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It's Now or Never!
Mar 26, 2004
Well I have decided that nothing 'out there' will clear my acne; no medication, no chemical, no over the counter topical cream, no light box and no pill. [B]The ONLY thing that CAN cure my acne is ME![/B]

I have realised that all these 'cures' available to us are not cures, they are just counter-measures that react to the effects of acne. What is needed is something that will prevent the acne developing in the first place i.e. the removal of its roots.

If our bodies were capable of creating acne in the first place, then surely logic would suggest that they are also capable of CURING acne! This disease is created naturally/internally unlike diseases such as HIV/AIDS, MALARIA, TB etc.which attack us from the outside.

The point that needs to be made is that our bodies would actually be able to prevent acne from attacking us if they were operating at their optimum abilities. But they don't operate at their optimum abilities. WE NEED TO REALISE THIS. Our organs (more specifically the digestive system's) are blocked up with so many toxins and parasites that they no longer can effectively cleanse/clean themselves and thus resort to excreting a majority of these toxins on our skin.

To cure acne you need to create this optimum environment. When this has been created, your organs will take care of the acne themselves. It's the same with a car. You can constantly refill your car with petrol whenever it runs out of fuel but there will come a point when, regardless of the amount of fuel, it will not run efficiently due to it's internal parts not being serviced! Our internal parts are our organs and they occasionally require 'oiling' so they perform efficiently.

You of course have to start with an optimum diet. This has been outlined so many times on this board that we all know it inside out. I was originally so against many of these diet<->acne correlation theories proposed by Prometheus, SweetJade et. al because I have followed the exact diet outlined for nearly 10 years of my life. But still I have acne! That was my compliant. However, it is only now that I realise how important it is to, in parallel with an optimum diet, have a clean system to start with. We ALL have parasites (doesnít matter who you are) that starve our bodies of the vital nutrients which can make us feel cheated. That is what I felt, I have followed such a good diet for the majority of my life yet my acne has always been here. But the real reason is the need to remove these parasites, I never knew this.

Anyway I have done some research on how to go about cleansing my insides and would love all your input esp. Prometheus and SweetJade as you guys have a huge database of knowledge on this subject.

This is what I am planning on doing:

Bowel Cleanse (at least once a year) with parasite cleanse
Kidney Cleanse (duration is up to the person)
Liver Cleanse (repeat 6-10 times every 2-3 weeks) & Gallbladder Cleanse

This is how>The Regime

[B]FIRST STAGE>Bowel Cleanse:[/B]

-fasting on water, juices, raw fruits and vegetables

-Probiotics

-Psyllium husks AND Bentonite (green clay) added to warm water, fresh lemon and stevia. These shakes to be taken 2-3 times a day

-salt water enema {if that's your thing}

[B]SECOND STAGE>Parasite kill:[/B]

-10-20 drops of Clarkia 3 - 5 times a day, diluted with juice or water. Drunk before or after a meal, or on an empty stomach.

Clarkia which contains Black Walnut Hull, Wormwood and Cloves (fresh-ground from whole kitchen cloves).

Repeat Parasite kill 4 times each treatment lasting 2 weeks, with one week break.

[B]THIRD STAGE>Kidney Cleanse[/B]

-Freshly squeezed lemon juice added to a glass of water drunk several times throughout the day OR juice fasting.

-Maybe also Corn-silk tea, Parsley leaves/seeds or Root Tea

-Usually 2-6weeks long

[B]FOURTH STAGE>Liver Cleanse[/B] (Dr. Hulda's version)

-Stop all Parasite & Kidney Cleanses (these should have lasted at least 3weeks)

-Eat non-fat breakfast and lunch e.g. fruit, fruit juice, bread and honey (no butter or milk), baked potato or other vegetables with salt only. This allows the bile to build up and develop pressure in the liver. Higher pressure pushes out more stones.

-2pm> do not eat after this time as you could feel quite ill later if you do.

-Use following ingredients:
1/2 Cup of Olive Oil Extra Virgin (= 125ml),
3 lemons,
4 tablespoon EPSOM salts,
3 cups of water (=750ml)

(N.B. do not blend lemon juice with oil, drink some lemon juice from one cup and some oil from another cup).

IF ANYONE KNOWS THIS CLEANSE METHOD, COULD THEY PLEASE EXPLAIN THE METHOD AS FROM WHAT I HAVE READ IT DOES NOT MAKE MUCH SENSE.

-Chinese bitter aids as previously proposed by Prometheus: Coptis, Gentian(Lung-tan Tsao), Self-Heal, and Scutellaria.


Please please feel free to suggest any modifications/ideas to this regime or indicate any mistakes. This is the backbone to what I am planning on doing so obviously it is likely to undergo several changes. I am not totally sure about the Liver/Gallbladder cleanse as Hulda's version is quite confusing so suggestions on this would be great.

Finally, I am worried about the effects of these cleanses if any. I do have several food allergies so is there a chance that my body could become too clean after these cleanses then suddenly react to many more foods thus increasing my allergy numbers? Is there any stage which you think may not really benefit me and could actually leave out? Is any stage 'dangerous' such as the parasite kill?

I'm really determined to overhaul my acne as IíVE REALLY HAD ENOUGH. It's time to change. Hope the info here is useful guys, thanks...
Guess what? I just got back from the Natural Food store with a bad full of goodies:

1. Psyllium husks
2. Bentonite clay (liquid)
3. ParaGone
4. Some liver cleansing herbs (pill form)

The guy that works there talked my ear off explaining all the different cleansings there are out there and how good they are for you. He told me that if acne is my main concern, he recommended doing the bowel cleanse and the liver/kidney cleanses/flushes. He seemed to think that the parasite kill wasn't necessary. I told him that I am 26, that I did antibiotics long term when I was a teenager, then did Accutane, then went on birth control pills for 6 years. He said my liver could really use a cleansing, that I'll have lots of toxins to eliminate due to all the medication I used to take. (and I'm sure my prior eating habits didn't help none).

He highly recomended the Acidophilus to build up a healthy intestinal flora, but I didn't buy them because I was already spending a small fortune. I'll probably start the bowel cleanse on Monday, since we are going away for the weekend. Maybe I'll start the parasite cleanse one week into that.

I hope this goes well! I am looking forward to having it over and done with. Meagan, what have you been eating while doing this? (I'm sure you've already mentioned it elsewhere, but a reminder wouldn't hurt). Thanks!
[QUOTE=MsMeaganMay]No problem...I think when you've found something that truly works..you want to share it with everyone :) I just hope your post means that your starting the cleanses :) I'm interested to see how the cleanses will affect others as well.[/QUOTE]

Of course I am going to start the cleanses MsMeaganMay, after all this researching, posting and discussing I NEED to start them. I am just waiting for my bentonite clay/psyllium husks and parasite cleanse kit to arrive as international delivery takes some time. They should be here within the next few days fingers crossed. I will definitely let you know when they have arrived and have started them.

[QUOTE=MsMeaganMay]Plus, afterwords, you will be filled with knowledge to share with others...that's what I'm hoping for as well :) . Besides..with others doing the cleanses..it makes me feel a little bit more normal lol. Others think I'm a bit crazy for attempting these things! It's not like I want to see things coming out (well in some sense I do..)...but it does feel good knowing that your getting all of the bad out.[/QUOTE]

Oh I can so relate to this :) . When I was young I threw out my old junk food diet and all my friends thought I was mad too! Even my parents did too. They think if you don't eat junk food/pre-packaged food and only mother nature's food then you are a 'health freak'. This pharse is so ridiculous because it presumes that eating the 'right' food is abnormal! Unfortunately, this is how everyone thinks and they don't want to realise all the junk that is really contained in their foods.

[QUOTE=MsMeaganMay]Plus with others doing them..I think it gives myself, and everyone else more confidence to do them as well! But...acne is telling you something inside isn't right..and it's our job to fix it. So hopefully the bad effects of acne are having a good impact on our nutrition and lifestyle for now and in the longrun. I know that I am SO glad I changed my diet around and am doing cleanses. I look and feel so much better than I have previously in my life....my only regret is that I knew about everything sooner. Take care :wave: .[/QUOTE]

M.M.M. this is soooo very true. We are all in the same boat and it is great how we can relate to eachother's experiences and learn from them. This forum has definitely given me inspiration to try to get to the bottom of this terrible disease. And yes at least we can gain from the positive impact of following a good diet/lifestyle in the future.

[QUOTE=prometheus]As well as Meagan, I am also very eager to hear how it goes for you Neca! So I will definitely check back. Yea forget about the probiotics. Your body has everything it needs. All you have to do is give it the right environment.[/QUOTE]

Great Prometheus, please do stay in touch as much as you can. I hope everything goes well for you :p
Erica,

I admit that I was really skeptical at first when I read about cleansings. Why don't you search for some information outside of these boards? You'll find a lot of good info, and maybe it won't seem so odd afterall. Just a suggestion.

Personally, I am trying this because a)I think it makes sense that our bodies are full of toxins from medication and poor dietary habits, and therefore, could use a good cleansing b)I don't want to take any more medication for my acne, and topicals are not cutting it by themselves. I need something else to get the results I am looking for, and I want it to be a healthy approach.

This is my 4th day of the bowel cleanse, and I haven't felt sick at all. A little constipated the first day, but smooth sailing since then. When I went into the health food store and asked where the bentonite clay was, the guy knew all about it. He was very knowledgable about different types of cleansings out there, and he had personally done them, which made me feel more reassured (the same way that reading what Meagan, Prometheus, and Neca experience reassures me).

I am a newbie to all this myself, so I'm probably not the best person to give you advice. But, here is what I am doing:

I am mixing 1 tablespoon of liquid bentonite and 1 tablespoon of psyllium husks in a glass with warm water. (Warming up the water on the stovetop has made this easier for me to drink, by the way). The first day I used less clay and only drank one that day because I was scared I would feel sick. 24 hours later, when I realized I was perfectly fine I started using the full tbsp. and taking this twice a day. I guess the only instructions that I am aware of are: Drink plenty of water throughout the day and take the PB shake beverage at least 1 hour before/after eating. I do one upon waking up in the morning and one before going to bed at night.

For the past month I have been maintaining a healthier diet, having eliminated bad carbs for the most part. Now I basically eat: Meat (mainly lamb, pork or chicken/turkey), fish, nuts (mainly almonds, not salted), fruit, veggies, and high fiber cereal in the morning with almond milk. For most people the diet itself is a huge sacrifice. No more convenience food, no Easter candy. *sigh*

Should you give this a try? That is for you to decide. If you have any medical conditions you may want to check with a doctor first. Me, I am healthy as a horse... except for my acne.
[quote]Prometheus, I do have a question for you as well! I've thought about it before, just not enough to remember to ever ask it. Now, I know that kombu and other sea vegetables contain alot of iodine....which seemed to be a problem with other acne sufferers when taking multi vit's which contained iodine. But, I know myself and others on acne boards have eaten kombu, kelp etc. without any problems. Do you think that could pose a problem for anyone? Or possibly it is just the multi vit? Anyhow, there is another board which seems to host quite a few acne friendly recipes and such, and I, along with others, have posted about kombu...but I don't want to suggest too much of it if it may cause problems for others. Hmmm...just something I was curious about![/quote]

Hey Meagan..yea studies show that iodine irritates skin as it is excreted. This could, and has been shown to, aggravate breakouts. It really isn't anything to be concerned about when acne is not an issue. Iodine is good for you and there are too many beneficial nutrients in seaweeds to trash them because of the possible irritating effect of iodine. Just my opinion :). Okinawans have awesome skin.

[quote] Is there some kind of dr. or someone that can supervise me if I do all these flushes? i don't really trust myself to do everything right and I want to make sure they won't interfere with othe rmedications/supplements I am taking.[/quote]

Lacy, yes any doctor can supervise this but most will not understand the importance or will laugh at you and try to talk you out of it. The doctor who prescribed the medication is the one you should ask regarding whether or not a cleanse will itnerfere with it. You may want to seek out an alternative doctor, practitioner, or a chiropracter...just make sure they know what they are doing. The thing is, medications and supplements can interfere with cleanses and nutrition.


[quote]I just thought of another question. "Raw" nuts is mentioned over and over again. Why is it harmful to eat roasted or salted almonds? It is better to eat no nuts unless they are raw, or are organic, roasted, Tamari almonds ok?

thanks![/quote]

Hip, Yes Indy is right. Rancid oils are one of the things you will probably have to eliminate in order to achieve clear skin through diet. This includes any oil that is heated/cooked/refined except saturated fats. Tamari almonds sometimes contain wheat and thus gluten which is another protein acne sufferers find to be a problem.

[quote]Thank you for your response. i have another question can i just buy the bowel detox pills? i found a site that is selling bowel detox supplements and it has psyllium husk and bentonite clay in it. can i use this instead?[/quote]

Steve, Yes i agree with indy. I don't see how they can fit enough, a therapeutic amount of bentonite clay into a capsule. Better, and probably cheaper, to make it yourself.

Take care
Well there you are Prometheus! Good to see you again! Just making sure you haven't disappeared ;) ..same with Neca...where did you go? Thanks for answering my question though :) . Seaweed does have some awesome benefits, and I seem to have acquired quite a taste for it (my tastes and preferences seem to keep getting odder by the day :D ). But, I was weary to suggest it to a few who asked the question bc they had previously had bad experiences with multi vitamins, though I honestly think it was most likely the multi vit. itself. By the way, have you seen the construction workers at your health food store lately? :D I still can't get over that story. We need some manly men around here like that! lol I can only name one guy whom I've known that will drink wheatgrass, the others can't seem to get past the taste :confused: , I find it to be quite good!

Indy, avocadoes are wonderful for you! I have never met an acne sufferer who had problems with avocadoes. A low in sugar fruit, with good fats, quite tasty and filling as well. They are really a wonderful food, and even Perricone advises acne sufferers to eat them in his book "The Perricone Prescription". So yes, eat as many as you like! Plus they are a higher cal food, which is something you are probably looking for. As for the parasite kill causing a breakout, it very well could be. I think the reason I suffered so much with feeling bad the first week was because I wasnt including the P&B shakes, which probably would have helped. Not to mention I was going and going without much rest, so it was just a hectic week for my body.

As for eating raw nuts and seeds...yes, bad oils are a no-no :nono: . Many people think they have problems with nuts and seeds, when alot of times its the oil that is on them that they have the problem with.

For the person who asked about just buying the capsules, I would just buy the psyllium husks and liquid bentonite. It runs about 10$ cheaper where I live, and I've read that with the capsules you must take quite a few a day to even come close to being equivalent to the P&B shakes. So go out and buy some, and drink up :) The taste may shock you the first time :eek: , or atleast I never cared for it.
HEY GUYS!!!

Oh man, sorry I haven't posted in ages but my damn PC got infected with a virus and it has only just been fixed now. Everytime I turned it on and loaded Windows, my PC would automatically shutdown without even me pressing anything. Luckily none of my files were damaged, PHEW! Moral of the story...update your anti-virus scanners everyday LOL!

Anyway, I've just wadded through all 15 pages of your great posts that I have missed and wow you guys have written alot! I'm glad others have also joined us in the belief that acne can be healed naturally.

I'm currently on my 5-day Paragone break (along with Indy, I think?) since completing the first 15 day period of parasite killing. I've still been doing the P&B shakes twice a day. With regards to internal side-effects (i.e. stomach cramps etc.), I have to say I haven't experienced any which is great because I was concerned about this before starting the cleanses. I haven't seen any UFOs swimming around in my toilet either which is a relief and my loads have been large which hopefully means I am getting alot of MP/toxins out. I'm not sure whether any MP has been passed out as I don't usually check because as long as I am going to the toilet 2-3 times a day, it must be a good sign.

Now with regards to my skin, well...unfortunately no positives! Grrr, which is really annoying :( My skin is still uneven and poorly toned with several blemishes. My nose is still covered in blemishes which for some reason won't go away. I don't know what that means. And even worse, the thing I most feared about these cleanses, my food allergies have become even WORSE...like really bad! Before the cleanses, I was experiencing occasional rashes from foods maybe 8-9 times a week. Now when I get a reaction, it is huge. I would say about 200% or more the size they used to be and they really hurt. Before, when I used to get food reactions, my skin would produce a small rash (about 1inch/3cm long) and I would only notice it if I looked in the mirror. Now I can feel them on my face when they are stimulated and they sting. God I am praying this is only temporary and I have not shaken a hornets nest because there is no way I can live a normal day-to-day life with these. My original food allergies were reasonably controlled and less instrusive.

Meagan/Prometheus did you experience an overall increase in any allergies? Indy have you experienced any allergic reactions whilst on the cleanses? I'm quite concerned with regards to this. Prometheus do you remember some time back on a different post, you were telling me that I should try doing a cleanse and I replied saying that I feared the body would become TOO CLEAN and as a result increase the likelihood of allergies. I'm hoping I am wrong and my body just needs good bacteria to be replenished. Do you think that's the case? Will taking probiotics AFTER all the cleanses be worthwhile?

Now even though I haven't experienced great skin YET, I have not given up! It is still early days and I know I shouldn't say this Indy but I was reassured when I read that you were experiencing some breakouts because of these cleanses. Hopefully this means that both of us are pushing out the toxins and within a few weeks/month, our breakouts should be fewer and fewer. Are you still experiencing any breakouts?

Well in the meantime of tackling acne naturally from the inside, I am about to attack it from the outside. Remember in a previous post, I suggested Aubrey products which are as natural as possible...well I just purchased a ton of their products. From all natural shampoo to cleanser to toner to sunscreen to shaving cream etc. in fact I bought too much lol but I'm sure it will be beneficial in the long run. When they arrive in the post, I will let you all know what I think of them and whether or not they are good at fighting acne. One of the cleansers has blue-green algae extract which is supposedly great for clearing up acne. I hope so :)!


[QUOTE=indy_gal]
I was wondering about Cetaphil, and the fact that it has SLS as an ingredient. Isn't SLS supposed to be bad for you? Just wondering if anybody had any thoughts on it one way or the other.[/QUOTE]

I've just given up on Cetaphil, that stuff is useless. I don't know why I even used it for so long. Indy with regards to SLS, look at my really long post about 15 pages back (my last post) which describes all the chemical ingredients to watch out for and why. I think SLS is a definite NO-NO for acne sufferers! This is why I have switched to all natural.

Prometheus, you say you still haven't done a liver cleanse yet but you are prepping your liver with liver tonics and herbs etc. Could you tell me what are the exact names of these herbs as this is another direction I want to look at. I have just bought a bunch of Chinese herbal teas which are supposedly great for the liver. I also bought a tincture which is great for the liver AND I bought another tincture which has lots of ingredients like Walnut Cloves etc. that should help with acne too. Do you know anything about the effectiveness of these teas/tinctures? Are they any good?

[QUOTE=steveone86]

hi i want to start doing this cleanse. Can anyone recommend me a website to buy bentonite clay and Psyllium husks. and want brands are good? right now i am about to buy Natures sunshine HYDRATED bentonite clay is this good? thanks[/QUOTE]

Steveone, I'm glad you are thinking about the cleanses. Well funny you should ask which brands are good because this is probably one of the most key parts to the cleanse. The TYPE of BENTONITE CLAY that is used is very very important if you want the cleanses to work really well. There are several brands available including: Prime Yerba Great Plains, Sonne#9 (I think), Nature's Green Stuff, Terramin etc. Each brand has it's own version of Bentonite clay which is dependent on where it is actually dug from. Also alot of brands just label their product Bentonite and do not indicate exactly what type of Bentonite clay it is.

The Bentonite clay should either be Sodium montmorillonite Clay or Calcium montmorillonite Clay. If you look at the molecular structure of each, you'll see that they are very different. Sodium montmorillonite Clay molecules are shaped like pyramids, and have the ability to adsorb approximately 8-10 times their molecular weight in toxins and impurities.

Calcium montmorillonite's molecular structure is also very different - it is flat and rectangular, giving it a much larger surface area. Calcium montmorillonite Clay can 31 times it's molecular weight in toxins and impurities - more than 3 times the amount removed by Sodium montmorillonite Clay.

Therefore you should look for a brand that is made up of Calcium montmorillonite. This is why I asked Meagan if she knew what is contained in her Bentonite brand version of clay. Unfortunately it doesn't seem like Prime Yerba describe this. Meagan have you tried using a different brand to compare?

I am about to change my brand from generic Sodium montmorillonite to Calcium montmorillonite clay (called Pascalite) to see if I experience any change in my bowel movements/MP.

On a side-note, I've gotta tell you something which I discovered today. Remember how I wrote about using Bentonite clay as a mask and it didn't seem like it was working. Well I decided to mix up some hydrated form of Bentonite Clay and add it to Apple Cider Vinegar. I covered my entire face with this mixture and left it to dry for about 3-4 hours then washed it off. I originally only did this regime for 2-3 days and didn't experience any great results and gave up. For the last week I decided to start it up again and do one every day. WOW 7-8 days later I have NO blackheads on my nose! The Clay literally sucked out all my blackheads! Amazing! There are no products that can get rid of blackheads successfully without encouraging you to squeeze them out lightly. This stuff is incredible, obviously blackheads are much more stubborn versions of acne and are deeply buried beneath the skin which is the reason why it has taken over a week to get them naturally out. I'm really happy with this because I could never properly get my blackheads out with squeezing them and causing the pores to turn red. You guys should give it a try if you have blackheads. Try it aswell even if you have whiteheads because it also brings all of those nasty pimples that are stuck under the skin to the surface. But remember to do it for at least a week. Let me know if it works for you... :)
Yes Meagan brings up an important point. I understand you have tried changing your diet, Ratman. The thing is, you have to change your diet to do a cleanse. You can't just go out and buy psyllium husk and bentonite, take them, and cleanse anything without changing your diet. For instance, the purpose of a bowel cleanse is to clean the bowel, to move particles through, to absorb toxins, and help the bowel heal. All of this aids in nutritional uptake when food is reintroduced. In order to do a bowel cleanse, you can't eat meat. You can't eat peanut butter. You can't take tylenols or medications and you can't eat a lot of cooked vegetables. What most people do for a bowel cleanse is fast on juice for the first part, and then introduce fruits and then lightly cooked or raw vegetables. They take psyllium husk to move out the old food particles and bentonite clay to absorb toxins deposited in the bowel from the fast or that are inside the bowel. This effectively cleans the bowel. If you take psyllium husk and still eat a regular diet (three cooked meals a day), all you are doing is adding fiber to your diet, which will improve regularity, but it is not a cleanse. Further all the bentonite clay does at that point is absorb nutrients from the food you eat.

So you have to change your diet. Cleanses will speed up visual improvements from any diet you are following...but all you need to do to get rid of acne is get rid of what causes acne in your diet. All diets are not equal. Considering you have taken antibiotics and accutane your rate of healing is not expected to be quick and a bowel cleanse will really help you out. Since accutane can affect your oil glands for several years or even permanently, it may take several years for you to see a complete improvement with diet. But you should see a lot of improvement from completely eliminating the following:

hydrogenated oils
cane sugar, high fructose corn syrup, arficial sweeteners, refined sugars
cooked/heated/refined oils
fortified/enriched foods
bad vitamins (just get rid of the vitamins if you aren't sure)
denatured grain products
refined grain products
grain products containing gluten
dairy and anything containing dairy
nonorganic meats, luncheon meats, pork and beef
cooked eggs
drugs and medications, including tylenol, advil and especially antibiotics or birth control

This worked for me in two months. It works for most people in two months, but it will work for anyone if given enough time. There is a diet called the Wai diet that acne sufferers find relief with. Anoldone posts on here and he has healed his acne with this diet. Wai maintains that it is the cooked proteins that affect people with acne. I believe that is a big part of it. You still have to get rid of all of these ingredients on the Wai diet.

[quote]I'm still confused as to what I need to do. Whether I have to do a bowel cleanse or liver cleanse. How long the entire process takes for all these cleanses. And what exactly I should be buying. I'll probably create a post a few days from now asking these questions before I get started on any of this. But before I do that I just want to know if these cleanses are really clearing up your acne.[/quote]

Bowel cleanses take up to two weeks, depending on what you want to achieve. No more than two weeks, unless you are in a full blown fast, in which case you want to continue taking some psyllium and bentonite for the duration of the fast to prevent toxic shock. It doesn't totally eliminate the risk for shock and that is why people incorperate enemas into their fast. I suffered from shock when I reintroduced food back from a fast I was on, which is why I do not recommend long fasts to people unless it is for spiritual reasons. Before you do anything you do a bowel cleanse. A liver cleanse is achieved through a change in diet. A liver flush is a different animal, and that is something a lot of people see relief from numerous ailments through. That is done over a period of weeks until a certain amount of liver "stones" are removed. Before doing a liver flush it is usually recommended that you do a parasite kill, to kill any parasites that may be in your liver. They dont' belong in the liver or other organs, btw. The only reason they get in your liver is through the ingestion of solvents. Autopsies of people with organ cancers have organs infested with parasites. I believe these parasites do not just migrate to damaged tissues but actually cause cancer through the release of their growth hormones and this is how cancer "spreads" because parasites spread. Hulda Clark writes about this, but that is getting aside from the issue. The point is all of these require an appropriate change in diet. If you are willing to do so, you will see results.
[QUOTE=Prometheus]fasting is not something I recommend to other people[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Prometheus] I do not recommend fasts which is why I do not post much about the experience or the details of its "cleansing" benefits, and this is why you don't see many posts from me about it.[/QUOTE]

Prometheus I just found your old thread, 'Heal Your Acne From The Inside', so now I can respond to your previous post. I couldn't find your original thread before but luckily someone has just posted on it bringing it to the top of the pile.

Anyway, one of the main reasons that spured my research into cleansing and more specifically Intestinal/Bowel cleansing using Bentonite Clay/Psyllium was that thread you made. The first direction you proposed was:

[QUOTE=Prometheus]1. Cleanse your intestines: PLEASE CONTACT YOUR DOCTOR BEFORE OR DURING ANY CLEANSE. Your intestines are what regulates toxin removal, nutrient absoption, and good bacteria balance. Any unecessary back up in the intestine creates an extra load for your other vital organs, such as the other toxin removal organs;the liver and kidneys. soak 1 teaspoon to 1 tablespoon of FOOD GRADE (approved for internal use) Bentonite clay in 1 cup of filtered water for 12 hours. Start soaking in the morning. Then add Ĺ to 1 tablespoon of psyllium husks or plantago seeds to the clay mixture and mix well. Drink and eat the whole cup of mixture immediately and then followed by 1 cup of warm water before bedtime. Drink at least 8 cups of warm water a day including 2 cups first thing in the morning. Repeat the procedure until the stool becomes normal (usually 1 to 2 weeks), when no more intestinal cloggings are coming out. Follow a healthy intestine diet by eating plenty of fruits and vegetables and avoiding refined grains, refined sugars, eggs, wheat gluten, and dairy.[/QUOTE]

This quite clearly advises people to do a fast/cleanse. Moreover, the fact that you listed it first in your directions gave me the impression it was of reasonably high importance to carry out.

[QUOTE=Prometheus]I don't emphasize "cleanses" as much as I do diet[/QUOTE]

I agree, you try to push the diet aspect much more but if you don't recommend fasts/cleanses why include it in your list? IMO, repairing the intestinal tract is vitally important if you are about to adopt the 'proper diet' that we all propose.

Just out of curiosity, with regards to the avoid list that you follow:

Dairy
Gluten
Hydrogenated oils
heated or cooked or refined oils
cooked eggs
denatured or refined grains
non organic meats (including farm raised fish), luncheon meats, beef and pork
drugs and medications especially including tylenol, birth control, antibiotics
alcohol
cane sugar, refined or denatured sugars especially high fructose corn syrup
artificial things (including bad supplements)

how did you come across this list? Did you read it specifically from one source or was it one you constructed yourself either from the accumulation of sources or just what personally worked best for your body?
You guys are funny, I guess you didn't read this in my previous post or interpreted it wrongly which is my fault:

[QUOTE=Neca]Well looking back at my last post, it is quite amusing how negative I was. I guess I was in such a bad mood or upset over the fact that my allergies seemed to be getting worse. So if anyone who read that post considering doing cleansing/dieting, I would say it is probably better to disregard it.[/QUOTE]

When I said "disregard it" I hope everyone understood that I was referring to disregarding my post and not to disregarding cleansing, lol! Sorry I should have structured that sentence better, I will put a little EDIT footnote on that post.

I feel great, am really really happy about how my skin is looking as it is about 90%-100% acne-free and am now currently working on my allergies and temporary flushing. These also seem to be improving but I don't want to comment too much in case it all comes back. I'm gonna give it some time.

[B]Hipmama[/B], that's excellent to hear you are doing well! I am so very happy for it! Wow fourth week already on cleansing and seems like you are sticking to your diet really well. That's so cool too that the clay mask is working great. What is the exact type of clay that you are using? Bentonite Calcium or Sodium Montmorillonite. The great the quality/type of clay used, the more minerals it will have and thus the greater absorption of toxins :D . May I suggest you have a look into Nature's Green Stuff clay.

Nature's Green Stuff is Calcium Bentonite Clay and apparently these are the benefits:

-Detoxification of the digestive system (the absorptive action of clay pulls contaminants from the body)
-Bacterial, organic and non-organic toxicity removal
-Elimination of internal parasites (digestive tracts)
-Immune System Support (clay used internally stimulates the body's elimination system and supports organ function)
-Fixes free oxygen in the blood stream (occurs once the liver has been restored to full function)
-Increases T-cell count
-Fights free radicals
-Trace mineral supplement
-Liver Detoxification
-Relieves Stomach Aches
-Alkalizing agent in the body
-To assist in the removal of toxic substances in the digestive system
-Bacterial food poisoning, organic and non-organic toxicity
-To cleanse the colon and promote proper bacterial balance in the intestines
-Removal of heavy metals and recovery from chemical therapies and radiation
-Reduction of free radical damage (thus anti-aging)
-Improved immune system function
-Improved cellular respiration

I have to say that since switching to this brand of clay, I have experienced so many of these benefits. They are much more apparent than when I used the another brand of clay. I've got loads more facts/info on this clay but need to dig them up.

[QUOTE=euro18]I have found out that certain fruits vegetables are too high on the glycemic index for the body to handle the insulin spikes and are thus better avoided.[/QUOTE]

Hi [B]Euro[/B], thanks for your advice. When I began really research acne several years ago, I used to consider the Glycemic Index (G.I.) of high importance. However, now I hardly think it is of such importance. I think it only really can come into effect if you are consuming a high quantity of a certain food. If you eat an entire watermelon in one day then yes you may experience insulin spiking. On the other hand, if you eat a slice or two of watermelon then the health benefits (vitamins) you will gain is likely to be extremely important. Moreover, your insulin levels won't be effected.

Our bodies have been developed to eat natural, organic produce which should be balanced. Eating anything in high quantities is obviously going to have some sort of negative effect on your body. You just need to assume some common sense and eat everything in the correct portions.

There are several further reasons why the G.I. ain't that great. Firstly, because the figures vary so much depending on which sources you read. The names on the index are pretty generic e.g "orange", "apple". There are so many varieties of oranges and apples, some are sweeter than the others, are grown in different climates and grown with different substances (natural/artificial).

Secondly, we are all different therefore one person have a broad range of tolerances regarding foods while another person can be greatly affected by specific foods. So a number on a chart can be meaningless in this case.

Finally, there are so many other factors that can increase the chance of tipping your insulin spikes like stress, frequency of exercise, environment, drugs, smoking etc.

IMO, to base your entire diet on a chart of numbers that have so many external factors is quite risky. I would say if you follow the diet that Prometheus proposes, assume a balance in this diet, eat organic produce, exercise frequently and undergo occasional fasts then you will not only experience great skin but your overall health will be awesome.

[QUOTE=Ratman]Also I'm not sure if any of these promote bowel movement. One thing that seems to be certain about cleansing is that you need to have good bowel movement to remove the toxins, and normally my bowel movement is.....not good....at all. So do I need to be drinking a lot of apple juice or something during this?[/QUOTE]

[B]Ratman[/B], lol did you read any of the post regarding bowel cleansing on this thread vis-a-vis Bentonite clay and Psyllium husks. You will find all the info already posted.
[QUOTE=MsMeaganMay]Well there you are Prometheus! Good to see you again! Just making sure you haven't disappeared ;) ..same with Neca...where did you go? Thanks for answering my question though :) . Seaweed does have some awesome benefits, and I seem to have acquired quite a taste for it (my tastes and preferences seem to keep getting odder by the day :D ). But, I was weary to suggest it to a few who asked the question bc they had previously had bad experiences with multi vitamins, though I honestly think it was most likely the multi vit. itself. By the way, have you seen the construction workers at your health food store lately? :D I still can't get over that story. We need some manly men around here like that! lol I can only name one guy whom I've known that will drink wheatgrass, the others can't seem to get past the taste :confused: , I find it to be quite good!
what if you roast your own nuts at home with olive oil? i personally prefer the taste of roasted almonds and other nuts roasted to raw.....i can leave out the salt but i love the roasted flavor!

Indy, avocadoes are wonderful for you! I have never met an acne sufferer who had problems with avocadoes. A low in sugar fruit, with good fats, quite tasty and filling as well. They are really a wonderful food, and even Perricone advises acne sufferers to eat them in his book "The Perricone Prescription". So yes, eat as many as you like! Plus they are a higher cal food, which is something you are probably looking for. As for the parasite kill causing a breakout, it very well could be. I think the reason I suffered so much with feeling bad the first week was because I wasnt including the P&B shakes, which probably would have helped. Not to mention I was going and going without much rest, so it was just a hectic week for my body.

As for eating raw nuts and seeds...yes, bad oils are a no-no :nono: . Many people think they have problems with nuts and seeds, when alot of times its the oil that is on them that they have the problem with.

For the person who asked about just buying the capsules, I would just buy the psyllium husks and liquid bentonite. It runs about 10$ cheaper where I live, and I've read that with the capsules you must take quite a few a day to even come close to being equivalent to the P&B shakes. So go out and buy some, and drink up :) The taste may shock you the first time :eek: , or atleast I never cared for it.[/QUOTE]





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