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here is a link to the thread with the food list by johnsmith:

http://www.healthboards.com/boards/showthread.php?p=1171387&highlight=food#post1171387

if the link doesn't work when you click on it, copy and paste it into your address broswer.

below is a list of food i eat. the hardest things is not WHAT to eat, but HOW to prepare/cook it so that it tastes good. for this i highly recommed recipe web sites and experimenting on your own.

-mixed green salads (i'll throw in a different combo of veggies each time, for ex. avocado, tomato, asparagus, olives, radishes, celery, raw pine nuts, raw sunflower seeds)
-for dressing i simply use a combo of extra virgin olive oil and lemon juice or balsamic or white wine vinegar. you can find a ton of homemade dressings on the internet. store bought stuff usually has a lot of sugar and preservatives.
-SEA salt. NOT salt that is FORTIFIED with iodine. i've read iodine can make acne worse, but i think getting it from fortified sources is what makes it bad. again, i think getting vitamins from food is much, much better than getting it from a pill.
-broccoli, spinach, collard greens, green beans, artichoke, yellow squash, zuccini, asparagus
-brown rice
-black beans, lentils, adzuki beans (NOT from a can, the raw stuff you have soak overnight, etc)
-RAW, UNroasted, UNsalted sunflower seeds, almonds, pine nuts.
-garlic! i love garlic. either raw or cooked adds a lot of flavor to dishes
-spices (oregano, basil, red pepper, cumin, etc). i do use quite a bit of dried spices in some of the dishes i prepare. try to buy organic ones that aren't fortified with any preservatives or vitamins.
-fruits. i don't eat that many fruits, but when i do my favs are apples, grapfruit, peaches, berries. stay away from high GI fruits like watermelon. if your not sure about the GI of certain foods you can do an internet search on "[food] and glycemic index." a ton of sites have info about GI and foods.
-meat and diary: i only eat chicken on occasion and i don't like meat or fish. if you are a big meat eater buy organic. i think meat and dairy is only bad because of all the crap (anitibiotics, hormones) they give to the animals, which then effects us when we eat it. so eat sparingly or by organic.

unfortunately, some "natural" foods are common acne culprits
on many message boards i've read how some people specifically have found their acne causing food to be bannanas, potatoes, carrots, and peanuts. so these are "natural" foods that should be avoided or eaten in moderation. i'm assuming this is because most of these foods are HIGH on the glycemic index. for more info about this do an internet search for "Acne foods and Glycemic Index"
Excellent post, and very true!! Of course, the people who could really benefit from trying out a serious change in diet are often the people most resistant to doing it. There will always be non-believers.

My thoughts are, if you come to an acne boards looking for a solution to your acne problem, be open to try what people say works. Why is it that so many people toss diet aside claiming "diet has no affect whatsoever..." without giving it an honest try?

I am 26 and I did not make the connection to what a healthy diet was and how profound an effect it would have on my skin until this year. I only wish I had known to give it a try before doing accutane. I believe that Accutane is the main cause I have such horrible eyesight and constant chapped lips.

Congrats to all of you who have determined how diet affects your skin!
I would have agreed with your post before I took accutane, but I beg to differ. Before I took accutane, I thought food was the culprit, but it wasn't. While I was on accutane and even after, I was and still am able to eat anything without breaking out. If you have active acne, it's really hard to pin-point the cause when no matter what you do, you still breakout. Don't deprive yourself of food and vitamins. Now unless you know for a FACT that you are indeed allergic to a particular food group or a specific food, don't take it. There are health food specialists out there, go see one. Pizza, fast food, junk food, etc... are labeled unhealthy foods and they do not trigger your acne unless your allergic to it. It's common knowledge that they're bad for you, especially if you eat them on a daily basis. Do you know how many people engage in bad eating habits? 80%+ (just throwing a figure out there) of the people in the United States would have acne.

As for the poster who asked for internet references - don't bother. The internet is a horrible source to check up causes for acne. Type any word along with acne and you'll get tons of pages. Try it. And most of these sites are fakes trying to sell their products. Anybody can make a site and scam people and call themselves doctors.

I'm not trying to knock your theory/hypothesis, but we all know what are good/bad foods. I think that the cause and the culprit to acne goes way beyond just food, but hormones, hereditary acne, etc... But everyone is different, so get to know your skin. Just follow the few cardinal rules out there when you have acne. For example, don't touch, don't pop, etc... you all know. Just overcome your urge to touch and pick and your face will
improve. Know your skin and formulate your own opinions to the causes of your acne.

You all know what is good/bad for you, you're not as clueless as you think. You can't label junk food acne "triggers", because we all know they're bad for your overall health. Weight being the most obvious effect. So don't believe everything you read.

I apologize if you take my reply as an attack or an attempt to shoot down your theory, but I was just giving my opinion and my experience.
[QUOTE]So if you took a person with clear skin and put him/her on the same eating habits as an acne sufferer, who you say eat "bad" foods, would that person with clear skin breakout, too? If your answer is NO, then ask yourself why. What makes an acne sufferer different from someone with clear skin, when they engage in the same eating habits. I'm sure you all know people who indulge in the wrong kind of foods,or never wash their face, and don't protect their skin, and they're still clear.[/QUOTE]

You are right in that the diet/acne connection is NOT a cause/effect reaction in everybody out there. However, the question you are asking is like saying: "If you took a thin person and an overweight person and fed them the same "bad" foods, would the thin person gain weight too? And if not, why not?" Well, many reasons including their physical activity, genetics, their metabolism, to name a few.

With acne, eating chocolate is NOT going to cause a pimple for EVERY person that eats it. Neither is ice cream, pizza, or bananas. But people who are predisposed to having acne for whatever reasons (genetics, how their liver processes toxins... to name a few) would more than likely notice a tremendous improvement in their skin if they followed the correct diet long enough to give results a chance to appear.

[QUOTE]but if a drug can help suppress or mask the problem, that the next best thing, right?[/QUOTE]
Next best thing to what, trying a healthy diet? ;) Personally, if something is wrong with me I want to treat the cause, not mask the problem. A good painkiller can make a toothache go away, but if I have an abscess lurking underneath, the problem will only come back as soon as the painkiller is discontinued. Accutane didn't cure me, and it doesn't cure everybody that takes it. If anything else your acne comes back with a vengeance later on. How long has it been since you stopped Accutane? Have you stayed clear? If so, congrats to you. I only hope that it lasts for you longer than it did for me.
Sweetjade, oh insightful one, thank you for the run down. While I was only talking about food and accutane, you went further to comment and discuss hormonal acne-related issues. Thank you, it was very educating. Now this article "Elimination Food Diet " - Like I said before, we all know what and what not to eat. That article didn't even mention acne, or at least I don't think it did, I didn't read through it. I just don't like when people tag certain foods acne "triggerers", when there is no real empirical evidence of it, unless you are infact allergic to it. So I didn't find any information on that site that would substantiate or justify what Idealist if trying to prove.

Just to reiterate, the internet is a terrible source to look up acne. So looking up anything is rather pointless, unless you're reading someones journal or something of that nature. Type any word along with acne and you'll get tons of pages. Sadly enough, you'll also find more horror stories and peoples' failures on certain drugs, than you would finding peoples' success stories. The internet is a great source, but not when it comes down to acne. There aren't that many credible sites on the net, just look at all the scams sites. Anybody can make a site and sign Dr. "X" at the bottom, and come off as a doctor. I could make a site right now, and use photoshop to touch up before and after pictures, write fake testimonials and sign myself as a doctor. I could say on my website to starve yourself for "x" amount of days and it will ultimately free your skin of acne forever, and do you know how many people would actually do it?
[QUOTE=ForgottenFaith]Sweetjade, oh insightful one, thank you for the run down. While I was only talking about food and accutane, you went further to comment and discuss hormonal acne-related issues. Thank you, it was very educating. Now this article "Elimination Food Diet " - Like I said before, we all know what and what not to eat. That article didn't even mention acne, or at least I don't think it did, I didn't read through it. I just don't like when people tag certain foods acne "triggerers", when there is no real empirical evidence of it, unless you are infact allergic to it. So I didn't find any information on that site that would substantiate or justify what Idealist if trying to prove.

Just to reiterate, the internet is a terrible source to look up acne. So looking up anything is rather pointless, unless you're reading someones journal or something of that nature. Type any word along with acne and you'll get tons of pages. Sadly enough, you'll also find more horror stories and peoples' failures on certain drugs, than you would finding peoples' success stories. The internet is a great source, but not when it comes down to acne. There aren't that many credible sites on the net, just look at all the scams sites. Anybody can make a site and sign Dr. "X" at the bottom, and come off as a doctor. I could make a site right now, and use photoshop to touch up before and after pictures, write fake testimonials and sign myself as a doctor. I could say on my website to starve yourself for "x" amount of days and it will ultimately free your skin of acne forever, and do you know how many people would actually do it?[/QUOTE]

ForgottenFaith,
The internet is an amazing source of information and indeed misinformation and fraud. If you know how to use it wisely, and believe me I do, although I wish I could do it a bit better, you can find credible information for what you are looking for. Usually, I only ever speak of things that I have found clinically controlled scientific studies on. So, when I mentioned the elimination food diet, I wasn't referring to any specific article, as this is an empirically validated method used to identify allergies, or intolerances, in an individual. People do not know what affects them when it comes down to an allergy or an intollerance because there are [B]many[/B] possible environmental irritants. While there are tests to help speed up the identification process, they are not always the final consensus, as a properly followed Elimination Diet is the most [B]accurate[/B] way to do this. However, the other day I did find an a elimination diet titled "Low Reaction Acne Diet"

Furthermore, acne is considered inflammatory, correct? Well these diets can also work for someone when they are allergic/intolerant to a food because that food will produce an inflammatory response. That inflammatory response can occur [U]anywhere[/U] within the body. Of course, as I love mentioning the hormonal connection that people [B]repeatedly[/B] fail to take into consideration, if you have sugar problems (not always detected), eating the same foods that can be inflammatory in some individuals and/or that will also boost your insulin levels, will consequentally boost your androgen levels. Thus, another way you can get acne.

Once again, you can not know if something affects you negatively if you are ALWAYS consuming that food item. Granted if it's a lethal or an [U]instant [/U] reaction as is usually associated with Allergies, you will find out sooner or later, but if it's an Intolerance it's a bit more difficult to pinpoint as this is a more [U]delayed[/U] reaction.

Intolerance of a particular food develops over a period of time (several years or decades after birth) due to lacking (enough of) the neccessary enzyme needed to properly digest a particular food item. Common examples would be a Lactose and Bean/Legume intolerance. As we age, most people, and some ethnic groups more than others, will [B]slowly[/B] become intolerant to both. From then on, an Intolerant Reaction can occur anywhere from [U]several hours [/U] to [U]a few days [/U] after you've consumed a food you're intolerant to. Therefore, you must eliminate one or several suspect allergens/irritants from your diet for a at least a few weeks, note any effects, and then see what happens every 2 weeks when you add them back in one-by-one.
forgottenfaith,

" Do you know how many people engage in bad eating habits? 80%+ (just throwing a figure out there) of the people in the United States would have acne."

have you noticed how many people who have bad eating habits, don't have acne, but are FAT. obesity is on the rise in the US, as well as type II diabeties, especially in children. again, the food eaten is going to manifest itself differently from person to person. i think we both agree on this.

"I've seen vegetarians and healthy eaters on here still have acne. Are you saying that it's an individual's fault for having acne, because they engage in bad eating habits, and they indulge on the wrong foods?"

well, i guess in a way i'm saying it's a person's fault. but that's NOT the point. the point i was trying to make is that people THINK they are eating healthy when they are really not. i've been a semi-vegetarian since about 15. at one point, i THOUGHT i was SO healthy simply because i didn't eat red meat. later, in my early 20s, i THOUGHT i was SO healthy because i was buying paul newmans brand of chips and salsa. and i THOUGHT i was SO healthy because i wasn't eating any fast food or pizza. but what WAS i eating? tons of pasta, pototoes, cheese, "healthy" cereals like cheerios, sandwiches, bananas.

i do agree with you that you shouldn't deprive yourself. i certainly don't. like i said before, i have a major sweet tooth, along with loving bread and cheese. i will have these foods OCCASIONALLY and in MODERATION (regarding the moderation...at least, i try...lol.)
[b]idealist[/b],

Thank you so much for starting this thread. It took me nearly 30 years to become a believer and I feel like such an idiot for not making the connection sooner cause it seems so obvious now. After all, no one doubts the connection between diet and heart disease or diet and diabetes. Do you mean to tell me that foods are powerful enough to clog your arteries, damage your kidneys or your liver, and rot your teeth, but they can't affect to your skin? Give me a break. I think a big reason why so many people are still unconvinced is because they don't realize the full extent of what foods are unhealthy. I'll hear people say they quit eating greasy foods and foods with sugar, but they still have acne. Well maybe it's because you didn't eliminate all the bad foods or maybe you did, but you didn't stick with it long enough to see the results. I was like a lot of people. I believed that dairy products, whole wheat bread, and brown rice were safe. No one ever died from eating bread and milk. And the famous food pyramid told us these were good foods. Of course now I know the food pyramid is useless since it was designed by The Department of Agriculture, a department whose primary function is to protect the health of the food industry.

Now I realize just how powerful food really is. Millions of years of evolution have conditioned our bodies to run on certain foods, but now we feed ourselves foods that our bodies aren't quite equipped to handle. It's like if you took regular gasoline, changed it, added some new ingredients, and then put it in your car. Would you expect your car to run the same? Of course not. As far as acne is concerned, dermatologists have little credibility in this area. The practice of medicine is first and foremost a business. You won't last long if you're telling your patients to go home and stop eating certain foods. But you'll make a lot of money if you can get them to take one drug after another. And the drug company who makes the drug will reward you handsomely. But it's not always a case of doctor looking to make money off of you. Sometimes, they just don't know better. They're just doing what they've been taught. Unfortunately, what they've been taught isn't always right. Food corporations influence what's taught in nutrition classes in med school and drug companies influence research studies to skew the findings in their favor. Think about all this the next time your dismisses the diet/acne connection and then tells you to take accutane or some other pill.





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