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Hi everyone,

I am 2 yr sufferer of LPR who has contributed to many posts on the subject though not for some time. I had an aborted hernia repair and nissan fundo in December and await a new date. Like many of you I have always associated the reflux with too much acid being produced but now I am not sure. I feel that due to structural problems (hernia and loose LES) I am prone to reflux whatever acid I have in my stomach and a 24 hr PH monitoring confirmed as much. The reason I am questioning the whole acid thing is because despite taking PPI's I saw no relief from the reflux and the counter productive part of reducing further my already depleted stocks of Hcl is to leave me open to gastritis, h.pylori and yeast and parasitic overgrowth. Most unpleasant.

Before embarking on a course of PPI or H2 blockers I would ask to have your Hydrocloric acids levels tested. I am now in a real catch 22....if I take the antacids it lets the candida florish but if I take the Hcl supplements I have worse LPR incidents. Yeast overgrowth can be equally debilitating on the body and is closely linked to lethargy and depression (both of which I get when bad). There is an online test for Hyperchloridia (low Hcl levels) which I have tried and shows me up as depleted. Take a quarter teaspoon of baking soda in 8 oz of water first thing in the morning. If you have sufficient HCl levels you should belch within a few minutes. No belch or one longer than 5 minutes suggests very low hcl. Also when taking a Hcl supplement it does not cause me any burning in the stomach which further suggests low levels.

All I am saying is do not always think that excess acid is the problem. Symptoms of Hyperchloridia include: reflux, candida overgrowth, sluggish digestion, feeling bloated for long periods after eating any meal, intestinal gas,
sore throat, brain fog, lethargy, undigested food in stools. Prolonged misuse of antacids could seriously affect the stomach's ability to produce Hcl.
[QUOTE=ginger65]Hi everyone,

Like many of you I have always associated the reflux with too much acid being produced but now I am not sure. I feel that due to structural problems (hernia and loose LES) I am prone to reflux whatever acid I have in my stomach and a 24 hr PH monitoring confirmed as much. The reason I am questioning the whole acid thing is because despite taking PPI's I saw no relief from the reflux and the counter productive part of reducing further my already depleted stocks of Hcl is to leave me open to gastritis, h.pylori and yeast and parasitic overgrowth. Most unpleasant.

Before embarking on a course of PPI or H2 blockers I would ask to have your Hydrocloric acids levels tested. I am now in a real catch 22....if I take the antacids it lets the candida florish but if I take the Hcl supplements I have worse LPR incidents.

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All I am saying is do not always think that excess acid is the problem. Symptoms of Hyperchloridia include: reflux, candida overgrowth, sluggish digestion, feeling bloated for long periods after eating any meal, intestinal gas,
sore throat, brain fog, lethargy, undigested food in stools. Prolonged misuse of antacids could seriously affect the stomach's ability to produce Hcl.[/QUOTE]

Reflux is always caused by "structural problems". However, the damage is normally caused by stomach acid being refluxed. If you don't have much acid to begin with, you shouldn't need PPIs (or H2s).

BTW I have some of the symptons mentioned. For me they are the lesser of the two evils. Stomach acid can do serious damage (and trigger cancer of the esophogus).





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