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Well, how was everyone's weekend? I got the chance to go out of town, so I decided to take it :) ..which is why I haven't posted earlier than today. Sadly, I don't remember half of the things I said in my last one...I think most of it was just me rambling on about all kinds of things I've read :D . Making any progress Neca and Indy? One thing I mentioned in my last post was to sit down and write down all of the health problems you have. I did this a few months ago. I never really believed I had very many health problems...but when you sit down and think about it..I'm sure you can come up with quite a few ;) lol. Most of mine were minor...just things like keratosis pilaris (bumps on arms), slight dandruff, slow healing time of scars/open cuts etc., red itchy eyes, slight stomach problems, facial skin problems, circles under my eyes...etc. Then I went and looked up what cause these things..each one specifically, and wrote down that info beside them. Next I tried to make connections. This is helpful because sometimes you can point out where your deficiencies etc. may lie...and it can help point you in a more clear direction :) . Another thing to look up online is what the color/textures of your tongue indicates...this can also point you in a direction of what may be causing some of your health problems. Most people notice that when they clear up one health problem...they clear up another as well :) . Fingernails can also point out whether you experience nutritional deficiencies and such. As for the bowel cleansing and parasite kill..suprisingly I'm not quite finished! lol....I'm on my last week and a half of the kill and only have done the bowel cleanse for about 2-3 weeks..(I started a little before you Indy). This weekend I completely forgot to bring my paragone supplies with me and so had to go without it. I also didn't bring the bowel cleansing supplies because I wasnt sure whether I would have time to prepare everything. What shocked me though was what I "got rid" of this weekend :eek: ...it was unlike anything I've ever seen in my entire life. It wasn't MP...and I honestly have no idea what it was, I suppose I'll just have to go searching and look it up.

BTW Neca...If you ever open an Organic Kmart...I'll be your first customer :D . The health food store by me is pretty nice...but it doesnt meet ALL of my needs (I have lots of needs :D lol). There is also a bigger health food store that is semi-close to me..although the staff doesn't know much of anything related to their products, and their products are EXTREMELY overpriced compared to other stores/online shops. Sometimes the health food communities and people are a bit hidden and you just have to look for them. Try searching online for anything close in your area...or try contacting local health organizations/clubs/or even vitamin shops because alot of times they can give you numbers to organic co-ops in the area, or people who sell organic produce and other things straight out of their homes or have local meeting spots to buy/sell organic produce and health foods and such. Most of the people you meet at these are quite educated in health and nutrition and can provide you with lots of good info and great prices as well!


Also Neca, I thought I remember you asking others what face wash they use (if any...). I use Jason's Super-C Cleanser (they are a natural/organic company). I've used it for awhile...so I don't think it ever had any big impact on changing my skin...although it did reduce the redness caused by harsh acne scrubs and soaps. But it is a very gentle cleanser that removes dirt/makeup/anything else really well, and leaves your skin feeling really clean...so I would recommend it :)

Take care everyone!
[QUOTE=MsMeaganMay]Most of mine were minor...just things like keratosis pilaris (bumps on arms), slight dandruff, slow healing time of scars/open cuts etc., red itchy eyes, slight stomach problems, facial skin problems, circles under my eyes [/QUOTE]

MsMeagan, you listed your health problems in your last post; how many can you now say have been resolved through this process of correct diet and cleansing and how many are still present? This would be very interesting to know because I too have similar ones to yours so knowing the effectiveness of all the cleansing would be great. I think you make a real good point when you suggest listing all our health problems then seeing if we can find any connections regarding deficiencies etc.

The body is extremely intelligent and automatically produces warning signs that tell us there is something wrong that needs dealing with. You use the example of nails being indicators to certian nutritional deficincies. This is so very true, I had dark vertical lines about 2mm wide on quite a few of my nails for some time. I looked on the net to find out what this meant and found out that I had a Zinc deficiency. So I reviewed all the foods that were high in Zinc and whadyaknow...I hardly hardly ate any of them. So now when I go shopping I make sure to get loads of mushrooms, asparagus, pumpkin seeds (which are great for Paragone...even though you don't like them too much :p), FRESH parsley and green peas!

Nails are in fact amazing, lol. They also tells us whether we have Calcium deficiencies by producing those white dots things. I also remember one time, I banged my thumbnail real hard on something by accident and the nail cracked a little becoming really rough. I thought, well it's only a nail, it should heal itself in no time. HA! It was like that for over a year until I started taking Flaxseed oil. Suddenly, within the space of a few weeks, my nail began to grow back to it's full strength! Ever since, my healing of cuts/wounds etc. have really improved.

Now, if only people would treat acne on skin the same way that they treat those white spots on nails, plaque on teeth, body odour on skin etc. more people would experience better results. When you get B.O., do you just go to the nearest pharmacy to buy some antipersperant and cover yourself with the entire can? Disguise your smell with perfume? No, of course that isn't the right approach, you should shower! So why do we react to acne in a different way? It is obviously suggesting that the body is imbalanced somewhere.

[QUOTE=MsMeaganMay]BTW Neca...If you ever open an Organic Kmart...I'll be your first customer :D . The health food store by me is pretty nice...but it doesnt meet ALL of my needs (I have lots of needs :D lol).[/QUOTE]

Woohooo, thanks for the support I'll let you know when we open :D. MsMeaganMay, I could't stop cracking up when you said 'but it doesn't meet ALL my needs...I have lots of needs'. That was hilarious! But I agree, whenever I go shopping don't you find that whatever you buy there is always something wrong say with the ingredients, poor labelling or price etc. Plus I always find that I have to visit about 1000 different stores just to get all my items. There isn't one store where I can get all my stuff which is so frustrating and the fact that I don't drive is a real pain in the a$$. That's why I think the net is so useful. As you say, it is cheaper and you can buy everything while sitting comfortably in one place (lazy lazy, yes!). You know I was thinking more about this 'Organic Kmart' idea and asked myself: what was one of the biggest drawbacks to buying goods from highstreet supermarkets? Well, IMO it's probably because you don't know where the goods come from and how they are made. Sooo wouldn't it be great if you could have a supermarket right next to a farm where you let all the customers see how the food is grown and how organic it actually is? You could also have a instore deli that makes everything entirely infront of you. Say if you wanted Humous then someone could get the tahini, chick peas, lemon juice and garlic and mix it all together right in front of you. As virtually everything is produced on site, you would have virtually no transport costs and the foods would be much much cheaper as you wouldn't use all those terrible chemicals, pesticides etc. Also, it would be great to have almost all the goods sold with as limited amount of packaging as possible. Don't you find that so many goods you buy always seem to come overpackaged when a simple sack would do. Hmm this is getting more interesting the more I think about it...or should I say, the more I DREAM about it (lol).

[QUOTE=MsMeaganMay]I use Jason's Super-C Cleanser (they are a natural/organic company). I've used it for awhile...so I don't think it ever had any big impact on changing my skin...although it did reduce the redness caused by harsh acne scrubs and soaps.[/QUOTE]

Excellent, I will have a look at this brand as I am finding it really hard to get an all natural cleanser. Almost all the cleanser/soaps contain sooo many ridiculous chemicals. I think I will have to check out what's available online. What's the ingredients in the cleanser and does it foam up because I read somewhere that anything that foams up is an 'artificial product' made using special chemicals. Apparently 'safe' shampoos shouldn't foam?!

Well now onto the good news, my forehead is clear, my left cheek is clear, my chin is clear..the only parts that aren't are my nose and my right cheak. But these parts don't have whiteheads/blackheads, they just look bad due to those annoying flat red marks and a bit of sun discolouration. But at this point in time I really don't care, it is a great improvement compared to a few weeks back or a few months back or even a few years back (lol). My skin hasn't appeared this good for some time. This is definitely confidence boosting. Now I'm not sure exactly the cause but it is probably multifactorial. I think the cleansing is definitely sorting out my insides, I have still been doing the clay face mask but only a few times a week and am following my normal morning/evening regime (cetaphil, maybe a bit of exfoliation and then a bit of Neutrogena glycolic acid to clean out my sun discolouration). We will see how long this good state lasts though. I have yet to start ParaGONE but definitely will within the next few days when I get the chance to load up on fruits/vegs/nuts&seeds.

[QUOTE=MsMeaganMay]I also didn't bring the bowel cleansing supplies because I wasnt sure whether I would have time to prepare everything. What shocked me though was what I "got rid" of this weekend ...it was unlike anything I've ever seen in my entire life. It wasn't MP...and I honestly have no idea what it was, I suppose I'll just have to go searching and look it up.[/QUOTE]

LOL! MsMeagan what does MP stand for if I may ask, I think I can imagine what your getting at though. If it's not anything like you've ever seen in your entire life then I suggest you report it as an U.F.O., that stands for Unidentified Floating Object haha!!! Stop looking down please, I so don't wanna do ParaGONE now. But when I do do it there is no chance in hell I'm going to look down. I just gonna 'give and go' if you see what I mean. Why was it so shocking though, please don't tell me it was wormy-looking or anything like that because....well I will be lost for words. I also didn't take my supplies last weekend when I had to travel out of town aswell but it was the first time when I saw the real results of P&B shake cleansing. This is very strange, maybe when you give your body a rest it just chucks everything out all at once?

[QUOTE=indy_gal]It suprised me how eating the way I used to would affect me after being on a clean diet for 2 weeks. I got headaches, stomache aches, felt hungry all the time, etc... (And I have new breakouts starting).[/QUOTE]

Remember Indy_gal, that these cleanses are totally washing out your entire system of both GOOD and BAD bacteria. It is totally cleaning you out so anything you put back in should be as pure as possible for the time being. Your body really won't be able to cope with that junk food stuff straight after cleansing. It WILL definitely make you feel really ill. I was 'forced' (lol) to drink some wine last weekend and I could tell my body didn't like it. It just didn't digest easily. I think you definitely chose right not to start ParaGONE immediately after having a weekend on junk food. As MsMeagan says, do the shakes for a few days to get your body back to 'normal' then you should be good to go. I hate junk food so much, I wish it was never invented. Why does it have to be so easily available and so addictive grrr. You know something ironic: the reason why junk food and processed food was invented was to feed the troops in the American military during the Second World War. Now you would think the troops would need as nutritional a diet as possible with all that physical activity but no they are fed junk. From the government's point of view, the reason why they did it was because they knew the majority of them were destined to die regardless of what diet they consumed hence they thought why should they waste money supplying 'real food'....awful, depressing and corrupt don't ya think :(
[QUOTE=MsMeaganMay]I was just wondering about some things beyond diet. You say that you tend to have alot of oil production on your face....do you use fabric softener or dryer sheets? These cause alot of people to break out because they generally leave a layer of oil on peoples faces/bodies (most people also tend to use these softeners/sheets on their laundry loads of towels[/QUOTE]

Yeh, I was kinda hoping that with my improved diet, my oil production would decrease but it hasn't unfortunately. I do use fabric softener to wash my duvet covers and pillow cases, however I sleep on my back so my face hardly ever touches them. I just realised that I also stupidly use fabric softener when I was my bathroom towels which definitely can't be too good for drying my face after I have washed it. See the problem is what else can you use when you put your clothes, towels, covers etc. in the washing machine. All fabric softeners and washing powder are full of chemicals and I have yet to find a real alternative. But I think I will have to definitely start hand washing my towels. That will be a good start.

The thing is that it has been a long time since my nose has been clear of spots, it seems to almost always have blemishes, whiteheads or blackheads which is so frustrating. It is always very oily, my pores are quite large in this area and the flaps of the nose are very red. I just wish I could get rid of all this. A couple of derms told me this was sebhorreic dermatitis but I have used several treatments in the past and none have worked. I swear my body is trying to tell me something with regards to this. Hopefully the cleanses will resolve this matter. I'm not sure if this can be related to my occasional facial flushes though. If I get nervous, stressed out or do some physical activity I will have a rush of blotchiness to my face and it can last up to 30secs-60secs. You know when you try and drink say a glass of water really quickly and all in one and after you have drunk it you will this light head rush well I can even get the flushes then. It's so random, annoying and embarassing. I experienced this for the past three years now and it has got worst. I swear there is something wrong going on somewhere inside of me because this so shouldn't happen. It must be hormonal, I dunno? I even got my thryoid checked a few months back and all my results were perfect. I think the only way I can address this problem is probably homoepathy. Can any relate/experienced this?

Phew, am glad you guys are also experienced this increase in energy and am not the only one, lol. MsMeaganMay you seemed super-revitalised so I would agree that it's probably a good idea to stay off the honey as that would give you even MORE energy, lol :bouncing: ! You have really convinced me on this almond butter issue. I am obssessed/addicted to raw almonds and won't even tell you how many I can eat in one day. That's great you can eat an entire jar in one day and still have room for more food, I am definitely gonna get some on my next shopping trip. But what I don't get is why is it so expensive? What's involved in the process of making almond butter that requires such a high price and surely we can make it ourselves..just need a good blender or am I wrong?

[QUOTE=MsMeaganMay]they asked the general questions, one being how many bowel movements do I have each day. I said everyday, atleast 2-3. The doctor looked at me like I was crazy! Her exact words were "That is not good. If your having that many bowel movements a day, than too much is going out of you! Nobody should be eliminating that much." If that's the advice a doctor gives..well then give me a white coat and a thermometer and call me Doc, because I know that I can do much more good for her patients than she can![/QUOTE]

LOL! now that is hilarious! I swear doctors have totally lost it, they rely to much on material that has been force fed to them during their graduate years. It is a common fact that frequent bowel movements ARE good for the body and NECESSARY for it to function at an optimum level. What did you say to her in reply, I hope you showed her who was boss :)

MsMeagan when you recounted your story about the nurses complimenting you on your skin that really did bring a big smile to my face. To hear those words again but have been real great and encouraging. And you couldn't have summarised it better when you said 'it's what goes inside of me..not on me'! That is so true!

I love my salads and almost all the ingredients you listed in your post I use. The key to the perfect salad is the dressing and how much you use. The best dressings are lemon juice, garlic, olive oil, red onions and parsley all mixed together. I've never tried adding a juiced orange though but it does sound original lol. The veggie soup sounds great and will have to try it out one time. What's Butternut squash, I've never heard of it?

Ryan Phillippe, you've got the right approach with regards to cleansing/dieting. Basically, it's generally thought that cleansing of any form is not recommended to those under 17 years old. Your growing and your body is developing so putting it under a reasonably restricted diet and cleansing could damage it especially if your organs/hormones have not fully established themselves. Moreover, your immune system functioning at it's optimum level is key when you are young and growing.

So I would say for the time being give the cleansing a miss but as everyone has suggested, try to eat as healthy as possible. This means simply eating more fruit and veg, less fast food, more organic food. Do as much exercise as possible and try and sleep at consistent times...definitely don't follow our insomniac times :D If you needs any tips on suggestions etc. about how to resolve any skin problems then just post your questions...

Indy, you say you experienced a break-out today and a small headache? Has the headache passed since then? And how serious do you think the break out is? Only one large spot or several? Are you only doing 1 P&B shake a day, maybe you should up to 2-3 to get the toxins out quicker? I've been normal since starting, no real breakouts to note.

MsMeagan, after these cleanses I think I am definitely gonna cleanse my liver. I noticed in the ParaGONE box there is a leaflet with all the cleanses that the company makes. It says they have a liver cleanse so I may have a look into that because the olive oil/grapefruit version seems too heavy. I mean drinking that much Olive Oil in one go is a bit much for me. Plus I love Olive Oil and would probably be put off it if I drank it down in large amounts. If the sea veggies are adequate heavy metal cleansers then that is great, I'm gonna have to definitely purchase an entire ocean of these :)
[QUOTE=indy gal]My goodness, you ladies post novels! I feel like I never have the time.[/QUOTE]

LOL Indy! I am a guy, I really hope I don't come off sounding like a woman ha!

Well I also have to join the breakout group, yesterday I got quite a few mini-breakouts notably a few allergic reactions, whiteheads and a few red marks. The thing is this is to be expected as we are sweeping out all these parasites and toxins many old ones too but hopefully the breakouts will settle down within a few weeks.

[QUOTE=indy gal]was thinking that maybe, just maybe, I didn't have any in me. (Or is that just wishful thinking?)[/QUOTE]

Like parasites, we ALL have MP even if you still don't see any after 6 months of cleansing. MP is the build up of mucous matter on the walls of the intestines. Also called a layering of mucin or glycoproteins (made up of 20 amino acids and 50% carbohydrates) which are naturally and appropriately secreted by intestines as protection from acids and toxins. Medical research indicates that mucoid plaque is a normal self-defense measureónatural protection from unnatural toxins. So as it is naturally produced we all have it but its thickness will vary from person to person. I read about the 4-5 shakes thing from RICHARD ANDERSON, N.D., N.M.D. article called "The Key to Excellent Health: Cleansing the Colon".

[QUOTE=indy gal](Or is that just wishful thinking?)[/QUOTE]

Unfortunately yep :(

MsMeagan it's quite promising that you are now clear even without seeing any MP, it probably means that the parasite kill was the crucial factor is clearing your skin. I'm sure the bowel cleansing played its part too but maybe the parasites were the ones causing the acne? What do you think was the key element in clearing your skin? I'm just glad it means I won't have to spend weeks trying to get rid of MP as it seems like the entire process takes ages.

[QUOTE=MsMeaganMay]maybe it was "rosacea", maybe it was topicals, maybe it was my face wash, maybe it was my face scrubs...but maybe, it was the inside of me as well. What I do know now is that it is gone[/QUOTE]

OMG please tell me how you got rid of the facial flushing I am desperate to resolve this issue. Wow that is great, yours just went away? Do you remember when you stopped experiencing the flushes i.e. pre/post cleansing? I hate them so much! In my opinion, it's probably stressed related which naturally knocks the hormones out of balance causing strange blood flows. I don't think scrubs or face washes could cause it but maybe antibiotics or steroids which could create a leaky gut. I'm determined to sort this out though.

WOW that almond butter recipe seems great, thanks alot. It doesn't seem too difficult, just requires a bit of patience. LOL, you should so set up a 'MsMeaganMay's home-made almond butter' business. That would be great. But the hard part would be not actually eating the almond butter! A better idea would probably be to release your own 100% Organic Recipe Book. You have posted so many great recipes I'm sure it would be a best-seller :D .

[QUOTE=MsMeaganMay]Here is the liver cleansing salad recipe:
1 cup or more of carrot pulp, or grated carrot, or the carrot remains from juicing.
1 tablespoon each or more of olive oil and lemon juice, with raisins, seeds or spices (recommended to try ginger) to flavor.

Eat this for 7 days in a row (I'm pretty sure you caneat other things....but have this as one of your meals), no skipping any days .

Good Juice for the liver:
fresh-squeezed carrot/apple/parsley/beet juice as often as you can.[/QUOTE]

Now I'm really confused with regards to this 'Liver Cleansing Salad'. My salads always consist of loads of carrots, parsley, olive oil and lemon juice does that mean I have been cleansing my liver all my life, lol :confused: ? I don't use fresh-squeezed apple or beet juice though. This cleanse won't produce gallstones will it? It will just lightly clean the liver out.

Okie dok guys, speak to ya later.. :)
Yes..carrots in excess cause you to turn orange....just like too much coll. silver can make you turn a greyish color. So yes, moderation is good unless you just feel the urge to take on a different color, which would be pretty interesting :p , but anyhow... Neca, I'm sure jasons line isn't perfect..I know I haven't perfected my supply of body care and house care items as of yet...but one day I shall! Good job for doing your research! I think the reason it did help to calm the irritation on my face was because it does not contain SLS...which shouldn't be in anybodys washing products! As for Aubrey organics, I have never used their stuff, but only because my health food store still doesn't carry it! I do remember awhile back though seeing a post in a thread on the hair forum that I had replied to, that also included a post from Prometheus commenting on some hair products from Aubrey organics that were really good. So I'm sure she knows alot more about this product than I do :) I really think you should go and have some blood tests done Neca...they might help you out alot. Before starting diet, I had blood tests run for thyroid and everything else. My thyroid was normal, my hormones were a bit off, and my liver function was high. Once I started diet changes, it started clearing up with both of those. Even after I was having no problems as far as hormones or anything else...I still had acne, and I still had a slightly high liver function (and I was maintaining a pretty good diet). Once I started refining my diet to Prometheus's....after about 3 months is when I really started to see improvement. As I learned more, and time went on....things just started getting better at an even faster rate. What may have slowed me down a little in the beginning is that I had gotten a flu shot when starting diet, and I won't go on and on about how I don't care for vaccinations...but please, read up on what they contain. Anyhow, that along with a small course of antibiotics may have slowed down my healing rate a bit...but months later, my healing overall has speeded up. I've had many kinds of marks leftover on my entire body that range from slightly red to raised keloids...and they are all fading, and all are almost gone :) . It really makes you feel good when a keloid starts to disappear, especially because so many people never get rid of these.

Well, I'm not sure if that made too much sense, as it is 6 in the morning here, and I couldn't fall asleep until 3 last night :rolleyes: lol. A summary of my points that I was trying to make though would be that 1. go get a blood test 2. Even after my hormones were "balanced", I still had some acne..not as bad, but some. So I do believe that even if your hormones are balanced, you still need a good diet....diet will balance your hormones, but it will also heal and correct all of the other causes for your acne. 3. I don't care for vaccinations. If you believe that you truly must get them, atleast read information regarding them....and yes, they can affect your acne...atleast I believe so. 4. If you give your body what it needs, it can and will heal your scars as well.

LOL Prometheus...I think everything these days is considered to be "inherited". Our genes are getting blamed for everything :nono: .

Ok, enough talking for me...I better go and take a quick nap before I get started on my very busy schedule today :rolleyes: .
HEY GUYS!!!

Oh man, sorry I haven't posted in ages but my damn PC got infected with a virus and it has only just been fixed now. Everytime I turned it on and loaded Windows, my PC would automatically shutdown without even me pressing anything. Luckily none of my files were damaged, PHEW! Moral of the story...update your anti-virus scanners everyday LOL!

Anyway, I've just wadded through all 15 pages of your great posts that I have missed and wow you guys have written alot! I'm glad others have also joined us in the belief that acne can be healed naturally.

I'm currently on my 5-day Paragone break (along with Indy, I think?) since completing the first 15 day period of parasite killing. I've still been doing the P&B shakes twice a day. With regards to internal side-effects (i.e. stomach cramps etc.), I have to say I haven't experienced any which is great because I was concerned about this before starting the cleanses. I haven't seen any UFOs swimming around in my toilet either which is a relief and my loads have been large which hopefully means I am getting alot of MP/toxins out. I'm not sure whether any MP has been passed out as I don't usually check because as long as I am going to the toilet 2-3 times a day, it must be a good sign.

Now with regards to my skin, well...unfortunately no positives! Grrr, which is really annoying :( My skin is still uneven and poorly toned with several blemishes. My nose is still covered in blemishes which for some reason won't go away. I don't know what that means. And even worse, the thing I most feared about these cleanses, my food allergies have become even WORSE...like really bad! Before the cleanses, I was experiencing occasional rashes from foods maybe 8-9 times a week. Now when I get a reaction, it is huge. I would say about 200% or more the size they used to be and they really hurt. Before, when I used to get food reactions, my skin would produce a small rash (about 1inch/3cm long) and I would only notice it if I looked in the mirror. Now I can feel them on my face when they are stimulated and they sting. God I am praying this is only temporary and I have not shaken a hornets nest because there is no way I can live a normal day-to-day life with these. My original food allergies were reasonably controlled and less instrusive.

Meagan/Prometheus did you experience an overall increase in any allergies? Indy have you experienced any allergic reactions whilst on the cleanses? I'm quite concerned with regards to this. Prometheus do you remember some time back on a different post, you were telling me that I should try doing a cleanse and I replied saying that I feared the body would become TOO CLEAN and as a result increase the likelihood of allergies. I'm hoping I am wrong and my body just needs good bacteria to be replenished. Do you think that's the case? Will taking probiotics AFTER all the cleanses be worthwhile?

Now even though I haven't experienced great skin YET, I have not given up! It is still early days and I know I shouldn't say this Indy but I was reassured when I read that you were experiencing some breakouts because of these cleanses. Hopefully this means that both of us are pushing out the toxins and within a few weeks/month, our breakouts should be fewer and fewer. Are you still experiencing any breakouts?

Well in the meantime of tackling acne naturally from the inside, I am about to attack it from the outside. Remember in a previous post, I suggested Aubrey products which are as natural as possible...well I just purchased a ton of their products. From all natural shampoo to cleanser to toner to sunscreen to shaving cream etc. in fact I bought too much lol but I'm sure it will be beneficial in the long run. When they arrive in the post, I will let you all know what I think of them and whether or not they are good at fighting acne. One of the cleansers has blue-green algae extract which is supposedly great for clearing up acne. I hope so :)!


[QUOTE=indy_gal]
I was wondering about Cetaphil, and the fact that it has SLS as an ingredient. Isn't SLS supposed to be bad for you? Just wondering if anybody had any thoughts on it one way or the other.[/QUOTE]

I've just given up on Cetaphil, that stuff is useless. I don't know why I even used it for so long. Indy with regards to SLS, look at my really long post about 15 pages back (my last post) which describes all the chemical ingredients to watch out for and why. I think SLS is a definite NO-NO for acne sufferers! This is why I have switched to all natural.

Prometheus, you say you still haven't done a liver cleanse yet but you are prepping your liver with liver tonics and herbs etc. Could you tell me what are the exact names of these herbs as this is another direction I want to look at. I have just bought a bunch of Chinese herbal teas which are supposedly great for the liver. I also bought a tincture which is great for the liver AND I bought another tincture which has lots of ingredients like Walnut Cloves etc. that should help with acne too. Do you know anything about the effectiveness of these teas/tinctures? Are they any good?

[QUOTE=steveone86]

hi i want to start doing this cleanse. Can anyone recommend me a website to buy bentonite clay and Psyllium husks. and want brands are good? right now i am about to buy Natures sunshine HYDRATED bentonite clay is this good? thanks[/QUOTE]

Steveone, I'm glad you are thinking about the cleanses. Well funny you should ask which brands are good because this is probably one of the most key parts to the cleanse. The TYPE of BENTONITE CLAY that is used is very very important if you want the cleanses to work really well. There are several brands available including: Prime Yerba Great Plains, Sonne#9 (I think), Nature's Green Stuff, Terramin etc. Each brand has it's own version of Bentonite clay which is dependent on where it is actually dug from. Also alot of brands just label their product Bentonite and do not indicate exactly what type of Bentonite clay it is.

The Bentonite clay should either be Sodium montmorillonite Clay or Calcium montmorillonite Clay. If you look at the molecular structure of each, you'll see that they are very different. Sodium montmorillonite Clay molecules are shaped like pyramids, and have the ability to adsorb approximately 8-10 times their molecular weight in toxins and impurities.

Calcium montmorillonite's molecular structure is also very different - it is flat and rectangular, giving it a much larger surface area. Calcium montmorillonite Clay can 31 times it's molecular weight in toxins and impurities - more than 3 times the amount removed by Sodium montmorillonite Clay.

Therefore you should look for a brand that is made up of Calcium montmorillonite. This is why I asked Meagan if she knew what is contained in her Bentonite brand version of clay. Unfortunately it doesn't seem like Prime Yerba describe this. Meagan have you tried using a different brand to compare?

I am about to change my brand from generic Sodium montmorillonite to Calcium montmorillonite clay (called Pascalite) to see if I experience any change in my bowel movements/MP.

On a side-note, I've gotta tell you something which I discovered today. Remember how I wrote about using Bentonite clay as a mask and it didn't seem like it was working. Well I decided to mix up some hydrated form of Bentonite Clay and add it to Apple Cider Vinegar. I covered my entire face with this mixture and left it to dry for about 3-4 hours then washed it off. I originally only did this regime for 2-3 days and didn't experience any great results and gave up. For the last week I decided to start it up again and do one every day. WOW 7-8 days later I have NO blackheads on my nose! The Clay literally sucked out all my blackheads! Amazing! There are no products that can get rid of blackheads successfully without encouraging you to squeeze them out lightly. This stuff is incredible, obviously blackheads are much more stubborn versions of acne and are deeply buried beneath the skin which is the reason why it has taken over a week to get them naturally out. I'm really happy with this because I could never properly get my blackheads out with squeezing them and causing the pores to turn red. You guys should give it a try if you have blackheads. Try it aswell even if you have whiteheads because it also brings all of those nasty pimples that are stuck under the skin to the surface. But remember to do it for at least a week. Let me know if it works for you... :)





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