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LOL Neca...woohoo..someone who can talk as much as I do in a post :D ! I wish I could tell you about all of the people who I've either A.) read about or B.) know , who have cured themselves through diet. The thing is...everyone is different though. I have known others who have gone the diet route and been able to eat much more meat than I can, or can tolerate oatmeal. Maybe it is because I didn't start with any of the cleanses first and that is why my diet must be alot more refined than others..but either way, it poses no problems for me, and whether the cleanses have raised my tolerance..I probably won't test my boundaries any, because I enjoy the way I eat...and I feel there are other health benefits to it as well. That does remind me though...I did come across some various interesting salad recipes that I've gotta post! I just have to go back and find them ;) . Maybe they can bring a little more variety for everyone. Oh, another thought about an interesting recipe..well, it could be interesting..I've never tried it. I know with macrobiotic recipes they include kombu with alot of dishes...maybe it would go well with quinoa flakes? The reason I'm thinking this is because I know they suggest adding salt to quinoa flakes, and kombu is a bit salty. Hmm, just a thought. I eat these maybe twice a year lol, but it still might be interesting!

Neca, I feel like I relate to you in terms of how long it is taking you..because it took me longer than everyone else as well! I was just wondering about some things beyond diet. You say that you tend to have alot of oil production on your face....do you use fabric softener or dryer sheets? These cause alot of people to break out because they generally leave a layer of oil on peoples faces/bodies (most people also tend to use these softeners/sheets on their laundry loads of towels :nono: ). For some reason my sensitivity to detergents and fabric softeners was a little high....so generally I don't use a towel to dry my face...instead it either air dries, or dries from the air coming from my fan on my desk (but that's just me!). Your oil production should have decreased with diet, so that's why I was wondering if maybe there was something else causing the oilyness on your face. Just a thought :) .

LOL Indy and Neca about the waking up early! I can't ever get more than a few hours of sleep these nights! I am just never ever tired...it's driving me insane! lol I used to go to bed around 10 and wake up around 7...now I can't get to sleep until 1 or 2, and I still wake up at 7! :eek: I feel like I should be getting more sleep to give myself healing time...but I just can't sleep! lol

As for myself, I don't drink much green tea, though it is nice with some lemon and a bit of honey. I don't care much for almonds in honey though, honey is just a little too sweet for me. But, I eat plenty of fruit and I'm sure that's enough sugar for me for the day!

Indy, you just eat apples and some almond butter and go till lunch with nothing? Maybe I have a bigger appetite than you lol. Why don't you bring something to snack on? Maybe some almonds, or hazelnuts, or raw carrots, or a grapefruit...or something else? If you've got a desk, you could always pick up one of those mini desktop fridges (which you can get pretty cheap) and keep it up on your desk to keep your snacks cool :cool: .

Neca, your right, eating smaller meals throughout the day is much better for you. When you eat a meal, you should not make yourself "full". I remember the days where I used to stuff myself 3 times a day (everyday was like Thanksgiving for me lol)....I felt terrible! As for the paragone, I don't think it should harm your teeth? It didn't have any effects on mine as far as I can tell. I'm not too sure about the bentonite? Let's see...mine says Purified Bentonite GP Premium (Yerba Prima Great Plains Detox Bentonite), if that helps any? You'll have to check with Prometheus on that one.

As for the cleanses....they are important. Diet will heal you, but think of it this way...If a car hasn't been taken care of/kept up (no tune ups, not changing the oil, bad fuel/oil, etc) the entire time the owner has had it and then one day the owner decides...well, today I think I am going to put good gas and high quality oil in it...well..it may run a little better, but it still has junk and problems left behind from it not being taken care of previously...so it's not going to run like a brand new off the showroom floor car. Haha, okay, did that make any sense? I've been up too long...no sleep, an abundance of energy, and a few too many apples can make you loopy sometimes!

LOL, Yes, I should grow my own fruits and veggies. My health food store beams when I walk in..I think it's because they know that I'll be walking out broke and they'll have all of my money lol. I eat alot (let's just say I can go through a jar of almond butter easily in one day, and still have plenty of room leftover for much much more food). But, I'm also a pretty active person, and I don't want to lose anymore weight, so I do keep plenty of snacks on hand.

As for things going through your system easily...well that is just great! You know what shocked me a few months back? Well, I went to a new doctor near me for a checkup (I like to get my blood checked every now and then...I almost think it's become a habit lol. My levels are fine and everything, but, it's just a fun passtime to find out all of the cool stuff about your blood! lol..and if you do have anything wrong with it, trust me, you'll see everything become perfect levels for your bloodwork). Anyhow, back to the story! Well, they asked the general questions, one being how many bowel movements do I have each day. I said everyday, atleast 2-3. The doctor looked at me like I was crazy! Her exact words were "That is not good. If your having that many bowel movements a day, than too much is going out of you! Nobody should be eliminating that much." If that's the advice a doctor gives..well then give me a white coat and a thermometer and call me Doc, because I know that I can do much more good for her patients than she can!

Keep up the cleansing and eating well! It will pay off. Sometimes it takes time for our bodies to adjust/clean out/and get better overall. I know a few people who switched to raw food diets and didnt finally experience "fully clear skin" until 9 mnths to 1 1/2 years later (one had acne most of their life, the other had developed adult acne, and they didn't change anything other than diet, so I'm very convinced this was it!). Don't get discouraged. Nobody develops acne overnight, and nobody can fix it overnight either ;) . But, I think alot more people are on the right track to fixing it..and fixing any other health problems they might have. BTW, you asked how long it was before I could look and say "I have clear skin". Well, I honestly think everyone judges themselves alot more than others, and when your achieving results slowly..you don't always recognize them. I didn't think my skin was "flawless" or anything like that a few months back, but what opened my eyes a little bit more was when the nurse taking my blood looked at me and said "you have the smoothest complexion I have ever seen, what do you use on your face!" I just smiled and said it's what goes inside of me..not on me. Right when I got done and she was walking me out another nurse complimented me on how my skin seemed to glow and was wondering what I used on it....when you hear things like that, it feels great! That's when I finally took a good look in the mirror and realized I didnt have any bumps at all, just a few fading marks, and I seemed to be the only one who noticed those! And that was a few months back, and I think my complexion looks 100x better now :) .

I hope that covered everything...sometimes I just start typing and stray wayyyy of topic.

Take care!
[QUOTE=indy gal]My goodness, you ladies post novels! I feel like I never have the time.[/QUOTE]

LOL Indy! I am a guy, I really hope I don't come off sounding like a woman ha!

Well I also have to join the breakout group, yesterday I got quite a few mini-breakouts notably a few allergic reactions, whiteheads and a few red marks. The thing is this is to be expected as we are sweeping out all these parasites and toxins many old ones too but hopefully the breakouts will settle down within a few weeks.

[QUOTE=indy gal]was thinking that maybe, just maybe, I didn't have any in me. (Or is that just wishful thinking?)[/QUOTE]

Like parasites, we ALL have MP even if you still don't see any after 6 months of cleansing. MP is the build up of mucous matter on the walls of the intestines. Also called a layering of mucin or glycoproteins (made up of 20 amino acids and 50% carbohydrates) which are naturally and appropriately secreted by intestines as protection from acids and toxins. Medical research indicates that mucoid plaque is a normal self-defense measureónatural protection from unnatural toxins. So as it is naturally produced we all have it but its thickness will vary from person to person. I read about the 4-5 shakes thing from RICHARD ANDERSON, N.D., N.M.D. article called "The Key to Excellent Health: Cleansing the Colon".

[QUOTE=indy gal](Or is that just wishful thinking?)[/QUOTE]

Unfortunately yep :(

MsMeagan it's quite promising that you are now clear even without seeing any MP, it probably means that the parasite kill was the crucial factor is clearing your skin. I'm sure the bowel cleansing played its part too but maybe the parasites were the ones causing the acne? What do you think was the key element in clearing your skin? I'm just glad it means I won't have to spend weeks trying to get rid of MP as it seems like the entire process takes ages.

[QUOTE=MsMeaganMay]maybe it was "rosacea", maybe it was topicals, maybe it was my face wash, maybe it was my face scrubs...but maybe, it was the inside of me as well. What I do know now is that it is gone[/QUOTE]

OMG please tell me how you got rid of the facial flushing I am desperate to resolve this issue. Wow that is great, yours just went away? Do you remember when you stopped experiencing the flushes i.e. pre/post cleansing? I hate them so much! In my opinion, it's probably stressed related which naturally knocks the hormones out of balance causing strange blood flows. I don't think scrubs or face washes could cause it but maybe antibiotics or steroids which could create a leaky gut. I'm determined to sort this out though.

WOW that almond butter recipe seems great, thanks alot. It doesn't seem too difficult, just requires a bit of patience. LOL, you should so set up a 'MsMeaganMay's home-made almond butter' business. That would be great. But the hard part would be not actually eating the almond butter! A better idea would probably be to release your own 100% Organic Recipe Book. You have posted so many great recipes I'm sure it would be a best-seller :D .

[QUOTE=MsMeaganMay]Here is the liver cleansing salad recipe:
1 cup or more of carrot pulp, or grated carrot, or the carrot remains from juicing.
1 tablespoon each or more of olive oil and lemon juice, with raisins, seeds or spices (recommended to try ginger) to flavor.

Eat this for 7 days in a row (I'm pretty sure you caneat other things....but have this as one of your meals), no skipping any days .

Good Juice for the liver:
fresh-squeezed carrot/apple/parsley/beet juice as often as you can.[/QUOTE]

Now I'm really confused with regards to this 'Liver Cleansing Salad'. My salads always consist of loads of carrots, parsley, olive oil and lemon juice does that mean I have been cleansing my liver all my life, lol :confused: ? I don't use fresh-squeezed apple or beet juice though. This cleanse won't produce gallstones will it? It will just lightly clean the liver out.

Okie dok guys, speak to ya later.. :)
[QUOTE=indy gal]*blushes* I am so sorry! I guess there was never any indication one way or another. For the longest time I thought Prometheus was a guy, then one day she posted something that made me know I was wrong.[/QUOTE]

:D don't worry about, it was quite funny! I know, it is sometimes impossible to tell who is male/female.

[QUOTE=indy gal]do carrots affect your skin?[/QUOTE]

Indy, carrots are unbelieveable! Whenever I was desperate to really get my skin into shape I would buy about two 1.5 litre (60Oz I think?) bottles of pure organic carrot juice. I would drink both bottles in one day. By the next day, my skin would be glowing and looking great! I can't do this anymore because no supermarkets where I live now are selling pure organic carrot juice and carrying home 50 raw carrots just weighs too much.

Do you know the nutrional make-up of carrots, they are full of EVERYTHING:

1 cup serving provides:

- 850% of recommended daily intake for Vitamin A (yes 850% i.e. alot lol!)
- 280% of the RDI for Vitamin K
- 20% of the RDI for biotin
- over 15% of the RDI for fiber
- 15% of the RDI for Vitamin C and Vitamin B6
- Over 10% of the RDI for Potassium and Vitamin B1
- Over 5% of the RDI for Phosporous and Vitamin B3, Magnesium & Vitamin B5
- 5% of the RDI for Iron

There are several other nutrients too but you get the idea :) It's probably the best food for treating the skin. They are an excellent source of antioxidant compounds, and the richest vegetable source of the pro-vitamin A carotenes.

[QUOTE=MsMeaganMay]I read a question and answer article in an online magazine once about a guy who was concerned about his skin taking on an orangish tint. He said that he had been juicing carrots everyday for the past year or two to keep his acne away and that his skin looked amazing, but it was beginning to take on a yellow/orangish tint, and was wondering if there was any way to make it go away. Anyhow, the "doctor" told him there was no acne/food connection, and to stop juicing so many carrots. But, the point of the story is that carrots are good for you[/QUOTE]

Ok that guy is pretty crazy, overdosing on anything is dangerous. Excessive consumption of carotene-rich foods may lead to a condition called [B]caratoderma[/B] in which the skin develops a yellow or orange cast. This yellowing of the skin is related to carotenemia, excessive levels of carotene in the blood. Eating or juicing high amounts of foods rich in carotene, like carrots, may over tax the bodyís ability to convert these foods to vitamin A. The body slowly converts carotene to vitamin A, and extra carotene is stored, usually in the palms, soles or behind the ears. If the cause of the carotenemia is eating excessively high amounts of foods like carrots, the condition will usually disappear after reducing consumption.

So moral of the story is, as MsMeagan says, carrots are good for you but not too many!

[QUOTE=MsMeaganMay]Well, I was clear before the cleanses (I've been following acne diets for a year though...and refined them to Prometheus's diet 5 or 6 months ago)...but my healing time on things still wasn't great. During/after the cleanses was when I really started to see my past marks fade away, and other things improve in me.[/QUOTE]

Now this really interests me MsMeagan. Your skin has reacted positively since your dietary change and it seems like this was the key factor in resolving any acne problems. The cleansing has just speeded up your skin's process of healing as you say. What I am finding it difficult to understand is why I continue to experience all these skin problems even though I have maintained a diet very similar to yours or Prometheus'? Moreover, I have followed it for at least 4-5 years. I guess either it's in my genetic make-up causing my hormones to be naturally out of balance or my digestive system is full of MP and parasites that leach off all the goodness from the foods I consume. All in all, I am pretty confused and wish my diet would resolve the problems. I guess I can start by doing some hormone tests.

[QUOTE=MsMeaganMay]I had inhalers for years due to my asthma (steroids), and was also on antibiotics for all kinds of things as a child (I had to take an antiobiotic for 6 or 7 months when i was younger due to a ring worm infection, plus all of the other antibiotics that doctors prescribe for EVERYTHING).[/QUOTE]

Yes I agree, antibiotics do play a heafty part in destroying our insides but I have been off antibiotics for some time now. I think the last time I used antibiotics was about 10 months ago and that was only a 10-day course. However I have used loads over the past 3 years so maybe my insides need ALOT of rebuilding time? My facial flushing really became a problem when my acne started making me self-conscious. It's so annoying because it's an organic reaction that I cannot prevent. Sometimes when I feel people are staring at my skin makes me nervous/embarassed then I feel my heart beat increase rapidly thus causing the blemishes to rush through my face. I think the only way to resolve this problem is to be comfortable with one's own body. Just when I thought acne was hard to cure...lol! But thanks MsMeagan for all your advice regarding this, I really do appreciate it and am glad I can learn from your experiences aswell.
[QUOTE=prometheus]Neca, what do you mean you are born with allergies?[/QUOTE]

As far back as I can remember I have had allergies. My mother said I started developing infrequent allergies when I was around 5 or 6.

[QUOTE=prometheus]Actually I don't really know the diet you follow. In order to get rid of acne you have to get rid of what causes it...cleanses alone will not do it. Cleanses are a waste of time alone, if you ask me.[/QUOTE]

You do know the diet I follow. I have outlined it so many times on these boards and have posted several suggestions to people of the diet acne sufferers should follow.

Of course cleanses are a waste of time if you just eat mucuous forming foods. I hardly think it would be productive for me (or others on this board reading this) to claim I am going to heal myself naturally through cleansing and at the same time eat a junkfood diet. If I knew what was causing my acne do you think I would still be consuming such a product? It would be out of the window and I would never look back.

[QUOTE=prometheus]You say you don't eat breads dairy etc..but I don't know what this means since you've also said that eating not so good things in moderation is very good and keeps your body from becoming too clean and allergies from getting worse. If you still have acne there is something in your diet that needs to be removed...maybe look at the list again. I don't know.[/QUOTE]

I made the recommendation to people that if you want to avoid allergies developing in the future, you should not entirely wipeout every 'bad' food or not so good foods from our diet. Occasionally eating not so good foods like red meat, eggs, pure chocolate, cheese etc. will help the body develop a strong immunity to these foods thus retaining the antibodies in the body's memory banks. If you discontinue consumption of foods I described above then you run the risk of getting a serious allergic reaction in the future if your body was to encounter any of them unexpectantly.

However, this theory is of course not so good for acne sufferers because it rekindles toxins when these not so good foods are ingested thus causing skin eruptions and mucous that can take weeks-months to fully excrete from the body. So it is a vicious circle.

But my diet is so 'pure' now (and has been for 3 years) that I am afraid my allergy tolerance level is from low and weak. I eat only organic foods; fruits, vegetables, nuts, seeds, oily fish, small portions of chicken. I don't eat any high carb foods like pasta, rice, bread etc. nor do I eat dairy/eggs foods nor do I eat any foods containing extrinsic sugars.

I cannot blame my diet any longer for causing my acne. There is definitely something else and in my eyes it is hormonal. Yes eating the right foods HELPS balance your hormones but honestly I believe my natural hormonal imbalances by far outweighs any counter-balancing aids from my diet.

[QUOTE=prometheus]About allergies, though..I bet if you moved to a less polluted area they would get better.[/QUOTE]

I agree with this. I think if I were to live on a farm the majority of my allergies would disappear and there are several journals detailing this.

My fear is that it does seem odd that since starting these cleanses I have had a huge surge in allergic reactions so of course I have to question whether or not being internally 'clean' has created this surge. It is almost clear cut that it has as I have not changed anything else.

But thanks for your insight, I appreciate it.

[QUOTE=MsMeaganMay]The thing that worries me the most about people healing their problems with cleansing though is that most usually add the "bad" foods back into their diet that they eliminated the first place...since they can "tolerate" them more. Alot of times though, they just end up in the same boat the started out in.[/QUOTE]

I wouldn't go through the stress and effort of weeks/months of cleansing to ruin it all at the end of it by going back to my old teenage diet just because I experience the illusion of being acne free one day.

Moreover, I have been on my current diet for such a long period of time that I can only crave foods that are consistent with it.

Nuts/seeds are my chocolate craving
Chinese Green tea is my coffee craving
Home-made fruit salads are my cake cravings
Lemon juice/water is my Sprite craving
Carrots are my biscuit craving

My body is so accustomed to this diet that it doesn't even trigger the taste for candy bars, junkfood, pasta, pizza etc. So once I finish my cleansing, I will continue with what I have been eating at the present time. I see no reason to change. I am now much better educated regarding all the chemicals/junk that is incorporated in society's quick fix foods and easy access foods to even think about consuming them.

Good luck with your Liver/Epsom cleanse, please be careful and take it easy Meagan...





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