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I had TKR of my right knee the end of October. I thought I would be back to work after about 4 weeks but I'm still not. It is very difficult to sit for any length of time and I sit at a desk all day for my job. Anyone have any suggestions? My PT is going well. Flexion is 120 degrees and extension is at 0 so I'm moving along. It is still hard to sleep through the night and sometimes I have insomnia. When I do all my PT, I pay for it with swelling and stiffness. I still consistently use a bike and I'm walking a mile every day. For some reason, I just can't settle myself down to attempt to go back to work. Depression and anxiety have been a slight problem because I thought I would be further along than I am so that doesn't help matters any. My doctor will no longer prescribe any "good" meds so I'm stuck with Tylenol! That barely takes the edge off when I do my PT. :(
Iknow what you mean. I had surgery Nov 4th and still can't sit very long without pain. I suppose to go back to work the first of the year and am very worriedd about putting in a full day when I can't even go to a movie yet. Your doing better than me. My flex is at 8% and my bend at 98%. I was told that once I reach 100% bend it will be a lot easier. But I see that is not so by your info. I guess time will tell. I go for my 6 wk check up next week and I sure hope I still can get the good meds for PT.
My TKR was Nov. 17the (4 weeks). I'm still in awful pain but I'm going PT 3 times a week (many times I'm in tears where a nerve is hit but the therapist says this is normal and I just have to slowly stretch the soft tissue). I also do exercises at home 3 x's a day that the PT gave me. My bend is 130 but my straight leg isn't as good. I'm so sick of pain and just being at home. I'm not a sitter, hard to concentrate on a book and TV is so bad. I just wait for each day to be over because I know I'll feel just a little bit better as the time passes. It helps to hear that I'm not a baby and that others know how difficult this all is. My "other" wanted me to go on a cruise at 8 weeks post-op and that tells me he has no idea of the discomfort I'm feeling. This makes me feel so alone except to be able to read these posts from others in my boat.
14 days post op and all is going as expected, swelling itching a little pain with certain movements. Outpatient therapy starts monday and I have some apprehension as I have been through this before. Just remember they only hurt you for a minute at a time and most therapist are compassionate and have a sense of humoras long as you work with them. My original complaint of the bone on bone pain is gone, just like that. I talked to a lot of patients in the hospital at the PT area and all first knee patients were hurting and seemed to think things would magically go away. They do with a lot of work an understanding that the surgical pain goes away in short order. Try to get away from your pain meds as soon as possible, but if you are in pain make sure you use them and don't be afraid to ask for what you need your doc wont make you a junkie they know the limitations. This surgery is amazing and when taken care of properly will let you lead a life with very few restrictions, common sense will dictate that you don't want to tear up the surgeons work cause it is hard to fix.:wave::wave::wave:
[QUOTE=ladyscout;4146375]OMG - 14 days and you are feeling that chirper? This isn't your first so maybe that is the difference as you mentioned but the thought of a second knee is unthinkable right now. I have found that giving up most of the percocet and davorcet have helped my emotions calm down and accept the pain a bit better.[/QUOTE]


I'm 33 days post-op. I had a PT come to my house for 2 weeks after being released from the hospital. She finally told me that I would probably do well by myself since I have been active all my life. I taught step class, low and high impact aerobics (probably my downfall) and finally was certified to teach Pilates about ten years ago. With all that, I was not prepared with the pain and frustration of this surgery.

My workout is about 1 hour a day to very loud Disco music. I'm always flexing during the icing, about 5 times a day for 30-45 minutes. I also sleep with the ice machine on until the ice is gone. I'm afraid I'm going to be addicted to the sucking sound it makes. I limited myself to the pain meds in the beginning because I knew I would probably push myself with the PT. I take one pain pill a day about 30 minutes before my therapy. I hope they last until this mess is over.

I actually went out to our club on New Years Eve. My husband and I play golf,(one of the few activities recommended post surgery). I don't swim very well, so I guess I'll ride my cart into the sunset.

I appear to be the normal recovery. I don't use a cane or walker anymore, and I do drive to the store and back. Most of the time though, I have to go down after doing too much.

I also use a topical OTC gel called Arnica Montana. Even my doc was amazed when I went in for the staple removal. He wrote down the name. All the bruising was gone from the tourniquets they have to use in surgery. There were huge bruises on my thigh and calf, but they were gone in a week or so. It also helps with pain and swelling.

Let's keep everyone posted about our recovery.

Linda
[QUOTE=jmlm4245;4154217]I'm 33 days post-op. I had a PT come to my house for 2 weeks after being released from the hospital. She finally told me that I would probably do well by myself since I have been active all my life. I taught step class, low and high impact aerobics (probably my downfall) and finally was certified to teach Pilates about ten years ago. With all that, I was not prepared with the pain and frustration of this surgery.

My workout is about 1 hour a day to very loud Disco music. I'm always flexing during the icing, about 5 times a day for 30-45 minutes. I also sleep with the ice machine on until the ice is gone. I'm afraid I'm going to be addicted to the sucking sound it makes. I limited myself to the pain meds in the beginning because I knew I would probably push myself with the PT. I take one pain pill a day about 30 minutes before my therapy. I hope they last until this mess is over.

I actually went out to our club on New Years Eve. My husband and I play golf,(one of the few activities recommended post surgery). I don't swim very well, so I guess I'll ride my cart into the sunset.

I appear to be the normal recovery. I don't use a cane or walker anymore, and I do drive to the store and back. Most of the time though, I have to go down after doing too much.

I also use a topical OTC gel called Arnica Montana. Even my doc was amazed when I went in for the staple removal. He wrote down the name. All the bruising was gone from the tourniquets they have to use in surgery. There were huge bruises on my thigh and calf, but they were gone in a week or so. It also helps with pain and swelling.

Let's keep everyone posted about our recovery.

Linda[/QUOTE]

I'm 16 days out of my second knee. First was a year ago. I was worried that recovery wouldn't go as well as last time, but am doing very well. The walker is on the patio and the cane is somewhere in the house. The "too" many inches of snow over Christmas makes it necessary to take the walker when going out, falling is not an option. Last year I was working hard to recoup to get back to the classroom and do student trips. I was back to teaching chem in less than 6 weeks. This year I want to get back to doing volunteering, being independent with driving, etc.
The best advice is to do exercises and stretches at least twice a day. Yes it hurts, but gets better. Make an effort to walk without a limp. Remember, this new knee is more secure than the one we have been walking on before. There is pain, but different from what it was before.
Last time after the wound healed,I was able, to do warm water pool therapy and was able to continue on my own at the facility after the weeks of therapy were completed. Doing personal water walking and stretching therapy for 3-4 months after the new knee really helped. Good luck to all.
I'm sorry to hear that some of you have had difficulty with conflicting information from doctors and therapist. The hospital sent a notebook with and a recommended exercise schedule. It has been extremely helpful. Therapist have added to these. The hospital I went to also had a JOINT CAMP, where those of us who had surgery on the same day went twice a day and did therapy together along with our own coach. It really helped to encourage one another and be able to see others in the same position. This time I went to the same hospital because of the joint camp and its positive nature.
Good Luck to all.
Frannyia
I had my second knee on Dec 16. The other was Dec 15, '08. I was lucky and am lucky this time also and rehab went very well. I attribute this to beginning therapy at the hospital and continuing at least twice a day thereafter. Everyone is different and so is every knee. Stretching, icing, and working through the discomfort are important.

Last year, one of the best part of therapy was the warm water therapy pool. I did about 2 weeks of that before going back to the classroom last year (5.5 weeks after surgery). After that I was able to go workout in the pool at least twice a week, doing my own therapy for about 3 more months.

I am walking without walker or cane. When going outside in the snow, I will continue to take the walker for stability for a few more weeks. I also am doing stairs using the handrails.

Good luck to you. Don't be afraid to take your pain meds, just don't overdo them.

Frannyia
[QUOTE=Frannyia;4154485]I had my second knee on Dec 16. The other was Dec 15, '08. I was lucky and am lucky this time also and rehab went very well. I attribute this to beginning therapy at the hospital and continuing at least twice a day thereafter. Everyone is different and so is every knee. Stretching, icing, and working through the discomfort are important.

Last year, one of the best part of therapy was the warm water therapy pool. I did about 2 weeks of that before going back to the classroom last year (5.5 weeks after surgery). After that I was able to go workout in the pool at least twice a week, doing my own therapy for about 3 more months.

I am walking without walker or cane. When going outside in the snow, I will continue to take the walker for stability for a few more weeks. I also am doing stairs using the handrails.

Good luck to you. Don't be afraid to take your pain meds, just don't overdo them.

I really hate the pain meds. I really don't see how anyone could get addicted to them. Did you have a excessive amount of fluid on your knee? Sometimes it swells with fluid, mainly on the right side, and the only thing that helps is ice. How long does this last? Are you on any anti-inflammatory drugs? Aleve, celebrex, etc. After doing the blood thinning shots for 21 days, (my husband was the shot giver, and he was shaking with every shot. Thank God they're over!), I wonder if I should take an anti-inflammatory drug. I called my on call doctor today with no answer.

I walked about a mile yesterday with my sweet dog, and my hip and back are screaming at me today. Is it normal to have such hip pain? Please don't tell me I may need hip replacement!

Frannyia[/QUOTE]
I take advil as an anti inflamitory.

My therapist last year said hip and back pain are because we aren't walking correctly, such as heel toe, or favoring the new knee although we don't realize it. I'm sorry you took shots for 21 days. My doctor only had me take the shots for 7 days total. (I did the shots myself. Not fun.)

The six weeks off work last year was fine for me. As a teacher I wasn't at a desk very much. On lab days, sit down time is rare. The hardest part was riding in a bus for 20 hrs. overnight with students for a NASA competition. I wore the ted hose a lot during work and on the trip. This really helped with the swelling. Yes they are not the most fun, but they were well worth the effort. I have now found some support hose that are like pantyhose, which minimizes that 'roll down' problem with ted hose.
The back and hip pain that someone mentioned, my therapist has told me comes from not walking quite correctly yet. Maybe they can give you some suggestions.

For swelling, have you continued to use the ted hose part of the time? I found they really helped. They aren't fun, but certainly make the legs feel better. I had used them prior to surgery to give my knee more support when teaching and on my feet a lot.

I also used them when traveling to keep swelling down. (I have had trouble with swelling prior, its hereditary.)

I have found some support hose that are like panty hose. They minimize that 'roll down' effect and are much more comfortable. I Googled them.

As to what I use for swelling now, Advil is the choice.

My biggest problem yesterday and today is that the steri-strips that replaced the staples are all coming off too rapidly. I have replaced them with butterfly closures for now. The surgical site just looks like it needs more time to heal and more support.
[QUOTE=Frannyia;4155096]The back and hip pain that someone mentioned, my therapist has told me comes from not walking quite correctly yet. Maybe they can give you some suggestions.

For swelling, have you continued to use the ted hose part of the time? I found they really helped. They aren't fun, but certainly make the legs feel better. I had used them prior to surgery to give my knee more support when teaching and on my feet a lot.

I also used them when traveling to keep swelling down. (I have had trouble with swelling prior, its hereditary.)

I have found some support hose that are like panty hose. They minimize that 'roll down' effect and are much more comfortable. I Googled them.

As to what I use for swelling now, Advil is the choice.

My biggest problem yesterday and today is that the steri-strips that replaced the staples are all coming off too rapidly. I have replaced them with butterfly closures for now. The surgical site just looks like it needs more time to heal and more support.[/QUOTE]

My staples were out in 2 weeks and although red it had closed properly. I used the Arnica Montana and it looks pretty good today. What are the Ted hose? I was not told about them. Will the advil also help with the fluid?

Linda
I had shots to prevent blood clots for 10 days but after I got home from the nursing facility I just couldn't do it and stopped at 7 days. Figured I'd stay more active on my own - it worked - I'm alive.
I'm 7 weeks post-op. I go the PT, out-patient, 3 x's a week and to my gym the other days to ride the bike and get into the hot tub and exercise. I'm also having a heck of a time walking right. It's like learning all over again and my hip, back, neck are in so much pain. I'm still waking up, moving, stretching every hour of the night. I have been driving, carefully, and getting to the store (the cart is like a big walker!) and that lifts my spirits.
[QUOTE=Frannyia;4155513]Hope it's warmer where you are. Ice is our problem and it won't go away anytime soon, so I will allow my husband to take me places for awhile since its not quite 3 weeks.

My therapist today looked at the scar and said it in very good shape, only one spot looked like it needed a butterfly closure for a while longer.

The TED HOSE are those wonderful support stockings they give you at the hospital that are such a pain. As stated before, I got some better ones and wore them after returning to work last year. They really helped with the swelling.

If you can find somewhere with a warm water (about 89 degree) pool and do exercises and water walking for a few months, I believe it will help you. It allows you to do the exercises to build your muscles without as much active stress on your new knee.

Keep up the exercises a couple times a day at home but don't overdo it. There is a point of diminishing benefits. Icing and Advil are good.[/QUOTE]

It's cold here, but nothing like Iowa. Central Texas has a few cold days when a deep cold front comes in, but it's mainly in the 60's this time of the year. I drive short distances, but would never attempt more.

I'll try and find an indoor heated pool. I now get in a warm bath and do bending exercises, it's a 6 ft. whirlpool, so it's very comforting after my 1 hour workout. I'm starting out-patient PT on Wednesday, I'll ask them about the TED hose.

Thank you,
Linda
[QUOTE=ladyscout;4155402]I had shots to prevent blood clots for 10 days but after I got home from the nursing facility I just couldn't do it and stopped at 7 days. Figured I'd stay more active on my own - it worked - I'm alive.
I'm 7 weeks post-op. I go the PT, out-patient, 3 x's a week and to my gym the other days to ride the bike and get into the hot tub and exercise. I'm also having a heck of a time walking right. It's like learning all over again and my hip, back, neck are in so much pain. I'm still waking up, moving, stretching every hour of the night. I have been driving, carefully, and getting to the store (the cart is like a big walker!) and that lifts my spirits.[/QUOTE]

When I go to the store, I use one of the electric carts. You're right though, even going to the store is uplifting.

I walk alright, it's just painful. This surgery is no cakewalk, and most of us were really active before. We just have to get over the idea that we're in this mess.

Linda
I've gone through two TKR's and the sleeping issues didn't resolve until about 6-8 weeks out. When I couldn't sleep, I listened to music with my mp3 player. It was a God-send. I also went to Joint Camp at my hospital and did quite well as long as I followed the plan. Still have the notebooks.

The back and hip issues were similar for me as well and resolved as my gait improved. It is a process but I remember that each time I began to turn the corner by 6 weeks and was able to say I was glad I did it by 8. Actually, I was glad much sooner because the pain was different but it was hard to remember that during the process. I also discovered that I really enjoyed walking more than sitting! Sitting does get very tiring for the leg.

One last thing - the prescription meds are necessary but there comes a day when you realize that they are part of what's dragging you down emotionally. It was a bit of a withdrawal the first time but the second time I was able to switch to Ibuprofen and Tylenol arthritis sooner and was much happier.
Linda in Vermillion SD
This week I had appointments with my surgeon and one with my PCP -- who was the one who urged me to have the surgery. I was able to tell both of them that having the surgery was the best thing I could have done!

Sure, it was difficult at first, and even after the immediate surgery and the PT, it was difficult with the back pain and with my shoulders from lifting myself up from low positions. Also the extreme tiredness. But over the weeks, everything came together. I never took pain meds for more than 5 or 6 weeks, and even then only before PT --- as I hated the way medications made me feel .

I am now 3 months/1 week post op, and altho I gave up the walker after 1 week, I began using my rolling cane less and less. It was about 2 to 3 weeks ago that I realized that I wasn't using it at all! AND -- today, in the supermarket parking lot, there were no carts halfway down the lot, so I walked by myself up to the store. First time in a long time I did that, as I was using my rolling cane about a year before the surgery.

My knee still feels like a block of wood, but my ROM keeps improving with daily exercise.

Would I do the other knee? Yes! But I wouldn't wait so long. Also, I would keep a log to track my progress. Quite an experience!
[QUOTE=scribytoo;4157615]I've gone through two TKR's and the sleeping issues didn't resolve until about 6-8 weeks out. When I couldn't sleep, I listened to music with my mp3 player. It was a God-send. I also went to Joint Camp at my hospital and did quite well as long as I followed the plan. Still have the notebooks.

The back and hip issues were similar for me as well and resolved as my gait improved. It is a process but I remember that each time I began to turn the corner by 6 weeks and was able to say I was glad I did it by 8. Actually, I was glad much sooner because the pain was different but it was hard to remember that during the process. I also discovered that I really enjoyed walking more than sitting! Sitting does get very tiring for the leg.

One last thing - the prescription meds are necessary but there comes a day when you realize that they are part of what's dragging you down emotionally. It was a bit of a withdrawal the first time but the second time I was able to switch to Ibuprofen and Tylenol arthritis sooner and was much happier.
Linda in Vermillion SD[/QUOTE]

I went to my first out patient therapy yesterday and was told I'm off the chart in recovery. I guess those funky 70's songs and Pilates are kicking in. I actually worked with a friend today who has had a hard time recovering from TKR. She says on a scale of 1-10, I'm a 10 and she's a 2. I hate that. I don't know why I'm so ahead of her. My hope is that I can help her in her efforts.

I'm doing 30 minutes on level 2 on the bike and another hour with PT recommended exercises as well as my beloved Pilates. They are so adapted to knee injuries.

I'm a Texan so I'm watching Texas/Bama tonight. My husband was born in Bama, so I can't yell to loud for Texas. We lost our QB, so it's anybody's game.

Hook-em Horns

Linda
To those who are new to this, yes, it does get better. Reading your messages reminded me of the first few weeks after my tkr, and it was also miserable. It is very hard, and painful, and I shed tears too. I think the pain meds made me very emotional, plus I was unsure if I was recovering normally, or if others had the same issues. After I found this site, I was on it dailly, and it really does help to get you through the rough spots.
After four or five weeks you will feel better, and after that things just keep getting better every week. Someone the other day said, measure your progress by weeks, not days. That is so very true because you will have good days and bad for a long time. That doesn't mean that you are not progressing normally, it just means you are healing and everyone reacts differently to this process too. Some faster without problems, and some slower.
I am at three months yesterday, and it was finally one of the best days I have had. I am just now able to say I am glad I did this.
Keep your eye on the prize, which is to have a functioning knee without all the preop pain that you had before.
It will happen, just know we have all been there. Once you move ahead with this you will feel better and be glad you did it. At three months, I still need encouragement, and I read where others are at my same stage and still having issues I have. So this is a very valuable place to come when you are down and frustrated. Good Luck!
[QUOTE=coldnstuck;4162850]Bloomington minnesota R knee replacement - end of october surgery, similar problems, but my flexibility is a lot less - only 65 deg. cannot do most of the daily things - sleep, walk, up and down stairs. i lost over 30lbs. had to go to work this past monday, half time and when I come home I take a nap.
i can sit, but my leg gets crampy and stiff after a while, i stand up and walk a bit. cannot ride the bike - as the leg won't bend. Aquatics in a warm pool helps, but so far flexibility has not improved - only the way it feels to my mind.
coldnstuck[/QUOTE]

Hi there, I had my rt knee replacement on 25th October and saw the consultant yesterday and all going well, however it is still sore and need to rest quite a lot with the ice. However first day back to work today and absolutely worn out, only office work.

Regarding the exercise bike, I found that when first on the bike it is not possible to do a complete turn, BUT if you persevere by going backwards and forward as much as poss. eventually the leg does release gradually and will eventually do the complete round. I asked my physio why this is so and it was explained to me that the scar tissue settles, by moving this eventually some chemicals will break down and if the scar tissue is not manipulated you will end up with a stiff leg which will never return to normal as the scar tissue will settle . hope this makes some sense, it did when she explained it to me but prob in better words. however it does work and can now move my leg more or less to normal though still feels weird.

It surprised me how much it took out of me but although uncomfortable it is nowhere the pain that I suffered before, now waiting for the snow to go so I might actually walk, prob with 1 crutch due to confidence, to the local shop.

Hope things improve for you
[QUOTE=megsmum;4163894]Hi there, I had my rt knee replacement on 25th October and saw the consultant yesterday and all going well, however it is still sore and need to rest quite a lot with the ice. However first day back to work today and absolutely worn out, only office work.

Regarding the exercise bike, I found that when first on the bike it is not possible to do a complete turn, BUT if you persevere by going backwards and forward as much as poss. eventually the leg does release gradually and will eventually do the complete round. I asked my physio why this is so and it was explained to me that the scar tissue settles, by moving this eventually some chemicals will break down and if the scar tissue is not manipulated you will end up with a stiff leg which will never return to normal as the scar tissue will settle . hope this makes some sense, it did when she explained it to me but prob in better words. however it does work and can now move my leg more or less to normal though still feels weird.

It surprised me how much it took out of me but although uncomfortable it is nowhere the pain that I suffered before, now waiting for the snow to go so I might actually walk, prob with 1 crutch due to confidence, to the local shop.

Hope things improve for you[/QUOTE]

I'm beginning to feel like I'm some kind of robot and at the same time very fortunate. I started my PT the 3rd day after surgery. The day after my staples were out, day 12, I started the stationary bike. There was no effort in turning the pedal and I have eventually worked from 10 minutes on the first day to 30 (day 47). My daily routine consists of 30 minutes on the bike, 10 on the treadmill, and 1 hour of stretching and Pilates. I also walk my dog .9 miles at least 2x a week weather permitting. I think how you heal is based on your activity levels before. I was barely walking before the
surgery but was always very active before knee problems. Now I move like I never had a knee problem.

If it sounds like I'm bragging, I'm sorry. I am very happy with my progress and wish everyone could experience the joy I have when I'm able to do things I haven't done in years. Trust me, you all will experience the same and you will be so proud.

Thanks for letting me gloat a little. Keep exercising. My dr. said "no pain no gain".

Linda
It seems everyone is doing fairly well - a few issues here and there - but for the most part everyone from the start has a great range of flexibility. Everything else appears to solve itself in time.

I started with low flex and continue to be there starting - today - on the 13th week. This situation makes it quite different then.

my nightly baths have become my daily PT sessions now, since being in the hot water seems to give me the right evnironment to push my leg. for the most part, the limited flex is what I have to work with - about 75-78 - and it is becoming difficult to either lay or sit or stand, the side of the leg both up and down from the knee is getting cramps, and difficult to walk.

Maybe in time it will improve - and i keep at it every day. But for me - it did not go the way of the prescribed path - work it while recuperating - it seems my knee wants to heal and then work it.

Have not slept for a long time, way before the surgery - and now I get up at least 5-6 times during the night if not more. The other leg has atrophied quite a bit and as I decided to just start moving, standing is very difficult.

Having lost much of the rest of the body muscles is another problem that i am now working on, as every muscle has atrophied quite a bit.

And on top of everything - going to work. I am glad we have a day off today, this week will then be a 4 day week.

I don't know why my flexibility is not there, I have worked so hard right after surgery and after manipulation ( at 4 weeks) that is almost incredible my flexibility has stayed about the same. Probably doing nothing would have yielded the same results and spared me all the pain of pushing the leg into bending.

I know that everyone is different, and am not comparing with anyone else, just observing how in my case the road to recuperation has been quite different than most of what I've read here.

This week I hope to get a second professional opinion as to how the knee is doing , I am starting to think I need to check everything out, maybe there is something that holds me back. And if there is not, then I just keep moving forward, hoping it will one day bend enough to make walking possible and riding the bike.

before surgery, my knee was in bad shape, and it is possible that it takes longer for the damage to repair inside and only then to make the knee functional. These are all speculations on my part, as i had no advice from someone that actually knows and understands how the healing hierarchy happens. Having been pushed into PT right after surgery apparently did not yield the expected flexibility results.

It is great to hear about the good results, and some of the symptoms of healing from the replacement surgery, it helps me figure outt I am also on the right path, just a lot slower than most.

spirits high, discipline in workouts and hope things will improve - wishing you all a speedier recovery with less pain and steady positive results. coldnstuck
Its 5 weeks today. The PT said I was ready to go on my own Monday. No more directed PT. I will go in 2 or 3 times a week for warm water walking and exercise. Keeping up regular exercise at home is always very important.

The leg still aches some but Advil keeps it doing OK. Yesterday and today it was aching a little more. Probably predicting the ice storm we had last night.
I get up once or twice a night.

I agree with the person who commented on the continuous motion machine that was used right after surgery and during the hospital stay. That was a great help with flexibility.

The PT said massaging the scar with vitamin E really helps break down the scar tissue and reduce the scar. It did help the scar from last year's surgery, so am doing it again this time.

Good luck to all. We are all different. It takes a lot of perseverance.
It's 51 days today. I think I did too much. I'm getting ready to ice and elevate. I'm really addicted to exercise now. I have to scale it back a little though. Maybe 6-7 days a week is too much. I took a group ladies golf lesson today. Good thing it was a putting lesson. One of the ladies also had TKR a few years back and said she was still swelling after 6 months. She's a pretty good golfer, so maybe there's hope for my game.

You guys seem to be recovering well. I think what devastates me is the time it's taking to recover. I have recovered from other surgeries so much faster. Trouble is, I'm going to have to have the left one done pretty soon.

Linda
For straightening, the formal PT had a couple of things to do at least twice a day if not more often. The first, I use many times a day.
FIRST Exericse: When sitting with legs up, 1. flex toes upward, 2. tighten calf, 3. straighten and tighten knee, 4. tighten the quads and 5.then tighten the butt. Hold for count of 5, release and repeat.

SECOND Exercise: Wrap a 3 lb coffee can with a towel and tape or
Roll a big towel and tape it.
While sitting in a recliner with your feet up, place the can or rolled towel under your ankle. Relax your leg. Keep it there for 5 min. (or until it is too uncomfortable) As you get better at it, build up to 10 - 15 min. It's a good time to read a book, talk on the phone or do something that keeps your mind off your knee.

This helped with straightening. The first exercise I do even at night if my leg feels uncomfortable. It just gets the circulation going.

My straightening is at -3 degrees and flex is at 112 and can push to 120. Swelling can make a difference too.

Hope it helps. Good luck.
[QUOTE=ladyscout;4168732]Wow - thanks! Those are two concrete suggestions I can do. I really appreciate it. I have a coffee can that I've used for another exercise so I'm ready! Off to the gym for my regular floor exercises (given to me by a friend who had this done) and 30 min. on the bike, then in the hot tub. I'm in So. CA and it is just pooring out - still![/QUOTE]

We have been watching the rain in CA. Hope those mud slides don't cause you any problems. The hospital where I had surgery gave at me a booklet of exercises. A couple others. 1. Put the coffee can under the knee, tighten the calf muscle and raise the leg. As you get stronger, put weights on the ankles.(15 reps twice a day.) I do this in bed before getting up and before sleep. 2. If doing straight leg raises, my PT said do only about 5,once a day because it puts a lot of pressure on the hips.

We are suppose to have rain here too. The average temp this time of year is 25, but today it is 33 and rising. The ice that has been on the trees is coming down like hail. My knee is really aching today, at the pool this morning, the PT said everyone was complaining of more aches than usual. It's the weather. Good luck. Mary
[QUOTE=mtb1218;4169964]I'm now 3 months post Tkr. After a month my doctor would not give me any more pain meds. Ibuprofen and Tylenol just don't cut it. As of a week ago I still wasn't sleeping so my regular doctor finally gave me some sleeping meds. FINALLY a good night sleep which is now helping with the healing process. PT finished the end of December. Now I'm working out independently 4 times a week. Full body workout. One day Yoga, 3 days walking and weight lifting. I had to go to a chiro to get my hip back in alignment which has really helped. Now it is only my knee that hurts. I still don't have any feeling on the outside of my knee. Hope that comes back some day. I'm now just taking it one day at a time and happy my knee doesn't hurt quite as bad as before surgery. Good luck to everyone who is on this journey.[/QUOTE]

Three months here too.. as of the 15th. No more therapy for me either.. for what she was doing I can do at home... really really didn't like her. I had my ACL repaired years ago and that PT was brutal.. the therapist really really worked you.. watched everything you did.. this one.. when I got there she said ride the bike for 10 mins. then she would give me some papers with the same exercises that they gave me when I came home from the hospital.. I would do those on my own.. she never even came in the room to see what I was doing.. then she would come in and massage my scar for like five mins. then I would do ice and stim.. (which I also have a stim machine to use at home).. so why go.. I have a gym where I live.. so I have access to a bike.. why should I pay a $30.00 copay for her to do nothing.. it was worthless IMO... granted in the beginning yes.. but I'm doing the same thing I was when I came home from the hospital. Done venting.. but I want to start doing some weight stuff as the only issue I really have is strengthening the knee.. I can walk up stairs really well foot over foot but still need to hold the railing with one hand..

I really need to start making a better effort though at exercising on a daily or every other day basis... the only thing I notice is when I sit too long it's killer getting going.. especially like at work.. or when I get up in the morning.

Sorry about your meds... mine said if I need them he will be more than happy to give them to me because he knows nights are the worst.. so he gives me 50 darvocets at a time.. last time I got them was Dec. 24th and I still have many left... but they are nice to have for those horrible days.

Hope you do well.. we all have our little grrrr's about this surgery but I think six months from now we will all be happy.

So glad to hear how others are doing.. sometimes I think I'm just be paranoid.
[QUOTE=mtb1218;4169964]I'm now 3 months post Tkr. After a month my doctor would not give me any more pain meds. Ibuprofen and Tylenol just don't cut it. As of a week ago I still wasn't sleeping so my regular doctor finally gave me some sleeping meds. FINALLY a good night sleep which is now helping with the healing process. PT finished the end of December. Now I'm working out independently 4 times a week. Full body workout. One day Yoga, 3 days walking and weight lifting. I had to go to a chiro to get my hip back in alignment which has really helped. Now it is only my knee that hurts. I still don't have any feeling on the outside of my knee. Hope that comes back some day. I'm now just taking it one day at a time and happy my knee doesn't hurt quite as bad as before surgery. Good luck to everyone who is on this journey.[/QUOTE]

good job!! my pain before the surgery is gone, have numbness on outside, sweelling comes and goes, doc said to put ace bandage around knee when I am going to be on my knee for a longer time

doc says it could be up to a year or more for the feeling to come back
[QUOTE=dinojen;4175332]Actually that post read like I type on my blackberry at times... can't imagine anyone having a laptop with them in the hospital.. especially after this surgery.. and I have to admit.. hubby brought me my BB and I played on that the whole time I was in the hospital.. was good way to kill time.


Funny thing about those pain pumps... the lady next to me in my room was hitting her's like crazy.. guess she didn't realize you can hit it as many times as you want... doesn't mean your getting the juice each time...:D[/QUOTE]


Jen,

First let me apologize for misreading and calling you a man. You are right. The nurses told me you could not get more than 6 pumps in a hour no matter how many times you hit it. I did have my laptop but couldn't use it until the day before I went home because of all the tubes. Truth is, I didn't really care if I talked to anyone.

You have a tough job ahead of you. It sounds like to me the block was still in, if you had one, when you posted. My block ran out at 3AM on the 3rd day. I though I was going to die. I actually wished death. (just kidding) on the 4th day all the tubes came out and I was able to take oral pain medicine.

It's 2 months today since surgery. I'm not having near the pain I thought I would have. I played 7 holes of golf last week. Afterwards, I iced and elevated and can't wait for another sunny day to try for 9 holes. My goal is to be able to finish 18 by April. I can't enter any ladies events until I can play 18 holes. Our club gives free ladies lessons on Thursday's and I've been able to make the first lesson this year. I need every lesson I can get.

Please keep us posted with your progress. We all have our own recovery rate. It sounds like if your posting from the hospital, you're on your way to a speedy recovery.

Linda
I too have been having a lot of problems with my back - am now 10 1/2 months out. I have managed to cope by having a weekly massage for my back. Found that my legs are still giving me problems with fluid and swelling so having leg massages too. I believe the massages have really helped my back and it has improved further with the leg massages. Keep hoping it will settle fully in time. Our poor backs take a hammering before we have this surgery due to the lack of ability to squat etc and then post surgery we have to relearn to walk properly rather than limping. I feel all these factors cause all sorts of aches and pains later on as our bodies heal. I can now squat down to the floor to pick things up and am trying to retrain my body to do it without thinking rather than using my back all the time. I will get there I am sure.:confused:

Take care
Margaret
it's been a long 3 months(Nov. 2) since my TKR , like alot of people here I thought 2 months and back to work.......wrong!.Had a osteotomy in 2002 that was good for 7 yrs then tried synvisc injections that did not help one bit. TKR was the last option. Surgery went well pain meds helped alot . Now 3 + months out flextion is 120, extension is not so great about 3-5 with PT massage. going down stairs is a killer, still some swelling. After PT the next day is bad! Dr. released me to 6 hrs a day at work but paper mill I work in says they cannot accommodate those hrs. ( I work 12 hr shifts on cement floors)so it looks like I can go back 8 hrs a day on Feb. 15, not sure I can be on my feet that long.This has been so much more than I have anticipated. Next week will be my last of PT.Will be on my own then. Lower back is hurting , am walking fine, heel toe but think the extension is causing the pain. the knee aches all the time, never can seem to get it off my mind. Am glad I found this blog to see I am not alone in my thinking. Good luck to you all, will be checking back often.
I check this site out regularly - it gives me hope and comfort. I just don't know if I'm ahead of the curve, behind, or right on, in this healing process. I had my TKR Nov. 17th. My lower back hurts, I have horrible pain on the outside of my knee. I can go up stairs foot over foot with the pain on the outside horrible but I haven't tried to go down yet. I know I'm not ready. I stopped PT and now go to the gym 3 x's a week and ride the bike 30 min. and work out another 20 min. then go in the hot tub for about 15 min. By the time I'm home I'm not feeling as great as I did at the gym. This is the hardest thing I've done! I go to the doc. next Tues. I've been on anti-inflamatories for the last month because I worked too hard for too many days in a row. I'm at 125 (about) and not perfect in straightening. I'll maybe find numbers for sure at the doc. next week. Thanks for all the honesty and info. from this site!
Hi I've been looking at this site for some time now. had my TKR 12/ 1/ 09 still am having PT 2 times a week. Has any one out there gone back to work in the trades? I'm an electration and work construction. I know there are a lot of women on this site. Please parden my spelling.
[QUOTE=beerhunters;4178160]I have a good chiro who gets my spine back in alignment, also have to workout and with both I feel better, if I miss a workout or do not get regular adjustments to my spine, have to use more pain meds, I use hydro 5

hot tub and steam room do wonders for me, usually workouts are 2 hrs our so, back and forth from steamer, hot tub, and swimming[/QUOTE]

I am almost nine weeks out and can tell those who have had surgery more recent, the back pain is excruciating. But fear not, this too will pass. The real pain I have at this point is just above the kneecap and the right side of the knee. It swells and has fluid most every afternoon. I sleep with my ice machine going. I wake up about 2 times each night for about an hour and give it a break, but the ice is so soothing, I may never give it up.

I have a whirlpool bath that I use daily, but I also get massages weekly which help the back and legs. Keep the faith. We can do it. I can already take steps one at a time.

Linda
[QUOTE=mojunk;4178492]Hi I've been looking at this site for some time now. had my TKR 12/ 1/ 09 still am having PT 2 times a week. Has any one out there gone back to work in the trades? I'm an electration and work construction. I know there are a lot of women on this site. Please parden my spelling.[/QUOTE]

I had mine on 12/1/09 also. My husband and I are builders, and I can't imagine being on a jobsite with uneven ground, all sorts of debris and even trying to work 8-10 hours a day. I could do it if I had to. I design the homes, but it would really be a stretch to build at this point. I guess the sorry economy is a blessing for me, as we have not started a spec since last year.

Don't worry about your spelling. If I didn't have spellcheck, I'd be lost.

Linda
Please tell more about Kinesio tape. I went to their website & it sounds interesting. Will ask my PT about it next week. I'm just past 8 weeks (bi-lat knees) & doing really well (my story reads like a lot of messages here). I had tried ace bandaging but it didn't seem to do anything so I'm interested in this other method.

I also strongly endorse the CPM (LIFESAVER!) ~ I hear alot of folks say the only thing that gets exercised is the machine but .... I truly believe that machine & its gentle motion is what got me where I am today (123 flex, PT 2x a wk and I started back to gym 2 times a week for stregnth/cardio 2 weeks ago going very gentle on knees.) I'm still using it tho' not as often as the first month. Have to return it soon but if I could afford one ..... !!! And that Iceman or Cryocuff -- yeah -- my icemaker has been in overdrive! Can't ice & elevate too much.

Pain is transient -- somedays I really just have stiffness that aches until stretched out -- goes away some time on the stationary recum bicycle. I had to take a couple of Norcos the other night -- the pain was almost like the first few weeks. Still trying to find the magic dose of ibuprofen or tylenol when needed but it's nice to have some fairly painfree days and/or have it barely register on the 1-10 scale.

Hey peeps ~ Thanks for listening and your helpful posts. Even tho others where I live have had 1 or both done it's like I'm the only one right now so your collective comments keep me from feeling too lonely. Go Saints or Go Colts?
Yes I am sure it gets better.. and what you describe you sleep is like is exactly what I felt.. I still can't sleep on my side all night I get the exact pain you do in my hip, so I lay on my back for awhile or roll to the other side.. then eventually go back to my surgical side.

And the pain does goes away... it turns into just a ache. I just got up and need to get ready for work and that is one of the times of the day that stinks, takes the knee a little while to want to wake up.. but by the time you are out of the shower... it's ready to move.

As you progress you will realized things that hurt like heck in the beginning and you will have discovered new little annoying things.. but my doc says by six months and a year.. you will be very content...

Mine still swells and gets stiff but the PT said this damp weather has everyone complaining so I have a cool little thing you put in the microwave and put that on my knee sometimes.. it's moist heat and man that thing feels good.

We will teach you all the little tricks..

Have a good day and get some naps in... I gotta get ready for work..
To all you not sleeping.

I used Ambiem one time and got all the side effects mentioned in their ads. Including a trip to the emergency room and being diagnosed with a stroke by the ER doctors. I still have no recollection of the incident. I remembered that I had taken a sleeping pill called Sonata back in the 90's that had no ill effects and no hangover in the morning. My GP wrote me a prescription and I have no trouble falling asleep now. My husband had to bring them to the hospital, because they only had Ambien ordered by my ortho. I can get at least 5 hours sleep, sometimes six or eight.

Now about the back and hip. I'm certified to teach Pilates and have had great results with some of the exercises designed for those aches and pains. Before I started having knee problems I taught 6 classes a week to mostly ladies 35 and over. Pilates are also great for the knees, as I'm 65 days post and taking myself through a 45 minute session every day. I can now do the runners stretch, and lay both knees flat on the mat. I'm due for my next appointment next week and I'm sure doc will release me.

If you want some exercises to do, I'll be glad to explain some to you.

Linda
Hi everyone I realy don't know waht to say to all of you, I had my surgery on Jan 28 2010
but I have to say out of the previous 7 surgeries that I had done on my knee including 3 scopes and 2 infections later i have to say that this was the best surgery I had, the doctor give me an epideral that I beleive was the best and used a nerve blocker so I did not feel any pain until the next day at about 9:30 at night, then it realy got sore so they give me morphine for the night and next morning I started taking percassets for the pain, I find that those are the best pill for pain control, the pain has been around 7 - 8 without meds and about a 3 with them, during the day if the pain is bad I will take 2 percs. if not I take 1 I can go usually about six of seven hours without meds, at night I take two percs. and a sleeping pill before going to sleep, that will be good until about 7 or 8 in the morning, then I usually wait about 1 to 2 more hours depending and how bad the pain is, I do all my exsices once a day but might repeat a few of them throughout the day, my wife will massage my leg for about 1/2 an hour, sometimes it realy hurts but its like a feel good hurt, I asked the dr. about the machine and he said that it was no good, the best is body wait excersis, but told me to take my meds 1/2 an hour before doing physio so I would be pain free almost, he also said that if your body is almost pain free it will also heal alot faster, I also told God the day before my surgery that I was leaving everything in His hands since He is the great physician and that no matter the outcome I tottaly trusted Him, so I also was worry free.
I pray that everyone will be able to lead pain free lives once again, whatever happens don't over do it with exsercis, you have to give your knee and the muscles around enough time to recover.
DON'T give up



[QUOTE=beerhunters;4180386]just passed 16 weeks
tell your PT you have to have the CPM, that was a life saver for me, will be at least a month to drive when u go to the outside PT, mucho ice cant use too much

far more pain than I thought it would be, Keniso tape will help with the swelling to reduce it, my insurance would not pay for it, so I did and the PT put it on, it works wonders with the swelling

muscle strength and balance is the things you will need to be able to walk without fear

left hospital at 85 finished PT at 131, ten weeks late, no more than 130 or the joint could be dislocated and will have to have it done again

walking pretty good now, still have swelling, numbness, at about 3 months stopped using cane, when I went out in public took it with me for support in case I lost my balance or someone hit when I was walking, especially around crowds, people shop like they drive, dont pay attention to what is around them

to help straighten leg, hang leg with heel on pillow, do it at least 2 minutes and suffer the pain, leg is suspended in the air

do the stairs as much as you can, dont be in a hurry, but push the limits when you can[/QUOTE]
Well just popping in to check on all my bionic friends.. first night last night that was a pain in the butt for quite some time... just could not get comfortable so you can all expect a night like that once in awhile. Sitting her in bed with ice on it now to get ready for the day... and took a ibprofen... then I looked out the window... hellllloooooooooooooo.... rain.... guess my knee was telling me the forecast....lol. The things we learn as we progress in our recovery.

Hope everyone has a good day... do your exercises... and I'll be thinking of you, will check on you all later.

As for frozen dinners... I am so lucky... didn't have one the whole time.. my husband loves the kitchen and cooking so I was treated wonderful... he usually cooks dinner anyway but what was fun while I was laid up was all the cute little things he found, the one serving Ben and Jerry's.... things like that.

As far as the constipation (a topic no one likes to discuss I know but on the pain pills it's brutal) He made me small salads, lots of leafy stuff once I got off the coumadin.. drank tons of water and got a stool softner similar to the one they gave me in the hospital.. oh.. drank a glass of prune juice too every morning.. it gets better but.... I googled things to eat that would help me out...key thing though is tons of water and those blessed little red softners...

Think that's it.. gotta get ready for work... hopefully tonite will be a good nights sleep...

See ya all later.
[QUOTE=dinojen;4181818]Well just popping in to check on all my bionic friends.. first night last night that was a pain in the butt for quite some time... just could not get comfortable so you can all expect a night like that once in awhile. Sitting her in bed with ice on it now to get ready for the day... and took a ibprofen... then I looked out the window... hellllloooooooooooooo.... rain.... guess my knee was telling me the forecast....lol. The things we learn as we progress in our recovery.

Hope everyone has a good day... do your exercises... and I'll be thinking of you, will check on you all later.

As for frozen dinners... I am so lucky... didn't have one the whole time.. my husband loves the kitchen and cooking so I was treated wonderful... he usually cooks dinner anyway but what was fun while I was laid up was all the cute little things he found, the one serving Ben and Jerry's.... things like that.

As far as the constipation (a topic no one likes to discuss I know but on the pain pills it's brutal) He made me small salads, lots of leafy stuff once I got off the coumadin.. drank tons of water and got a stool softner similar to the one they gave me in the hospital.. oh.. drank a glass of prune juice too every morning.. it gets better but.... I googled things to eat that would help me out...key thing though is tons of water and those blessed little red softners...

Think that's it.. gotta get ready for work... hopefully tonite will be a good nights sleep...

See ya all later.[/QUOTE]

staying regular is was big part of my recovery
I'm on Day 23 since TKR surgery and can flex 120 and extension at 5. I'm worried about my extension and my therapist seems to be as well, so doing more grueling extension excercises. What a nightmare this extension is!

Trying to decrease my meds as well. Still doing 2 percoset at night time every 4-6 hours. Sleep time is still very brutal as I still am not comfortable on my back and sleeping on side is hit or miss. Plus, knee/leg pain seems worse at night:mad:. Down to 1 percoset every 4-6 hours during the day. I dread my night times. Doing 3 Ibuprofrens (800mg) a day as well.

Outside PT 3x a week still and excercises in my house twice a day. Walked 1/8th mile today without crutches--very slowly. Trying to walk without a limp which is really hard for me. Seems my extension is not making my gate/walking as normal as it should be.

I drove around my neighborhood yesterday to test drive the leg (right), and it tested well. I think I will drive at 4 weeks.

I want to get in the pool next week to excercise--any suggestions for pool excercises?

Good luck to all!
Hope everyone is feeling great today! Well I am going back to work Monday the 15th restricted to 8 hrs(normally 12 hr shifts) 14 weeks since surgery, hope my knee will hold up on the cement floors. PT yesterday had 125 and 2 , not happy at all with extentioin, had the same problem in 2002 with osteotomy, pain is much better, still some stiffness when I get up in the morning. Any good suggestions for some good excercises for extention? I have tried everyting! Going downstairs is better as long as I take my time. I do 200-300 stairs a day at work, not looking forward to that. If I can't do it I will be back out in a heartbeat I've invested to many years to throw it all away by going back to work to soon. Work hard everyone it does get better, just takes a long time, alot long than I anticipated
I am 8 wks out of the 2nd tkr. Also just finished doing 2 wks of teaching. Have been using only ibuprofen Haven't used a cane for many weeks. Just use it when out on the ice. I also was concerned about my quads. I use my hands to get up. Working on it in the pool has helped some, but it is slow going. Getting up from a very low chair is difficult. The therapist said it just takes a lot of time and the Dr. said it may not completely return to full strength.

After exercising in the pool for an hour, I do need some ibuprophen, but sleeping and walking have been good. Going down stairs normally still stretches some but I continue to do it. Going up is no problem.

Good luck to all.
:wave:[QUOTE=dinojen;4185018]Just checking in on all us bionics...

Sounds like everyone is doing pretty good with a few hiccups here and there. Funny about the pain.. some days are good and some days are still pretty nasty.. and this is at 4 mos. post op as of the 15th... guess it just depends on what you do and the weather..

I find it so much easier to get in and out of the car... the tub.. and even getting up off the floor is much easier.. it's just that dang pain.. it's actually not a pain it's just an aggravating hurt...

I really really need to make myself exercise more.. think I will look into getting a bike for here in the house.. my insurance will cover it as long as the dr. gives me a prescription.. so heck ya.. can ride in the morning before I go to work and again when I get home... I'm horribly lazy about walking... fear of hitting the concrete.. have done it so many times.. so need to work on that too... at least around the block. Guess the only thing I have left is getting the strength back. Tried standing on my surgical leg alone.. can do it but not for long and my balance sucks... so that's something else I need to work on.
Hope everyone is fine.. and enjoys their long weekend.;)[/QUOTE]

I live in a gated community and we have a nice workout area with treadmills, bikes, weight machines, elliptical as well as a mat area. I ride the bike for 30 minutes on level 4, then do my PT for 30 minutes followed by 30 minutes of Pilates. At 10 weeks I have full extension, and full flexon. It hurts to press it, but I'm able to do things now I haven't been able to do for years. I could not exist without those daily workouts. I've missed 3 days out of 60 since the day after my staples were removed. I'm addicted to exercise. I take Celebrex and Tylenol. Saving the strong meds for emergency.

I second the motion on getting the bike especially if your Ins. will pay for it. It will do wonders as you strive for your personal best each time.

Another lady in the gym the other day saw me doing my Pilates and asked if she could join me today. Who knows? Maybe I can teach again. I had so much fun when I taught... before knees went so bad. Many of the moves require good knees.

Getting ready to go to the gym.

Take care everyone

Linda
Morning Guys and Gals...
Grumpy how ya doing? You too Matter and everyone else?

Well old Dino is at 120 days post op as of the 15th.. and doing relatively well.
Nights still are the worst. It's no problem getting to sleep, it's when you wake up and realize you have been in one position too long.. but I have managed to learn to sleep on my operated side with my knee straight or bent.. it's just getting it straight that takes awhile...lol.

Went to the city SF on Saturday to celebrate our anniversary.. 30 years.. and had a beautiful dinner.. the kicker was, while we took a cab to the restaurant, I WALKED back to the hotel which I have to admit impressed myself. Took my cane just in case..(fear of concrete).. didn't really use it .. hubby just thought it would be a good idea and he was right. Daily I do fine walking.. I admire those of you that exercise do diligently. I really need to make a better effort at working out, but by the time I get home from work I am pooped.

As for the kneeling, I have no issue really kneeling on my operated knee but then it isn't for a long period of time, but I can get down on it and put pressure on it. Flex is great.. and I think I finally got my extension equal to my right leg, this weekend had horribly burning behind my knee and now it's gone and I noticed my leg really has great extension.

Get cramps in my calves like crazy..nothing horrible.. but flex my ankle up and down and they usually go away... otherwise I really don't have any huge complaints.. still glad I did it.. would do it all over again.

Still take darvocets when I feel the need.. it's usually after being on my leg for a long long period of time or of course at night... but it's not even a daily basis any longer.

Now if I could just get my lazy butt to exercise more it would be great I'm sure. Soon as we get our California weather back I'm hitting the pool.. they say that is the best exercise.

One great thing about this whole thing is the weight loss...:p... Now I just need to keep going.

Wishing you all well... pilates sounds good...think I might try that also.

Well going to do a few stretching exercises before I hit the shower and head for work, just wanted to check in on you all.

Will check back after work... happy PT to all of you that are still going ..
Hi Alaskelly
I have on occasion overdone things and really paid for it - like you. Awake all night with pain - taking lots of pain relief, using heat pack to try to ease bone pain etc but find as time passes - 11 months post op now - that it is happening less and less. My last big 'flare up' was at Christmas when I well and truly overdid it. Made that time rather trying and exhausting for me. I find I just have to stop and rest for a couple of days and then when pain free again get back into everything. I do have a big day coming up soon and am a little concerned, but hope it will go well and will try and rest periodically throughout the day.
Way to go Ladyscout - hope you have a fabulous cruise. I went to Australia (our nearest neighbour) at 4 months and was really thrilled by how much I could manage and enjoy on my travels. Plan to go again later this year and know I will be even more mobile!
Jeanob so sorry to hear of your trials and hope you can get that hip fixed soon. I've been having trouble with the hip on my other side and wonder how much is to do with having a better extension on my new knee and being slightly lop sided when I walk as a result. My PT tells me it won't make any difference but I do wonder.
Just got to get my back right and I will be really happy. Am working on improving my core muscles to help support it and hope that will help.
Margaret
Morning fellow bionics..

Had my TKR on the 15th of Oct. and went back to work at 7 weeks post op. I sit at a desk all day too.. I do get stiff but found that I put a small stool under my desk that way it's not just hanging there or I can stretch it out straight if I want to.. plus the girls or Melisa in my office says "come on Jen time for a stretch".. so I go with her while she grabs a smoke outside...lol. I do find when I am at home and watch tv on the sofa it's pretty tough still to get up and get going.. but once I'm up it's okay.

Still achy, still feels swollen at times and I just got the riot act read to me last night from my beloved husband about not exercising enough...:dizzy: which I know he is right. So this morning before the shower I did my squats and stuff like that.. this weekend I'm off to look for a bike for the house. That way I can ride it for a bit in the morning and then when I come home I can watch my taped soap and ride it then.. won't seem like so long then...lol. Can you tell I'm not a real big exercise fan.. I have a step master too in the gym where I live so I guess next week it's a new regime for me.

Don't worry about going back to work, my boss has been great, keeps asking me if I'm still happy I did it.. and answer is the same everytime... YES.. the bone on bone pain was horrendous compared to just feeling uncomfortable at times now.

Find myself wondering if I should of kept up PT longer but I really really really didn't like my therapist. She would put me in a room, give me three sheets of papers with exercises on it.. (the same ones they sent me home from the hospital with) I rode a bike for 10 mins... the she would come in and tell me to do some leg lifts.. rub my scar for maybe five minutes.. then time for ice and stim.. and for this I paid HOW MUCH... I can do all that by myself.. I even have the stim machine... so... I wish I would of had someone a little more demanding of me and spent more time with me as a patient. My doctor said anytime I felt I needed more therapy just to ask... thankfully he still gives me my meds.. it's just darvocet.. but sure comes in handy for those "off days".. and I have 800 mg. ibprofen too. I think if I decide to go back to therapy I will go down to where my dr. is and use their therapist.. I would never ever recommend the one I had, she was horrible. After having my ACL done in 1995 I know what rehab is.. I know what the therapy should be like.. and this lady was useless.

Dang I'm long winded today.. I'm sorry..

Anyway for those of you post op shortly.. it does get better.. and the pain does lessen. I can lay in bed now with now pillow under my knee just totally flat.. Sometimes it takes a little longer to slide that puppy straight but it goes straight so that's a good thing.

Just do your exercises.. drink tons of water...and keep good thoughts.. it will all be worth it after awhile.. with each accomplishment you do you will feel fantastic. I think of this everytime I get in my car.. I had to lift my leg in before... now it's just hop in and go.. I love it.

Sorry again for blabbering... Hope everyone has a good day.. will check in later..
[QUOTE=beerhunters;4193203]the PT told me to buy a real good pair of walking shoes, I bought a pair of new balance, what a difference they make[/QUOTE]


I was wondering about that... was just telling hubby needed a new pair of tennis shoes.. going to check into the New Balance... hopefully it will help my "balance"... lol... that's one thing I have noticed is still just a tad off.. like someone else was saying about standing on one leg.. I can do it.. but not for long time and my balance sucks when I do it...

That's another thing my old PT use to make me do for my ACL rehab.. do this balance board thing with a ball under it.. harder than heck.. but boy it sure worked..

Thanks for the idea about the shoes.
Hi Dinojen
You will love having the home bike I am sure - it has made all the difference to me. My hubby made me a book stand that sits over the control panel and I just set the time and cycle away reading a book or magazine and the time just flies by.
I have found that to keep things going I really need to do exercise every day. It stops me stiffening up (although if I sit for an hour or more I do anyway and feel like the Tinman in need of some good oil) but it quickly loosens up again.
Margaret
Hi all - it's 4:30am and I'm awake. Waiting for a pill to kick in. After an hour in a warm tub, I'm just about ready to try to go back to sleep. I did get to see the US 4 man bobsled team win Gold so that was good. My cat's awake to. She is good company during the night. Luckily, my husband is still in the guest room and from the looks of it will be for a while longer. Can't wait to be normal again - except I didn't sleep well before surgery either. Maybe sleeping all night is abnormal? Anyway, I don't know what I would do without these boards. It is so nice to know there are other people who are going through this or already are past this stage. Unless you have had this surgery, it is very hard to understand. You look like you should feel fine, but it just takes so long to totally recover. I know some folks, a couple of years out and they say that life does go back to normal and to be patient. But it's hard. I mean it didn't take this long to feel normal after a c-section and there was a lot of slicing and dicing there. Who would have thought that a leg would give you this much trouble, but appear to be practically normal except a zipper looking thing going down your kneecap?
Well time to try to sleep....Grumpy-but-not-Sleepyathome........
[QUOTE=milliejs;4194299]I guess no one can hep....thanks anyway....[/QUOTE]

milliejs: I just read your post regarding your swelling problems. I too had lots of swelling after surgery. I am now four months out, and guess what, I still have some right above my knee that doesn't want to go away. This swelling was my biggest problem from the start. It prevents flexion and moving ahead with range of motion. My Dr says it may take an entire year for all of it to go away, and maybe longer. He told me that some people just get it, and others don't, no reason to explain. What I did, and still do although less often, I make sure that I elevate it most of the time when I am staionary. I iced and used heat alternately. I also wore my compression stockings for over three months. Sometimes when I am at work, I still wear them, as I am a nurse and on my feet. If you feel stiff when you walk, I did too at your stage, and sometimes still. It does loosen up faster and stays loose longer though the more time goes by. Be sure you do your exercises everyday, ride a bike, and do lots of quad exercises, and short arc quad sets.
We tried everything from a very stiff compression bandage, to ace wraps, to estim, etc, and it continued to stay swollen. I think my Dr is right. although frustrating and uncomfortable, tincture of time is the best medicine. It just takes a long time for all of the swelling and inflammation to go away and that goes along with healing. I hope I have helped a little. I know how frustrating it is.
[QUOTE=milliejs;4194299]I guess no one can hep....thanks anyway....[/QUOTE]

I'm 90 days tomorrow. I had swelling and fluid on the right side for the first 60-70 days. I ride the bike almost everyday and do my PT exercises faithfully. My quads were so painful for the first 60 days I did everything to stop the pain. My doctor said that was very normal since to replace the knee the muscles had to be cut above and below the knee.

This might not be for you, but it helped me understand the whole procedure and why I hurt so bad. I actually googled and watched a TKR on the web. Once I saw all that was involved in the operation, I understood the awful pain. Truth is, I watched it before the procedure. Anther thing, Ortho's don't have a lot of sympathy for the pain involved. My GP, (I wish everyone had her) was the first to proclaim that bit of inside info. She has kept me in Hydocodone 5mg, that has helped me get through the daily therapy. Most of us are too tough to get hooked, but there is always the chance. I take one 5mg tablet just before my PT and Tylenol the rest of the day.

Your quads will get better. Just give it some time.

Linda
Been reading lots of threads about TKR and picking up lots of info thanks to all the posts here. Doc told me I need a knee replacement - waiting for my appt with another ortho at large med center in Chicago now. I used to work there and this doc is likely the one who will do surgery if he agrees it is necessary. Scared of the whole process to be truthful ---------

thanks to info on this forum I started pre-op exercises. Figured it would help later and what the heck I need to strengthen the knee any way you look at it. Got book recommended on this forum from the library and found it really easy to read. Have read so many posts this last week or so and followed several people thru surgery and recovery via their posts. You guys are wonderful support to one another and I was very lucky to have found this site so early on in this whole process.

Millie - I looked in the book I have on knee replacement regarding swelling and the recommendations are of course ice and also elevation of the operated leg above the level of the heart (says one hour twice a day) and use of compression stockings or TED hose. Says the hose are easier to put one in the morning after you have been in bed and your leg is least swollen. Says to ask surgeon how long per day to wear and also that most surgeons will want you to wear them all the time except while sleeping & bathing. Hope that is of some help - I haven't been thru this all yet but the author is an ortho doc who has been thru TKR both as surgeon and as TKR patient.

Thanks again to all you guys/gals who have shared your experiences and I wish you all wonderful recovery and I will be trying to remember all I am learning here. As Arnold said "I'll be back!"

Rusty
use mucho ice packs, used them constantly
chiro ice packs, they look like letter size, would use 2 at a time, one on top or and other on bottom of knee, then wrap them tight to stay on, doesnt take long to melt, knee is so hot

have 8 of them, use them round the clock, about an hour and have to change them, for me, ice and using the cpm machine was key to my recovery
I had my left knee replaced 7 weeks and 2 days ago. I thought I would be perfect by now. The best thing I've found so far? The messages that people have written here about thier knee replacements. I can't believe how much I cry and it isn't from medication. I just feel so hopeless. I keep thinking there is something wrong with my knee or something wrong with me (totally defective person). I am scheduled to go back to work in two weeks. There is no way I can do my job in two weeks. I am a public defender and my job is very active....lots of walking, lots of getting up and down and things to carry, all the time. I can walk without the walker or a cane, but not very far or very long. I have not driven yet because I am still on pain pills. My knee is so stiff and so swollen, it feels like it weighs 50 pounds. I have had complete/perfect extension from the beginning and I get 112 to 115 knee bend at physical therapy.

My knee clicks, when I walk. Did anyone else have that? It drives me nuts. The medical people just shake thier heads, when I talk about it. I've heard it might go away and it might be there forever. It doesn't just click once, it goes click, click, click and sort of reverberates thru my body.

I think that every concern I've had has been brought up by someone in these messages. I think the hardest thing for me is that I know how important it is to work hard and then, when I do, I am incapcitated for the whole next day.

I have never been a very active person, so the physical therapy I am doing is probably the most exercise I've ever had in my life. I am, of course, quite overweight and think that probably adds to the difficulty I am having with my recovery. But I am what I am.

I don't think I'll really be ready to go back to work in two weeks.

Any comments will be appreciated.
Linda,
We are about the same time out (Dec 16). Good luck to you. With regard to the dentist. You will need to have those antibiotics for 5 years according to my dentist. He likes to error on the side of caution. We don't want infection to go into our new knees. I have been working since week 6 and am still doing water walking 2-3 times a week. Things just keep getting better. (Plus the snow is melting and the sun is shining.)
Good luck with your wrist.
Bionics is certainly a better option than the pain before.

Mary
Frankly,
Sorry to hear you are having such a time. I am overweight too. Have you gotten a second opinion on your knee clicking? It seem excessive. Mine only has clicked once or twice.
Since you were doing a lot of walking before, it seems you were in better shape than you thought you were. Getting up and down is one of the last things to come back. As for carrying a lot of things. I have used a roller briefcase. It also helped with back strain. I have noticed a lot of teachers doing this now.
Hope you are able to get some help soon. Can you get some assistance at work when you have to return.
I have found water walking in a warm water pool to be best therapy.
Everyone has different experiences.
Good luck to you.

Mary
Hi guys... another first was accomplished.. woo hoo... and it was totally enjoyable... I am so happy...

Will be 5 mos. post op on the 15th of this month and I made my first trip to the MALL... OMG OMG OMG... you have no idea how long it has been since I have been to the mall. I'm dead serious.. I shopped places that had carts to hold on too.. Target, Walmart, TJ Maxx.. was terrified of getting in the mall and not being able to get out and that was even before surgery..

So yesterday we hit the mall... got two pairs of shoes.. woo hoo.. and one wasn't tennis shoes... I am doing a happy dance... lol... I have lived in tennies just because I felt safe in them. Then headed to the home goods department and did some damage there... went up and down the escalators.. have to admit I was kind of freaked the first time.. but was fine... I took my cane with me just because it was the first trip.. and didn't want to make a fool of myself. Have to admit by the time I got home yes I was sore and tired.. I always did hate the hard floors in malls.. hard on your feet.... lol. Hubby was very proud of me... Even celebrated with a margarita when I got home...:p

Today I was sitting on the sofa.. and I was moving my leg around and heard all this clicking or crunching.. and I thought was the heck is that so I did a few exercises, bending and straightening it out.. and poof it was gone.. and knee felt fine.. think it has alot to do with scar tissue.. that's why it's important to keep it moving. I had some really really scary clicking in the beginning and that's when I was told about the scar tissue.. it's your knee doing what it is suppose to do.. breaking up scar tissue... not a pleasant feeling but once you break it up.. knee sure feels better.

That's about all my news.. just had to share about my outing to the mall.. it sure did feel good.. and we didn't even use a handicapped parking spot.. I walked from the parking lot to the mall.. I am so excited...

Will check in later... gotta do a few things... then I'm going to watch the Oscar's..

Hope everyone is well and feeling better each day... I am so happy I did the surgery.. each day I learn something new I can do that I couldn't so before.. only thing I notice is hubby's car is harder for me to get in than mine.. weird and they are both SUV's... I don't get it.. but I'm not complaining... lol
Mary,
As I read these post, I feel so bad for those who are having such a hard time. My doc told me when he released me that he had never had such a speedy recovery from a TKR patient. I lost 15 pounds during the first 3 weeks from just not eating. Then as I began to do the exercise I lost more. I really can't function without the daily workouts. I had been a slug for several years because of the knee, and was really out of shape. I now workout about 2 hours on MWF, and ride the bike everyday for 30 minutes along with PT.
Our club has a really nice workout room so I don't have to go far. We don't have a heated pool, but as soon as we get our "HOT CENTRAL TEXAS" weather, I'll be water walking. In the meantime, I get in a hot jacuzzi tub at night and do lots of knee extensions. The Pilates help also. I have such a small amount of pain now, that I just use Tylenol.

I'll keep in touch,
Linda
LadyScout,

I'm so sorry for your problems. Some of the things I did were kinda silly, but they helped me. I put on up tempo (disco) music and did a lot of marching in place. I would then go to the stair case, and walk up and down the first step like I used to do in step classes. I can't help but think the clicking, which I have from time to time, is scar tissue. When I have the clicking, I get in a warm tub with aches and pains bath salts, Wal-Mart has a really good selection or buy epson salts and just add a few drops of eucalyptus oil and massage oil and do lots of knee to nose bends. After a few moments, the clicking goes away for me.

I have been told by my Doctor, who jokingly likes to tell me he's the reason I'm doing so well, that all the exercise I'm doing is the reason for my speedy recovery.

Keep trying as hard as possible to move the knee and know there will be pain. I have talked to people who were still having clicking pain after a year. This surgery is the worst I've ever had. I also like to "what if" at times. What if this surgery was not available to me and I had to suffer like my grandmother did? She would have a hoe in one hand and lean on a crutch with the other because she loved her garden so much. At night her knees would be the size of cantaloupes with no relief in sight.

I'll be thinking of you,
Linda
The old "No pain, no gain" saying doesn't go for TKR therapy the PT said. It's good to push, but NOT TOO MUCH.

I didn't have much trouble going down stairs correctly, but the PT said if I did, turn around and go down backward. That is what I did several years ago when I tore the ligaments in my ankle.

Maybe this will help some of you who are having stair difficulties.

Some people are having trouble sleeping. If sleeping on my side, I lay a small round pillow directly on the bed and support my knee (and lower leg) on the pillow. It keeps it feeling much better and sleeping has been good for quite some time.

Have a better day tomorrow.
Alaskelly,

It makes me so sad to hear the problems some are having with their TKR. Did you have both done at the same time? I had my surgery on Dec 1st. I got a stomach virus the 3rd week for 3 days. Maybe a blessing in disguise since it had me running (literally) to the bathroom. It sure got my knee moving.

My PT brought a mini bicycle that set on the floor for my out patient therapy. When I stopped the in home PT, I purchased my own. They are completely mobile, in fact they fold up and fit in a closet. I ordered mine on line. They cost about $30.00. Mine had a timer and a way to increase the tension. I started out at 10 minutes and increased to 30. I now go to my gym and use their bicycle. Keep warm, it sounds like you live in the frozen tundra.

Linda
flabcat,

My little dog does a tap dance now every time I put my shoes on. I can now take her for walks and it really feels great. I started out with 1/2 a mile and now up to a 1.5 miles. The real knee sometimes hurts afterwards, but I guess I will replace that one at some point. Ain't medical science great?

Linda
I had myTKR on Feb 16th. It is not what I expected. I had a great deal of pain when they took me off the morphine after 12 hrs and put me on oral meds. They went through a load of meds before they found one that worked. They sent me to PT where I went into a crying jag. I was transfered to a rehab facility where I got PT & OT for a total of 3 hrs aday. After 5 days I was sent home and a therapist came to my home twice a week for thereapy and protine tests. After 2 weeks I began going to a out patient PT facility. I have completed on week there and when I am feeling whinny they pretty much look at me like I am crazy. I know we all heal at different rates but its hard not to be frustrated by this process. At my one month point I can walk with a limp, can take the stairs one at a time and have an 80 degree bend. That has not improved in 2 weeks. I am constantly moving my knee, massaging the scar and stretching the thigh muscles. They all seem very tight and on the verge of a charlie horse. My outer thigh goes cold and pins & needles when I lay down. I've developed a feeling of cold further down my leg just about mid calf.
I am taking only Ibuprophen & Tylenol for pain and inflamation. I still have difficulty going to the bathroom. I only have a few more days of taking coumadin for which I am glad. But I still have calf pain when I sleep.
[QUOTE=mzfitz40;4203953]I had myTKR on Feb 16th. It is not what I expected. I had a great deal of pain when they took me off the morphine after 12 hrs and put me on oral meds. They went through a load of meds before they found one that worked. They sent me to PT where I went into a crying jag. I was transfered to a rehab facility where I got PT & OT for a total of 3 hrs aday. After 5 days I was sent home and a therapist came to my home twice a week for thereapy and protine tests. After 2 weeks I began going to a out patient PT facility. I have completed on week there and when I am feeling whinny they pretty much look at me like I am crazy. I know we all heal at different rates but its hard not to be frustrated by this process. At my one month point I can walk with a limp, can take the stairs one at a time and have an 80 degree bend. That has not improved in 2 weeks. I am constantly moving my knee, massaging the scar and stretching the thigh muscles. They all seem very tight and on the verge of a charlie horse. My outer thigh goes cold and pins & needles when I lay down. I've developed a feeling of cold further down my leg just about mid calf.
I am taking only Ibuprophen & Tylenol for pain and inflamation. I still have difficulty going to the bathroom. I only have a few more days of taking coumadin for which I am glad. But I still have calf pain when I sleep.[/QUOTE]

You need to get back on prescription pain meds.
[QUOTE=GaterGal;4203993]You need to get back on prescription pain meds.[/QUOTE]

Hi Gater... Boy do I agree with you... yikes at no pain meds... tomorrow will be my 5th month anniversary... I can't believe it ... and I still have my little pink pleasure pills (darvocets) they work perfect for the days that I have done a little too much. AND.. I think you really need something for those bad nights that we all have.

Doing pretty well actually, some days are better than others.. but realized yesterday I could get in hubby's car now without having to go butt first..lol.
Went shopping yesterday for four hours... that's alot of walking... but wasn't horrible after we got home.. tolerable.

Doing tons of squats when I think about it and stretch in the shower and let the warm water hit the back of my knee... funny it still looks bigger than my other one... but it's not warm anymore like it use to be.

Can't wait to get in the pool... that is a for sure thing... some of you that do water exercises need to let me know what ones you do.. I've never done them before.

Still procrastinating about doing more exercise... told me boss the other day.. you get cocky after you can do things that you couldn't before and think I'm all better but inside my feeble little brain I'm thinking .. god what a slacker you are...

Oh.. one other question for you guys that went in about the same time I did.. Oct. 15. I noticed the other day when I was sitting on the sofa and when you flex your knee do you all hear like a crunching sound... doesn't hurt.. it just makes a noise and after you flex your knee a bunch of times it goes away.. I'm assuming it's scar tissue crunching around... anyone got a clue?

For all you newbie "bionic club members" Hang in there.. I hate that some of you are having a harder recovery than some of us had. I guess we were just very fortunate. Like I say... I can't believe tomorrow will be 5 mos... it's gone by so fast..

Hope everyone is doing well.. recovering... exercising...(do some for me while I'm being lazy...lol) and icing.. I use to tell my friend.. "google is my friend".. I have changed that to "icing is my best friend"

P.S. I found these really really cool little gel packs.. bought two of them and have them just in my refrigerator in my office at work... they are fantastic.. they get cool so well and I just wrap it around my knee if it's bothering me.. works great...

Will check back later... Need to read back and see how Grumpy is doing..

:wave:
[QUOTE=mzfitz40;4203953]I had myTKR on Feb 16th. It is not what I expected. I had a great deal of pain when they took me off the morphine after 12 hrs and put me on oral meds. They went through a load of meds before they found one that worked. They sent me to PT where I went into a crying jag. I was transfered to a rehab facility where I got PT & OT for a total of 3 hrs aday. After 5 days I was sent home and a therapist came to my home twice a week for thereapy and protine tests. After 2 weeks I began going to a out patient PT facility. I have completed on week there and when I am feeling whinny they pretty much look at me like I am crazy. I know we all heal at different rates but its hard not to be frustrated by this process. At my one month point I can walk with a limp, can take the stairs one at a time and have an 80 degree bend. That has not improved in 2 weeks. I am constantly moving my knee, massaging the scar and stretching the thigh muscles. They all seem very tight and on the verge of a charlie horse. My outer thigh goes cold and pins & needles when I lay down. I've developed a feeling of cold further down my leg just about mid calf.
I am taking only Ibuprophen & Tylenol for pain and inflamation. I still have difficulty going to the bathroom. I only have a few more days of taking coumadin for which I am glad. But I still have calf pain when I sleep.[/QUOTE]

Yes, you need more meds. The surgeon is the place to go.

The hospital I was in gave a booklet of exercises to do an at what time. PT started in the hospital the 1st day after surgery at JOINT CAMP.(A group of people in the same boat.) That really helped.

The first was and still is sitting in the recliner with a cookie sheet under my foot and leg. It makes sliding the foot to bend the knee a lot easier. At first I used a towel or belt to help me slide the foot up toward my body. Then it gets easier and you can do it without the towel. This is done about 20 times three times per day.

There are a lot of other exercises that were recommended. I did all of them religiously and was very lucky to progress rapidly.

If you have a place to get water therapy, that may help you.

Good luck. ( I am 90 days out and doing very well.)
[QUOTE=dinojen;4204028]Hi Gater... Boy do I agree with you... yikes at no pain meds... tomorrow will be my 5th month anniversary... I can't believe it ... and I still have my little pink pleasure pills (darvocets) they work perfect for the days that I have done a little too much. AND.. I think you really need something for those bad nights that we all have.

Doing pretty well actually, some days are better than others.. but realized yesterday I could get in hubby's car now without having to go butt first..lol.
Went shopping yesterday for four hours... that's alot of walking... but wasn't horrible after we got home.. tolerable.

Doing tons of squats when I think about it and stretch in the shower and let the warm water hit the back of my knee... funny it still looks bigger than my other one... but it's not warm anymore like it use to be.

Can't wait to get in the pool... that is a for sure thing... some of you that do water exercises need to let me know what ones you do.. I've never done them before.

Still procrastinating about doing more exercise... told me boss the other day.. you get cocky after you can do things that you couldn't before and think I'm all better but inside my feeble little brain I'm thinking .. god what a slacker you are...

Oh.. one other question for you guys that went in about the same time I did.. Oct. 15. I noticed the other day when I was sitting on the sofa and when you flex your knee do you all hear like a crunching sound... doesn't hurt.. it just makes a noise and after you flex your knee a bunch of times it goes away.. I'm assuming it's scar tissue crunching around... anyone got a clue?

For all you newbie "bionic club members" Hang in there.. I hate that some of you are having a harder recovery than some of us had. I guess we were just very fortunate. Like I say... I can't believe tomorrow will be 5 mos... it's gone by so fast..

Hope everyone is doing well.. recovering... exercising...(do some for me while I'm being lazy...lol) and icing.. I use to tell my friend.. "google is my friend".. I have changed that to "icing is my best friend"

P.S. I found these really really cool little gel packs.. bought two of them and have them just in my refrigerator in my office at work... they are fantastic.. they get cool so well and I just wrap it around my knee if it's bothering me.. works great...

Will check back later... Need to read back and see how Grumpy is doing..

:wave:[/QUOTE]

Just came from "water PT". I start by walking forward and backward for 5-10 min. (The rest can be in any order). Then do side leg lifts for 25 reps; front kicks for 25 reps; Forward long steps to stretch the calves and thighs; Bicycling movement in water for 10 - 15 min; Step up and down on the step in the water (ours is 11 inches); Stand on step and do Squats in the water with both legs; squat on one leg then the other. (Start slowly on this one). Last cool down walking forward and backward for at least another 5 min. It helps if someone is there so you keep talking. The only problem is I sometimes end up doing too much then. But the time goes rapidly.

GOOD LUCK from a double bionic.
I haven't written for a long time because I thougth someone had reported my message as a bad post. I thought that because it has a little green light that seems to be "lit", just above the place where it says to report a bad post. I just went through a lot of messages to see if anyone else had these green lights. I have them on all of my messages. But so does Frannyia....in my computer, she has them on all of her posts too. What do they mean? If I offended anyone, I am so sorry. But I can't figure out what I did wrong. I thought it was only my last message, but now that I've gone back, I see that it is in all of my messages. I really like this site. There are so many useful posts. I am still having such a hard time. I am scheduled to go back to work next Monday and I don't see how that is humanly possible. We do not have "light duty" on my job. I either do the job or don't. I have lots of sick leave, so that isn't an issue. I've sort of reached the place where I am afraid I am never going to get better. I try to do a lot of exercises, every day. My knee is so stiff, so hard, so swollen, and from time to time, so painful. I am kind of in shock. I try not to get too depressed. It will be 8 weeks this coming Friday.
[QUOTE=frankly;4204560]
My knee is so stiff, so hard, so swollen, and from time to time, so painful. I am kind of in shock. I try not to get too depressed. It will be 8 weeks this coming Friday.[/QUOTE]

I know exactly what you feel like. I am 4 weeks out from mine and its seems like there is very little improvement for awhile then I'll notice something as simple as being able to roll in bed without feeling like its pulling apart. I discovered I can lay on my stomach for a little while. Not long enough to sleep but at least I can get the pressure off the the back and hip.

I am at 88 degree bend and 7 degree straight. I have no idea if thats the norm at this point.
Oh please hang in there! I am now at 17 weeks and just really feeling better. I am and have always been extremely active and this time has really depressed me -plus I'm up for more surgery due to a ligament rubbing the implant. I'm not glad I had the surgery but I had no choice with bone on bone. Maybe down the road. It will feel better each month though the months didn't seem to go fast enough. I hated that I was wishing it was bedtime during the day and wishing it was morning during the night. I wasn't comfortable either place. I'm more comfortable now both during the night and the day - not great but better. It does get better. I keep hanging onto the people who are ahead of me on the time-line. I use a "slumber jack" - backpacking pillow - between my legs/knees to sleep. Haven't had pain killers since just after the 3 week point - emotionally wasn't good for my attitude and did little for the pain. Hang in there - like what else are you going to do? :-)
[QUOTE=frankly;4204560]I haven't written for a long time because I thougth someone had reported my message as a bad post. I thought that because it has a little green light that seems to be "lit", just above the place where it says to report a bad post. I just went through a lot of messages to see if anyone else had these green lights. I have them on all of my messages. But so does Frannyia....in my computer, she has them on all of her posts too. What do they mean? If I offended anyone, I am so sorry. But I can't figure out what I did wrong. I thought it was only my last message, but now that I've gone back, I see that it is in all of my messages. I really like this site. There are so many useful posts. I am still having such a hard time. I am scheduled to go back to work next Monday and I don't see how that is humanly possible. We do not have "light duty" on my job. I either do the job or don't. I have lots of sick leave, so that isn't an issue. I've sort of reached the place where I am afraid I am never going to get better. I try to do a lot of exercises, every day. My knee is so stiff, so hard, so swollen, and from time to time, so painful. I am kind of in shock. I try not to get too depressed. It will be 8 weeks this coming Friday.[/QUOTE]

Frankly,

Don't get discouraged. I have had ACL, Rotator cuff, Hysterectomy, several broken bones and double bunionectomy (with horrible results), and they don't hold a candle to the TKR. My surgery was December 1st, and even though I had a good recovery it was the most painful surgery I have ever experienced. At 8 weeks I was still in a lot of pain. One thing. You need a good GP. Orthos don't really have much sympathy and will only give pain meds for a brief period. My GP filled me a script for pain. She was the first to inform me that Orthos were oblivious to pain. Keep working the knee everyday. I've seen several post on this board saying the old adage "no pain no gain" doesn't apply to TKR. I beg to differ. How is it possible to rehabilitate a bionic knee without pain?

Linda
[QUOTE=frankly;4205389]Linda and GaterGal....thanks for your replies. I am still on pain meds---vicodan.....which I feel is like next to nothing. I do think that one has to be very careful not to experience too much pain with this recovery. My first (at home) physical thearpist even told me that. I am having such an up and down recovery. I can do so much but I am still so worn out; my knee hurts so much; I never get a decent night's sleep; my knee gets so stiff, I can't do leg lifts. I feel like I am a failure. I am afraid I am not doing enough exercising. I try really hard to exercise off and on all day and then the next day, I am practically incapcitated. Today is one of my "bad" days and I am so miserable. I have an appointment with the surgeon's nurse practitioner, tomorrow. I am praying that he agrees that I am not ready to go back to work. I have another issue that probably doesn't help much--COPD. I figure it messes with my energy level. I can't walk very long with out having to sit down. I just want to throw myself down some place and cry and cry and cry. How silly is that?[/QUOTE]

It's not silly. What's silly is thinking you can recover from TKR in a heartbeat. I watched a video online before surgery just to be informed what was going to happen. I know most people would cringe at the thought, but I thought it was important to know what the doctors were going to do. It's not pretty, but it educated me to know this was no drop in the bucket. My husband thought I was gory. I knew that I would have excruciating pain in my quads and calfs because they have to cut into the muscles above and below the kneecap. It takes a long time for those muscles to rehab and heal. The only way to speed up the rehab is to work those muscles. That's why I say to those who say "no pain no gain" are foolish to believe such nonsense. Rehab can be painful, but rewarding when you can go up and down stairs like most people can;
Linda
I agree. This pain is totally different than childbirth. It just goes on and on and on till you wonder if it ever will be better. At 7 weeks now I still have such a nagging hurting so much of the time and still can't walk without a limp, but the Dr says I'm doing just great and shouldn't be needing pain meds anymore!! Just Tylenol, which doesn't do anything. I still have times I just feel like sitting and crying. Maybe I'll have to ask him for medication for my nerves if he won't give pain meds. I'm wishing you all much courage!
[QUOTE=mzfitz40;4207974]I am at 6 weeks and having difficulty getting past 88 degrees. I have a tightness over my knee cap and the patellar tendon is still very thick. I still have swelling in my thigh above the knee as well. I have the feeling that my ham string is very tight behind my knee. It is drawn taunt and I can feel it protruding out the back of my knee. My other knee is not like that. When bending the knee I have pain in the back of my knee as well as to the inner front side of my knee cap. My therapist thinks I need to push past the pain. Besides the fear of doing damage to the knee from screaming my lungs out, how does on do that? I've been prescribed Darvocet which does nothing for the pain experienced in PT.

I see my surgeon this week and am wondering if manipulation is the thing I need to get past this point. I am afraid it will get worse the longer I wait.
Have any of you had this problem. Did you get past the pain or succum to manipulation under anesthesia?[/QUOTE]

I'm over 3 months out, but have been playing golf since the 2nd month. I did push past the pain. I also took long hot baths with pain killing salts and bent my knee back and forth until I could set with my arms wrapped around both knees with forehead to the knees. I held those positions for 1 minute for about 10-15 times pressing the knees closer each time. I can now do the runners stretch. I'm riding the exercise bike 30 minutes a day adjusted as close up as I can get it to the handlebars so that the knee has to bend more. It hurts in the beginning but after about 1 or 2 minutes the pain slowly subsides. Try adjusting it a little each day until you can ride with the knees almost touching the handlebars.

Good Luck,

Linda
[QUOTE=jmlm4245;4208578]I'm over 3 months out, but have been playing golf since the 2nd month. I did push past the pain. I also took long hot baths with pain killing salts and bent my knee back and forth until I could set with my arms wrapped around both knees with forehead to the knees. I held those positions for 1 minute for about 10-15 times pressing the knees closer each time. I can now do the runners stretch. I'm riding the exercise bike 30 minutes a day adjusted as close up as I can get it to the handlebars so that the knee has to bend more. It hurts in the beginning but after about 1 or 2 minutes the pain slowly subsides. Try adjusting it a little each day until you can ride with the knees almost touching the handlebars.

Good Luck,

Linda[/QUOTE]

Hi - I too take a lot of long hot baths. What kind and where do you find pain killing salts? And do they have fragrance - I'm allergic to flowery smells. I am a little over 2 months out. I plan on trying out your bath bends next time I'm in the tub.
G@home
Grumpy,

Wal-Mart and other big box stores like Target, as well as chain drugstores like Walgreens carry liquid bath therapy for aches and pains. The one I use smells quite medicinal instead of flowery. If you locate the Calgon, you will find the aches and pains therapy. I even think Calgon has a aches and pains soak. If the smell is too flowery, there's always plain epsom salts with a little eucalyptus added. It will soothe the muscles and at the same time help you breath better. You might also check with Bath and Body Works. They have some great spa bath products. They have an oil based sugar scrub that will also be good for the scar.

Linda
[QUOTE=jmlm4245;4208578]I'm over 3 months out, but have been playing golf since the 2nd month. I did push past the pain. I also took long hot baths with pain killing salts and bent my knee back and forth until I could set with my arms wrapped around both knees with forehead to the knees. I held those positions for 1 minute for about 10-15 times pressing the knees closer each time.

Good Luck,

Linda[/QUOTE]

Linda, do you have an extra deep bathtub? If I bent my knees like that in the bathtub they would be out of the water.

We have a hot tub and the Dr. says no for about another 3 weeks. Maybe we could turn the temp down a little and then I could treat it like a bathtub. What do you all think?
[QUOTE=HiMaintenance;4207924]Gloria, every now and then I'll get a very sharp debilitating pain in my knee (like someone is stabbing my leg). I'm 8 weeks out. The pain is horrible, but I think it's getting less and less now...maybe once a day. I do one darvecet before my PT. I do one motrin usually after the day while icing (I love to ice!). Physically, I'm doing extremely well, just trying to get my strength back now. I'm going skiing next week (very light beginer runs with my wife), so I'm sure that will take a ton out of me. I don't know how your rehabing with 2 young kids, but hang in there!!!![/QUOTE]

Thanks for letting me know I'm not the only one with this stabbing pain. My PT massaged the heck out of my IT band today and every other muscle in my knee. Just woke up feeling very sore so a hot bath at 1:30 in the am hits the spot. I did try to quit the meds cold turkey but find one at night time seems to take the edge off.

Did you say you were going Skiing next week? Aren't you worried your gonna tear your knee apart. I think we are about the same age and I know I have some ideas of what I want to be doing once I recovered but your braver than me. I don't want to have this surgery again for a very long time. Sorry for worrying I'm a mom of 4 can't help it.
I would hate to try to do 2 knees at a time. Both of mine are bad, but I'll do them one at a time. Is there no medication for your thyroid that will help with the weight? I was 30 lbs. overweight due to inactivity from the knees. I can now ride the stationary bike for 30 minutes a day and have lost 20 lbs since my surgery Dec 1st. I hope you can lose some of the weight before the surgery. It will be so much easier for you. My doctor said about a year before the surgery while we were trying shots, minor surgery, all the conservative things you do to prevent TKR, that the stationary bike was the only aerobic exercise that was acceptable for knees. I was such a slug at the time though, all I wanted to do was wait for the TKR. This, coming from a serial exerciser. I taught step classes, low impact aerobics and Pilates for years in my 30's to 50's. I now am back to my exercise addiction.

When is your surgery? Keep in mind that although the recovery will be brutal, you will feel so much better and wonder why you ever waited so long.

Linda
[QUOTE=cmason75;4210147]:I was told today that I need total knee replacement of both knees. I have thryoid problems and currently weigh 315 lbs. I want to lose weight before surgery because I don't think it will do any good if I don't. I have a great doctor that understands how much they hurt. I take 4 10mg percocet a day and at least I can still get around without my walker. I am 50 years old and am not excited about the thought of both knees being replaced.:)[/QUOTE]

I just had mine done 5 weeks ago today. I will be 50 in a few months weighted in at 312 at time of surgery, have lost 15 lbs so far. So I celebrated being under the 300 mark.
Recovery is tough. I had arthoscopic surgery on my left knee in November so it would be strong enough to handle the strain of having the right TKR. It has done well.
Lucky for me my bone was hard enough to have the replacement joint with the metal mesh which will allow the bone to grow into the posts making for a sturdier knee and less chance of it losening up in 10 years.
I remained fairly mobile up until the surgery. No range of motion issues just swelling and pain when doing alot of walking or weight bearing activities. These things I was told will make a differentce in how you recover.

I did have a point where I wasn't sure this was such a smart thing to have done. But I am over that wand was able to break through the pain last week to finally reach a 93 degree bend after being stuck at 88 for 2 weeks.

Having this site to compare my recovery and get information from others going through it has been priceless.
[QUOTE=mtb1218;4141179]I had TKR of my right knee the end of October. I thought I would be back to work after about 4 weeks but I'm still not. It is very difficult to sit for any length of time and I sit at a desk all day for my job. Anyone have any suggestions? My PT is going well. Flexion is 120 degrees and extension is at 0 so I'm moving along. It is still hard to sleep through the night and sometimes I have insomnia. When I do all my PT, I pay for it with swelling and stiffness. I still consistently use a bike and I'm walking a mile every day. For some reason, I just can't settle myself down to attempt to go back to work. Depression and anxiety have been a slight problem because I thought I would be further along than I am so that doesn't help matters any. My doctor will no longer prescribe any "good" meds so I'm stuck with Tylenol! That barely takes the edge off when I do my PT. :([/QUOTE]
My advice is "get on with it" . . . Now! (:~) That will do more for your rehab and outlook than you can imagine. I had right knee done Jan 11 and left knee done March 1st. The latest one is not going as fast as the first but is close. I am 67 and quite pain tolerant. Using X Tylenol during the day and one vicodin at bedtime. I have been frustrated by lack of sleep until last night. Slept 6 hours! Hooray . . . Finally! Had minor sleep problem like this with knee #1. Take a cooler and ice with you to work or if they have a freezer at work, cold packs. Ice at the desk and use a stack of books or small stool to elevate. You can get a lot od PT at the desk and you will be so happy getting back into it the "handicap" will disappear soon. Do get a temp parking sticker for handicap spot and use it until you suddenly find you are Ok. Sleep and attitude will get you healed faster than any PT. It may never be "18 year old perfect" again but you will be back if you make it happen.
Now at 6 weeks. I have finally reached a flex of 100 degrees. However, the stretch by PT was so bad this week that I could not sleep or do anything the next day. It was so swollen I sat with it iced all day. Extention is only at 4. I have 3 more weeks of PT and hope to make it to 120 degree flex and 0 extention. It is still very painful with use and PT is a killer but I am progressing. Dr gave me darvocet for pain which is pretty much useless. A mood elevator perhaps but nothing for pain. I 've decided to stop trying to sleep at night.I'm going to try breaking my day into thirds to see if I can get enough cat naps to get me through this sleepless period. Very tired of being tired and it effects my mood considerably. I too thought I'd be better than I am at this point. It doesn't help to see those on this list who are contemplating skiing at 8 weeks out.
I've been told time and time again to stop gauging my self to others we all do it at our own pace. I think alot of the anxiety could be reduced it they would just tell us honestly what the recovery is actually like, instead of us having to find others who have /or are going through it for our eduation.
[QUOTE=mzfitz40;4216139]Now at 6 weeks. I have finally reached a flex of 100 degrees. However, the stretch by PT was so bad this week that I could not sleep or do anything the next day. It was so swollen I sat with it iced all day. Extention is only at 4. I have 3 more weeks of PT and hope to make it to 120 degree flex and 0 extention. It is still very painful with use and PT is a killer but I am progressing. Dr gave me darvocet for pain which is pretty much useless. A mood elevator perhaps but nothing for pain. I 've decided to stop trying to sleep at night.I'm going to try breaking my day into thirds to see if I can get enough cat naps to get me through this sleepless period. Very tired of being tired and it effects my mood considerably. I too thought I'd be better than I am at this point. It doesn't help to see those on this list who are contemplating skiing at 8 weeks out.
I've been told time and time again to stop gauging my self to others we all do it at our own pace. I think alot of the anxiety could be reduced it they would just tell us honestly what the recovery is actually like, instead of us having to find others who have /or are going through it for our eduation.[/QUOTE]

Hi Mzfitz - Hang in there - I agree - skiing???
I am at 10 weeks - and at about 115 and almost to 0 (but haven't had a measurement lately - PT like to eyeball it and only measures just before Doc visits) I have no problem doing her exercises, but then I get home from PT and sleep for 2-3 hours. And lots of muscle pain later and the next day. I still have highs and lows, some days I feel practically normal for a while and think that I am over the hump, but then later the pain starts again and I have no stamina - still taking 3-4 norco a day which might have something to do with it. The pain is less than before surgery, and I feel better but still not myself. I am getting a little more sleep at night, but like last night went to bed a midnight (with a norco and half an ambien), woke up at 3 and watched TV for an hour or so then back to sleep until 8:00am, waking up to look at the clock occassionally. My leg gets so stiff at times. So I can relate to how you are feeling. It does get better, but a 10 weeks I would have thought I would be further along...I have been told 3 months is real turning point - I hope so...

A morale booster for me is that there are a couple of ladies at my PT who had surgery months before me and are way behind me in flex and extension - they are really struggling and a real morale booster for me - not nice I know, but I'm a little mean... So as we keep being told, recovery is differtent for all of us. I agree about being tired of being tired and of hurting. If I had not had this website, I would have thought that something was seriously wrong with my recovery, because no one (not even my wonderful Doc who I love) tells you what it's going to be like.
Nap when you can and keep working at it. We will get there! Grumpy
[QUOTE=mzfitz40;4216139]Now at 6 weeks. I have finally reached a flex of 100 degrees. However, the stretch by PT was so bad this week that I could not sleep or do anything the next day. It was so swollen I sat with it iced all day. Extention is only at 4. I have 3 more weeks of PT and hope to make it to 120 degree flex and 0 extention. It is still very painful with use and PT is a killer but I am progressing. Dr gave me darvocet for pain which is pretty much useless. A mood elevator perhaps but nothing for pain. I 've decided to stop trying to sleep at night.I'm going to try breaking my day into thirds to see if I can get enough cat naps to get me through this sleepless period. Very tired of being tired and it effects my mood considerably. I too thought I'd be better than I am at this point. It doesn't help to see those on this list who are contemplating skiing at 8 weeks out.
I've been told time and time again to stop gauging my self to others we all do it at our own pace. I think alot of the anxiety could be reduced it they would just tell us honestly what the recovery is actually like, instead of us having to find others who have /or are going through it for our eduation.[/QUOTE]

I thought much on your last paragraph. And I think if I had been told the "truth" I might not have had the surgery. I truly trust my doctor & his medical team but if they had been brutally honest about what other patients self-report i would have never done this! That's why I'm soooo glad this board exists -- I've been to some others like this -- but this has been "the one" that I have gotten the most out of. I get angry when people tell me to hang in there during a tough time in my life but afterwards .... I discover that's exactly what I did. And believe you will also. Yeah - skiing. I was 110 degrees flex @ 6 wks. also and poof - a couple of weeks later over 120. Someweheres on this thread is someone who talked of "bend envy" and it's true -- I remember not having 90 and being sooooooo envious of the people who had surg. AFTER me that were already over 100 degrees. Silly! Keep on keepin on!
Hi Mzfitz, Just hang in there like we all are. I could echo Grumpy's words almost exactly. The way she describes it is just how it is for me and I am also at the 10 week mark. Still hard to ever get comfortable at night and lots of intermitant pain and stiffness. The Dr. says I am doing well and my flex is good, but I also am tired of being tired and tired of pain. I still take hydromorphon 1 mg. when needed. When I look back to a week ago I always see progress, but day to day I can't see that. You will get better!! It just takes time. Take courage!
Dear Hank:

I think that you are such a Brave Soul for having both knees done at the same time. (I follow the knee posts even though I have had hip replacements, not knee replacements.)

Yes, this is a wonderful site for people having joint replacements. I could not have gotten through my two hip replacements without the encouragement of reading this site. Before I even had a hip replacement the first time I had a lot of information and was ready for the surgery. That wouldn't have happened without this site. (I had just one hip done at a time.)

It sounds to me like your recovery and rehab are coming along just fine. Joint replacements require great patience, and we all are individuals in how long it takes us to get back to what is normal for us. Read the "old" postings too!

I hope you will keep reading the postings and find encouragement and hope in them.


Shirley H.
Thanks Barb and silver swan for your words of incouragement. I to walk with a cane and can not stand in one spot for any length of time. If I go shopping with my wife my knees and back start to hurt so bad I have to to sit out in the car. I'am not much fun for her but she has been great. I always feel like my body does not want to maccept these artifical knees. I've talked to local people before having this procedure and one guy even said that it was a piece of cake, wait till I see him again. My range of motion is good in the mid 120 but I am always in pain with no stamina in my knees and legs. Making things worst is that I also need a right hip replacement sometime in the future. But I well never have that done unless I recover from this and maybe nit then either.
Thanks again for your post to me I appreciate it. I have PT today which seems to be a waste of time. I'am getting tired of feeling so worthless around the house good thing I'am retired. Thanks again for your replies.
Purple,
I had both of my knees done a year apart. Each one reacted slightly differently but I have to say that after 8 weeks, I was willing to say I was glad I did it. By 12 weeks I was back on my feet full-time as a teacher/costume designer (a job that keeps me on my feet all day.) While several people here have had longer recovery times or more difficulties, I found the process really worthwhile. I felt like I regained my life ( hence a 10 shopping day for work this week!)

I will say that though my surgeon said the main work of recovery (time in therapy) would be between 8 and 10 weeks, he also said it would take up to a year to feel totally normal again. And he was absolutely right. There is a difference when muscles and nerves have been cut. It occasionally feels weird. But I wouldn't trade it for the arthritis pain. I have three friends who have gone through the process. One had grumpy moments but she always has. A second was so happy (not that he didn't suffer some during recovery) that he couldn't wait to have the 2nd done. A third, who had a range of health issues, doesn't seem happy at all. It's absolutely varied person by person. Because you walk and walk as a letter carrier, I think you will be a good candidate for a good outcome. Walking has never been a real problem for me since the surgery.

My Two Cents
Linda
[QUOTE=scribytoo;4217693]Purple,
I had both of my knees done a year apart. Each one reacted slightly differently but I have to say that after 8 weeks, I was willing to say I was glad I did it. By 12 weeks I was back on my feet full-time as a teacher/costume designer (a job that keeps me on my feet all day.) While several people here have had longer recovery times or more difficulties, I found the process really worthwhile. I felt like I regained my life ( hence a 10 shopping day for work this week!)

I will say that though my surgeon said the main work of recovery (time in therapy) would be between 8 and 10 weeks, he also said it would take up to a year to feel totally normal again. And he was absolutely right. There is a difference when muscles and nerves have been cut. It occasionally feels weird. But I wouldn't trade it for the arthritis pain. I have three friends who have gone through the process. One had grumpy moments but she always has. A second was so happy (not that he didn't suffer some during recovery) that he couldn't wait to have the 2nd done. A third, who had a range of health issues, doesn't seem happy at all. It's absolutely varied person by person. Because you walk and walk as a letter carrier, I think you will be a good candidate for a good outcome. Walking has never been a real problem for me since the surgery.

My Two Cents
Linda[/QUOTE]
Hi Linda

Thanks for your "two cents" . I really appreciate your thoughts. I am awaiting the Dept. of Labor to approve my surgery. My surgeon tells me he is going to use the Otis Knee. It relatively new. I have to have a special MRI where they take exact measurements of my knee and a 3-D image is made. This allows the surgeon to have exact measurements of my knee prior to surgery. The thought being less time in surgery, a better fitting knee, and less recovery time. Have you or anyone on this site heard of have had this new type of knee? Any thoughts would be appreciated. I'm so glad I found this site. A little nervous, but excited at the same time to finnally be pain free (I hope)

thanks again
marlene
[QUOTE=GaterGal;4218583]Actually, in the last day or two it's like a switch went on and I see real progress. I'm 5 months on the L knee and almost 2 months on the R. Still stiffness, of course, but a little massage with cocoa butter and Vitamin E really helps. I'm takng 1 hydrocodone in the evening and morning with Tylenol 2x daily. I'm winding down on the drugs. Not ready to drive yet. Got in the spa yesterday and will be doing that more often. And I got a pedal, thanks to this forum, and do 20 min. in the evening watching TV. I think I' over the first major hump! Lesson to all it gets better! G, how about you?[/QUOTE]

At 10 1/2 weeks on rt knee, it's all kind of based on when I have PT. Morning of PT it's usually pretty good, the exercise feels good and is doable - but later - oh boy- the aching kicks in. Next day is bad, then I have a good day and then back to PT and it starts over again.
I'm taking about 3 hydrocodone a day, but try to space them out so I can drive the 10 minutes to my mom's nursing home, see her, then drive back, take a pill. The rest of the time, I let my husband drive me. She is at the stage in Alzheimer's where each day it is questionable whether she will know me or not. Seeing what the disease has done to her makes a TKR seem pretty trivial.

Now that the weather is getting nice, I try to warm up the spa or get in the tub - usually a couple of times a day. I am getting tired of being tired or hurting, but the ROM is improving and I can do all sorts of things that I haven't done in years. Yesterday, I got in a lounge chair we have that I hadn't been able to get up from for at least 3 years. So things are improving! I keep hearing that 3 months post op is a major time for improvement. Hope so...

Gater - are you in FL too? Haven't heard from Matter or JerseyBoy lately - Jersey ought to be getting home pretty soon -

Happy Easter. Grumpy
[QUOTE=Grumpyathome;4218606]At 10 1/2 weeks on rt knee, it's all kind of based on when I have PT. Morning of PT it's usually pretty good, the exercise feels good and is doable - but later - oh boy- the aching kicks in. Next day is bad, then I have a good day and then back to PT and it starts over again.
I'm taking about 3 hydrocodone a day, but try to space them out so I can drive the 10 minutes to my mom's nursing home, see her, then drive back, take a pill. The rest of the time, I let my husband drive me. She is at the stage in Alzheimer's where each day it is questionable whether she will know me or not. Seeing what the disease has done to her makes a TKR seem pretty trivial.

Now that the weather is getting nice, I try to warm up the spa or get in the tub - usually a couple of times a day. I am getting tired of being tired or hurting, but the ROM is improving and I can do all sorts of things that I haven't done in years. Yesterday, I got in a lounge chair we have that I hadn't been able to get up from for at least 3 years. So things are improving! I keep hearing that 3 months post op is a major time for improvement. Hope so...

Gater - are you in FL too? Haven't heard from Matter or JerseyBoy lately - Jersey ought to be getting home pretty soon -

Happy Easter. Grumpy[/QUOTE]

Can't believe you are 10 1/2 weeks already.. probably seems longer to you though.
Glad to hear you are doing so well..
It's amazing how each month you see things getting better and your ability to do things that you weren't able to do before surgery.
Went back to therapy.. have it twice a week at 9:30. New therapist.. much better than first. She also suggested when sitting in a chair put your leg behind you for a while several times a day.. it will really help your ROM. Mine is at 118 but she said she would like to see a little more and that it shouldn't be problem so I've been doing that at work and the new exercises she gave me to work on the quads and my balance. Otherwise.. I have no complaints at all.

Anxious to hear from Jersey too.. wonder how it all went.

Are both you and Gater in Florida... all my kids live in Navarre up in the panhandle.. long way away from California..:(


Hope everyone is having a great Easter... will check back later..
Hi to all my good tkr friends and new thr friends,:wave:
All is well. It is Monday evening and the hip surgery is over. It went very well. The anethesioligist suggested a spinal for this one and I said I was OK with that. I was awake the whole time, had a great recovery room experience and all went well in the hospital.. I got home on Friday late afternoon, was really tired Sat. Went for a walk outside Sat. in our 70 degree weather(very strange for Illinois) before Easter dinner. :cool: The family brought in food for Easter at our house with two daughters and 5 grandkids under 8 doing most of the work. It was a wonderful day. Today I started with the nurse from a home care agency(blood draws etc. due to warfarin meds) and will have pt tomorrow with a person from the home care agency. All in all it has been a great experence. I am stiff and sore, tired and lethargic, but I am glad it is all over with.:p
Thanks for all your good wishes. It is because of the great info on these boards that I felt confident enough to face all of this head on. :angel:
[QUOTE=Jeanob;4219605]Hi to all my good tkr friends and new thr friends,:wave:
All is well. It is Monday evening and the hip surgery is over. It went very well. The anethesioligist suggested a spinal for this one and I said I was OK with that. I was awake the whole time, had a great recovery room experience and all went well in the hospital.. I got home on Friday late afternoon, was really tired Sat. Went for a walk outside Sat. in our 70 degree weather(very strange for Illinois) before Easter dinner. :cool: The family brought in food for Easter at our house with two daughters and 5 grandkids under 8 doing most of the work. It was a wonderful day. Today I started with the nurse from a home care agency(blood draws etc. due to warfarin meds) and will have pt tomorrow with a person from the home care agency. All in all it has been a great experence. I am stiff and sore, tired and lethargic, but I am glad it is all over with.:p
Thanks for all your good wishes. It is because of the great info on these boards that I felt confident enough to face all of this head on. :angel:[/QUOTE]

I didn't know you were having THR! Sounds like it is a tad easier than the knees? Glad it went well for you!
[QUOTE=Grumpyathome;4218606].........Now that the weather is getting nice, I try to warm up the spa or get in the tub - usually a couple of times a day. I am getting tired of being tired or hurting, but the ROM is improving and I can do all sorts of things that I haven't done in years. Yesterday, I got in a lounge chair we have that I hadn't been able to get up from for at least 3 years. So things are improving! I keep hearing that 3 months post op is a major time for improvement. Hope so...
Grumpy[/QUOTE]

GAH.....you have absolutely no idea how much I enjoy your posts and how much I learn from them....I am at 12weeks and am finally beginning to feel like a human being again. I am still taking vicadons but less of them...still having some trouble with the knee swelling which in turn causes more pain. I am close to being dishcharged from PT. I have exercises that I do at home, and someone donated a schwin airdyne bike for me to use so I do ~10 min a day (most days) and I am using the warm water therapy pool 3 or 4 times a week. It all helps. [U]Now a new thing has cropped up. I have developed a scaly patch on my knee.. it is just below the knee cap and to the right side of the scar. [/U]Have you heard anyone else having this. I absolutely do not want to call the dr's office again unless I absolutely have no choice. I'm sure they think I am paranoid as it is LOL.

Hope everyone is doing ok
[QUOTE=milliejs;4219744]GAH.....you have absolutely no idea how much I enjoy your posts and how much I learn from them....I am at 12weeks and am finally beginning to feel like a human being again. I am still taking vicadons but less of them...still having some trouble with the knee swelling which in turn causes more pain. I am close to being dishcharged from PT. I have exercises that I do at home, and someone donated a schwin airdyne bike for me to use so I do ~10 min a day (most days) and I am using the warm water therapy pool 3 or 4 times a week. It all helps. [U]Now a new thing has cropped up. I have developed a scaly patch on my knee.. it is just below the knee cap and to the right side of the scar. [/U]Have you heard anyone else having this. I absolutely do not want to call the dr's office again unless I absolutely have no choice. I'm sure they think I am paranoid as it is LOL.

Hope everyone is doing ok[/QUOTE]

Hi - sounds like we are at similiar places in recovery, I almost feel normal at times and then I twist funny and then I remember - except for the scaly patch. Haven't heard of that before... Is it itchy? Are you putting cream or vitamin E on your scar and knee? That might help... Could be from the chlorine in the pool - I know that our YMCA therapy pool uses a lot of chlorine which can be very drying. If it continues, I'd ask the Doc - paranoid or not. You might ask your PT - I know that my PT sees a lot and is very knowledgeable about wound care.

Today I had PT and so far, and it 12:30 AM, the pain and ache is pretty low (sometimes the pain meds don't take care of it but today they have). I have taken 3 norcos today ( which is one less than I can) and tomorrow if it's feeling good, I will try cutting them in half. But I take it one day at a time and try and do a little more each day. I see my Doc during PT on Thursday so I am hoping that my extension and Flex will have improved.

The swelling has never been too much of a problem - my surgical knee is a little more swollen than the other, but not as bad as before surgery. I do ice at least once a day if not more with my gel wrap.

Good luck with the scaly patch - let me know what you find out. Grumpy
[QUOTE=Grumpyathome;4219768]Hi - sounds like we are at similiar places in recovery, I almost feel normal at times and then I twist funny and then I remember - except for the scaly patch. Haven't heard of that before... Is it itchy? Are you putting cream or vitamin E on your scar and knee? That might help... Could be from the chlorine in the pool - I know that our YMCA therapy pool uses a lot of chlorine which can be very drying. If it continues, I'd ask the Doc - paranoid or not. You might ask your PT - I know that my PT sees a lot and is very knowledgeable about wound care.

Today I had PT and so far, and it 12:30 AM, the pain and ache is pretty low (sometimes the pain meds don't take care of it but today they have). I have taken 3 norcos today ( which is one less than I can) and tomorrow if it's feeling good, I will try cutting them in half. But I take it one day at a time and try and do a little more each day. I see my Doc during PT on Thursday so I am hoping that my extension and Flex will have improved.

The swelling has never been too much of a problem - my surgical knee is a little more swollen than the other, but not as bad as before surgery. I do ice at least once a day if not more with my gel wrap.

Good luck with the scaly patch - let me know what you find out. Grumpy[/QUOTE]


Went to the warm water therapy pool this afternoon and when I was leaving I saw my dry land physical therapist and asked him to look at my knee. He thought maybe the water alsol. He recommended Gold Bond lotion and said if it gets any bigger after using the lotion to go see my family doc. He didn't think the surgeon would really pay much attention to it. So that is my plan for now. Grumpy, when did u have your surgery. I know you said but I don't remember. Actually, I don't remember much about the first two months LOL. And I have to ask...what are norco's?????
BearSher,

I feel bad I haven't posted for a while. My surgery was 12/1/09 and I have recovered so well, I don't have many problems to post. I have not had pain meds in weeks. I only used them when I did my daily exercise after the 2nd month. I played 18 holes of golf last week, the first time in 8 years. Nine was my limit.

I wish now I had had both of mine done at the same time. But, I have had some surgery failures, and my husband was afraid of complications if I did both at the same time. I now have to do it again. I'll probably have the other knee done in a few months.

I wish you all the best and will have you in my thoughts.
Good Morning Corgi and jmlm: Thank you both for your comments and encouragement. At this time, it really means a whole bunch!! This week is full of appointments. I'm looking forward to having all this behind me. Will let you know how it goes...when I can. :wave:
today is 6 months to the day, knee is working fine, pain goes with activities, first time I mowed the lawn this year, it had a good workout 6000 sq ft of lawn, dont know how much I walked but it was alot, 57 years old

the front and outside of left knee still have some numbness, the scare is sensitive, biggest problem I still have is my back from the surgery, the day after my ribs were sticking out, the surgery messed with my back alignment, the pain killers I use are for that, when it gets too bad the hips and legs hurt alot

when I go to the chiropractor and he puts me back in alignment I am great until it happens again
:wave: Hi there BearSher! Thank you for your kind words. I,too, came across this site from Google & I just can not say it enought: it has been my lifesaver! I can't begin to name the folks that have inspired me & made me feel as though they were writing to me -- Grumpy @ Home for sure, beerhunter, msfitz, I should have scrolled back through & written names down ~ Sorry for those I didn't name as you all have made this journey bearable. No matter what time of the day or how I'm feeling -- this is where I go. My family & friends have been so kind & supportive but after the 2nd month they were ready to move on. Now when I meet people who are post op -- not necessary knees or hips -- I am so more sympathetic & understanding. Healing takes time and will not be rushed! Good luck -- next week right? We'll be thinking of you & look forward to hearing how it goes!

Kelly in Alaska




[QUOTE=BearSher;4222883]Hello Everyone! :wave: I came across this site by chance on Google and am so happy I did! I just spent the last SEVERAL hours reading all the messages. I have much to learn, and some notes are inspiring and some are a bit frightening. I am scheduled for double knee replacement on April 20th. I had hoped to put off this surgery until the fall, but one of my bad knees just gave out on me crossing the street and have been in pain for the last two weeks.:eek: Now I just want to get things started and hope to get back to living a "life" again someday. Alaskelly, your letter was so inspiring for me and just wanted to thank you for your positive attitude!! :angel: Anyone that I tell that I'm having a double knee replacement is HORRIFIED! Had me thinking I was making the wrong decision, but after talking with my regular physician and the Rehabilitation Director, I do feel a bit better about it. Wish me luck and I'll continue watching for all of the wonderful achievements.[/QUOTE]
Hi Alaskelly and other bionic buddies- wow I am so flattered that you have gained something from my posts - because for me this is therapy. It is 4:57 AM and I've been awake since around 3:00. Tried to treat this like a normal day used to be, plus riding on the recumbent bike and doing the leg press - so, I guess I did too much. Leg is swollen and achy. Tried a bath, reading, now decided to chat with you all. I'd been sleeping pretty well until the last few nights, (allergy season in FL) and doing too much.
It's been 3 months, but I have to remember that it's healing from the inside out. (my tibia aches). My husband has decided that I'm cured, but then when I moan or groan he gets upset with me for doing too much - but he want business as usual, just without me showing any pain. I do agree that most people feel that by month 2, you should be done and they are over it. It's a catch 22. Still taking tylenol and leaving the Norco alone - I was sorely tempted tonight about an hour ago, but took the tylenol instead. Also took half an ambien at bedtime, but apparently it only worked for half the night.

Other than this, I am feeling great, Still don't think my extension and flex is all it could be, but I'm working on it. Like Dinojen, I can be a slacker.... but I'm trying to get on track. don't want to go backward.

BearSher - there are days that I wish that I had had both legs done at the same time - but my left leg was in a whole lot better shape, so I will have to wait a while and the go through this in a couple of years. The recovery will be tougher and a little different than us singles, but it will be done! I could use my non-surgical leg to help me, but if legs are equally bad, you wouldn't have that advantage anyway. So get your home and caregivers ready, rest, exercise, eat what you can, drink lots of water, and take your meds. When you need to go off ( I was on them for 3 months -starting at 12 percocets a day eventually tapering down to none - but will use them ocassionally on really bad days) Good luck, and you can console me in a couple of years when I am going through this again. Grumpyathome
Grumpy, I have just made it to my 8th week and have been suprised how much less pain I have except when trying to bend it further. I take a few tylenol at night to sleep except for days I have PT and then its a swollen hot knee from hell. Ice and drugs help me to sleep but like you it takes awhile for it to settle down. It was really bad Monday when they added more weight, and moved the incumbent bike up another notch all after a good stretching. It didn't feel bad at the time and I love a good work out BUT It took me two days to recover from Mondays therapy and I cancelled Wednesday's appointment even though I continued my exercises at home.

I am curious as to where your tendon or ligament is rubbing? The ligament in the back of my knee is very tight and I have not gotten to 0 extention. My flexation is only at 100 and I can't seem to get any further without stretching and it then returns to 100. The skin over the center of my scar doesn't seem to glide over the knee as it bends. Its so very tight and I use cocoa butter several times aday. My PT tells me he isn't worried that I won't reach my goal and that it is only the pain that is keeping me from getting there now. So as the next few weeks go by I will be anxious to see if he is right. I will be released from both the Dr's care and PT next friday.

My brother has decided its time for him to have his knee done. I've tried to fill him in prepare him a little for what is to come. He's not afraid of the pain and is looking forward to being able to walk again. I am just beginning to see the light through the tunnel and it is good. I wish you well!
[QUOTE=beerhunters;4227447]I got an infraction for posting a web site you can go to to get ice packs for your knee, so do not post web site addresses

I used them and they were a huge help, your knee is so hot, they are about envelope size #10, I put one on top and one on bottom of knee, in about an hour maybe less the top ice pack melts, sometimes now after 6 months I still have a hot knee, it comes and goes

I get alot of popping when I put pressure on the joint like going up the stairs, does anyone at 6 months or so, get the popping?[/QUOTE]

Hi there, yes I get sort of a clunk click especially when just starting to walk, had knee replacement Nov 09 also noticed lots of swelling and tightness lately but have been trying to carry on as normal eg walking cycling and poss not resting enough, feels really strange at times and others can also hear it at times, also feels like a there is a lot of plastic bags, only way I can describe it making a horrible scrunching noise esp when cycling, am I alone in this,but all in all nowhere near the pain I experienced before the op but am looking toward the time when I can just do things normally without thinking about it or feeling the consequences when I dont. good luck all and best wishes from England.
I am at 18 weeks tkr of the left knee and working in the trades full time. I have been back to work for 6 weeks and I AM STILL GETTING A LOT OF SWELLING. is this normal for someone who is on their feet for 12 hours a day. I still have pain too. does any else feel this way?
[QUOTE=davebeemster;4242934]I am at 18 weeks tkr of the left knee and working in the trades full time. I have been back to work for 6 weeks and I AM STILL GETTING A LOT OF SWELLING. is this normal for someone who is on their feet for 12 hours a day. I still have pain too. does any else feel this way?[/QUOTE]

I'm 6 months Post-op and still have swelling. There's fluid on the right side that goes away with the ice machine they sent me home with. I fall asleep with it on every night. I also have popping from time to time but only have pain when I over-do. I just started injections in my left knee hoping to stave off TKR on that one a little while longer. I really don't want to go through this again. I also started acupuncture. My Ortho gave me the name of a licensed one for a wrist problem as well as other pains I'm having. The wrist needs surgery also, but will require 3 months in a cast and I'm not doing that in the hot Texas Summer.

Anyone had any success with acupuncture?

Linda
[QUOTE=davebeemster;4242934]I am at 18 weeks tkr of the left knee and working in the trades full time. I have been back to work for 6 weeks and I AM STILL GETTING A LOT OF SWELLING. is this normal for someone who is on their feet for 12 hours a day. I still have pain too. does any else feel this way?[/QUOTE]

I am at 3 months and can't imagine working 4 hours let alone 12. I find I have swelling and pain with a long day of house cleaning. Sometimes, heat works better for me then ice. But most nights its still ice. I think you need to tell the Dr its too much. He can restrict your hours to 8 and see if its any better to handle.
I am at 16 weeks. I still have swelling after being on feet for any period of time. No pain, however. Will be seeing the Doctor tomorrow and will inquire about the swelling. It is somewhat disconcerting, since this is why I decided on the surgery in the first place. The lack of pain makes it worthwhile. That is a long time to be on your feet but, you have to do what you have to do.
[QUOTE=milliejs;4243784]I am just sitting here reading thru the last few posts and feeling kinda down. I am almost 17 weeks out and my knee still hurts. I had some vicadins left over and am still using them at least once a day, plus either darvocet or ibuprofins also. I am so tired of my knee hurting. I have good ROM and straightening. I can walk pretty good, can go up and down steps (foot over foot). I am driving. But, nevertheless, it still HURTS. I am still icing, alternating with heat. I've had 5 chiropracter appts where she has been manipulating the knee cap area. And still...it is tight. We are supposed to be driving to Las Vegas next week for our daughter's wedding and I am in total dread. Ok, I guess I am thru complaining and whining...at least for tongiht. I appreiate you'all listening.[/QUOTE]

I just had my 4 month check up - got a great report from my Doc - she was very happy with my flex, extension and how I'm walking. But as I complained about pain to her (as I sit here and type, I have on an ice gel wrap and have just taken 2 arthritis tylenol) she kept reminding me that it takes a year to heal. I complained about swelling and my knee still feeling hot and she again said that it takes a year to heal. So I guess it takes a year to heal.... You just feel that after 4 months you should be back to normal. But then I have to remember that I haven't been normal for years.

For those of you back to full time work, I don't know how you do it. I can do a lot more than I used to, but no way could I stay on my feet for 12 hours. More power to you.

Grumpy
[QUOTE=corgi02;4226896]Heh BearSher,
This is the best site for making friends who know what you are talking about, and also to compare what you are feeling so that you don't feel you are alone or going crazy. NO ONE can really know what this is like unless they have been there and done that, so to speak. The posts about what you should have ready for when you get home, etc are excellent. I wish that they would have been written when I had my surgery. They are right on. The best advice I can give you is measure your progress by the week, not by the day or you will feel you haven't progressed at all. When you start stacking up the weeks and looking back, you will be so happy and surprised.
Not kidding, this is hard tough work to get down this road, but it will be so worth it. Good luck to you. We will be thinking of you, let us know how you are.[/QUOTE]

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Hi All: :wave:

Just an update to tell you that I had a very successful Bi-lateral surgery April 20th and came home on the 13th after staying at a WONDERFUL rehabilitation home for my 20 (Medicare) days. I've been very fortunate not to have a lot of pain and try not to take any pain killers, except for before PT. The most troubling problem...even more than the knees...was constipation from the Norco!! :eek: Horrible experience!! If anyone is contemplating the surgery, all I can say is the "ANTICIPATION" is worse than the actual surgery. I couldn't imagine being away from home for all that time, but the time goes quickly and I think that is the major rehab time! They really kept me busy with 2 PT and 1 OT, plus an hour each leg on the CPM machine. There were several ladies that didn't want to stay and went home against the PT's wishes. I hope they don't regret it down the road. I now have home health for a couple of weeks and then have to look into rehabilitation places close to home.
Still looking at all the new posts and will keep in touch. Thanks for all your well wishes pre-op!!
BearSher
i am 6 days post surgical for a Total Knee Replacement . I am having HELL so many problems. Firstly I have had lowgrade fevers from the day after surgery until now. Behind my knee the pain is excruitiating and left the hospital on the 16th of May. Surgery was on the 13th of May. Today is the 19th of May and I have the following things to report. Please review and see if anyone experienced any of thease things. Any Suggestions and comments welcomed.

1. lowgrade fevers since surgery
2. yeast infection due to iv antibiotics in the hosp
3. need to not only take coumadin but also a blood thinner shot.
4. urine has some blood in it.....reddish brown urine probably from the blood thinners
5. severe pain behind knee... extension is -8
6. not so much pain on kneecap
7. can flex upon leaving the hosp at 90% with assistance.
8. Been able to walk well with walker, sit, stand, with minimal pain
9. lotz of swelling to surgical site.
10. can lift leg on bed without assistance with some pain.
11. Can only take tylenol 3 i throw up from everything else
12. appetite is bad
13. tired all the time
14. constipated

Just to mention a few things.....

Please help
Dear Nervous,

Unfortunalty, what you are experienceing is par for the course. I am only 3 months oout from the surgery so I can remember all the pain yet. You probably have the blood in the urine from the catheter, the infection could also be a result of the same. Drink plenty of water. Cranberry juice will help.

The loss of appettite is common as is the constipation. Try enema's of warm water to keep even a little moving and in a few days take a few correctol. I found I had to do this for several weeks just to be able to go. I never waited more than 4 days. If I didn't go I took one correctol. Worked like a charm without a lot of stomach pain. Cause lets face pain is something you don't need more of at this point.

You should be on more than tylenol. It is not enough for the pain especially after PT or at night. Talk to your Dr to get something stronger. There are a lot of options. If you are sticking with the 3 tylenol every 4-6 hrs add 2Ibuprophen half way through and keep them staggered. Thats what my Dr prescribed and it helped after I came off the heavy meds. ANd remember to always ICE , ICE , ICE. I would got to bed with my ice packs and leave them on until the middle of the night and then switch them out for a fresh set.
I also was so exhausted I started to sleep 3-4 hour a few times aday instead of trying to sleep 8 hours. It hurt less to lay a shorter period of time and I slept better because the pain meds lasted through this shorter stretch.

I had more pain in the back of my knee then the front. You will learn that is because they cut nerves and the numbness on the outer side of the knee will take a long time to get better. As nerves mend you'll experience new twinges of pain. As the swelling goes down the knee may feel less steady. It takes time to build the muscles back up. The thigh muscle which was split takes a long time to heal and strengthen back up. The swelling is going to be there for a long time.

I also took Coumadin and Lovenox shots. But only for about 2 weeks total. I went to a rehab facility for 7 days after the surgery. I insisted on this because my insurance covered it and I had no one to care for me once at home. I too could pretty much get around like you but even after a week of daily PT I was only at abaout 80 degree bend and I think 18 degree extention.
After 2 months(3x a week) of PT I managed between 100-105 degree bend and between 4-5 degree flex. I only recently began going up and down the stairs foot over foot instead on on foot at a time. This all takes time and they don't prepare you for all the pain and hard work ahead of you. But hang in there it does get easier and you will do better. Go ahead and cry when you need to and don't be embarassed if its in front of anyone. This is probably one of the hardest things you'll ever do. Its frustrating because its it takes so long to see progress and when you do it will be in small incriments. Celebrate them!. And NO ONE who hasn't gone through this will come close to understanding what you're going through and most of us loose our supporters after a few weeks. Thats whats so great about this site, We're here for each other!

Hope this helps!
Melissa
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[QUOTE=nervous12345;4249257]i am 6 days post surgical for a Total Knee Replacement . I am having HELL so many problems. Firstly I have had lowgrade fevers from the day after surgery until now. Behind my knee the pain is excruitiating and left the hospital on the 16th of May. Surgery was on the 13th of May. Today is the 19th of May and I have the following things to report. Please review and see if anyone experienced any of thease things. Any Suggestions and comments welcomed.

1. lowgrade fevers since surgery
2. yeast infection due to iv antibiotics in the hosp
3. need to not only take coumadin but also a blood thinner shot.
4. urine has some blood in it.....reddish brown urine probably from the blood thinners
5. severe pain behind knee... extension is -8
6. not so much pain on kneecap
7. can flex upon leaving the hosp at 90% with assistance.
8. Been able to walk well with walker, sit, stand, with minimal pain
9. lotz of swelling to surgical site.
10. can lift leg on bed without assistance with some pain.
11. Can only take tylenol 3 i throw up from everything else
12. appetite is bad
13. tired all the time
14. constipated

Just to mention a few things.....

Please help[/QUOTE]

Hello, and welcome to this great site. You will find many helpful people here.

First let me say, 6 days post TKR is pretty soon to be expecting great things. This is a long process with a lot of hard work. I'm 6 months PO and still have swelling and fluid from time to time.

1. Low grade fever: As long as it's low grade it will probably go away soon. The Tylenol should help. My Ortho prescribed antibiotics which you will probably have to take for every procedure, even teeth cleaning, for years to come.
2. Yeast infection. This message board probably has a topic to help you with that.
3. Blood thinner. We probably all had to do the coumadine shots. It's to keep you from forming clots which could be more serious than the surgery.
4. Blood in urine. That doesn't sound like it's knee related. Drink plenty of water to flush out the kidneys. Check the message board.
5. The pain behind the knee will go away soon. I turned my ice pack around to the back of the knee from time to time. My worst pain was from the quad area and back. You will have to push through the pain to get extension. I warmed my knee with a heating pad before PT. That made the exercise easier.
6. No appetite: I was able to lose 20 lbs in my post op doing the PT. Your appetite will come back. Trust me on this one. I also used that time to try to eat healthier. The TKR not only saved my knee, but gave me a new beginning to a healthier lifestyle. I have cut down on all my BP medicine, bad Cholesterol is down. better HDL.
7. Tired all the time. Your body has gone through a traumatic ordeal. It may be weeks before you feel normal. I still have periods of fatigue. Keep in mind most on this board will tell you their Ortho's told them it was normal to take a year to completely recover from this surgery.
8. Constipation. It's from the pain meds. Try a stool softener temporarily until you can stop the pain meds.

All and all, you sound like you're doing pretty good for 6 days PO. Keep us informed as to your progress and know that we have all been through the same experience and will help any way we can.

Have you expressed these problems to your Ortho? At six days the stitches are still in so you should see him/her pretty soon.

Keep positive. It will be over soon.

Linda
That was a great post and so true. It makes me feel better I am not just making this up and feeling sorry for myself. I am used to being active and moving around quickly and now here I am after six months still complaining.
I had a difficult time with appetite -- had none and if food wasn't placed in front of me I probably would not eat. That was something new for me. I lost several pounds and to the point that it was noticed and I looked haggard. No one in my entire life had told me I looked too thin, I'm usually fighting the weight as I gain easily and am not tall. Not a large eater, but love sweets at night. Well, the appetite finally came back and I am now where I shoud be and hope not to gain. Had my daughters not come into town and did a lot of cooking and freezing in small containers for me I probably would not have eaten at all. While they were here they just put food in front of me and said - EAT. I did. Thank goodness for daughters.
I'm still not comfortable and stairs are difficult going down on the good leg. Luckily I have a ranch home with the washer and dryer upstairs so I need to go to the basement just to use the treadmill which I try to do at least once a day if only for a half mile. I go to the gym to use the incumbent bike almost every day and ride for a half hour. Bending the knee is pure torture for me, but I try to do it. I would like to have more out patient therapy, but one session can be almost $200. and I'm not prepared for that. I can do the exercises on my own other than the bending very well. I can get to 120 on my own with difficulty and 130 with the PT doing it. He claims that is as far as I will ever go.
I did as someone suggested and Googled Bogs looking for a live chat. So far no response and I don't think there is such a thing available any longer. Whoever suggested this - thank you for thinking of it. I never use Bogs so would not have thought of it. Should I ever come acrosss anything similar I will try to post what info they will allow on here.
Thank you all for any info you have and pass on.
I do have one odd thing. In the past I have been a BIG reader of books. I'm finding that I cannot concentrate long enough to read a book. I have read only one all of this time and that was because my nephew brought it to me while I was in rehab and wanted a report. I did read that and that has been it. I can glance through a magazine and do crossword puzzles, but cannot get back what used to be one of my favorite past times. I have a friend who is also a big reader and said after her hip surgery replacement she couldn't read for a year. I have no clue why that is. I'm going to try taking a book with me while I'm on the bike as that is so boring since I'm not interested in watching the TVs or listening to music.
I'm a Newby too, but hope I can help, or sympathize, with you with a few of the problems you are having. I had bi-lateral surgery on April 20th. First of all....6 days? I hope you are somewhere with continuing care. I went to a rehabilitation home and most of these problems were addressed. I understand the lowgrade temperatures are very common and nothing to worry about. I was given some tylenol when my temperature got to 101. They said the temperatures can last about 10 days, but I still had a lowgrade (99) 20 days after. Re the yeast infection...were you catherized (spelling??)? That can cause an infection which should be watched by your doctor. 90 degrees after 6 days?? I'd say that's really good! The rehab home where I stayed, some of the women couldn't even get that after a couple of weeks. (Patience!!) Swelling....again, very understandable! Realize what our bodies went through. Liifting your leg without help at 6 days...I would say that's great!! I think after 6 days, I had to have help lifting my legs to get back in bed. I'm taking Norco and I know the feeling of nausea. I was very nauseated (again, spelling?) one of the days in rehab and just slept for the whole day. They gave me ... can't think of the name ... that white peppermint medicine that lines your stomach and that really helped me. I only took it twice, but it really helped put me back in order. CONSTIPATION!!! Been there!!!! I think that was the worst pain, discomfort that I had through this whole thing!! They were giving me stool softners at the hospital. When I left there after 4 days and went to rehab, they left that off my medication list. I found out the hard way!! I would ask your doctor about perscribing that for you. I'm taking Colace for now...at least until I'm off my pain medicine. That's what causes the constipation from what I'm told. I'm also told the pain medicine is what causes loss of appetite. I'm just now able to actually think of food without getting an upset stomach! Tired? I think that's understandable also. Our bodies have been through a lot of trauma. Plus, if you're like me, it's not easy sleeping at night. I try to take cat naps when I can. I hope this helped a little... I know there are a lot of great people on this site and hope they'll add their comments. All I can say is have patience and take one day at a time. Best Regards, BearSher
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Thanks Melissa,

Your comments hit home.So much of what you have experienced , I now am experiencing. I Just pray every day for itto get better. I am working hard, but sometimes it feels that I am not gaining much ground. I cry at amoments notice for no reason...I am an emotional wreck.

I was also very active,and now feeling like an invalid i just have a hard time accepting it. I try and do my PT at home 2 x's a day but the pain is pretty messed up. I am trying to cut down on the tylenol 3 to help with the constipation. I am eating pitted prunes. The 4th dy without using the bathroom (BM) I drank a bottle of citrate of magnesia. It seemed like it cleared some out, but who knows. Since then I have used suppositories ( which dont work). Tonite I will take a correctol and see if that will help.

I value your supportand look forward to your next post.

thanks,
Nervous:wave:
nervous,

I'll be PO 7 months on the 1st of June. I played 24 holes of golf on Friday, cleaned my closet (it's big) Saturday, boxed up 60 pairs of pants for charity and played nine holes Sunday. I'm down 2 sizes and almost had "pants on the floor" several times so cleaning my closet was dire. I remember the excruciating pain that I went through the first month. But little by little the hurting stopped. There was an old song I loved way back when called "One Day at a Time". I found myself humming that tune a whole lot in the first few months. Finally one day I woke up, and no pain. I still ice when I overdo, but mostly I just feel so glad I had the surgery, my ongoing comment to friends and family is, "why did I wait so long?

Keep up the good work. You will get better everyday. Remember, we are all here to help and support you.

Linda
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Thanks Melissa,

Your comments hit home.So much of what you have experienced , I now am experiencing. I Just pray every day for itto get better. I am working hard, but sometimes it feels that I am not gaining much ground. I cry at amoments notice for no reason...I am an emotional wreck.

I was also very active,and now feeling like an invalid i just have a hard time accepting it. I try and do my PT at home 2 x's a day but the pain is pretty messed up. I am trying to cut down on the tylenol 3 to help with the constipation. I am eating pitted prunes. The 4th dy without using the bathroom (BM) I drank a bottle of citrate of magnesia. It seemed like it cleared some out, but who knows. Since then I have used suppositories ( which dont work). Tonite I will take a correctol and see if that will help.

I value your supportand look forward to your next post.

thanks,
Nervous:wave:[/QUOTE]

Oh Melissa I sympathize! I remember crying all the time too. This will pass. I used Dulcolax Suppositories along with drinkiing plum juice with ground flax seed. I did tha twice a day and it worked like a charm.
Hi everyone, this site has been extremely helpful. Like many, I can relate to many stories on here. I had a TKR July 2009. Long painful recovery to date. I am due to go back to hospital in 2 days time for what they call, investigate and removal of a mass.
I have been told by a friends doctor that it is most likely scar tissue. I am hoping this is the case and once removed, things will improve dramatically.
My story is long and boring, so all I really want to know is, has anyone encountered scar tissue and had to have it removed. If so, was this successful?
Many thanks.





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