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[QUOTE=SweetJade1]LOL, the thread went "poof" and I don't know why either but, you mentioned something that I hear often and I don't believe that it's a good enough reason/excuse not to pursue [U]other[/U] treatment options (if not diet). My acne is "genetic", my mother had bad acne like I do (facial & body acne) only mine occurs elsewere too. M brother has/had acne on his face, my father still gets a bit of acne in his beard area or occasionally upper back, and if my mother eats chocolate candy she can still get a zit or two (smallish), yet that didn't stop dietary changes from getting me currently a bit more than 99% clear and improving other things as well.

Everyone at some point that discovered that the right diet worked for them, thought they had a "healthy" or at least healthier diet than other people, especially non-acne sufferers. However just like how a person can be allergic to a particular food & can be on a healthy balanced diet, that "balance" can not include the food that they are allergic to...or it's not healthy for them. Does that make sense? In other words, what good is all those nutrients, etc if that particular food you are eating is (unknowingly) causing you problems?

Considering that your father still has acne, did either of you ever get checked for a hormonal imbalance? In males hormonal imbalances do occur, and when they do it can be due to [B]Insulin Resistance Syndrome [/B] (hence the reducing the carbs or gluten, etc) induced Hyperandrogenism, [B]Adrenal Imbalance [/B] induced Hyperandrogenism or due to [B]Hypothyroidism[/B], all of which can boost your DHT production and inflammatory products that work toward the development of acne. I know that some doctors won't test males or give males drugs to lower the testosterone/DHT levels, but a sign of a hormonal imbalance in males is usually the acne (since androgens play the largest role in its presence).

My point here is that I don't want you or anyone else to limit yourself because you think that just because it's "genetic" that there may be no real answer for you. That's simply not true. Based on the disorders above, there's several treatment options available. There's other males here that will attest to both dietary effects as well as the medications or supplements associated with reducing hyperandrogenism and which was the most effective for them. I personally have used antiandrogens & insulin sensitizers (anti-androgenic) and while they did help me, I discovered that just altering my diet produced the most significant results I've ever had. So despite the science behind both diet and antiandrogen or anti-inflammatory medications/supplements, our bodies will tell us what is the RIGHT solution, and I hope that you get a chance to discover what is the right one for you.

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I agree a diet change may help me...but only a litte. My dad no longer has acne, he had it and he says he had it as bad as I do now. I don't believe that a diet change would help me get 99% clear...I have the most severe kind of acne and I really don't think that any amount of diet change is going to help in my case. I have done some experimenting and I have yet to find out what works for my body, but I really don't believe that cutting out all fruits, vegetables, carbs, dairy or any other specific food group is really that healthy for your body. If acne is caused by people with horrible diets then why do I see so many other teenagers out there with the crappiest diets and the clearest faces?

I mean I have made a diet change recently...I cut way back on my meats and dairy and my acne is as bad now as it ever was.

I do believe that I may have a hormonal imbalance, but I have never been tested for it.
[QUOTE=Zshock]I agree a diet change may help me...but only a litte. My dad no longer has acne, he had it and he says he had it as bad as I do now. I don't believe that a diet change would help me get 99% clear...I have the most severe kind of acne and I really don't think that any amount of diet change is going to help in my case. I have done some experimenting and I have yet to find out what works for my body, but I really don't believe that cutting out all fruits, vegetables, carbs, dairy or any other specific food group is really that healthy for your body. If acne is caused by people with horrible diets then why do I see so many other teenagers out there with the crappiest diets and the clearest faces?

I mean I have made a diet change recently...I cut way back on my meats and dairy and my acne is as bad now as it ever was.

I do believe that I may have a hormonal imbalance, but I have never been tested for it.[/QUOTE]

Hmm...you know while I care, I honestly don't care one way or the other how you get there. I absolutely want you and everyone to find their solution, whether it be diet, supplements, medication, or in the future gene therapy, but in the meantime gene therapy isn't an option. Holding on to the belief that your acne is hormonal or genetic and therefore "no diet can change this significantly" is a bit....naive.

You said some things that don't really add up, especially if your goal is to reduce androgen production. Meats don't really have a negative impact on that (but their saturated fat & added hormones may), therefore no you don't have to be a vegetarian in order to get clear skin. There's two threads right now discussing how even vegetarians can be consuming foods that encourage acne production! It's not what you [I]think[/I] is healthy or balanced, it's about the [B]way [/B] your body interacts with those foods. I believe you. I believe that you do "the right things" diet-wise, but that's not usually enough for someone with severe acne.

If you want to clear your skin, even with severe acne, through diet, you have to know [B]why[/B] a diet change would work in the first place. Do you know why myself and others, that have suffered with chronic acne for 10, 20, 30 years or more believe that a diet change would work? Granted, there's several possible reasons such as one may be allergic, intolerant, or consuming a toxin (chloracne or yoshu), but assuming these aren't you, do you understand the mechanisms behind which a diet change can help reduce or eliminate one's acne?

BTW, how severe is your acne? Do you have cystic acne? Would you consider it to be severe enough to be called acne conglobata or acne fulminans? How stubborn & persistant is it? Also, how long have you been suffering with acne? Do you think that yours will go away around the same time as your dad's did?

Also, what treatments have you tried in the past that didn't work? Accutane, Retina, Antibiotics, certain supplements? Since you've never been tested, is it something you are interested in doing so that you'll know what you have and thus, can find use the appropriate treatments (and possibly dietary measures) that are best for you. =) After all you can try a dozen treatments and eliminate a dozen foods but if they are not the one's that are meant to help your situation, it doesn't matter. I think that's why some people get all disappointed, skeptical, or bitter about certain things others of us will rave about. It's not those things fault, it's just that these individuals didn't know what their health/hormonal situation was and therefore had no true idea as to what would be the most accurate method of treating their acne. Make sense?





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