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Re: Brain MRI
Jun 11, 2016

Welcome. :wave:

Temporomandibular Joint Disorders (TMD or TMJ) can share overlapping symptoms with MS. Usually, MS Symptoms persist for 24+ hours (the severity can wax and wane). MS can present initially in 5% of MSers without lesions. Also, while a brain MRI will or should find lesions, there are MSers whose lesions present along the spine too. An MRI cannot confirm or deny MS and it is important to have an MS Specialist diagnose you because doctors with little or no MS experience can and do misdiagnose.

That said, the following symptoms are found to occur with patients with Temporomandibular Joint Disorders, Yes, many do overlap with MS or can be MS-like.

Symptoms may include pain or tenderness in your face, jaw joint area, neck and shoulders, and in or around the ear when you chew, speak, or open your mouth wide. Also you might experience problems when you try to open your mouth wide, that is, jaws may get "stuck" or "lock" in the open- or closed-mouth position. You might also experience clicking, popping, or grating sounds in the jaw joint when you open or close your mouth or chew. This may or may not be painful. I have had the latter all my life (popping om my left jaw) but this is something which is not MS related.

You may also have a tired feeling in your face; trouble chewing or a sudden uncomfortable bite -- as if the upper and lower teeth are not fitting together properly; or a swelling on the side of your face. I experience "droopy face" most often on my right side. The severity varies from complete numbness to slight. My MS Specialist showed me how to do the smile check. Look in the mirror and you can see if you are experiencing "Droopy Face". This would be the closest experience with "tired face" of which I can relate.

Other symptoms may include toothaches, headaches, neck aches, dizziness, earaches, hearing problems, upper shoulder pain, and ringing in the ears (tinnitus). You shared the ear sensitivity. My personal experience with tinnitus is not ringing, but rather pulsatile tinnitus. I also have sensitivity to certain sounds. To alleviate those time of sensitivity, I have passive hearing protection. My pulsatile tinnitus generally lasts for 2 - 5 days, though I have had one bout of 2 weeks. (It "sounds" like a helicopter approaching and departing and can vary in intensity, but does not come and go).

As to your eyesight, I would certainly encourage you to see an Ophthalmologist or a Neuro-Ophthalmologist. These are eye doctors, not optometrists. Optic Neuritis or some other eye concern might be unrelated to your current diagnosis.

Like with MS, anxiety is a problem for patients with Temporomandibular Joint Disorders. If you feel that you might have anxiety issues, whether short term or long term, your doctor can evaluate you.

Balance issues may be related to your ears.

MS has many mimicries. An MS Specialist can help sort through these. There is no specific test for MS, but there are tests for most of the MS mimicries. Gave you also had your blood tested? Vitamin D and B deficiencies can mimic MS. Anxiety also ranks high statistically for MS mimicries.

Thank you for sharing. I hope that you can get some answers because not knowing only adds to stress and anxiety. Please feel free to share with us while you search for an answer. :wave: :angel:

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