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In this post I will be 100% honest and accurate on my encounter, suspicions, symptoms, and irrational thoughts.

[B]Sexual encounter:[/B]
23 Days ago I enaged in some sexual acts with a transsexual. From what I understand that's a high risk group. Those sexual acts include the following:

1) Me being fingered for a total of possibly 25 minutes.
[I]Suspicion: She(he) might have intentionally dipped their precum into my anus, and their actual cum after they came. I'm not sure since I had my back turned but at times I felt a lot of wetness that I doubt could've been due to just spit. I also suspect a cut on her finger, or needle sized hole(like a diabetetic test hole or finger stick. [B]I have no eveidence for the cuts or fingerstick on her finger, it is a product of my fear possibly, and my attempt to make sense of the symptoms I have. See below for symptoms.[/B][/I]

2) Insertive anal sex WITH a condom. I entered her(him) with a condom.
[I]Suspicion: We were constantly removing condoms, and putting others on. But even though I didn't see any condom failure, I think maybe it did at one point due to my symptoms at 2 weeks. [B]My mind maybe making me think things. Mind fabricates fear.[/B]I wonder about what if condom had a needle sized hole in it. She kept fidgeting with the tip of the condom at times, and refused to use lots of lube. She said she was just checking the condom peri odically.[/I]

3) Insertive, unprotected oral sex. I inserted my penis in her(his) mouth, ejaculated outside the mouth, but they quickly lapped on and cleaned it after I ejaculated. I'am uncircumsized.
[I]Suspicion: HIV Counselor asked me if I had insertive oral sex with her, as part of his questionaire. He also asked if I ejaculated. I traditionally believe oral poses no risk for the insertive partner, but being asked those questions have made me feel really uneasy. [B]A product of my possible paranoia. [/B][/I]

4) Heavy kissing.
[B]Paranoid thought: Maybe I'm that rare case that catches it form kissing.[/B]

I spoke to people on the net after this exposure and was told I don't need PEP for this exposure.

[B]Symptoms:[/B]
All was well after this encounter though I did see a bruise-like spot on my belt line, hours after. It last 3 weeks, very odd.

At exactly 14 days(2 weeks) after exposure I had a mouth sore, which lasted about 4 days maybe 5. That same day, I felt fatigue that is on and off until today(23 days past exposure). [I]Suspicion: I first dismissed the fatigue and weakness as just me being tired, cause I had been very active that week and had been getting maybe 6 hours of sleep a night. But also think now it might have been ARS.[/I]

At day 15 or 16 I noticed a rash on my chest, and upper abdominal(where stomach meets the chest). It looked like small red circles. IF they were at all raised they were VERY slighty raised. When I noticed the rash it itched VERY, and I mean VERY lightly. [I]Suspicion: I know that the ARS rash is not itchy, so maybe I imagined it being itchy to feel less fearful.[/I] What is worse, I read some sites that said the ARS rash is "slighty itchy." This has to be by far the scariest symptom, as I hardly ever get rashes and when I do it isn't like this. That and the fact it happened at week 2, which is on par with ARS symptoms.

On days 17 and 18 I had chills, and nightsweats. On day 18 I had a bad headache, and I mean bad. And felt hot throughout my body. But no fever. [I]Suspicion: I brushed the headache off as due to the stress, as by this time I'm starting to seriously freak out. The hot feeling in my body was due to the blood that was rushing through it, as I was going through a panic and beginning an anxiety attack. [/I]

On days 17 and 18 I also had a pain in my mid left abdominal. It seemed to come and go between those days. [I]I think they were relieved by passing gas, and perhaps my position. Could be a sign of Irratable Bowel Syndrome or not.[/I] What if this is a sign of ARS?

On day 18 I couldn't sleep, constantly waking up every 15~30 minutes. I still had a headache, as well as nausea. I had the urge to vomit but kept it in, as that day I didn't eat much. [I]Suspicion: Not sleeping was due to stress as that is not an ARS symptom. Headache was possibly stress but then again, I'm stressed out right now but don't have a headache. Nausea might have been stress but just like the headache, I'm stressed now but don't have nausea.[/I]

I tested on day 18, 19, and 20 via antibody test. All results were negative but as we all know, window period is 12 weeks. On 20 or 21 I had a mild sore throat. [I]Suspicion: Possibly due to acid reflux, as I suffer from it. I have had little or no food in my stomach, and that sometimes causes acid to come up my esophogeaus, burn my throat, and give me a sore throat. [/I] On day 22, I had another antibody test done, as well as a PCR and tested for all other STDs. Counselor calls my encounter low risk, and highly doubts I would get infected from this encounter. [I]Suspicion: His comforting words were just to keep me relaxed as I was already being tested, and he wouldn't want to panic me more unncessarily. He figured he would let the doctor give me bad news if anything, and save himself the trouble. Maybe he justified that by thinking, "Only the tests are what matter, nothing else."[/I]


[B]The other person:[/B]
I asked the person I had the encounter with whether or not they were positive, and they said, "No. I would have spots on me if I were." That dumb*** reply really scared me.

I called them up on day 22, and told them about my possible symptoms. They seemed totally fine with what I was telling them. In fact, they quickly took a defensive stance saying, "If anything I got it from YOU!" That really scared me to death. Here I'am telling this person I have symptoms, and they are more worried about who gave it to who rather than the actual situation itself.

They then said that we were protected. I said, "Not when I inserted my penis in your mouth." They then said in a very robotic, emotionless way, "I don't remember that." My heart fell to the floor. It was as if they were protecting themself from being implicated as an HIV serial killer. [I]Now, again, I'm a firm believer that HIV isn't transmitted via unprotected insertive oral sex. But this reaction of her(his), along with my symptoms, make me feel as if my other suspicions are all true. She might have inserted her cum via finger inside me, she might have poked a hole in a rubber, etc. [B]Or perhaps I may have some serious mental issues. I see it both way right now.[/B][/I]

What's worse is that they were evasive about getting tested together, and was more worried about me telling other people than the possibility that they have HIV. Making me feel as if they KNOW they are already infected!

[B]Final Thoughts:[/B]
I have looked up many things on the web. And I have found some, not many, stories of people having all or most symptoms and yet being negative. Only issue is that none have been so on point as what I've described above. The time of occurance, the symptoms! The counselor did tell me that the most common symptoms would be a really bad flu and sore throat. None of which I've had. But that damn rash is scary. Heard that rash comes with fever. Heard it comes with mouth ulcers(in my case it did, and somewhere in the web it said it's very indicative).

Looking at everything I've said, what do you guys think? Please be totally honest. And thank you for reading!
[QUOTE=Worriedguy84;4722804]In this post I will be 100% honest and accurate on my encounter, suspicions, symptoms, and irrational thoughts.

[B]Sexual encounter:[/B]
23 Days ago I enaged in some sexual acts with a transsexual. From what I understand that's a high risk group. Those sexual acts include the following:

1) Me being fingered for a total of possibly 25 minutes.
[I]Suspicion: She(he) might have intentionally dipped their precum into my anus, and their actual cum after they came. I'm not sure since I had my back turned but at times I felt a lot of wetness that I doubt could've been due to just spit. I also suspect a cut on her finger, or needle sized hole(like a diabetetic test hole or finger stick. [B]I have no eveidence for the cuts or fingerstick on her finger, it is a product of my fear possibly, and my attempt to make sense of the symptoms I have. See below for symptoms.[/B][/I]
[COLOR="Red"][B]No Risk for HIV[/B][/COLOR]

2) [COLOR="Red"][B]Insertive anal sex WITH a condom[/B][/COLOR]. I entered her(him) with a condom.
[I]Suspicion: We were constantly removing condoms, and putting others on. But even though I didn't see any condom failure, I think maybe it did at one point due to my symptoms at 2 weeks. [B]My mind maybe making me think things. Mind fabricates fear.[/B]I wonder about what if condom had a needle sized hole in it. She kept fidgeting with the tip of the condom at times, and refused to use lots of lube. She said she was just checking the condom peri odically.[/I]

[COLOR="Red"][B]Condom Sex = Protected Sex= No Risk For HIV[/B][/COLOR]

3) Insertive, unprotected oral sex. I inserted my penis in her(his) mouth, ejaculated outside the mouth, but they quickly lapped on and cleaned it after I ejaculated. I'am uncircumsized.
[I]Suspicion: HIV Counselor asked me if I had insertive oral sex with her, as part of his questionaire. He also asked if I ejaculated. I traditionally believe oral poses no risk for the insertive partner, but being asked those questions have made me feel really uneasy. [B]A product of my possible paranoia. [/B][/I]

[B][COLOR="Red"]Oral Sex Carries no Risk for HIV again[/COLOR][/B]

4) Heavy kissing.
[B]Paranoid thought: Maybe I'm that rare case that catches it form kissing.[/B]
[B][COLOR="Red"]NIL and you wont be the first one in History to contract HIV that way[/COLOR][/B]
I spoke to people on the net after this exposure and was told I don't need PEP for this exposure.

[B]Symptoms:[/B]
All was well after this encounter though I did see a bruise-like spot on my belt line, hours after. It last 3 weeks, very odd.
[COLOR="Red"][B]If you were not risk for HIV then your symptoms cant be due to HIV[/B][/COLOR]

At exactly 14 days(2 weeks) after exposure I had a mouth sore, which lasted about 4 days maybe 5. That same day, I felt fatigue that is on and off until today(23 days past exposure). [I]Suspicion: I first dismissed the fatigue and weakness as just me being tired, cause I had been very active that week and had been getting maybe 6 hours of sleep a night. But also think now it might have been ARS.[/I]

[COLOR="Red"][B]If you were not risk for HIV then your symptoms cant be due to HIV[/B][/COLOR]

At day 15 or 16 I noticed a rash on my chest, and upper abdominal(where stomach meets the chest). It looked like small red circles. IF they were at all raised they were VERY slighty raised. When I noticed the rash it itched VERY, and I mean VERY lightly. [I]Suspicion: I know that the ARS rash is not itchy, so maybe I imagined it being itchy to feel less fearful.[/I] What is worse, I read some sites that said the ARS rash is "slighty itchy." This has to be by far the scariest symptom, as I hardly ever get rashes and when I do it isn't like this. That and the fact it happened at week 2, which is on par with ARS symptoms.

[COLOR="Red"][B]If you were not risk for HIV then your symptoms cant be due to HIV[/B][/COLOR]

On days 17 and 18 I had chills, and nightsweats. On day 18 I had a bad headache, and I mean bad. And felt hot throughout my body. But no fever. [I]Suspicion: I brushed the headache off as due to the stress, as by this time I'm starting to seriously freak out. The hot feeling in my body was due to the blood that was rushing through it, as I was going through a panic and beginning an anxiety attack. [/I]
[COLOR="Red"][B]If you were not risk for HIV then your symptoms cant be due to HIV[/B][/COLOR]

On days 17 and 18 I also had a pain in my mid left abdominal. It seemed to come and go between those days. [I]I think they were relieved by passing gas, and perhaps my position. Could be a sign of Irratable Bowel Syndrome or not.[/I] What if this is a sign of ARS?

On day 18 I couldn't sleep, constantly waking up every 15~30 minutes. I still had a headache, as well as nausea. I had the urge to vomit but kept it in, as that day I didn't eat much. [I]Suspicion: Not sleeping was due to stress as that is not an ARS symptom. Headache was possibly stress but then again, I'm stressed out right now but don't have a headache. Nausea might have been stress but just like the headache, I'm stressed now but don't have nausea.[/I]

I tested on day 18, 19, and 20 via antibody test. All results were negative but as we all know, window period is 12 weeks. On 20 or 21 I had a mild sore throat. [I]Suspicion: Possibly due to acid reflux, as I suffer from it. I have had little or no food in my stomach, and that sometimes causes acid to come up my esophogeaus, burn my throat, and give me a sore throat. [/I] On day 22, I had another antibody test done, as well as a PCR and tested for all other STDs. Counselor calls my encounter low risk, and highly doubts I would get infected from this encounter. [I]Suspicion: His comforting words were just to keep me relaxed as I was already being tested, and he wouldn't want to panic me more unncessarily. He figured he would let the doctor give me bad news if anything, and save himself the trouble. Maybe he justified that by thinking, "Only the tests are what matter, nothing else."[/I]


[B]The other person:[/B]
I asked the person I had the encounter with whether or not they were positive, and they said, "No. I would have spots on me if I were." That dumb*** reply really scared me.

I called them up on day 22, and told them about my possible symptoms. They seemed totally fine with what I was telling them. In fact, they quickly took a defensive stance saying, "If anything I got it from YOU!" That really scared me to death. Here I'am telling this person I have symptoms, and they are more worried about who gave it to who rather than the actual situation itself.

They then said that we were protected. I said, "Not when I inserted my penis in your mouth." They then said in a very robotic, emotionless way, "I don't remember that." My heart fell to the floor. It was as if they were protecting themself from being implicated as an HIV serial killer. [I]Now, again, I'm a firm believer that HIV isn't transmitted via unprotected insertive oral sex. But this reaction of her(his), along with my symptoms, make me feel as if my other suspicions are all true. She might have inserted her cum via finger inside me, she might have poked a hole in a rubber, etc. [B]Or perhaps I may have some serious mental issues. I see it both way right now.[/B][/I]

What's worse is that they were evasive about getting tested together, and was more worried about me telling other people than the possibility that they have HIV. Making me feel as if they KNOW they are already infected!

[B]Final Thoughts:[/B]
I have looked up many things on the web. And I have found some, not many, stories of people having all or most symptoms and yet being negative. Only issue is that none have been so on point as what I've described above. The time of occurance, the symptoms! The counselor did tell me that the most common symptoms would be a really bad flu and sore throat. None of which I've had. But that damn rash is scary. Heard that rash comes with fever. Heard it comes with mouth ulcers(in my case it did, and somewhere in the web it said it's very indicative).

Looking at everything I've said, what do you guys think? Please be totally honest. And thank you for reading![/QUOTE]

Buddy,
Everything you have described is NO RISK for HIV.

Probably you need to read a sticky post on the top of this BOARD "Possible Exposure.." by nyxin.

Also, Symptoms or no symptoms cant diagnose HIV only HIV Test at appropriate time does.

So said that, what you described doesn't put you at risk for HIV but yes you can get tested for other STDs which are much easier to catch.

Best of Luck!!





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