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[QUOTE=progessmaker]Ok I see what I am dealing with here so I promise I am done after this because I can see you are one of the argumentative types.
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Nope, just trying to prevent people from spreading false hopes.

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I don't see any evidence backing up anything that you say as opposed to me posting one of many articles that back up what I say. Why don't you pick up a book that I own that substantiates this called Prescription for Nutritional Healing (sold in many places) & you can see that is one of the many books that is written about this.
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No evidence? What about medical fact?
Finding a book in NO way verifies information, unless there is some sort of peer-reviewing system behind the literature like you see in medical texts or journals.
There are plenty of books out there with pseudoscience and hypotheses formulated by people with no scientific background.


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This is a paragraph from that book. "Over time, toxins build up in the body as the result of pollutants in the air we breathe, the chemicals in food and water we consume, and other means. Periodically, the body seeks to rid itself of these toxins & releases them from the tissues. The toxins then enter the bloodstream, causing the body to experience a "low" or down "cycle".
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You realize that "toxins" in the body are processed by the liver and then excreted through the urinary system.


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As for toxins, have you ever heard of pesticides, chemicals, hormones, stimulants & all those things that they put in food that is not grown organically. Toxins are chemicals & pollutants. Do you think it is safe for you to breathe gasoline fumes all the time? Well gasoline fumes are toxins?
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It is not "safe," but the body deals with the chemicals accordingly, and they in no way lead to acne formation.

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Have you ever heard of toxic shock syndrome?
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You see, TSS has [B] no relevance at all whatsoever to your unspecified "toxins" being ingested into the body. Now I know you really have no idea about what you are talking about. [/B] Toxic shock syndrome, or TSS, is caused by the common bacteria Staphylococcus aureus which in rare cases can secrete a certain poison that is often fatal to the body.


[QUOTE=progressmaker]I am not sure you actually retained & understood what you read in those medical Journal & since you went there my Mom who is a Registered Nurse at the Truama Center at U of M feels exactly what I do & told me for many years until I change the inside, all the medication in the world that I put on my skin will not change that.
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Why? You keep telling me the same thing, but don't explain it. I know why, it's because you have no idea about how the body works and the things you are saying you are just making up and thus have no way of supporting them through fact.

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She has countless journals that she gets from ANA Journal & other medical sources that point to eating healthly & avoiding pollutants for healthy skin. Do you know that cows are not meat eaters by nature but that farmers injected them with hormones & stimulants so that they can withstand eating other meat (to make them bigger) & that is basically how cows started getting mad cow disease? Why do you think they are telling people not to eat farm raised salmon anymore & instead to eat wild salmon, because of the chemicals & hormones? Why do you think they tell pregnant women not to eat tuna, because the mercury in it can cause birth defects to the child? Do you think they ask you to wash your fruit thoroughly because there is harmless dirt on them, no they ask you to so that you can try to wash off the chemicals that are sprayed on the fruits? They can't even filter out birth control pill hormones & other chemicals out of tap water completely so that is why drinking purified water is being advocated so much noe. Why do you think there are warning labels on certain products containing chemical substances that can be harmful? I suppose you think the Nutrasweet issue is just a hoax also? Well I am among many people who can't have that stuff because it causes serious headaches & other symptoms? What do you think side-effects to certain medications are? Your body reacting to a unknown chemical in its system. You are proving yourself to be more than just sad because you don't even know the basics.
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That's interesting, you mention a numerous amount of products which have chemicals in them. Yes, some of these products are poisonous and neurotoxic and hepatotoxic, but how in the world do they have anything to do with your theory of toxins building up in the body? It's funny how you purport that I don't know the basics. Quite the opposite, isn't it?

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Tell me what are your answers to clearing acne since you know so much? I never said that acne could clear in 3 days & I don't think anyone else in this post did either, however as I got up this morning & noticed that my face is even clearer than yesterday, I know it is true that this process is working for me & that is my biggest concern. Again I tried juice fasting & not the acne free in 3 days thing so the approaches are slightly different. I am interested in helping others & letting them know what has worked for me more than arguing & not backing up anything I say like yourself. Why don't you post some of your findings by cutting & pasting them.
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There is no one cure for acne as it can be a very resilant problem. The best advice to give is to wash your face once or twice a day with a medicinal product like benzoyl peroxide, salycilic acid, and to avoid eating certain foods. The diet aspect has not been proven yet, and so unlike you I am hesitant to say that. However, there have been some as to date unverified studies which show certain things like carbohydrates may or may not increase sebum production or support inflammation. I'm talking about regular food products here, not "toxins".

If you have more severe acne, it would be a good idea to see a dermatologist and possibly obtain an accutane prescription.


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If you know many vegetarians like I do, you know that they probably have clear eyes, healthy hair, & skin unless they eat a lot of refined sugars & dairy products. There is a reason why they generally look healthier don't you think?
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My ex-girlfriend was a vegetarian, and she was sick all the time.

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I didn't just do this by itself I also take vitamins like E, betacarotene, magnesium, selenium, B-complex,C, lecithin & most importantly I started taking the EFA's (Essential Fatty Acids) because many acne sufferers lack them, especially ones with oily skin so I noticed a drastic difference with all that. I eat my fruit, vegetables, avoid too much sugar, dairy, red meat, & I drink lots of water. I wish you good luck & I hope that you focus more on learning in the future rather than arguing.[/QUOTE]

Those things you mentioned about your diet are perfectly fine, and they may help your acne. However, the crux of this argument was your theory of toxin buildup which is all I'm trying to get you to understand. It is not going to work. Even if you had "toxin buildup", they are not going to lead to acne.

I have also struggled with acne in the past and still have a minor problem at the current time. I have used Retin-A which cleared my skin quite well, and then followed up after with minocycline (an antibiotic) which prevented new acne spots. Now I'm off the minocycline and just using benzoyl peroxide, which is doing a good, but not perfect job at keeping my skin clear. You don't have to reply if you don't want to, but I hope you understand that you were mistaken about the toxin theory. If you don't reply, I have no negative feelings about you (just a bit of sadness that you are being led on by this theory), and I wish you the best in getting your skin clear.





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