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TMJ face change
Nov 19, 2009
[B][/B]In september I had Zoom!whitening done at my dentist's office which was the biggest mistake of my life..
not only did it cause the unexplainable pain, it took of all of the enamel..
however I was in so much pain I didn't know how to handle it and I remember
I just bit down hard on the towel.. and I believe that's what caused my TMJ..
in October, my left lower jaw started to hurt bad and my cheek was swollen.. I went to the dentist and he just thought I had stress..
but the pain and swelling moved over to my bottom neck.. then over to my right side of my face.. my face swelled up like a puffy bread and my very back teeth hurt SO BAD that I almost wanted to die..
then I felt like my jaw was dropping down like a SQUARE and I can seriously tell the difference when I look at the mirror..
my neck is always swollen as well as my face, and others can notice it too.
so I took advils, and yesterday I went to the acupuncture and I don't know if it's working...

[B]1) how can I make the swelling go away?

2) what do you think I should do?

3) I KNOW I don't grind my teeth at night, because I've never had this kind of problem UNTIL I went to the dentist's office.. do you think wearing splints will help at all?

4) [U]my face is changing,, how can I stop it?[/U]

5) are splints made to go back to my normal jaw position?
or do they just help to MAINTAIN my CURRENT jaw position?
or do they CREATE a NEW jaw position?

6) I don't have the popping noise YET,, but I can fit 3 fingers.. is this a good thing?

7) the back teeth seem to be the ONLY teeth that are touching. I think my teeth alignment shifted somehow and I had braces two years ago..
if the problem seems to be my lower jaw moving back a bit,., what do I do?[/B]

[B]8) my ears sometimes get plugged up as if I am on a plane and I don't have ear infection.. what do I do?[/B]

[B]9) my acupuncture doctor said it will be cured within few sessions.. can I trust him? does acupuncuture actually work?[/B]

[B]10) is your face changing too? if so, how?[/B]


PLEASE Lord,, help me........ it's my senior year.. and I can't do anything..
Re: TMJ face change
Nov 21, 2009
[B]1) how can I make the swelling go away?[/B]
If the swelling is being caused by hyperactive facial musles you need to get your bite repositioned

[B]2) what do you think I should do?[/B]
I second JMitchell about seeing a functional jaw orthodontist

[B]3) I KNOW I don't grind my teeth at night, because I've never had this kind of problem UNTIL I went to the dentist's office.. do you think wearing splints will help at all?[/B]
Appliances/splints/bite plates can be very helpful. However it does depend on the direction the disc is displaced and the extent to which it is displaced. If its displaced to the front then there is something like a 70% chance you can get it back to its correct anatomical position. Mine was 40% out and half sideways and half to the front so in the end I had to have surgery.

[B]4) my face is changing,, how can I stop it?[/B]
See question 1. My face went absolutely weird at one point before I got diagnosed. It became wider than long. All the grinding caused my cheek muscles to bulk out. At the time I just though I was getting fat but now I can see my cheekbones again

[B]5) are splints made to go back to my normal jaw position?
or do they just help to MAINTAIN my CURRENT jaw position?
or do they CREATE a NEW jaw position?[/B]
Splints will create a new jaw position. I think most people on this board have jaws that are set too far up and back which not only leads to disc displacement but also means you are closing down onto nerve fibres because you shock absorber is MIA

[B]6) I don't have the popping noise YET,, but I can fit 3 fingers.. is this a good thing?[/B]
3 fingers is a good opening. The more to the fromt the disc displaces the more opening will become limited, if there is a side ways displacement opening won't be affected as much

[B]7) the back teeth seem to be the ONLY teeth that are touching. I think my teeth alignment shifted somehow and I had braces two years ago.. if the problem seems to be my lower jaw moving back a bit,., what do I do?[/B]
Get a splint to bring you down and forward. There seems to be two types, a pivot and a repositioning. The pivot only has one point of contact on both sides and is designed to get the disc back in position. The repositioning appliance has an indexed occlusion so you close into grooves which holds your jaw in a fixed position. I wore a pivot to start with and now am on a repo which feels more normal

[B]8) my ears sometimes get plugged up as if I am on a plane and I don't have ear infection.. what do I do?[/B]
Look at some anatomy drawings, the ear canal is right next to the TMJ. If your jaw is too far up and back then there will be an impact on the ears

[B]9) my acupuncture doctor said it will be cured within few sessions.. can I trust him? does acupuncuture actually work?[/B]
Be wary. All these alternative medicine practitioners need the business and will make promises they cannot deliver on. He may be able to treat the pain in isolation but if the cause is not addressed then you won't solve the problem. I prefer to deal with facts and if you go to a good serious TMD specialist they will carry out proper diagnostics which will flag up whats wrong. You need a whole bunch of x-rays and an MRI scan to image the soft tissues

[B]10) is your face changing too? if so, how?[/B]
With the repo splint my face is back to how it used to be

Wish you the best of luck and hope these answers are helpful
Pipdog
thanks pipdog..

so today, I went in for my appointment with Dr. Martin at UW.
[B]and here's what happened:[/B] first, he checked my blood pressure on my wrist, then put some kind of hearing machine in my ears to check, then he asked some questions and put his fingers on my jaws and told me to open wide and close, then we just TALKED. at the end, he gave me plastic night guards. THE END. and I've paid $257 for the appointment.

I was waiting to get my jaws tested through the machines and really figure out what's happening inside, but we didn't do any of them. I also brought a copy of the questions that jmitchell posted earlier, and there're several testings like ESG, CMS, EMG, or even x-rays and we didn't do any.

he thinks I'll be cured within a month or something, and I might clench at night due to stress, so he gave me these cheap plastic nightguards to wear at night. he also mentioned my left jaw bone KIND of slides when I open, but once I stop clenching it will go back to normal.
and I also asked about why I can hear noises in my ears every time I swallow, and is it because the end of the bones are touching, and he said no, it can click without touching it. and I dont' believe it because if there's nothing, how can it make noise by itself?

I also asked if the night guards fail, and later I have to get splints, would it be the top one or the bottom, and he said it's the top one, because if I get the bottom one my jaw will move back further..

I also have clicking sounds in my shoulders and I asked if it's due to TMJ and he said no. but I know a LOT of people who have TMJ and their back and body bones are uneven, which means TMJ affects the whole body. so it doesn't sounds right that he said it is not related.

so now I'm left with these plastic night guards. I was crying in the car yelling at my mom because we didn't do THE check ups with ESG, CMS, EMG, or even x-rays and mom just believes the doctor.

what the heck....





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