Every couple months I get these horrible burps that taste like rotten eggs or sulfur and sometimes it is accompanied by vomiting (also tastes like rotten eggs) and diarrhea. I have had this for ten years and doctors don't know what to make of it. Anyone heard of this? I'll try anything and take any suggestions.
I have these sulfur burps, invariably after I have eaten food that turns out to be spoiled, even slightly. They are invariably followed by several hours of diarrhea, and then everything is fine until the next time, which can be 6 months.
Has anyone discovered the actual cause, and how perhaps to avoid the diarrhea by some action as soon as the first sulfur burp occurs?
Cobra Jet, could it be that your hiatal hernia causes part of the stomach to be sort of "cut off" from the rest from time to time, so that it doesn't empty properly, and the food in it will start to ferment? I'm just speculating here, but since you mentioned something similar yourself, plus you said it often occurred after a big meal, when the stomach would have to expand a lot, it definitely sounds possible to me.
All the best! :)
Thanks, Crowgirl, the hernia may have something to do with it. I have not had an episode for several months, now. I eat a serving of yogert (sp) about once per week. I think the bacteria in there helps my digestive system.
im pretty sure its the Gluten..i've had those since a little child i've had those for a very long time..it was the gluten all along it was the poison for me. Im pretty sure its the same for you. Almost positive..change your diet and, eat all natural no more junk..fruits veggies fresh meat fish..all sorts of good stuff..and, you will see a big change..and, those burps will never come back.. I promise.. :)
I've had the same problem for several years. I have no idea what causes it either. I talked to a doctor about it once and she looked at me like I was crazy. The only thing that has worked for me was to drink some lemon juice. It doesn't work if you don't drink it rihgt away when it starts. I woke up two days ago burping that horrible smell. I drank a couple of tablespoons of lemon juice. A couple of burps later it was gone. Give it a try...It can't be any worse than having those disgusting burps.
I just read that people doing the Atkins Diet also have sulphur (rotten eggs) breath. Apparently it comes from burning fat for energy instead of glucose. Could that be what's going on here in some way?
I also have the problem with burping rotten egg smell. For me it is always when I have a bad yeast problem which I have quite often. By takng care of the yeast problem the burps go away.Just a thought.
I've also heard that taking chlorophyll tablets helps. People with a colostomy bag are advised to do this.
i also have this. My GI doctor says it's allthe acid/food combo in the stomach and the GERD problem is why it comes up.
I have all of these symptoms. Mine seems to hit me every 6 months to a year. Usually a big meal or heavy food like spaghetti or burritos will trigger it. When it happens I have no appetite and eventually vomit within a day or two. This condition is debilitating for a whole day or 2. I burp the rotton eggs so horrbly, my wife won't even ride in the car when this happens. I am 27 yrs old and in pretty good health. This began several years back. I also have a haitel hernia. My doctors haven't got a clue. They are worthless. On my own, I would only eat liquid foods until this all passed because I noticed I would vomit food that I had eaten from 24 hours ago so solid food would not digest. I went to an herbalist and she said I have what they call H. Pylori. This is caused from parasites in the stomach. They burrow into the stomach lining and when stomach acid tries to attack them, they release something to fight back which causes the stomach acid to become unstable. The parasites come from things such as pork and improperly slaughtered meat. She put me on liquid myrrh for several months to kill the parasites. I wouldn't recommend just going out and doing this. Myrrh is very potent. Please see a natural doctor for recommendations.
Sadly, I eat a very pure diet of all raw fruits, vegetables, nuts, and seeds, and I still have this problem. In fact, it actually started when I started eating that way!
This is my first time posting on these message boards. Glad I found them. It is 3:11am and I am up feeling really sick with the Rotten Egg Burp thing. It started around late afternoon yesterday. I am pretty much eating what I have been for months without a problem. The only thing diet wise that is out of the ordinary is the amount of soada I have been drinking. That has increased significantly. I have also been under an unusual amount of stress. I do not know how much all of that accounts for the REB (Rotten Egg Burp) issue but the following has been happening since late last afternoon:
Feeling pain in the lower left stomach quadrant and back
Flatuence that seems to very momentarily ease this problem
Feeling slightly releieved following stool passage
Feeling nausiated and losing appetite
I have only had REBs one other time and that was around July. I had it really bad and about 6 hours after the REBs began, I started having diahreah just about every half hour for several hours. By the next day it was all over with and It left me feeling weak for a couple days and I had to take almost 3 days of work off with it. I do not remember how much soda I drank or how much stress I felt when that one came on. I did see the doctor after 4 hours after the onset of REBs and he told me "I had an imbalance of flora in my stomach" and told me to take phazime and mylanta.
Now I am having another REBs episode (this time without the diahreah but with more pain). Is this how it all began for you all the first few times of having this? Do any of you find it is worse when you are under stress sometimes and/or drink more soda than usual?
I think stress is the contributor to my rotten egg burp problems. In every case, I have experienced some sort of work or family stress right before the problem starts. I have never been able to tie it to any one type of food or drink. I have never had problems with sodas. Sometimes I get diareaha, but mostly I vomit everything out of my stomach which cures the problem. Somehow the food just stays in the stomach and spoils, causing the bloat and burping. I guess the stress stops the stomach from working.
I have experienced the rotten egg burps for about 5 years, i ususally have the burps which are discusting but then i throw up which is even worse, then i feel much better if all of my stomach contents have been thrown up, i need help sooo bad, its so yucky, the doctor does not know what is wrong, the foods that trigger the problem for me are eggs, hotdogs, and sausages, but once in a while i get it for no reason, like today i had a normal ceaser salad i have all the time and a chicken burger, nothing different then i normally have. I need to get rid of this, i have tried not eating the foods that trigger it and im usually okay except for once in a while, but this is soo grosse that i need to do something. Any suggestions?? I have not had any testing done as i just turned 19 and the doctor doesnt really take me too seriously. I just need help. Please!!
Like many of you, the only relief I have received from this horrible phenomanon is finding this board, and one or two similar boards on the net. Half of my concern has now been releived knowing i'm not the only one with this ailment.
My symptoms parallel so many other sufferers here that it blows me away.
For me, it has been occuring every 5 to 6 months. Starting out with a few days of heart-burn or GERD followed by the dreaded "REB", which lasts the typical 12 to 36 hours. All the while knowing that it will eventually end in that horrible last hour. Somewhere near or on the porcelin throne-vomiting from my toes until that last measure of bile is dispelled. Then relief followed by sleep soon occurs.
Every periodic bout "seems" to be more intense then the past.
Like many of you I attempt trouble shooting the cause or ediology.
In fact I work in the medical field, currently persuing a nurse practitioner degree. So i possibly have some added faculties at my disposal to help interpret what may be going on. But most is speculation.
The one thing I do know is that the egg smell is hydrogen sulfide, which is primarily a smell related digestively to protein consumption. And as far as I can recall, every time I have a bout with this problem protein had been recently consumed in my diet - with in 2 days. Like many of you I assumed it was the eggs, or the meat sauce, or the hot dogs. Then it hit me that the one thing they have in common is all being protein foods. I also believe that slow digestive motility plays a role as mentioned by many of you. But why the sudden slow down in digestive function? What could be the precursor to this.
A doctor on another board mentioned a virus might be the culprit, but this was just a hunch.
One way I believe we could all help close in on this culprit is to do our own epidemeological study. At least until some better organized professionals pick up the torch and run with it. What this basically means is we all need to compare what is common in all of our lives that could be setting the stage for this disorder.
For example, my house is supplied by well water, I live in Florida, i have a bird and 3 dogs. are we all possibly taking a similar medication? etc. etc If we begin collaberating this information we just might close in on a common denominator?
Much regard, triple-c
I have this exact problem. About once a month or so, I burp rotten eggs, have diarrhea, and vomit *all of which taste and smell like rotten eggs*. Sometimes its just the burping, sometimes all these symptoms. My father and brother and sisters all get this about as often as I do. I can't believe that no one has suggested this, but we have always believed it to be allergies. I've read many posts and not one I've read has mentioned this. We have all had this problem since 8 or 9years old.. and when we take allergy medication, it seems to go away after a few hours! Maybe I'm wrong, but when I take a specific medicine and it takes the problem away, I assume I've discovered the problem. I don't buy into the gastro problems or "bugs". I've had this for 12 or so years, my father has had it for 30+ years. I notice I get these symptoms when around the things I'm allergic to: mold, dust, etc. I've never seen a doctor about it, because I've always assumed it was allergies. Although, I am a little worried now because my 2 year old daughter seems to have started this. Just a guess, but from personal experience, I'd say its hereditary.
I too have this problem. My doctor put me on 50mg of Protonix a day, hasnt happened since. But when i drink stuff with "magnesium sulfate" in them, like some bottled waters and Propel fitness water, i feel like i get the start of it. Not necissarily the egg burp, but a weird fullness is the only way i can describe it. So i stopped drinking propel and havent had that problem either. I would suggest talking to your doctors about getting on Protonix, it seems to work.
This is amazing , to see others have had this problem!. :rolleyes:
Fortunately , I only had one occurrence of the awful stinking sulphur smelling burping , but worse still , it was on my honeymoon 34 years ago ! :o
We stayed in an quaint old hotel and were served up a pumpkin soup with rolls for starters , which I'd never eaten before ,
what else I don't remember , but my husband said he didn't like it .
that night , I felt sick , think I was sick , and the next day , as we drove , I began that sulphur smelling burping ! .. it was awful ,.. :o
we had to drive along , windows down all the way , me with my head out the window each burp , .. :eek:
it went on for 2 - maybe 3 days , then eventually stopped !.. I was so relieved to get on my honeymoon with out it!..
Thank goodness we were travelling around rivers , fishing , etc, so I didn't have to see other people much !. I was quite exhausted !..
So I'm sorry for all of you who have had it longer , just wanted to say my heart goes out to you all, having experienced just a tiny little moment of it.
..I sincerely Hope you all get your answers and some relief ! :confused:
Kind Regards , nanna02 :angel:
:wave: :bouncing: :) I just wanted you all to know that I am very happy to let you all know that I appreciate this forum. I did a search in google and found this and I am happy to tell you from reading this thread that I have found a relief from this very upsetting condition
. And I wish to thank that person for the info. That person (KellKey) said they went to a doctor and got a perscription for Allergeys. well my wife had some Zyrtec that she takes for her allergies, Well I took one and within less tan an hour all stomch cramps, vomiting, diareia,etc were gone and I am a happy camper now :bouncing: :D so i hope this will help anyone here with this very nasty condition and best too you all. also I want to add that I have had this condition for a very long time and never found relief from it till now ;) :cool:
I am very happy to have found this forum it gave me the best help ever
I'm a 27 year old female who is in good shape and have been having these symptom's since I was around 19 years old.
I've never linked this illness to any certain foods that we're recently eaten, since i've eaten pretty much anything i've wanted and it comes off and on reguardless of food consumed.
However, I've noticed that my stomach tends to go into what I call shutdown mode.. where it isn't digesting completely or emptying out.. so its as if half digested food sits there or the flap/gate that opens into the intestines stays open and lets food kind of float in and out until the bowels/stomach are both emptied.. then a bit of sleep and all is well again.
Hopefully someone gets some answers.. I know i've gotten nowhere with any doctor about this matter so i've given up on it.
Well wishes to everyone out there going through the same problem and good luck. :)
I suffer almost every other day with this problem and the only symptom I don't seem to have in common with a lot of you posters is the vomiting. I have not had any gastric surgeries and this malady has only increased in frequency within the last few years. I am just so fed up with it. Anyway, I was wondering if anyone has tried the new Dannon yogurt, Activia, which is supposed to have Bifidus Regularis and they claim eating Activia every day for two weeks balances the intestinal microflora and helps regulate your digestive system by helping to reduce long intestinal transit time.
I have not come across this in any stores as yet and their website has no info on where to buy it. Has anyone tried this yogurt yet? Or does anyone have any further info?
By the way, I have been going through it all day and just tried drinking vinegar per a post I read somewhere...so far so good,stomach is still a little gurgly but much less stinky burps and not so bloated and gassy! :)
Thank God I'm not alone!
I first remember having the "egg burps" as a child. Every once in a while my whole family would come down with it. We had well water and it seemed to happen after we had eaten sweets. (I have no idea if the water or the sweets are related to the burps) I remember the burps, but I do not recall having thrown up or having the runs. Time went on and eventually we all stopped having these problems. Now I'm 28 years old and it's back and [B]worse than ever![/B] It all started after I gave birth to our first child. I would be sick with the burps, the vomiting and soft/runny stools at least once a week. Slowly I would go more time between episodes till now 15 months later it only seems to happen every couple of months. Oddly we had just moved into a place with well water again right before the baby was born. Related? I doubt it or my husband would have the same problem, and we had a roomate for a few months who never suffered with these symptoms. For a time I was keeping a journal of what I ate and I didn't find anything that seemed to trigger it. I have noticed that stress seems to bring it on sometimes or make it worse. Lots of sleep seems to help. Taking MASS ammounts of extra strength Gas X helps to make it more bearable, and peppermint also seems to help. Tonight I'm having ginger tea and I'm trying the apple cider vinegar. I hope it works! I will let you all know if I have any luck with it.
Hi (me again)
Well, I seem to have had some success with the vinegar! It happened to also be Apple cider vinegar (the only other vinegar I had in the cupboard besides red wine vinegar and that just didn't seem the way to go). Now when I feel the slightest, faintest trace of a sulphuric burp, I know it's only a matter of time before it becomes a full blown, child gagging (HA! my kids ages 4 and 7, have not quite figured out where the horrible smell is coming from yet), room clearing event. So I take a couple of swigs of vinegar and it's over before it even begins! I'm so stoked!
I also located the Activia yogurt in my supermarket and just had one. I can't wait for all those probiotic cultures to get to work and "regulate my digestive system"! I just hope I don't end up with a diet of solely vinegar and yogurt and nothing else!
I hope these treatments last and I really hope this helps someone else because it is so discouraging and depressing to not know why this is happening and worst of all to not know how to even begin making it better.
So good luck to everyone with this disgusting and debilitating affliction!
[B]Part 1 of 2[/B]Egg burp sickness or sulpher burp sickness.
Please be warned that I am not a doctor, I just remember spending hours upon hours with doctors and internet searchs as I dealt with the same episodes you guys are describing with doctors stumped on what is causing this. I will start my story now, you make your own decisions based on my story. My first attack of this sickness was about 14 years ago, it started with a simple disgusting smelling tasting burp, within minutes I was so sick vomiting and diareah at the same time. Anything and I mean anything I tried to eat during this episode would just make me that much sicker. So I did not eat that first day. Next day was feeling a bit better so I tried to eat, got the egg burp sickness again, so decided not to eat for a couple of days. Finally, starving but feeling much better, could eat anything I wanted with little or no problem. That was the first episode of this disgusting sickness and I thought it was just some kind of bug and I was over it. Forgot all about it for about 7 to 8 months, then got it again, oh yeah, same sickness as you guys or gals that have had this know that there is no mistaking it. Went to the doctor and asked if there was some kind of new virus going around and described symptoms, doc never heard of such and said just some kind of stomache bug. Ok, I was un-lucky and got this bug twice, did not play the lottery this weekend. Ok, 6 months later, get the fowl smelling burp and as soon as I burped that burp I knew in my heart that it would be just a very very short time until I was deathly ill again. I was on the way to work when hit by this the third time, turned around immediatly to head for home, didn't make it, had to pull off the side of the road and oh yes, vomit that disgusting tasting smelling vomit that in my best words to describe it would be that this should be coming out the other end if you know what I mean. Then starts my journey which some have you have been down I know, doctors, cat scans, MRI's barrium exrays, ediscope, laproscopic, etc..etc..etc.. My boughts of illness like this went on for a few years at the rate of about 2 to 3 episodes a year and I hated it. Doctors put me on every acid reflux and inhibitors they could try on me as I did have from time to time acid reflux or heartburn, nothing out of the usual heartburn, but I did have heartburn and on occasion I did wake up with acid in my throat but that was not very often and I pretty much knew what foods to try and avoid to make it better. Anyways, to make a long story a little shorter, over the years episodes started getting more frequent, at the very last, I was up to having this sulpher burp sickness at least every two months, I really think at last I was having this sickness once a month. I am sure that you that have this know that you do not want this even once a year much less once a month. Now I am scared to death going to doctor to doctor, same test, same barrium swallows, mri's, cat scans, was sent to vanderbelt university to the best gastro that exist if you talked to my doctor, checked pancreas, blood test,
This was DR Howard Mertz that at this time worked at Vanderbelt university as one of the experts in his field, and the only doctor I had the utmost respect for as even though he could not figure out how to help me, I am sure he was so extremly thorough he could tell me what was not wrong with me..no IBS, no cancer etc.., just could not figure out my illness. [B]HE LISTENED AND BELIEVED ME AND DID NOT TREAT ME LIKE I WAS CRAZY[/B], I put the previous in bold as other doctors need to re-visit this practice, yeah, thats right, listen to the patient and believe there symptoms. I even started researching this on the internet and he would treat me based on others suggestions as in I told him other people had gardia and had similar symptoms, he did not believe that was it, but prescribed drugs to treat it just to rule it out, he listened. Back to the story, you think you got it bad, I had episodes of this about every month for two years, about 14 years all together with the best that the doctors could give me was the saying if it hasn't killed you yet, its probably not going to. Gee doc, that helps me alot. Anyway, got my doctor to send me back to vanderbelt again just to find out that DR Howard Mertz no longer there, the new doctor flipt through my records so quickly he had to hold the world record in speed reading, then angrily said to me that he can't help me if I don't take my medecine, what!!! He said it again, what do you mean. He said I see Dr Mertz has tried several different medicines on you and you stop taking them when you get sick again because they are not stopping your sickness. Ok, this is not going well, walked out of his office, went to the main lobby and demanded all my records, xrays and anything they had on me.
[B]See part 2 of my post[/B] Had to edit and append as I forgot to tell you guys I had my gallbladder removed hoping that was what was causing this about the third year I had this sickness, nogo, still sick for 11 more years, read on..
[B]Part 2 of 2[/B]
They sent me to the basement were they keep records, I signed a release, got all my xrays and records and headed back to my regular doctor and said enough. Told my doctor to send me to a different hospital or something as I have to get to the bottom of this, enough is enough. I was furious, not at my doctor but at the new doctor at vanderbelt, I will not say his name as thats not what I am posting for. My doctor sent me to Summit to Dr. Barnes, yet finally antother gastro Dr which I hold very high respect for. He took the time to listen to my complete story, looked at the xrays and notes and what I thought and noticed that Vanderbelt doctors had noticed what maybe malrotation. I told him that Vanderbelt doctors said I may be malrotated but was not able to correct this via surgery at my age as this is usually found and corrected at birth. Dr. Barnes then told me that yes it could be corrected and that he thought these symptoms could be blockage or acid and wanted me to start taking acid reflux meds again and that he would schedule me for surgery to correct malrotation. Now, I am feeling pretty good as atleast someone is going in and if this is not what is wrong with me maybe they will see something that is causing this sickness.. I explained to Dr. Barnes that I had taken all the expensive drugs for acid reflux and even though they control heartburn they do not stop these episodes, so I asked him that since they are going to correct malrotation, could they do the [B]Fundoplication[/B] or what I called at the time acid reflux surgery. He thought for a minute and I admit looked very concerned about having both performed at the same time, he thought for a while longer and asked me to give him time to talk this over with the surgeon and I agreed. He went ahead and set me up for the LES test which he said would find out if I am a candidate for this surgery. I had that test done, my LES was zero, which means it was open all the time, he said I was having acid reflux at the time of the test even though I did not know it, all other portions of the test were a go for me having the [B]Fundoplication[/B] I gave him the time to talk to what he considered to be the best surgeon in this field named Gerald Burns. The next time I visited, he had spoke with Dr Burns, and both agreed that he may be able to do both surgeries at the same time via laprascopic surgery and sent me up to Talk to Dr. Burns and informed me that he wanted Dr. Burns to do this operation as if he had to open me up for some reason that I should have a surgeon that was able to open me up if needed and he felt Dr. Gerald Burns is probably the best in his field. I went up to meet the man, very nice man and a pleasure to speak with, he agreed to do my surgery and wanted all xrays etc.. that I had. I explained to him the sickness, he seemed to think I made the correct choice on pushing for [B]Fundoplication[/B] but did advise me he may have to open me up for the malrotation. I agreed and we set a date for the surgery. Morning of the surgery, man I am scared to death, they get me preped and into a room, here comes Dr.Burns with a somewhat puzzeled look on his face. The tv show House was not out yet, but if I had to describe the look, it was like the actor house that in deep thought about something, he looked at his records or things he had been studying on me, pulled up a chair and said he had reviewed all my records and looked at the xray's and just came out and said, I disagree with what vanderbelt saw on the xray's as malrotation, I listened and he explained that he could see how the xray's may have been mis-read, but did not believe I was malrotated or if I were, it was so slight he did not believe that would be causing any issues. Well thats great great great news for me the morning of surgery cause just like you guys reading this know I have allready researched and probably know to much information about the malrotation surgery and was scared to death about it but hey, just like you guys, I was at the end of my rope on this egg burp or sulpher sickness and willing to try anything to end it. Question now was I only had a very small hernia, Dr. Burns thought maybe a half wrap would do over full wrap, but I told him to do the full wrap and he said ok, no argument, just ok.. Cool, now I am gettng one surgery not two, vanderbelt was wrong about the malrotation. So I told me even though he did not believe I had Malrotation he would make sure by following me allway down with the laproscopic while in doing the [B]Fundoplication[/B]. And please, if you are reading this, read up on what to expect after this surgery as far as learning to eat again, getting stuck, etc.. so that you do not panic after the surgery. Surgery went well, I came to with my beatiful wife by my side with the list of answered questions, in which I had gave her a list of questions to ask Dr.Burns when he talked to her in the waiting room after my surgery to assure she asked the correct questions. She told me surgery went great, no malrotation, no other blockage or obstruction found and I was not malrotated, intestines looked pink and healthy and [B]Fundoplication[/B] went excellent. I got up out of bed oh I think about 1 hour after surgery to sneak out for a cigarrette, oh yes, I smoke, and don't you let anyone tell you nicotene is not a powerful drug, thats right, in pain, 1 hour after surgery, on way out the door to have a smoke. Pain was pretty bad as expected but got by with just tylenol as I wanted to go home same evening. So made regular trips for coffee and a smoke, Dr.Burns seemed well pleased as how well I was doing after surgery and said that the surgery went great. He allso left it up to me if I felt like going home, and I said yes. Was out of work for a couple three weeks and was well able to return to work when returning, oh no, got the egg burb sickness again, same old sickness, had the dry heaves and extreme diareah, but hey, this time only lasted about six hours and started feeling better, it usually was lasting a couple of days and I had to starve to get rid of it. Wrapping up the story, since the surgery and the one short episode of that sickness after the surgery, it is now coming up on 1 full year....yehawwwww, 1 full year without that disgusting sickness, not to mention that I can eat pizza and peppers at midnight if I want to and go to sleep without heartburn. 1 full year and have not had that sickness, I hope I never every get it again, but I am not getting it every month like I was getting it and I hope 1 year turns to 2. 3, 4 or even the rest of my life.. So make your own decision, I was advised against this as I only had a real small hernia, but in the back of my mind I think the small hernia and the heartburn and acid reflux all play a part in this nasty sulpher sickness. And remember, I am not a doctor, it seems that acid reflux surgery ended this illness for me, but maybe not you. I will try to post again on my year and a half anniversary of not getting sick and again at my 2 year. God Bless Dr. Maurice C. Barnes, MD and Dr.Geral R. Burns my Surgeon for listening and your god blessed skills.
Hope this helps, print this off, talk it over with your doctor, maybe we can help more people with this horrible horrible illness. If you do decide to do this, post to help others, this would confirm if it helps you too as I have never heard anyone else that has done this for this reason. And almost forgot, not afraid to eat eggs now, yep, you know what I am talking about, even though eggs probably had nothing to do with it at all, I think mentally you are afraid to eat eggs..hee.hee God bless and I am praying for you guys that this helps you too. As for my theory, I think we are all suffering from a very rare form of Gerd. Combination of Gerd and nerves and dissfunctional LES brings on symptoms doctors unable to recognize.
I have had this same problem now three times in the past year. First I thought it was the place I was getting my burger poyboys from (yes after getting sick once I went back the food is just that good) this last time though my ex made hamburger helper and I have been sick for a week. Last night after not even being able to eat chicken ( in my house you don't eat chicken you starve) I finnaly forced myself to get sick. I allready had diarea for the whole week but in the morning I woke up feeling much better. After reading some stuff on the net the thought that my food isn't digesting right makes me sicker then the smell. I even thought they smelled a little like rotten meat. I sure hope it's not gallstones or Crohns I have enough health problems as it is. but I do feal better that I am not alone here my ex thought I was crazy at first now he thinks I'm dying. For now I'm going to avoid ground meat for a while at least untill I can get into the VA and have them run some tests. I have learned from the past that ignoring things like this is not a good idea and being a mother of four I cain't afford to be blindsided by something realy bad later. Wish me luck and I'll post anything new I find out.
My final thoughts, if you have had all the test your doctors can think of to rule out the bad stuff which I strongly suggest you do, and the doctors cannot even come up with a theory, present the following.
1)We that have this are slow emptying(ever had barium xray and xray techs tell you that your slow?)
Combination of being slow, nerves, acid reflux, hernia small or large may or may not play a part in this as years of internet research I have seen people have all these symptoms without hernia, and for some reason bile in your stomache or over production of bile. I bet if tested, your LES is not functioning correct or not functioning at all. Combination of all these factors with LES not funtioning correct or not functioning at all as in my case causes a rare form of gerd that consist of more bile than acid thus why prohibitors and acid blockers do not stop the sickness. You can find small hints of bile gerd on the internet but I guess so little people get this that symptoms simply state extreme nausia vomiting and diarrhea. I see more information now than when I made my own theory up to support this. When I suggested acid reflux surgery to some doctors, they said no this would not help. Bottom line, when I finally had enough had to do something on my own so stressed that I wanted this surgery. It was a good choose by me as I have said I have not had this for a year now and was getting it every month. If I am correct with my theory of bile gerd, acid blockers and proton inhibitors are useless as they do not stop bile gerd. Solution, acid reflux surgery.
I do not know if somehow you can find out if there is over sucretion of bile in your stomache, but I would certainly have the test to see if your LES is not functioning correct or not at all. Just my thoughts, I guess my theory is as good as theres since they cannot seem to come up with one. But, what I know for fact, I have gone a year now without that horrible burp followed sickness that could make food poisoning seem like a walk in the park.
2 Theorys of why this worked,
1)I think with LES not functioning correct or at all causes changes in pressures in the stomache. The low pressure in our stomache allows bile to back flow into the stomache eventually making us dealthly ill, the surgery corrected the pressures in the stomache and stoped the back flow of bile. This would explain why I had a very short version of this sickness soon after surgery, I still had alot of bile in my stomache that caused this illness and after it got out and normal pressure in the stomache prevented back flow, well, I have not had this sickness again for a year now.
Theory 2, we are simply slow to empty, the surgery created changes in stomache pressure just enough to help move us along and not get sick. I guess if there were some way to look into the stomache and see bile you could support the first theory if you saw alot of bile in the stomache, I don't know if there is such a test or if bile would show up on maybe ultasound or something. I am a computer tech for a major computer corporation and at the time I came up with the theorys was in charge of handling computer issues that no one else could solve. Out of desperation, had to turn my own trouble shooting skills on my self as was not getting any help or theory from any doctors, they tried there hardest, but they did not have a clue. I allso want to stress that I do not believe they know how disgusting this sickness or how bad this sickness is when you have it. I know what you guys are going through and know how bad this is. I know this is all theory on my part and that I took a big chance that things could have taken a turn for the worse by deciding to push for this surgery because all I had was my own theory. Since I am not getting sick anymore, and if you that suffer with this print all my post off and take it to your doctor, maybe they can prove this theory to be true. Hope this helps you guys/gals that have this, Good luck. Allso make a notation that there are variations of the fundo, half wrap etc.. in which my surgeon thought since I had small hernia half wrap would do. Why did I push for full wrap, I can't answer that, I prayed alot, it was just a real strong feeling to tell the surgeon full wrap, don't know why I pushed for that, maybe half wrap would have done the trick too, just had a hunch, feeling or something to push for full wrap.
One last testemonial note, sometimes I suspected stress and nerves having a play in all this allso. Just a couple of months ago I had to pass a test that my job relied on, guys, my stomache was in knots big time as I knew if I did not pass this I may be out of a job, nerves twisted my stomache big time and I thought to myself that this is going to be the big test. Well, passed the test with flying colors, but my stomache was in knots the hours before the test. I DID NOT GET THE EGG BURP SICKNESS. Just like all you guys I have tried to pin it on food allergies, nerves etc.. Sucked my share of pop cycles until everything was out of my stomache during the illness when I had it. I really believe my theorys are correct as I am not getting this anymore after 14 plus years. To the doctors, I use to tell my doctors that the acid blockers such as aciplex, nexium etc.. did a great job blocking acid but increased the frequency of my illness. This may be one of the reasons they were so against my theory of bile gerd. They may have thought since acid blockers increased frequency, the surgery would be a bad thing. I am here to say my quality of life since the surgery has when from 20% to 95% and I think this is because I took a chance and got rid of the real culprit, bile gerd.
My heart felt wish. first I hope that this post helps everyone that has this, second would be, well, I have two boys 10yrs and 9yrs. I spent so many weekends sick or with doctors since they were born I feel I lost valuable time with them that I will never get back. So my big wish is that if a multi-millionaire reads my post and is helped by this, I wish he would kick me over about a million bucks so I could quit work and try to make up to my kids the time I could not spend with them during the severe stages of this illness.
This is my last post until I reach 1.5 years without getting sick. And of course all special thanks to my personal lord and savior JESUS CHRIST.
sometimes desperation drives inovation!
The Apple cider vinegar and ginger tea did not stop the illness, but I was not ill for nearly as long and it wasn't nearly as bad. It really seemed to help. I'm buying a gallon of vinegar!