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I had the cracking and crackling noises for years in my neck and upper body. It does sound like bones popping and I thought my neck was in terrible shape.
I even had an MRI to see if I had some bad disc. I didn't.
The MT told me, it is muscles and ligaments snapping across bone or other ligaments. They make noise.

I would definetly consider a splint for night wear for grinding and clenching. As long as we do this, the muscles will never be normal. They will always be in some degree of spasm. My splint completely relaxes my face and I have no spasms that I'm aware of. I had "learned" not to grind years ago, with the help of my husband. (he woke me up for months until I was condtioned not to do this) I continued to clench and would grind occasionally with a lot of stress. My bite had nothing to do with it. My bite has been the same for many years.
I know that is the problem for many people. I don't know why I did it. (muscles ?)

My splint inhibits any movement at night and I have been (conditioned) again, not to clench in the day time. I hold my mouth and face in a relaxed position all of the time, as if the splint were in place.

I do believe if one area of the body is injured, weak, out of balance, not working properly, etc., other areas will try to compensate.

The body will adjust, reposition muscles, do what it has to do to maintain function and survival. In doing so, sometimes these "adjustments" will cause pain and problems.
Sometimes, it's hard to determine which part is compensating for another.

When you have multiple problems as many of have or have had, I think we have to treat everything appropriately to get everything back to normal.

I had good results with stretching type exercises for upper body problems. I used what is prescribed for Fibro Patients. This was shortly after my disc were removed and most everything else hurt my face. I still have some problems with lifting and using some types of exercise equipment.
We have to be careful and ease back into a normal regiment of exercise.

My insurance does not cover MT. But, it was the best money "out of pocket" I have ever spent.
My insurance does not cover my splint. I will most likely need one for a long time, maybe, forever. The support it provides for my joints and keeping them stable (with no disc) is the reason the muscles relaxed.
Without it, the muscles try to hold everything together "so to speak" and I have a return of some pain, after about a week.
This would not apply to most people, just some of us with surgical damage.

I only see my MT occasionally now, so the expense is not bad.

I know treatment for TMJD and alternatives, such as MT for other problems, can cut deeply into the bank account.

I can only say, the quality of life I have now, compared to what it was just a couple of years ago, has been worth every penny.

Hopefully in the future, Insurance will "catch up" with the reality of non-invasive treatments that actually help this problem and will change their policy on TMJD treatment.

Over the past 16 years, they have paid countless thousands for surgeries that caused futher problems that required more surgeries.
There are thousands of people who are in this category of Surgical Treatment "Only" for TMJD.

It makes you wonder, where they got this "Insurance Genious" who thinks paying for countless surgeries, amounting to billions or more over the years for TMJD patients, instead of paying for Non-Invasive treatments, which are cheap in comparison (and work). This kind of policy is beyond my comprehension.

Just figuring in my head, for what they paid for 1 surgery 16 years ago, I could go to an MT, once a week for 10 years and also pay for my splints.

Sorry to ramble, I just don't "get it", and never will.

Back to your question. I would see about a splint to stop any grinding and clenching, see the MT as much as possible, if you're seeing good results and continue with the stretching exercise. One other thing I did was Skilled Relaxation. It takes 30 mins. 2 times a day is best, once a day would help.
Skilled, just means using a tape in a quite place, listening to the voice guide you through a series of progessively relaxing muscles head to toe.
I thought it was stupid at first and didn't try it for a long time after I was given a tape and told it would help.

I got so desperate, I did try it and after a couple of months, my whole body was not in that "Braced" condition, I was less anxious about my health, I was in general, much more relaxed and calm. It helped many problems caused by stress and just "Today's" fast pace way of life. I was taking a few minutes everyday to totally relax. Very few people do that, even in their sleep.

Cymy Sue
[QUOTE=Cymy Sue]I had the cracking and crackling noises for years in my neck and upper body. It does sound like bones popping and I thought my neck was in terrible shape.
I even had an MRI to see if I had some bad disc. I didn't.
The MT told me, it is muscles and ligaments snapping across bone or other ligaments. They make noise.

I would definetly consider a splint for night wear for grinding and clenching. As long as we do this, the muscles will never be normal. They will always be in some degree of spasm. My splint completely relaxes my face and I have no spasms that I'm aware of. I had "learned" not to grind years ago, with the help of my husband. (he woke me up for months until I was condtioned not to do this) I continued to clench and would grind occasionally with a lot of stress. My bite had nothing to do with it. My bite has been the same for many years.
I know that is the problem for many people. I don't know why I did it. (muscles ?)

My splint inhibits any movement at night and I have been (conditioned) again, not to clench in the day time. I hold my mouth and face in a relaxed position all of the time, as if the splint were in place.

I do believe if one area of the body is injured, weak, out of balance, not working properly, etc., other areas will try to compensate.

The body will adjust, reposition muscles, do what it has to do to maintain function and survival. In doing so, sometimes these "adjustments" will cause pain and problems.
Sometimes, it's hard to determine which part is compensating for another.

When you have multiple problems as many of have or have had, I think we have to treat everything appropriately to get everything back to normal.

I had good results with stretching type exercises for upper body problems. I used what is prescribed for Fibro Patients. This was shortly after my disc were removed and most everything else hurt my face. I still have some problems with lifting and using some types of exercise equipment.
We have to be careful and ease back into a normal regiment of exercise.

My insurance does not cover MT. But, it was the best money "out of pocket" I have ever spent.
My insurance does not cover my splint. I will most likely need one for a long time, maybe, forever. The support it provides for my joints and keeping them stable (with no disc) is the reason the muscles relaxed.
Without it, the muscles try to hold everything together "so to speak" and I have a return of some pain, after about a week.
This would not apply to most people, just some of us with surgical damage.

I only see my MT occasionally now, so the expense is not bad.

I know treatment for TMJD and alternatives, such as MT for other problems, can cut deeply into the bank account.

I can only say, the quality of life I have now, compared to what it was just a couple of years ago, has been worth every penny.

Hopefully in the future, Insurance will "catch up" with the reality of non-invasive treatments that actually help this problem and will change their policy on TMJD treatment.

Over the past 16 years, they have paid countless thousands for surgeries that caused futher problems that required more surgeries.
There are thousands of people who are in this category of Surgical Treatment "Only" for TMJD.

It makes you wonder, where they got this "Insurance Genious" who thinks paying for countless surgeries, amounting to billions or more over the years for TMJD patients, instead of paying for Non-Invasive treatments, which are cheap in comparison (and work). This kind of policy is beyond my comprehension.

Just figuring in my head, for what they paid for 1 surgery 16 years ago, I could go to an MT, once a week for 10 years and also pay for my splints.

Sorry to ramble, I just don't "get it", and never will.

Back to your question. I would see about a splint to stop any grinding and clenching, see the MT as much as possible, if you're seeing good results and continue with the stretching exercise. One other thing I did was Skilled Relaxation. It takes 30 mins. 2 times a day is best, once a day would help.
Skilled, just means using a tape in a quite place, listening to the voice guide you through a series of progessively relaxing muscles head to toe.
I thought it was stupid at first and didn't try it for a long time after I was given a tape and told it would help.

I got so desperate, I did try it and after a couple of months, my whole body was not in that "Braced" condition, I was less anxious about my health, I was in general, much more relaxed and calm. It helped many problems caused by stress and just "Today's" fast pace way of life. I was taking a few minutes everyday to totally relax. Very few people do that, even in their sleep.

Cymy Sue[/QUOTE]


Hi and thanks again

Yes you are so right. Right now my husb is in the hosp., (clot on his lungs)I have a sick mother, and a demanding job, terrible commute, etc,. that I think if I relax more my neck/shoulder problems with muscles will loosen up.
Im not sure if I need a splint now that my bite/teeth are corrected. But like
you say its good to have in case of stressful times. Iam going to try to relax.
(hard to do with all things goin on right now) and exercise and strenghten my muscles at the gym and go for those massage therapies before I go for the
splint > I will be going to my tmj dr next week. Right now I think the high
stress level I am in is contributing to the tension/tight muscles. And I will
work on the trigger points I will have to trust my therapist. Im just afraid
of more pain? can you blame us? Stress is our worse enemy.

I will keep you posted

Pinky





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