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[QUOTE=ItsAll2easy27]I just started too man, Im on my 4th day, we should keep each other updated on our progress. what dosgage are you on. im on 40mg in the Am and 20mg in the PM. my face is kinda red and feels very sensitve my lips are starting to get a little dry, i also noticed that i have alot of whiteheads that turn into flakes after a couple days.[/QUOTE]

Definitely. I'm on 40mg a day, 20 in the morning and 20 at night. I was prescribed 60 but thought that was too much for my weight and since I dont have severe acne. As for my face, its basically normal in all respects except that its oiler than before and I'm breaking out more than usual.

What products are you using? I'm using Cetaphil face wash and lotion, both are REALLY good. It helps to put the lotion on when your face is still damp. For my lips I'm using Aquaphor. It's shiny but it moisturizes really well, I basically keep a coat of it on my lips 24/7. Good thing is it doesn't really build up into that filmy crap that other chapsticks do. For my nose I'm using Vaseline to make sure it doesnt bleed... it started bleeding like the 2nd or 3rd day when I wasn't using it but the Vaseline has stopped it completely.

I'm drinking about 60-70 Fl Oz of water per day. Don't know how much this helps or if its enough but its about all I can drink. Also, I'm taking 400IU's of Vitamin E in the afternoon. Apparently it's good to take V. E while on Accutane cause it helps repair the skin or something like that.
[QUOTE=ItsAll2easy27]Im using St Ives clear pore clenser, I used to have cetiphill but i ran out, ill have to go get some more. Is it just the normal face wash? As for chapstick Im using just regualr chapstick brand, Ill try out the one you said, if they start to get really bad.

As for the vitamin E, ill try that out, is it the powder or the pills? Its hard to belive that after all this our faces will be perfect. Ive seen my friends after they are done and its like you can never tell they ever had acne.[/QUOTE]

No, I use the Cetaphil Gentle Cleanser (it comes in a really retarded non-pump bottle), the normal one used to dry me out, so it would probably be a lot worse while on Accutane.

As for the vit. E, its in pills. I don't think I spent more than 5 dollars on like 100 pills. And ya, I can't believe it either. I don't want to get my hopes up too much though. I'm just hoping I can get through the initial breakout with no scars.
I've been using antibiotics for about the last 3-4 years and starting Accutane 20mg per day. My face is pretty clear its just that the acne isn't going away (and I've never stopped the antibiotics to see how bad it could get). Do you think I'll still get the initial breakout? I've got the Cetaphil lotion and I'm going to pickup the Cetaphil face wash as well as some Aquaphor (been using Dove soap and Carmex).

Thanks,
William T. Thompson
A little update - Day 8

I'm starting to see a reduction in oil, I haven't blotted my face at all today and its maintained a nice, healthy look to it.

No active whiteheads at all. Everything seems to have calmed down, just a couple small red pimples scattered around. The other day I had this HUGE whitehead, whatever was in it came out the next day and its healing extremelly well. I thought it was gonna leave a scar but it looks like its gonna be all right (knock on wood). I dunno if its the Accutane, the Neosporin, or the Vitamin E, but something helped out there.

I also seem to be clearing out some of the crap that was in my pores. A lot of small, yellow/whitish deposits (dont really know what to call them) are coming to the surface, I'm hoping the blackheads on my nose will start clearing.

As for side effects, I can definetly tell that my lips are getting drier. The intervals between Aquaphor reapplication are getting closer together. My skin is also dry in the mornings after the shower, its like I have peeling skin and it gets white and stuff. The Cetaphil lotion fixes that up right away though. Yesterday I also noticed that my ears were dry. Made me laugh a little, but again cetaphil cleared that up immediatly.
I'm getting slight back aches too. Didn't expect that this early but so far changing positions clears it up.

Thats bout it. ItsAll2easy27 and everyone else, how are you all progressing?
Hey, I just thought I'd recommend the post "FINALLY..something that has worked for me" which talks about using cetaphil cleanser without water. I swapped from using water (and getting quite dry skin) to just wiping it off with a cloth and my skin has been heaps better. Useful for us accutane users because of how dry our skin gets. I'm coming to the end of week 4 and my little breakout seems to be coming to an end, I have a lot of smooth skin with just 2 pimples I'm concerned about! Wohoo. (fingers crossed)
[QUOTE=j54]Hey, I just thought I'd recommend the post "FINALLY..something that has worked for me" which talks about using cetaphil cleanser without water. I swapped from using water (and getting quite dry skin) to just wiping it off with a cloth and my skin has been heaps better. Useful for us accutane users because of how dry our skin gets. I'm coming to the end of week 4 and my little breakout seems to be coming to an end, I have a lot of smooth skin with just 2 pimples I'm concerned about! Wohoo. (fingers crossed)[/QUOTE]

Are you using the Cetaphil daily facial cleanser and not washing but wiping it off?

Thanks,
Trigg
Day 12

The dryness is really kicking in. I have to apply Aquaphor every chance I get, especially since I drink so much water and drinking tends to degrade the aquaphor. My face has also gotten very dry whenever water touches it. My cheeks get really white and not even Cetaphil get all the peeling skin to calm down at first. After like a half an hour the whiteness starts to fade. It's really annoying, and kinda nasty. Anyone know a way of getting the peeling clumps, or whatever they are, off without damaging my skin?

No real breakouts. About 3-4 small whiteheads since the last post. All go away the same day. I am sure a breakout is coming soon though. I can see bumps forming beneath my skin, which are crap that are trapped in there that will soon come to the surface and burst their way out. I know cause thats what Retin-A used to do. Although Im majorly nervous about one of those bumps. Its coming right at the edge of my lip, if that forms into one of those massive white heads that they sometimes do it will be killer.

No other side effects to speak of. I'm also switching to using Cetaphil without water. Ill fill you guys in on how that works.
Hey Triggert, I am using cetaphil and wiping it off with a make-up remover pad (I'm a girl, I have these things lying around!). It has really made a huge difference with flaky skin - I don't have any now since stopping using water. I had another bit of a breakout over the weekend (the end of week 4) this time on the opposite side of my face to the last lot, but they were definitely forming before I changed my cleansing routine - I really hate how you can see them coming but can't do anything about it.
How is everyone going?
How is the cetaphil going skeet?
Let me just say, you have a LONG WAYS to go. :wave: Let me tell you my success story on accutane. I am a 26/f. I started accutane in July 03 finished up Dec 29 03. So I have been accutane free since New Years. :)

Since stopping the acctutane my face has gotten even better, its not sensitive. ITS NORMAL. Its wonderful! :cool:

I really didn't see improvement until Thanksgiving. And even then I felt like I was walking on egg-shells. The best thing to do is forget about it, and don't keep looking at it. It does take time to complete the process. Its only been 3-4 days for you, its going to get worse before it gets better.

I used Cetaphil Cleanser for the 1st few weeks, then I found Eurcerin Gentle Hydrating Cleanser. Works great. After about 12 weeks I still was breaking out a little, so I bought some Neutreogena clear-pore Cleanser/Mask, I used it in certain areas, to kill any bacteria lurking. It seemed to clear right up, but may have been coindence.

But I have to say it took the full 4-5 months to see any real improvement.

I had dry nose and eyes, and some rough patches on my skin, but i used Aquaphor, vaseline and lotion. But i didn't really consider this to be a problem.

NOW my skin is awesome!! no oil!!!
I still use the Cetaphil cleanser, eucerin,
ANd now I use some Freeman Avocado cleanser, ST. Ives gentle scrub. I like to break up the routine. Sometimes I use proactiv.
For a mask I use Queen Helene Mint Julip, and Freeman avocado mask.
For a toner I like Burts bees tomato toner, Mary kay Purifying toner, and proactiv. I even sometimes use some BP 2.5 all over my face.

Oh and also take vitamin E.
And also when you take the accutane pill, i drank whole milk with it, because accutane is fat soluable, so it'll work better.

Thanks
Melissa Ann :angel:
[QUOTE=j54]Does anyone know what vitamin E does? Lots of people seem to recommend it for while you're on accutane - I think someone mentioned it for your eyes? Do you think this would be a useful vitamin to take if you wear contacts? My eyes haven't dried out that much, but I am a bit worried that they might and I'll need to wear my glasses (not that that's such a bad thing, I just prefer to wear contacts!) Anyway, just wondering whether it's worth going and buying some :-)[/QUOTE]

Ya, it probably would be useful for contacts. But it may only delay the inevitable, since I hear most people can't stand contacts while on Accutane. I read some place online that initial studies have shown that vitamin E decreases the toxicity of Accutane while not affecting the efficacy. That was enough to convince me I should take it.

BTW, im on day 15th and I'm currently not super dry in the slightest. It looks like I've stopped producing oil for the most part but my face isn't nearly as dry as everyone said it would get. It's starting to get to the extent where I'm wondering whether or not its working. It was kinda dry before but the thing is I changed my routine. I stopped using water when I wash with Cetaphil, and I never let water touch my skin. I attribute the moisturization to that but to some extent I'm wondering if its actually not that and that my Accutane (I take the generic Amnesteem kind) isn't working... so can somebody else who's on Accutane try this the non-water routine?

Basically I avoid any water on my face in the shower. Afterwards I wet my fingers and apply cetaphil lotion on my face, I keep wetting my fingers to make sure that water is part of the mixture cause cetaphil works better w/ a little dampness. At night I just wash with Cetaphil w/out water and reapply the lotion in the same way. If anyone else tries this and they notice an extreme decrease in there skin dryness then it must be that that method circumvents the extreme dryness of accutane.... if not, then my accutane isn't working right (or yet).

Thanks
Triggert: Yeah, or we'll all end up vitamin junkies! I already take some vit b and c, and my friends think i'm nuts! I have a book at home that says how much is recommended, and how much is a theraputic dose and how much is toxic for vitamins, and where to find it naturally, so will do some research after work and get back to you on this.

Skeet: I changed to wash without water, and it definitely decreased the flakies on my skin, but I also changed to slather on heaps of cetaphil moisturiser afterwards, so I'm not sure which one helped more! It sounds like it was the change in routine that stopped you being so dry - seen as you were worse before changing. Remember that it's only been two weeks, it may not be doing all that much yet anyway. Also remember that by moisturising even when you're not dry, you're preventing your face from -becoming- dry, so it's all good.
[QUOTE=triggert]Is it ok to take supplements for vitamin E or try and get it naturally? I've read that, quote, "the alpha-tocopherol in most vitamin E supplements and in fortified foods is man-made - a synthetic form that's only half as potent as the naturally occurring vitamin E found in foods. And it's possible to get too much vitamin E from dietary supplements, too." How much is a safe amount of vitamin E to take daily? I don't need to harm myself more than the Accutane already is!

Thanks,
Trigg[/QUOTE]

You can't get anywhere near the amount of Vitamin E in supplements thru food. While I have heard that synthetic Vitamin E may be less potent, but even at half the potency you'll still get a lot more from a snythetic vitamin than from food. Either way there are supplements that use natural Vitamin E, just look for the word Natural on the bottle, and then in the back look for a d before alpha-tocopherol, that means it comes from natural sources. If you see dl then its synthetic.

The range that most people should take is between 400-800 IU's. I take 400 a day. As long as you don't take over 800 IU's a day you'll be fine.

[Quote]Skeet: I changed to wash without water, and it definitely decreased the flakies on my skin, but I also changed to slather on heaps of cetaphil moisturiser afterwards, so I'm not sure which one helped more! It sounds like it was the change in routine that stopped you being so dry - seen as you were worse before changing. Remember that it's only been two weeks, it may not be doing all that much yet anyway. Also remember that by moisturising even when you're not dry, you're preventing your face from -becoming- dry, so it's all good.[/Quote]

Thanks j54. Made me feel better, lol. :bouncing:





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