The pain from the fissure was devastating and you are so right “miserable existence” is the best way to describe my experience. You had three procedures so my heart goes out to you! My fissure was deep and my recovery after surgery was long and tedious! It took about 6 months before I was on my way to healing. I tried everything in an attempt to avoid surgery and in the end, surgery (LIS and fissurectomy) was my only option. I am able to function now and live my life quite normally. I have a few left over issues that still tug at me but if I had to do it all over again, I would still get the surgery because it helped me immensely. :)

I believe I left off around March 2012 so let me bring anyone reading this thread up to date. I went through some very odd and uncomfortable things that were unique to my body and not a common factor in this kind of surgery. After my rectal infection (occurred after the LIS and fissurectomy) and several months of waiting, my wound from the surgery stopped healing. It was an emotional time for me to come to the realization that my body was doing something abnormal and this wasn’t supposed to happen. :( After giving the wound ample time to heal and not having any progress, my surgeon scheduled a second surgery for May 2012 in an effort to remove the abscessed/ulcerated non-healing tissue so that the area would hopefully heal correctly this time. Please note that even the abscessed non-healing wound was better than living with the pre-surgery fissure pain! :eek:

After the surgery, I learned that the wound had become a surface fistula and a fistulectomy was performed to clear the tunnel that had formed. I could not find ANY other cases on the web of this happening to someone else. The second surgery was not as hard on me as the first and once I got pass the initial week, I started to gradually heal. It was a much faster recovery because the fistula only involved surface skin. There were times where I thought oh no, the area is not healing again and I was scared there might be another surgery but I made it through and I can function normally again. The only thing that lingers is minor discomfort during a bowel movement. My colo-rectal surgeon told me recently that the area is healed completely but there is a scar from the surgery. The scar can act up from time to time causing some very minor discomfort since it is on a sensitive region. The discomfort does not stop me from living my life and I believe the surgeon saved me from the miserable pain and devastation I experienced from the fissure. I am extremely grateful!

I want to take a moment to introduce another factor that could have affected my healing to emphasize that this experience is unique to me. In light of all the oddities of my healing and a list of other extremely unusual occurrences in the last year, I knew something was wrong with my health. I requested blood work be done through my allergist when I had systemic itching accompanied by hives for three months. I had done my own research and read that chronic hives can sometimes be caused by thyroid issues. I have a family history of hypothyroidism and it was worth getting the results. My allergist thanked me for requesting the blood work and told me he found something! I have an autoimmune thyroid condition called Hashimotos. Luckily, my allergist knew to test for thyroid antibodies when I mentioned I have a family history of hypothyroidism. I am grateful for his expertise and open-mindedness!

I have read many posts from people who had the same surgery as me and healed in a ridiculously short amount of time! Most people post when they have unusual issues happening but it is important to know that there are many more people who don’t post because they had a speedy recovery and moved on! I went through a lot and wanted to seek support during this low point in my life.

My colo-rectal surgeon was amazing the whole way through. He always had a cheerful attitude and was willing to stick by my side until I felt better. He is fantastic and this is why I emphasize getting a good colo-rectal surgeon. None of us expect anything to go wrong and for most nothing does go wrong BUT in the event that you are one of the exceptions like me, it helps to have a surgeon who will stick by you and cheer you up! Also, it is truly necessary to find support when you are going through this type of thing. Most people do not understand how this can rip your life from underneath you and so it really helps to have someone to talk to who understands and has been through a similar issue. Even the most optimistic person can be broken by this kind of pain. When I started talking to Tweetums on the forum, it brought me relief. I feel like she, in addition to my husband, colo-rectal surgeon and God, got me through one of the worst times of my life and I am forever grateful for people like Tweetums. :angel: Also, thanks again Terryisbetter for sharing your story and reminding me that I needed to finish mine nine months later so people can see that even with a rough recovery, I got my life back!

My heart goes out to all of you going through rectal issues!
[QUOTE=DailyHope;5081203]Thank you Terryisbetter for replying to the post! :wave: It reminded me to come back and discuss my progress. I am doing much better in comparison to the awful pain I had before the surgery. The pain from the fissure was devastating and you are so right “miserable existence” is the best way to describe my experience. You had three procedures so my heart goes out to you! My fissure was deep and my recovery after surgery was long and tedious! It took about 6 months before I was on my way to healing. I tried everything in an attempt to avoid surgery and in the end, surgery (LIS and fissurectomy) was my only option. I am able to function now and live my life quite normally. I have a few left over issues that still tug at me but if I had to do it all over again, I would still get the surgery because it helped me immensely. :)

I believe I left off around March 2012 so let me bring anyone reading this thread up to date. I went through some very odd and uncomfortable things that were unique to my body and not a common factor in this kind of surgery. After my rectal infection (occurred after the LIS and fissurectomy) and several months of waiting, my wound from the surgery stopped healing. It was an emotional time for me to come to the realization that my body was doing something abnormal and this wasn’t supposed to happen. :( After giving the wound ample time to heal and not having any progress, my surgeon scheduled a second surgery for May 2012 in an effort to remove the abscessed/ulcerated non-healing tissue so that the area would hopefully heal correctly this time. Please note that even the abscessed non-healing wound was better than living with the pre-surgery fissure pain! :eek:

After the surgery, I learned that the wound had become a surface fistula and a fistulectomy was performed to clear the tunnel that had formed. I could not find ANY other cases on the web of this happening to someone else. The second surgery was not as hard on me as the first and once I got pass the initial week, I started to gradually heal. It was a much faster recovery because the fistula only involved surface skin. There were times where I thought oh no, the area is not healing again and I was scared there might be another surgery but I made it through and I can function normally again. The only thing that lingers is minor discomfort during a bowel movement. My colo-rectal surgeon told me recently that the area is healed completely but there is a scar from the surgery. The scar can act up from time to time causing some very minor discomfort since it is on a sensitive region. The discomfort does not stop me from living my life and I believe the surgeon saved me from the miserable pain and devastation I experienced from the fissure. I am extremely grateful!

I want to take a moment to introduce another factor that could have affected my healing to emphasize that this experience is unique to me. In light of all the oddities of my healing and a list of other extremely unusual occurrences in the last year, I knew something was wrong with my health. I requested blood work be done through my allergist when I had systemic itching accompanied by hives for three months. I had done my own research and read that chronic hives can sometimes be caused by thyroid issues. I have a family history of hypothyroidism and it was worth getting the results. My allergist thanked me for requesting the blood work and told me he found something! I have an autoimmune thyroid condition called Hashimotos. Luckily, my allergist knew to test for thyroid antibodies when I mentioned I have a family history of hypothyroidism. I am grateful for his expertise and open-mindedness!

I have read many posts from people who had the same surgery as me and healed in a ridiculously short amount of time! Most people post when they have unusual issues happening but it is important to know that there are many more people who don’t post because they had a speedy recovery and moved on! I went through a lot and wanted to seek support during this low point in my life.

My colo-rectal surgeon was amazing the whole way through. He always had a cheerful attitude and was willing to stick by my side until I felt better. He is fantastic and this is why I emphasize getting a good colo-rectal surgeon. None of us expect anything to go wrong and for most nothing does go wrong BUT in the event that you are one of the exceptions like me, it helps to have a surgeon who will stick by you and cheer you up! Also, it is truly necessary to find support when you are going through this type of thing. Most people do not understand how this can rip your life from underneath you and so it really helps to have someone to talk to who understands and has been through a similar issue. Even the most optimistic person can be broken by this kind of pain. When I started talking to Tweetums on the forum, it brought me relief. I feel like she, in addition to my husband, colo-rectal surgeon and God, got me through one of the worst times of my life and I am forever grateful for people like Tweetums. :angel: Also, thanks again Terryisbetter for sharing your story and reminding me that I needed to finish mine nine months later so people can see that even with a rough recovery, I got my life back!

My heart goes out to all of you going through rectal issues![/QUOTE]

That was a very good and informative update, DailyHope. It's so easy to get discouraged and depressed with a fissure - and people need to not give up! I'm much, MUCH better off than I was, even with my little surface area that sometimes acts up. At least my fissure is gone, along with the horrible pain.

For me, and I know as for you, too, it's been a long journey - but well worth the determination needed to get better. AND, like you said, having a good and understanding CRS is very, very important.
[QUOTE=Terryisbetter;5088970]To Tweetums & DailyHope, I am pleased to hear you are both better. I hope any lingering issues will or have resolved themselves for you. I am now, I guess, about 7 weeks post surgery and haven't had any further problems to speak of other than some uncomfortable feeling of "un-healedness" earlier on. It is so much better than my life 2 months ago. I was miserable. I was afraid to use that word fearing God might decide to show me what Miserable can really mean, but someone told me it was OK and that it could be "My" miserable. I still hit the metamucil once a day, 2-3 softeners, and try to drink more water ( I never have been a big drinker of water or anything else other than Coke ) I hope and pray this is over for me for the next few years or lifetime or so. Thanks again to you two for your dialog, I am certain others were following as I did and were at least informed if not encouraged.[/QUOTE]

Hello, Terry -

So glad you're on the mend, as well. This fissure stuff is a tough road, for sure. It's taken me every bit of this year, since my surgery at the end of January, to feel somewhat better. Even at that, I sometimes feel a twinge of discomfort - NOT any throbbing fissure pain - just a lingering "pulling" that is very superficial. I might opt for a second procedure (which would be superficial and external), just to ease the skin up a bit, but I'm not even sure I want to do that. For the most part, I've felt much, MUCH better.

Thanks for staying in touch. This type of malady is not something that people seem to talk freely about - because I'm sure more people out there suffer from fissures, than talk about them.

I wish you well and God's best. Please keep us informed as you recover.
Tweetums. I had the surgery a couple years ago. My experience was far from pleasant and also unusual. I still question my decision but am admittedly in less pain. I had that dull ache for many months but it did go away so I hope your pain will fade away soon if it hasn't already.

Are you having any other symptoms aside from the pain? I still have pain but it is from having a small amount of incontinence which causes painfully irritated skin. It can be a little depressing. There aren't many people who come back to report that they fell within that percentage that has complications years later so I thought I'd chime in. Sorry that I have no advice for anyone who may be reading this. Just wanted to put it out there. Maybe someone else has some helpful information or recovery story. My doc recommended physical therapy but I haven't pursued that yet.
[QUOTE=holdingon;5137738]Tweetums. I had the surgery a couple years ago. My experience was far from pleasant and also unusual. I still question my decision but am admittedly in less pain. I had that dull ache for many months but it did go away so I hope your pain will fade away soon if it hasn't already.

Are you having any other symptoms aside from the pain? I still have pain but it is from having a small amount of incontinence which causes painfully irritated skin. It can be a little depressing. There aren't many people who come back to report that they fell within that percentage that has complications years later so I thought I'd chime in. Sorry that I have no advice for anyone who may be reading this. Just wanted to put it out there. Maybe someone else has some helpful information or recovery story. My doc recommended physical therapy but I haven't pursued that yet.[/QUOTE]

Thank you, holdingon, for sharing your experience with the healing process. I hope you're right about the pain. Today I got on my bicycle and rode around - and it didn't seem to hurt me, any - but it's taken me a year (after surgery) to get to the point where I've felt I could ride my bike. --- I think part of my discomfort is due to how I've healed (with a very small tag) and also to the fact that I don't have much of a cushion on my bottom -- I've had two Crs's comment on my small, bony backside.

I haven't had any incontinence, whatsoever - just some lingering discomfort (sometimes soreness), and some days worse than others. --- You're absolutely right - that if things aren't quite clean down below (post bm), the skin becomes irritated. So, though I don't have incontinence, I do have to make sure I'm clean down there.

I'm wondering about your doc's suggestion of physical therapy . . . What kind of physical therapy, and how might that help? I'm certainly interested in it, if that can help me.

I hope you get this post and can reply. TY!! - and btw, I wish you painfree days and a happy bottom.
I had LIS and Fissurectomy 3 years ago but still have ongoing pain. Occasionally I have a re-tear as well which takes a few weeks to heal. My Colo-rectal Surgeon seems to think I'll have intermittent bouts of Sphincter pain and re-tears due to the very nature of the operation.
[QUOTE=Dizzynscared;5138140]I had LIS and Fissurectomy 3 years ago but still have ongoing pain. Occasionally I have a re-tear as well which takes a few weeks to heal. My Colo-rectal Surgeon seems to think I'll have intermittent bouts of Sphincter pain and re-tears due to the very nature of the operation.[/QUOTE]


Hi, Dizzy -

My CRS (who performed my surgery) has said that getting another fissure, post-surgery, is rare. Neither he, nor another CRS I've seen, has found a fissure in me, since my surgery.

That said, the surgery does seem to bring its own side-effects, in that I sometimes go through pain and soreness, too - which I think is around the scar area of the surgical site. I must say that I haven't had any fissure-type of pain - and for that, the surgery was well worth it . . . but still, the recovery has been difficult and long.

My guess is that you're going through the same thing . . . maybe some pain from having the surgery, due to the tissues having been cut and all. Did you also have a fissurectomy? I did, at the same time as my LIS, and it seems to have prolonged my recovery.

TY for weighing in on this. It's helpful to know how people's various "recoveries" are going.
[QUOTE=Tweetums;5111676]ShoreBette - I'm Tweetums, just me, alone - I do not know the other posters here, personally, other than exchanging experiences here on this forum.

Thank you for your good wishes -- I still struggle with soreness in my bottom area - it's not fissure pain, but a dull-type of soreness. Two Crs's have said I'm healed and that they don't see anything awry.

Sometimes I feel like I'll never get over this. Yes - almost a year later, I'm still dealing with recovery. Maybe for me it will eventually toughen up in there and not be touchy, anymore.

All the best to you and Happy New Year.[/QUOTE]

Thanks Tweetums....i hope you and dailyhope have continued to stay in touch, as you both have such similar comunication styles..it is hard to find people to discuss such personal procedures.....thankfully they will at times...it helps us all

I am 3 wks post from lateral sphinct. and had six hemorroids banded....i am still very uncomfortable....but i suspect i have been dealing with these problems for about 10 yrs without realizing much of my pain involved the retum...my recovery is complicated with right buttock muscle pulling and tightness that goes to my ankle....

I am thinking right about now, that my situation is very unique....because of the entire hip to ankle muscle issues....when i went to the CR surgeon, i thought i was going to address hemorroids...he said fissure possibly...prescribed the compounding cream...and things worse..

I read about fissures and the spasms that accompany them, and thought if your rectum stays in spasms, it might involve the hip muscles, pelvic floor...not treated, or mis treated, i should say and it turns into a secondary problem....i started complaining about my tailbone area going into the anus 10 yrs ago, having one test after another...getting me nowhere...so i just went on tramadol and lived my life...

So for anyone who wonders what the timeline is for rectal problems to clear up without proper intervention, i am proof, that they can just get worse, and by the time you have it dealt with, other issues have entered the picture and you have no idea that you whether you are dealing with the correct ailment....

The side of the actual incision is not as sore as the right side of original pain...so it is just a guess as to whether it will truly help me at this point...as i read your posts, i had similars and differences....the bladder and pelvic floor seems to be really affected by all of this...sitting is absolutely not tolerated...neither is laying...i am of average weight, but feel as if there is not enough padding around my pelvic floorwhen it comes to sitting...

At post op appt yesterday the surgeon said it was too soon to digitally examine...for fear of soreness, but just the drive to office has created a lot of pain for me...i feel almost at week 1.....i was surprised at the level of pain this surgery has caused...was it the hemmy banding?? or thelateral sphinc. ?.. i have read some people go right back to work a week later...if i were working now and my dr only gave me a week, i would have been fired, because there is no way i could have gone back ...after one week...as it stands, i will likely miss a vaca next week...

I have generally a hard time being able to relate to other people dealing with this on the internet reading i have done, because of how it affected my buttock muscle and related problems to that.....for me, my discomfort area far exceeds the anal area ... it seemed like it got worse yearly, but options were so limited due to todays medical approaches...to treating more than one body part at a time....

I would like to comment on the pelvic pt or kegels.....it basically made my issue worse...it tightens the sphinctor for certain.....which in my case was a bad thing but may be helpful to correct incontinence...but anyone approaching this pt, be very careful the therapist has been teaching this for awhile..it is pretty complicated sometimes...if not donecorrectly...it will be hard to undo it....
[QUOTE=ShoreBette;5139211]Thanks Tweetums....i hope you and dailyhope have continued to stay in touch, as you both have such similar comunication styles..it is hard to find people to discuss such personal procedures.....thankfully they will at times...it helps us all

I am 3 wks post from lateral sphinct. and had six hemorroids banded....i am still very uncomfortable....but i suspect i have been dealing with these problems for about 10 yrs without realizing much of my pain involved the retum...my recovery is complicated with right buttock muscle pulling and tightness that goes to my ankle....

I am thinking right about now, that my situation is very unique....because of the entire hip to ankle muscle issues....when i went to the CR surgeon, i thought i was going to address hemorroids...he said fissure possibly...prescribed the compounding cream...and things worse..

I read about fissures and the spasms that accompany them, and thought if your rectum stays in spasms, it might involve the hip muscles, pelvic floor...not treated, or mis treated, i should say and it turns into a secondary problem....i started complaining about my tailbone area going into the anus 10 yrs ago, having one test after another...getting me nowhere...so i just went on tramadol and lived my life...

So for anyone who wonders what the timeline is for rectal problems to clear up without proper intervention, i am proof, that they can just get worse, and by the time you have it dealt with, other issues have entered the picture and you have no idea that you whether you are dealing with the correct ailment....

The side of the actual incision is not as sore as the right side of original pain...so it is just a guess as to whether it will truly help me at this point...as i read your posts, i had similars and differences....the bladder and pelvic floor seems to be really affected by all of this...sitting is absolutely not tolerated...neither is laying...i am of average weight, but feel as if there is not enough padding around my pelvic floorwhen it comes to sitting...

At post op appt yesterday the surgeon said it was too soon to digitally examine...for fear of soreness, but just the drive to office has created a lot of pain for me...i feel almost at week 1.....i was surprised at the level of pain this surgery has caused...was it the hemmy banding?? or thelateral sphinc. ?.. i have read some people go right back to work a week later...if i were working now and my dr only gave me a week, i would have been fired, because there is no way i could have gone back ...after one week...as it stands, i will likely miss a vaca next week...

I have generally a hard time being able to relate to other people dealing with this on the internet reading i have done, because of how it affected my buttock muscle and related problems to that.....for me, my discomfort area far exceeds the anal area ... it seemed like it got worse yearly, but options were so limited due to todays medical approaches...to treating more than one body part at a time....

I would like to comment on the pelvic pt or kegels.....it basically made my issue worse...it tightens the sphinctor for certain.....which in my case was a bad thing but may be helpful to correct incontinence...but anyone approaching this pt, be very careful the therapist has been teaching this for awhile..it is pretty complicated sometimes...if not donecorrectly...it will be hard to undo it....[/QUOTE]


Hello, ShoreBette -

I totally understand what you're going through - especially with regard to the anal pain's effect on the surrounding buttock muscles, etc. --- When my fissure was at its worst, I had pain in my bladder, female parts, surrounding buttock muscle, lower back, etc. It was awful - I was in absolute misery.

There must be alot of tiny nerves that connect in that general area -- so, if we're having acute pain in one, central area, it might spread to the surrounding areas. In your case, with the pain going down to your ankle, I'm thinking that your particular pain hit the nerves in your leg, going all the way down.

FTR, it took me a LONG time after surgery, for things to calm down, to the point where I wasn't in constant soreness. There were nights when I had such horrible post-op soreness - a raw pain down there - that I couldn't sleep. I remember lying down in the spare bedroom and being in absolute agony. That was within the first month (or two) after surgery. --- Since then, it's been a matter of thoroughly healing - and for me, that's taken a very long time, seems like.

I'm convinced that though I've looked healed (from the drs.' point of view), I've also needed more to heal within the deeper tissues. For the most part, I've felt much better, the past 6-7 months . . . but sometimes, I still have soreness down there - and I still have spasm episodes, too. So, for some of us, the healing takes a long while.

One thing I've tried to do (especially at night when I'm lying down and feeling the spasms) is to relax myself, as much as possible - relax down below, as much as possible.

I'm sure that, because you had the hemorrhoids banded, along with the surgery, that's going to make things more painful for you - and perhaps, you might need more recovery time. I had a fissurectomy along with the LIS, and I'm convinced that it made my healing time take alot longer.

I think that the people who only have the LIS seem to recover a bit quicker - not always, but alot of them do. --- So, give yourself ALOT more time, before you try to figure out whether or not the surgery has helped.

Think of it this way . . . you couldn't go on the way you were going - and the surgery will surely improve your situation, once you've given yourself more healing time.

I'm much better now, than I was before I had the surgery. Really, I was so, sooo miserable with the fissure, that all I could do was lie down and cry -- I spent 3-4 months like that, just lying down all day and crying, barely able to function.

Let us know how you progress -- and remember, you need time, time, time. The healing process can be lengthier for some of us.

I'll keep you in my prayers.
I had LIS and a skin tag removed 6 days ago. This has been rough for me. I am still having pain with bm and throbbing on the right side only. I examined myself last night and noticed a small bump that is a little tender in the area that I'm having pain. It looks like a red pimple. This of course freaked me out so I called the on call dr. He said To keep taking baths and that it's probably just inflammation. Anyone experience this at all?? My CRS said that I'd only have discomfort for a few days and today is day 6. Feeling very discouraged about this..
Hi, Depressedmama -

I'm writing to offer my support.

First of all, you're very early in your recovery. It's possible that you'll need quite a bit more time, before everything will feel somewhat normal, again. Everyone's recovery time is different -- so, please give yourself more time. The area will be very tender for awhile - there's no getting around that part - so, just make sure to keep the area clean, and watch for any disturbances.

As to the red pimple, just keep an eye on it. If it gets bigger, you'll want the doctor to look at it, asap, just in case. Otherwise, maybe it's just an inflamed or irritated area from the surgery and will ease up on its own.

I had an LIS and a fissurectomy, and I had a huge swollen area, that took weeks to subside. Like I said, complete healing can take awhile. I'm over a year past my surgery, and I've only felt fairly well for the past couple of months, with regard to pain and irritation down there. I do believe that my having the fissurectomy, in addition to the LIS, is what made my recovery time take so long - plus, I'm a slow healer, anyhow.

Please hang in there. Once you get past your recovery, I'm sure you'll be so glad you had the surgery done. I know I am.
Tweetums-
I replied back but not sure where it went... Anyways, thank you for your support. I just am disappointed because I thought it would be a easy recovery with minimal pain like my dr had told me... And it's been the opposite. I have my 2 week post op with her next week. Sure hoping I start feeling better sooner than later. I can't imagine how you have felt dealing with recovery for a year! I hope that's not my case... I wanna have another baby within the next year. This thing just leaves a person feeing very emotionally drained. Blah.
[QUOTE=Depressedmama;5162765]Tweetums-
I replied back but not sure where it went... Anyways, thank you for your support. I just am disappointed because I thought it would be a easy recovery with minimal pain like my dr had told me... And it's been the opposite. I have my 2 week post op with her next week. Sure hoping I start feeling better sooner than later. I can't imagine how you have felt dealing with recovery for a year! I hope that's not my case... I wanna have another baby within the next year. This thing just leaves a person feeing very emotionally drained. Blah.[/QUOTE]

Hi, DM - I just got your message here.

You're right - it IS disappointing to have such a "minor" and "minimal" type of surgery turn out to be very hard to get past. I've gone through the exact same thing - and not only that, my bottom area (though MUCH better) is still not like it once was. My surgical area sometimes pains me and gets a bit tender - and it's a reminder that I have to sometimes sit on a pillow, especially if a chair is hard or if I'm traveling a long distance.

Still, I'm glad I had the surgery. I couldn't have gone on with the fissure, which made my life total and complete agony, while I had it.

I know that, given enough healing time, you'll eventually get past this. It does help to know that other have gone through this, struggled, and eventually healed to a reasonable degree. I've been very slow to heal - and the incision area is still a bit tender - but like I said, it's much better. I just sometimes have to deal with the tenderness there - like we would with most any surgery. It's just not a pleasant area to have pain in!

I'm glad you're keeping in touch here. Please let us (me) know how your next appointment goes. I will pray for your healing. :)
[QUOTE=stakia20;5138759]Hi there. I wanted to share my recent experience with spincterotomy. I had 2 very bad fissures and I've had them for about 8 months. I had the procedure last Monday, Feb 18th. I was off work then for just 2 days after surgery, going back to work Thursday. It was painful, so I did take vicodin which helped me. I took stool softeners and fiber which took away any constipation from the meds. My first bowel movements weren't really that painful per say, but stung afterwards which was cured with a sitz bath and tucks pads. I would say within 5 days I was having BM's with minimal pain. I do use tucks pads instead of toilet paper. I would consider my downtime a little less than a week. I had my follow up today and the doctor was surprised at my quick healing. I guess I am someone who faired easier, even with 2 fissures. I would have to say I would recommend this procedure to others because for me it worked. I'm feeling so much better and the fissures were definitely more painful, as a whole, than this surgery was (for me). If anyone has any questions I'll be happy to answer.[/QUOTE]
Are you still happy with the surgery? Have you
Had any problems?
Thank you for any information you can give me.
So I have never posted on anything like this before but I feel so strongly about this specific issue.

I suffered from an anal fissure due to child birth. I suffered for 4 months before I got the Lateral Internal Sphincterotomy. Let me just say, if you are considering it, it's a no brainer. Get It!! The pain of a BM with a fissure is 1million times worse than the first few days after surgery. I will never get back those few months I suffered through and tried to heal naturally and with the Nitroglycerin medicine. I finally demanded to see a specialist after being sent home time and time again. Within 3 minutes of my apt with him he said surgery is a must. Within 48 hours I was in surgery and my real recovery began.

From what I can understand, from reading other posts, my fissure was around an 8 on a scale from 1 to 10. Which was pretty unbearable. I tried stool softeners, fiber products, sitz baths, dermoplast, every topical medication invented, and more. After a month or so of the fissure I would heal for about a weak only to have it reoccur again.

My experience from the surgery was pretty fair. I went into the surgery in more pain than when I came out. But I was in pain for a few days. I didn't have a BM that day or the next. The 2nd day after surgery I had my first BM and it was pretty difficult. The pain wasn't the same as like with the fissure, but I was constipated from the Norco and it took about 45 min and stung for about a half an hour. BUT, that was still better than a BM with a fissure.

I continued to have BM everyday and each time was easier and easier. I would say my first "good" BM came exactly one week post surgery. There was a little bit of stinging, but only where the incision site was. A sitz bath took that right away. (By the way use Dermoplast. I got that trick from having a baby. It numbs you down there)

I started with taking Citrucel twice daily, 2 stool softeners, an unmeasurable amount of water, and no "bulky" foods. I am now only taking Citrucel once every other day and still take the stool softeners, just in case.

Please get the surgery. Its over in 30 minutes, and you will finally start to heal after pain that only a few of us can understand.

Good Luck,

& God Bless
Tweetums, it is with interest that I have read your posts concerning your prolonged recovery after your LIS procedure. I am 5 months post LIS, hemorrhoidectomy, and tag excision. At 2 months post-op, I decided to get back to my active self. At that point I had been feeling pretty good for the previous 2 weeks. After doing a stretching exercise one morning, I started feeling this ache in my lower buttock and close to the spincterotomy site. It has been present since then. Surgeon says all is well. The skin near the surgical site is also tender. Some days are worse than others. I carry a cushion to sit on wherever I go. My question to you is this, did you find certain activity aggravated your pain symptoms? Activities like walking up stairs or just long walks in general? I have added swimming to my exercise routine but even certain leg movements with that are limited. I do hope you are still participating on this forum as your symptoms certainly seem to mirror mine. It gives me hope that you did improve with time but this is frustrating. Thanks so much for your posts!
[QUOTE=everhope;5272545]Tweetums, it is with interest that I have read your posts concerning your prolonged recovery after your LIS procedure. I am 5 months post LIS, hemorrhoidectomy, and tag excision. At 2 months post-op, I decided to get back to my active self. At that point I had been feeling pretty good for the previous 2 weeks. After doing a stretching exercise one morning, I started feeling this ache in my lower buttock and close to the spincterotomy site. It has been present since then. Surgeon says all is well. The skin near the surgical site is also tender. Some days are worse than others. I carry a cushion to sit on wherever I go. My question to you is this, did you find certain activity aggravated your pain symptoms? Activities like walking up stairs or just long walks in general? I have added swimming to my exercise routine but even certain leg movements with that are limited. I do hope you are still participating on this forum as your symptoms certainly seem to mirror mine. It gives me hope that you did improve with time but this is frustrating. Thanks so much for your posts![/QUOTE]

Hi, everhope -

Yes, I'm still around - and whenever someone posts on this forum, I usually get a notification email about that.

It sounds like you had a lot done, down below. I had both an LIS and a fissurectomy - and yes, my recovery was a long one - very long. I am only now feeling somewhat normal, again - but I do sometimes have short relapses. I can remember feeling a day of intense pain down there - last fall - but I do believe that happened because I was wiping it too hard and inspecting it too much. My skin near the surgical site is tender and delicate, just like yours, and I have to be careful about not disturbing it. My Crs has told me that all is healed - and I even had a recent colonoscopy that was perfect, with nothing awry.

Anyway, I've had quite a long stretch of time now, in which my bottom has not bothered me, one bit. But like I said, if I inspect that area or wipe it too hard, it flares up. So, I'm always aware that the area is tender and that I have to be careful with it - and I do still manage my bms. What seems to work for me is to put a teeny bit of Vaseline on the outer anal area, just before a b.m. - and then afterward I just wipe it carefully - dab it clean, actually - and then I leave it alone. (I seem to do better if I leave it alone.) I also continue to intake a lot of fiber - and part of that comes from Konsyl and "Double Fiber" bread.

I use pillows and cushions, most everywhere I sit. I'm sitting on a pillow right now - and I also use one in the car.

Don't feel disheartened about your recovery - because if you're like I am, it might takes months for you to feel like you have more good days than bad days. It took me such a long time.

Please keep me in your prayers, - and I will keep you in mine, too.
[QUOTE=everhope;5272727]Dear Tweetums and other LIS warriors, I will indeed keep you in my prayers. Just getting a response is heartening. I have found as you have that one must always be aware that the area is sensitive. I have always done the fiber thing and generally do not suffer from constipation. I drink an 8 oz. glass of water upon rising each morning and before and after each meal which also helps. I think some individuals are just more prone to perineal/anal/rectal injury than others and it did not help that I had a job for many years that involved sitting. I am now retired and can control where, how, and when I sit. The hardest thing for me is that certain physical activity is off limits for now. Particularly anything that involves spreading my legs (not too delicately stated, I know). I believe a stretching exercise I did a couple months ago disrupted the healing process in this area and started this misery. But, I can deal with limiting the types of activity I do. Your response gives me hope that it will get better with time. Thank you again. Your response truly means A LOT.[/QUOTE]


If I can help, in any way, I'm glad to. Having pain down there is a lonely journey, because people just don't talk about that sort of thing, unless it's online in this type of setting. --- Anyway, I know how DIFFICULT this journey is. I went through absolutely hellish misery for about two years - from the start of the fissure, through surgery, until about now.

Yes, stretching the area might aggravate it. That's what happened to me last fall. I was looking at my own area (via a magnified mirror) - and in examining it, I must have pulled it too hard, and it really flared up. But, if I leave the area alone - and mind my fiber - I seem to be fine.

Once a person has this kind of injury, I think it makes us mindful for the area, forever. I am always aware that I need to be careful down below - and as long as I keep that in mind, I seem to be okay.

I'm thinking that you will get there, too, to where you'll be mostly okay down there, unless you aggravate the area from time to time. --- Keep me posted. I really wish you well.





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