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For those interested, yes there is a genetic component to developing acne, in that certain people will be more "at risk", but there has yet to be specific acne gene. Just like there probably isn't a specific coughing gene, sneezing gene, when we get sick, right? Another example would be the small pox or chicken pox that's presented as skin lesions that were a direct result of a virus. Therefore, all of these are just signs of something [B]wrong[/B], [B]imbalanced[/B], or [B]attacking [/B] our body and this is how we are physically able to be aware of the problem...some people aren't as lucky.


I know I know I know, the statements:
"no one knows why we have acne"

"no one knows how accutane works, it just does"

"there is no connection between diet & acne, but iodine may contribute"

"diet may work if you have an allergy, but my acne is hormonal so food can't be related"

"Bacteria causes acne"

"Sebum causes acne"

Sigh....through years and 1000s of hours of personal research, experimentation, and yielding positive results, along with others research & testimonies, I have [B]never[/B] found anything that has defined acne as it's own disease. The various types of Acne and Acne-like lesions (rosacea, chloracne, yosho, etc) have ALWAYS been associated with one or more of the following:

Irritating/Pore Clogging Skin Care ingredients

Puberty

Hormonal/Health Imbalances

Stress

Allergies

Intolerances

Chemical Sensitivities

Toxins



Despite whatever your genetic risk is, the above can be corrected by altering your environmental influences as they can [U]activate those dormant genes [/U] or can [U]INCREASE your risk [/U] even more so. Now, later I'll clarify the above misconceptions, but until then here's something for all of you to mull over:

[B]1965 [/B] - possible 1st evidence of Acne and the role that Androgens play as a subject of published research [url]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=4221206[/url] (no available abstract)

[B]1970 [/B] - this is the first study that provides an available abstract and mentions how Androgen Excess has been found to increase Acne & Hirsutism [url]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=4252699[/url]

[B]1972 [/B] - "Skin Diseases Induced by Hormones" and the role insulin plays [url]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=4270049[/url]

[B]1977[/B] - Unexpected discovery of Insulin & Glucose role on Sex Hormone production [url]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=193114[/url]

[B]1978[/B] -“ Dermatologic Indications for Anti-androgenic Treatment” [url]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=82309[/url]

[B]1979[/B] - HAIR-AN Syndrome (hyperandrogenism, insulin resistance, acanthosis negricans) discovered? [url]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=496546[/url]

[B]1980[/B] - Influence of Sex Hormones on Acne (the role of DHT) [url]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=6258368[/url]

[B]1981[/B]- Type II Diabetes and low HDL (good) cholesterol levels [url]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=6793437[/url]

[B]1981[/B] - Adrenal Hyperandrogenism [url]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=6450905[/url]

[B]1986[/B] - possible 1st evidence of Puberty being a function of Insulin Resistance
[url]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=3523245[/url]

[B]1988[/B] – “Cutaneous Manifestions of Systemic Diseases” (thyroid) [url]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=9889752[/url]

[B]1993 [/B] - Insulin Resistance & Puberty [url]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=8262487[/url]

[B]1994 [/B] – Correlation among hormonal imbalance and cancer [url]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=8144280[/url]

[B]1995 [/B] – Hormonal Correlates of Acne & Hirsutism [url]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=7825645[/url]

[B]1996[/B] – Hyperandrogenism, Insulin, & Cancer Risk [url]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=8932921[/url]

[B]1996[/B] – Western Diets role in Insulin Resistance, Type II Diabetes, High LDL, and low Sex Hormone binding Globulin (SHBG) [url]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=8604665[/url]

[B]1998[/B] - SHBGs role to bind Free Testosterone (can convert to DHT) as a function of Insulin production & Diet
[url]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=9770724[/url]

[B]2000[/B] - Hyperandrogenism & Insulin Resistance in Women
[url]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=11595827[/url]

[B]2001[/B] – Males, Sex Hormones, & Diet [url]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=11319710[/url]

[B]2001[/B] – Sex Hormones, Diet, & Cancer [url]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=11205485[/url]

[B]2002[/B] - Genetic & Environmental Influences. Points out that twins with acne are deficient in a component that produces HDL (good cholesterol) [url]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=12485434[/url]

[B]2003[/B] - Hyperinsulinemia, Syndrome X (Metabolic Syndrome), & Hormonal Imbalance [url]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=14527633[/url]

[B]2003[/B] - Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome (PCOS) in Adolescents [url]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=14593553[/url]

[B]2003[/B] - PCOS, Metabolic Syndrome, & Low HDL Levels [url]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=15024892[/url]

[B]2003[/B] – LOCAH (late onset adrenal hyperplasia) in males with acne [url]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=12828760[/url]

[B]2003[/B] – Dietary factors & Testosterone production [url]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=12947426[/url]

[B]2003 [/B] - Cutaneous Manifestations of Endocrine Disorders...for dermatologists [url]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=12688837[/url]

[B]2004[/B] - Androgen Excess & associated symptoms [url]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=14764747[/url]

[B]2004[/B] - Insulin Resistance & Androgens [url]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=15292348[/url]


Furthermore, did [B]any[/B] of you notice that when we treat our acne it is a result of the following methods:
[B]Non-pore clogging skin care[/B]

[B]Avoidance of allergens[/B]

[B]Cleansing/Flushing of toxins[/B]

[B]Anti-inflammatories[/B] (antibotics, benzoyl peroxide, zinc, glucocorticoids)

[B]Exfoilants[/B] (glycolic, salicylic acid, retinoids)

[B]Fat Metabolizers [/B] - B5 Therapy, NAC, Fish Oil, Fiber (Glucomannon), Guggul, Low Saturated Fat Diet, Avoidance of Trans Fats, etc

[B]Anti-androgens[/B] - Retinoids (accutane, retinA, Isoterx, azelex), Estrogen, Spironolactone, Flutamide, Glucocorticoids (select cases), Insulin Sensitizers, Folic Acid, Green Tea, Saw Palmetto, etc

[B]DHT Inhibitors[/B] - Retinoids, Avodart (duatasteride), Green Tea (EGCG), Beta Sitosterol (Saw Palmetto), Curcumin (Tumeric), Zinc Sulphate, Vit. B6 (Pyridoxal HCL or Phosphate only), GLA (omega 6), EPA (Omega 3), etc

[B]Insulin Sensitizers/Balancers[/B] - Avandia, R-ALA, Chromium GTF, Cinnamon, Green Tea, NAC, D-Chiro Inositol (Buckwheat Farinetta), Low Carb Diets, Gluten-Free Diets, Paleolithic Diets, etc
Katrina,
Primarily a Gluten Free diet got me 95% clear. Then it was misc. foods (mostly what would be considered allergens), dairy, added refined sugars (esp. corn syrup & high fructose corn syrup) & avoidance of trans fats, that got me the other 4%. So that's a total of 99% clear (medications NEVER gave me that) and with the elimination of the Almond Family, corn syrup & trans fats my face has done a 180 and is soooo dry w/tiny tiny pores, yet my skin care hasn't changed. There's actually an old book that someone pointed me to and so I bought it off of Amazon (Acne Can Be Cured) a few weeks back that said if you avoid saturated fats & trans fats you would have clear skin, but it doesn't eliminate gluten carbohydrates. Regardless, I still eat saturated fats & occasionally fried fats so maybe that's why I've got that 1% left. Yet, despite my formerly oily face & upper body, I've always had dry skin elsewhere so I think it's time I start taking some Omega 3s ;-)

Oh and, I NEVER would have known that the other foods/ingredients I used to eat caused me problems if I hadn't eliminated my BIGGEST culprit as it was masking the effects of the others. People tend to give up when the try such diets because they don't see (enough) results, but usually it's because they still have something in their diet that is masking the effects of what they are avoiding. It happened to me, it's happened to others, but I never carried a negative atitude about it, so when I heard about how this worked for others, after a few weeks, I decided to give it a try. The main difference this time though was I just learned how to do it "smartly", by researching and avoiding foods based on what the scientific studies have shown about them. The other foods, were through Trial & Error.

If you do a search, you can learn more about my diet and what some like to call a "human diet"


Take Care,

P.S. If you want to know what other ways you can balance your insulin levels look into diets that are HIGH in Fiber and LOW in animal saturated fat AND NO Trans Fats, and refined sugars. Also, if you are able to read & understand the above links you will see what foods are beneficial and which ones you should avoid. Wheat is not better than rice, in so many ways, so if you can't go gluten-free, at least go wheat & spelt free (lots of varieties).

Do the research, I promise you that if you have insulin problems (you may not know it), this is going to help you, probably in more ways than one. Also, if diet isn't enough, there are several medications and supplements (see my first post) you can try that will also help balance your insulin production and thus[B] lower your overall androgen production[/B]....Isn't that cool? ;-)

P.P.S. I tested negative for gluten intolerance before I changed my diet, but gluten intolerance appears to be associated with a % of Type II Diabetes along with other health problems, so they may need to find new way of testing...
[QUOTE=openseason]Well nothing cured my acne and I think Accutane has too many permanent negative side effects. You seem to be back to square one that high insulin making foods like chocolate cause acne. Just isnt so.[/QUOTE]


Ahh, but that is a conclusion that was NEVER tested. They never bothered to test chocolate CANDY (sugar, dairy, fat) to see if it affected your insulin levels. They NEVER differentiated between Pure Cocoa and Chocolate CANDY. No, instead what they did was give groups of teenagers or college students (this horrid experiment has been repeated so many times) two types of chocolate:

[B]Experimental Group[/B] - Chocolate CANDY

[B]Control Group [/B] - Placebo Chocolate CANDY - only it didn't have chocolate, BUT it still had the same glycemic value, etc.

Therefore, all those tests did was show that it's possible that we aren't allergic or intolerant to Cocoa (I'm eating a dark chocolate right now), but it did nothing to eliminate the other discriminating factors (sugar, dairy, fats). Idiots.

Unfortunately, that right there is the problem when people follow Low Carbohydrate Diets or Low Fat Diets. People get it in their heads that all fats or carbs are bad, when there are different types for each. That instead of avoiding foods based on them only being refined, they should pay attention to how much fiber they contain, how much amylose (good starch) they have, whether it contains gluten (if you care), and then worry about the amount of sugar it provides.

When it comes to fats it's not a matter of what's "greasy", but about the type of fat. We've got good fats (omega 3s, unsaturated fats) & the problematic fats. So, yes animal saturated fats have been deemed problematic in a numerous studies. Yet, what we get [B]unknowingly[/B] is a lot of saturated-like fats that are from Trans fats and are considered much more detrimental (as they are foreign to our bodies). You probably are now seeing labeling or advertising that states that "this product has "0 Trans Fats'" but usually when you flip over the box, right there in the ingredient list will be "Partially Hydrogenated Oils" or Hydrogenated Oils (may be mislabled). LOL, if you've ever taken organic chemistry you would know that regarding Partially Hydrogenated Oils, they aren't completely hydrogenated and that the H atoms are on opposite (trans) sides of each other, thus TRANS FATs. That is very very scary, I'm guessing they don't have nutritionists working for them to properly assess their nutrient content. (surfing the web) Oh wait...it's a marketing ploy. The FDA allows them to state "0 Trans Fats" if there is less than 0.5g of trans fats per serving...well acne & healthwise, it still bothers me and other people.

Therefore, why are you relying on those highly outdated & incorrect studies, when I just posted for you a nice long list of studies dating back to 1977 - PRESENT that have shown an Insulin-Androgen Connection and how Diet can influence our Insulin & Androgen Production. I'm sorry if I didnt clarify this, but Insulin is not only involved in carbohydrate metabolism but also the storage of fats. These fats become cholesterol and cholesterol is what our Steriod Hormones (sex hormones-androgens, cortisol, etc) are made from. So, in light of how the body works and ALL of this information, why are you still holding on to such a highly detrimental fallacy?
[QUOTE=openseason]Jade if you look at the twin study you posted,[B] it states that the twins with acne had low levels of the good cholesterol. [/B] That would be a genetic problem not a food problem. [B]You prove my theory because you are eating dark chocolate and are 99 percent clear, and according to your theory thats impossible. [/B] What I am saying is that acne is an excess sebum production, which may br in response to androgens. However no young child has acne despite a diet of Captain Crunch cereal and Pop Tarts and chocolate milk. Why they dont have hormones thats why food isnt causing them acne.[/QUOTE]


Yup, that's why children generally don't have acne because their bodies haven't gone into [B]puberty [/B] (a temporary state of insulin resistance & hyperandrogenism). Although there are some children that begin puberty before the age of 8 and do get acne. Of course these children also end up having some sort of hormonal disorder, sometimes it is due to Insulin Resistance Syndrome.

Now as for your statement about the twin study THANK YOU for finally reading one of the studies I posted. =) Now, if you noticed they don't discuss what those twins ate. Yet even that isn't a huge deal because whether it is genetic or environment (diet) that is influencing their low HDL, a [B]Western Diet [/B] high in (refined) carbohydrates, animal saturated fats, trans fats, added sugar, and LOW in fiber [B]will ALSO lower your HDL levels[/B]. Therefore when a doctor sees this, they tell people to alter their diet.

If you have a higher risk, a certain ethnicities do, than the average individual, [B]the LAST thing you should do is eat foods that will CONTRIBUTE to this risk.[/B] That is why people with allergies avoid certain foods that cause them problems, genetic factor or not, [B]they KNOW that by avoiding what is [U]activating[/U] that gene or defect, they can [U]prevent[/U] the allergic reaction.[/B] Thus, if you are at a higher risk or are showing high levels, that is why doctors tell you to lower your bad (LDL) cholesterol levels through diet & exercise. Of course they will give you medication if you want it, but most people can do it through diet.

The funny thing is, the above Western Diet, what is contributing to an increase in [b]Insulin Resistance Syndrome, doesn't also just lower your HDL levels, but raises your Free Fatty Acids (some are inflammatory), also raises your Insulin levels, which lower your SHBG levels, and as a result, raise your Androgen levels.[/B] That is what all of those studies show when you actually READ them.

Yup, to test my sensitivity to sugar (I don't crave it), I occasionaly do eat dark chocolate or Gluten-Free Cookies/muffins that don't contain dairy, or trans fats, but do contain evaporated cane juice or brown rice syrup. If I eat enough (several pieces), I will develop a few small whiteheads/pustules that go away within 2 days. I'm very sensitive to all forms of added sugar, but table sugar & cane syrup don't have a big impact on me, especially compared to Corn Syrup & High Fructose Corn Syrup (Cystic acne).

99% clear is better than when I was on BC & Spiro, it was also better than when I was on Avandia & Spiro. Over the years, what have you done that had the BIGGEST impact on decreasing your acne?
[QUOTE=openseason]If you read these posts like I have, you will find that diet does not control acne. Like I said my father had bad cystic acne and ate a diet with very little sugar. Your statement that HFCS does not raise insulin levels is wrong. The reason there are so many fat kids in the USA is the consumption of soft drinks and the insulin rise. I do agree with you that sugar consumtion causes type 2 diabetes.[/QUOTE]


Yeah, but according to the studies HFCS doesn't raise insulin levels. But if you look at other studies it says that it's not different than glucose. Personally I feel it's a bad thing, I know it's a bad thing, I believe the studies, and....we actually agree on something....awesome. ;-)

Now, sugar itself isn't my [B]major[/B] problem (like 4%), it was specific carbohydrate foods I ate on a daily basis that contributed more so to my Insulin Resistance.

Did your dad ever go on a Low Carb diet, avoid Gluten, or avoid all Grains?

Or All Fruits, as this was a simple enough solution for some people?
Furthermore, did any of you notice that when we treat our acne it is a result of the following methods:
Non-pore clogging skin care

Avoidance of allergens

Cleansing/Flushing of toxins

Anti-inflammatories (antibotics, benzoyl peroxide, zinc, glucocorticoids)

Exfoilants (glycolic, salicylic acid, retinoids)

Fat Metabolizers - B5 Therapy, NAC, Fish Oil, Fiber (Glucomannon), Guggul, Low Saturated Fat Diet, Avoidance of Trans Fats, etc

Anti-androgens - Retinoids (accutane, retinA, Isoterx, azelex), Estrogen, Spironolactone, Flutamide, Glucocorticoids (select cases), Insulin Sensitizers, Folic Acid, Green Tea, Saw Palmetto, etc

DHT Inhibitors - Retinoids, Avodart (duatasteride), Green Tea (EGCG), Beta Sitosterol (Saw Palmetto), Curcumin (Tumeric), Zinc Sulphate, Vit. B6 (Pyridoxal HCL or Phosphate only), GLA (omega 6), EPA (Omega 3), etc

Insulin Sensitizers/Balancers - Avandia, R-ALA, Chromium GTF, Cinnamon, Green Tea, NAC, D-Chiro Inositol (Buckwheat Farinetta), Low Carb Diets, Gluten-Free Diets, Paleolithic Diets, etc


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so does that mean that if you pick one thing out of each category and adopt it in your lfiestyle, its pretty much a guarantee of clear skin?
[QUOTE=openseason]Well Jade the approch I have found is in the book "The Acne Cure". It is a three step program of washing first with salycic acid 2% solution to clean the skin. Then applying gycolic acid wash 8 to 10 % solution. Leave on a few minutes. Then applying cool benzoyl peroxide 5 % to cool skin, because the pores are opened with cool skin. This cleansing ritual is followed in the morning and night for a few weeks. The salycic acid cleans the skin surface, the glycolic acid loosens plugs of oil further down, and the benzoyl peroxide kills the bacteria. You need all three chemicals.
I was always against excessive washing and rubbing, but these 3 chemicals applied gently together stop the growth cycle of acne. This does not cure acne, but the skin will improve quite a lot. [B]Cystic acne is very deep and needs additional treatment. [/B] The book also states acne is genetic with a dominant gene. [B]If your parents had acne then you prorbably have it in the same place on your body such as face back or chest. [/B]
BTW in on study 50 teenagers with acne at the Univ. of Penn. fed 1 pound of cholate a day each. [B]Result no change [/B] in 46, 2 got better and 2 got worse. There is nothing in chocolate to cause acne except guilt[/QUOTE]

Hey, thanks for FINALLY sharing your regimen. I heard about the Acne Cure, long after I was following a similar method. I used to use 2%BHA & 10 - 20% (Sage Advice conc.) Glycolic on my skin, plus a 10% glycolic wash and it made me skin look as good as it did when I was using RetinA & Azelex! Of course, I was still on BC & 200mg Spiro at the same time and I didn't have clear skin at all....it helped with texture & treating, but it didn't stop the breakouts.

BP and I don't get along. I've used it and yes it does dry them up, but it made my skin itch, sore, left ugly marks, & of course, bleached so many towels & shirts (before I fig. out that BP bleaches....years years ago), but I'm glad that works for you and of course Dan has his "The Regimen" so we KNOW it works, just... not for everyone.

Now, you said that you [B]had [/B] cystic acne, and that cystic acne can't be cured through topicals, so how did you get rid of your cystic acne?

Again, that study doesn't clear anything about the consumption of Chocolate Candy. How much & what type of Sugar? How much Dairy? How much & What type of Fats? All of those things are what matters and those are the factors that NONE of the chocolate studies have addressed.

Not to mention, [B]how can anyone know if they breakout from a food, if they consume that food on a daily basis???[/B] I avoided Chocolate candy & Soda for over 10 years....it NEVER stopped my existing acne. I also avoided non-organic milk, and than organic milk for a period of months...it NEVER stopped my existing acne. Yet,[B] once I ceased eating my MAJOR contributor, my skin started clearing up[/B] and I was able to see [U]how much [/U] the other foods/ingredients affected me (only 4%).

It was funny though because I thought Gluten-Free was my only answer, since it avoids the [B]bulk[/B] of my refined & carbohydrate consumption. So I thought "hey now I can pig out on chocolate candy (not fond of the after taste) and drink soda (don't like the carbonation)" WRONG. After a few months of having nice skin, I started consuming caffeine free sodas and within a few days...cystic acne. I stopped waited a while and tried it again, same thing happened. So HFCS & I don't get along, but at the time, I didn't realize that all sodas & non-100% fruit juces (prefer 100%) contained HFCS Corn Syrup, so I was still getting this form of sugar in certain foods & sauces. Yet once I eliminated it entirely, the cysts stopped.

Now I also avoid Nuts & The Almond Family as these give me cysts too. The way I discovered this was because I needed to eat other foods to make up for what I wasn't eating in bread products. So I started consuming more nuts. This was something that I would only do sporadically & for the holidays before I changed my diet. So when I started to eat them more often I started getting acne in areas that had previously been clear, well Peanuts, Cashews-Pistachios, Walnuts-Pecans were the source of it. Then I was primarily only eating almonds daily (they are good) as some of the others can cause acne for acne sufferers & sometimes nonsuffers (pistachio breaks out my coworker). I started [B]breaking out in NEW areas I had never broken out before[/B]: in between my eyebrows and all under my chin-neck region with really stubborn cysts! I finally figured out the problem this past summer with certain fruits and then finally gave up almonds about 2 months ago and problem solved. I did some research and it turns out that what I avoided were all related...meet the Almond Family: almonds, peaches, plums/prunes, nectarines. (I'm really hoping this has to do with having a leaky gut, which I can heal, as most people on this board that have cleared through diet don't usually avoid this much)

[B]After over 2 years tweeking & customizng my diet, I'm 99% clear, produce hardly any sebum, have the smallest pores I've seen in years, AND have no more horrible crippling crying on the floor menstrual pain. I'm a VERY happy woman =)[/B]

So anyway, yes I have acne in the same areas that my mother & father do. My father still breaks out a wee bit (eats peanuts & gluten), but my mother doesn't (she's gained weigh though). I'm guessing you have acne in the same areas as your father?

So let me see if I've got this straight, here's two people (female?) that have acne, and they know that it's genetic link because their parents had acne. Yet it could also be environmental in that whatever their parents were exposed to, their kids could also be exposed to. Regardless, [B]you believe that because it has a genetic influence that dietary changes can't correct it[/B], right? Well then, why have I? I'm not Gluten Intolerant, I'm not allergic to wheat, yet....it worked (Insulin-androgen-acne connection)

We both have high androgen levels and/or heightened androgen sensitivity in the skin, as either one has been associated with Acne Conglobata/ Fulminans, Vulgaris, etc, so why did dietary changes work better for me than other antiandrogens I've tried? Have you tried taking antiandrogens, what were your results? If not good, what could possibly account for our differences? Do you know the actual name for the type of acne you have?
[QUOTE=Pymp22]Sweetjade, I have a question for you. What in you opinion causes back acne? I have read all of your posts on diet and i just dont understand why i only break out on my back and my diet seems pretty good. Any help would be greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]

Hey, care to share what your "pretty good' diet is? ;-)

As for your question though, I can't say. I have body acne & face acne and that 1% I have usually manifests itself on my face. Since changing my diet, it's rare if I breakout on my body now. I'm tempted to say that perhaps nuts may play a role as when I would breakout out on my new diet, it was usually cystic. Also if I get too much sugar (table sugar) I can also get some tiny zits along my arms & sometimes my upper body.

When I hear people ask about how to eliminate body acne specifically, I want to be able to say, "no you don't have to overhaul you entire diet' but I just don't know. I know going gluten-free made a HUGE impact for my body acne and I know that specific low carb diets (gluten-free, paleo, perricone) also has worked to eliminate body acne for others, even when they may still breakout some on their face.

What type of acne is it? What type of product do you use to wash with?
SweetJade,

I'm continually impressed with the research and work you've done. I'm so glad you're continuing to post on this board and teach what you've learned.

What advice would you give for someone who is attempting to go on a gluten-free, refined sugar free diet? I've known for ages that sugar and any type of soda are a major culprit to my acne, but I have struggled with gaining the will-power to avoid these foods. You'd think cystic acne would be enough motivation, but I'm one of those people who use food to comfort myself.

Basically I think I and others are looking for snack ideas and ways to avoid eating naughty foods when you're in a social situation. Meals are something I can easily plan for, but I have yet to find snacks that can tied me over between meals. I usually reach for packaged foods likes chips or crackers or string cheese and pig out on those.

Finally, would you be willing to share your favorite dinner recipe?

Do you think you will have a website devoted to what you've learned some day? Or will you save that for your doctoral dissertation? ;)

Thanks so much!
Well, based on food anthropology studies, American Indians contributed the following:

[B]Corn varities[/B]
[B]Squash[/B]
[B]Bean/Legume[/B]
wild rice
some nuts
some peppers
sweet potatos
vanilla beans
sunflower (seeds)


So despite them having over 300 different types of crops, their grain diet was corn based. Those in the East (I guess Asians) brought more [U]rice[/U] varieties, and in Africa [U]millet[/U] (gluten-free grain). While wheat originated in Africa, [B]Europeans brought wheat, barley, rye, and oats (gluten grains) to the U.S.. [/B] A Western Diet is predominatly wheat based, some form of it is found in over 90% of processed, packaged, frozen foods at our grocery stores. So who would you like to blame again????

Gluten Grains are Intolerant Rxn foods
Wheat is high allergen & Intolerant rxn food
Corn is a high allergen
Rice is a low allergen

Furthermore, those at higher risk for developing Type II Diabetes, never originally had a diet that was Gluten Based, let alone filled with Refined Foods. Therefore when foriegners come into the U.S., eventually they develop the same type of diseases that are now amongst the top of our "Preventable Disease" list.

For example, Caucasians can consume a western diet and will ony be 20% at risk of developing Type II Diabetes. Yet [B]when Native American/American Indan and Mexican Americans consume a Western Diet they'll be 80% at risk of developing Type II Diabetes! [/B] Not to mention, this was a disease that didn't exist over 100 years ago, so what could possibly account for it's [B]increasing[/B] prevalence, here and even in Europe?

I'm not too good at defining ethnicities, but American Indian/Native American, Mexican American, African American, Asian American, and Asian Indian/Indian are a greater risk of developing Type II Diabetes. Obvioulsy there's a greater genetic compenent to this, BUT there's also an environmental compentent. The [B]gene-environment interactions [/B] are what you see when the rates of preventable health problems increase from consuming a "Western Diet"

[B]Insulin resistance syndrome in children - 2004[/B]
[url]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=15181020[/url]
PinkGrape & Joe Dude,
LOL, I read your post yesterday Pinkgrape and it was sooo pumped full of energy. So missing the sugar hasn't hurt you in that respect, huh ;-) Since you both have problems with sugar, one possibility is that it’s a [U]sugar metabolism issue [/U] or it could be an [U]internal yeast (candida) issue[/U]. I suppose one way of knowing this is if you always breakout from consuming fruits. Sometimes, this would be due to taking antibiotics orally for years and if so, your diet will be very strict and not very fun, for at least one year until you kill of the yeast. Books such as The Yeast Connection, Anti-Candida Diet (if that exists), Body Ecology Diet, and perhaps even Breaking the Vicious Cycle (Specific Carbohydrate Diet) are what you want to follow.

Otherwise, the questions you asked I hear often and am still in the process of adapting to myself. I definitely think that there is a HUGE misconception that healthy for you food has to suck, but it doesn’t. With so many people out there with allergies & intolerances, and on “diets” they are making “good” tasting foods to suit everyone. If you don't know how to shop or how to cook, it doesn't matter, cuz I'm still learning how too. ;-)

There's two theories with produce: 2 Vegetables for every 1 Fruit or 2/3 of your diet is composed of vegetables. Choose Fruits that you enjoy and seem to tolerate & Vegatables that are high in fiber, Calcium & other nutrients AND that you enjoy. [u]Somethin is better than nothing so eat produce however you feel comfortable & in order of flavor pick:[/U]
Fresh / Packaged
Frozen
Canned


[U]Meats[/U]
Fresh
Frozen or Precut
Prepared or Frozen Seasoned (watch the ingredients)
Applegate Farms (wasn't fond of their beef hotdogs)
Wellshire Farms meats & lunchmeats
Shelton’s Meats & Lunchmeats (tasty, no sugars or nitrites)


[U]If you're thirsty drink:[/U]
Water, water, water
Fresh Blended whole fruit juice (so you have the fiber)
Decaffienated Tea
Decaffienated Coffee
Use Xylitol and/or Stevia to sweeten


[U]If you are used to eating pastas or Ramen[/U]
Go for GF Rice, Buckwheat, Quinoa, and/or Corn Pastas
Go for (rice) Thai Noodle (box, bowels, packets) - different flavors
Organic Spaghetti Sauces (w/o sugars..)


[U]Condiments & Flavorings:[/U]
Add No Sugar Added or Unsweetened Flavorings when bored w/ just water
Westbrea Naturals Unsweetened Ketchup (ONLY no sugar added ketchup)
San-J 100% Soy Tamari Soy Sauce (most soy sauces have wheat)
Seasoning Blends or Marinades (check ingredients)
Olive Oil
Grapeseed Oil
Smart Balance
Palm Oil or Coconut oil (for cooking)


[U]Baking?[/U]
Organic Milk or Goats milk
Rice, Almond, or other Nut Miks (watch the sugar)
Soy Milk Maker - make your own grain, nut & seed milks
Natural Applesauce instead of Oil
GF Flours – Nuts, Seeds, Coconut, Bean/legume, GF Grain Flours


[U]Snack or Healthy Junk:[/U]
Organic Dark Chocolate (check type of sugar)
Unsweetened Flavored Applesauce
Fresh or Frozen Fruit
Dried Fruit, Bars, & Leathers
Fresh & Dried Vegetables
Nuts –
Seeds – Brazil nuts, sunflower, sesame, pumpkin
Veggie Crisps
Corn Chips
Organic Potato Chips
Frito Lays[I] Natural[/I] Potato Chip Brand
Rice or Corn Cakes
Newman’s Own Organic Popcorn (no trans fats)
Homemade Popcorn either in microwave container or stove & add oils & flavorings after



[U]Grocer Shopping:[/U]
Natural/Holisitc/Organic/ Healthfood Stores

Farmers Markets (may be seasonal)

Buyer’s Club – kinda like the Co-op, more costly, & high purchase minimums

Co-Ops – these are places or drop sites that offer fresh fruits, vegetables, grains, legumes, and sometimes even packaged foods that are priced at a lot less than your regular or natural grocery store. You pay be to be a member and then sign up for a delivery of food every 2 weeks or every month based on the season’s selection. Where I live there’s a co-op about 1 hour away, but I’ll be commuting to school over there so it’ll be worth it. Usually though you should be able to find one nearby (that will deliver), especially if you live in a highly populated or agricultural area. The Members own the Co-op and there’s variety of ways to earn additional savings (% discount, volunteering, etc). It’s a really cool concept that tries to bring back sustainable agriculture in your community. Do a search.


Oh and as for recipes, LOL, one day I'm sure I'll start on those, but I've realized that if I want something fried, I do it with no flour and sometimes you can't tell a difference. That whenever I buy salads I could have made 4 - 6 of them with meats & fixings at home for the price of that ONE salad! So eating out is convenient, but it's usually not more affordable (unless it's poor quality food).

Now, all I do when I'm tired is grab some frozen or precut meat (hamburger patties, chicken, fish), season it (w or w/o olive oil), toss in the oven and then spread it over a bed of rice or spinach/romaigne lettuce. Other days I'll grab some vegetables like broccoli, green/string beans, okra, squash, etc and make a stir fry with chicken, shrimp, sausage, or yes....even hotdogs. If I’m really really tired I’ll grab some Hormel Chili or Beef Stew or some canned food that doesn’t have gluten or sugars and eat that.

When I eat out, I make sure to find out on the resturant/fast food website to know what's gluten free or if they even have an ingredient list. Usually all I'm able to eat at a fastfood place is Tacos or Taquitos (be careful), Fajita meats w/ corn chips insted of flour tortilla, baked chicken, flavored chicken wings, some soups/stews, rice, vegetables, SALADS (w or w/o chicken, salami, turkey, etc), and the occassional Low-Carb (lettuce wrapped) burger/chicken sandwich. If trans fats aren't a huge problem, some places like Burger King & Carls Jr. do have a coating on their fries, but it's Rice flour.

Also, when I'm out and there's something I want and the product seems suspect I'll ask them to check the ingredients for dairy and wheat/gluten. Usually they end up bringing the package so I can check myself, but there's been one occasion where the boxes didn't have ingredient labels! The one thing you must realize is [B]you can't assume that just because it's chicken, lunchmeat that it doesn't have corn syrup or wheat in it[/B]..... Ask them, [B]check online[/B], or read the package before buying it. Yet restuarants don't offer this info so you can follow their low carb and/or Gluten free meals section or, in terms of sugars, just order what you want and take extra fiber, like [B]Glucommanon Fiber Capsules[/B] and/or [B]R-ALA [/B] to try to prevent a breakout. I don't deny myself restuarant food, I just don't eat out as often as I used to.

You know you would think that getting a breakout, let alone really STUBBORN cystic ones, would be enough to stop one from eating foods they shouldn’t, but we are not all the same. The more you avoid the harder it gets and unless you are well prepared you may find yourself in a yucky situation. Eventually, you will learn how much sugar & what type you can get away with eating that won't give you cystic breakouts or any breakouts and then hopefully you'll feel more comfortable and will be less likely to give up. Also, this is why you should surround yourself with as much “safe” foods as possible so that even out on the run, you can grab something or you know where it’s somewhat safe to eat out at. So when it comes to Gluten Free substitute foods like brownies, protein bars, waffles, breads, etc, I could give you tons of brands, but it would probably be easier if you guys would share what foods it is that tempt you, as perhaps there’s a healthier version ;-)





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