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tracy, first off - what makes you say "guys bounce back better than girls"? Do you mean with respect to scar healing or regaining the confidence to be outgoing and not stress about our skin? I don't think there's any biological reason why a girl's skin can't heal faster than a guy's. The only reason I can think of would be if the girl was wearing make-up that caused further break-outs and prevented the pores from breathing properly.

Anyway, as I said in reference to microdermabrasion, it's a double-edged sword. I was DESPERATE to try it and luckily I could afford it. But it's a fairly painful procedure. Firstly your face gets sprayed with tiny, sharp crystals and (if you so ask), problem areas get battered to the point where you have to grit your teeth. Then for good measure a mask is applied to your raw skin that helps protect it from sunlight (since you would burn easily with the top layer missing) and it stings like a ...

But I believe that having dealt with cystic acne I have suffered some of the worst kind of physical pain there is (but no, I haven't been shot in the stomach before). And after the pain the effects are desirable: red marks are evened out and lines and wrinkles smoothened. But You can expect to have a very red face for about five days, by which time you're supposed to be thinking about the next appointment. That was why I didn't carry on with microdermabrasion: the short-term effects would have got in the way of important things like the job interviews I had to attend. If I had a couple of months spare I would book a full course because I know that the redness fades and with each treatment my skin would continue to improve.

I am, however, relatively lucky with scars, so I cannot be sure how successful microdermabrasion is for their treatment. I suspect it can irradicate even deep scars given enough sessions. For example, I have two fairly symmetrical, pitted, pock-like scars on my forehead which I requested the nurse concentrate on. Like I said, that hurt like Hell, but it was worth it because over time their depth has decreased and new skin has replaced the scar tissue. You see, microdermabrasion promotes the growth of new collagen which, in turn, improves the elasticity of your skin. Where once I had a deep wrinkle on my forehead which I could only smoothen out by literally lifting the skin, I now have a faded line and the skin on my forehead is increasingly taut. But like I said before, I attribute this to diet as much as anything.

The bottom line, tracy, is that I don't want to recommend microdermabrasion if you're in a state of mind where, if it were to cause any further damage, you would be further upset. I know how difficult it is to get these ideas out of your head once they pop in there. But, in my personal opinion, I think you should concentrate your efforts on getting on top of your break-out cycle before you consider scar treatment. Once you prevent new acne you'll be amazed at how quickly things improve :) And although microdermabrasion has been advertised as a tool for fighting active acne, in my experience it only makes it worse.

I assume you live in the States. I shall look into the moisturiser I use and see if I can recommend a US equivalent because I have never had any problems with it. Good moisturisation CANNOT be underestimated in the fight to regain smooth, clear skin!

Lastly, don't be afraid to ask more questions!
[QUOTE=Und3rc0v3r]tracy, first off - what makes you say "guys bounce back better than girls"? Do you mean with respect to scar healing or regaining the confidence to be outgoing and not stress about our skin? I don't think there's any biological reason why a girl's skin can't heal faster than a guy's. The only reason I can think of would be if the girl was wearing make-up that caused further break-outs and prevented the pores from breathing properly.

Anyway, as I said in reference to microdermabrasion, it's a double-edged sword. I was DESPERATE to try it and luckily I could afford it. But it's a fairly painful procedure. Firstly your face gets sprayed with tiny, sharp crystals and (if you so ask), problem areas get battered to the point where you have to grit your teeth. Then for good measure a mask is applied to your raw skin that helps protect it from sunlight (since you would burn easily with the top layer missing) and it stings like a ...

But I believe that having dealt with cystic acne I have suffered some of the worst kind of physical pain there is (but no, I haven't been shot in the stomach before). And after the pain the effects are desirable: red marks are evened out and lines and wrinkles smoothened. But You can expect to have a very red face for about five days, by which time you're supposed to be thinking about the next appointment. That was why I didn't carry on with microdermabrasion: the short-term effects would have got in the way of important things like the job interviews I had to attend. If I had a couple of months spare I would book a full course because I know that the redness fades and with each treatment my skin would continue to improve.

I am, however, relatively lucky with scars, so I cannot be sure how successful microdermabrasion is for their treatment. I suspect it can irradicate even deep scars given enough sessions. For example, I have two fairly symmetrical, pitted, pock-like scars on my forehead which I requested the nurse concentrate on. Like I said, that hurt like Hell, but it was worth it because over time their depth has decreased and new skin has replaced the scar tissue. You see, microdermabrasion promotes the growth of new collagen which, in turn, improves the elasticity of your skin. Where once I had a deep wrinkle on my forehead which I could only smoothen out by literally lifting the skin, I now have a faded line and the skin on my forehead is increasingly taut. But like I said before, I attribute this to diet as much as anything.

The bottom line, tracy, is that I don't want to recommend microdermabrasion if you're in a state of mind where, if it were to cause any further damage, you would be further upset. I know how difficult it is to get these ideas out of your head once they pop in there. But, in my personal opinion, I think you should concentrate your efforts on getting on top of your break-out cycle before you consider scar treatment. Once you prevent new acne you'll be amazed at how quickly things improve :) And although microdermabrasion has been advertised as a tool for fighting active acne, in my experience it only makes it worse.

I assume you live in the States. I shall look into the moisturiser I use and see if I can recommend a US equivalent because I have never had any problems with it. Good moisturisation CANNOT be underestimated in the fight to regain smooth, clear skin!

Lastly, don't be afraid to ask more questions![/QUOTE]

Well I think guys are more confident, cuz lets face it they dont look as bad with scars on there face, as girls. The media is always brainwashing us that we have to look a certain way, and I just don't think guys have it as bad. But im not a guy, maybe they do. You know better then me, youre a guy. Anyway I have cured my active acne cuz i have stopped eating carbs and sugar. Also I am taking essential fatty acids. I only take the ones that have no pcb's, or mercury in them. Anyway I did have one question. Since I overdid all those medications I have the tiniest little wrinkles if you look really close to my face. They look really bad. I was wondering if you had these and how microderm abrasion worked for you on these (if you had them) thanks!! :bouncing:
[QUOTE=tracy1970]I really need advice. I have had acne since 13. I am 19 and my acne is pretty much gone now. I am horribly scarred. I think the majority of the reason is tazorac and retin-a. Im a moron. They said apply a dime amount and i litteraly applied like a hand full. (keep in mind this was like 2 years ago) I was desperate! My face was blood red and peeling and i kept putting it on for a long time. Now i have no acne! but I look like a burn victim. And this is still like 2 years later. My forhead, temples, and cheeks look plasticy and wrinkly. I have been like this for a while! when i smile it is awful. Under those stupid hallogen or fluorecent lights i look horrible. My parents say i look okay because at home we have regular bulbs and i look better. I hate going outside because my skin looks like plasticy elephant skin. If i put on moisturizer or any cream for that matter i breakout! I don't know what to do. If I were younger i might heal because growing bodies are constantly shedding skin and growing new skin, but i know i defenitley stopped growing cuz im 19. I also have this deep wrinkle on my forhead. I don't want to do microdermabrasion or lasers or creams because im super sensetive to all that crap and i already look like a tomatoe. Anyway im on about every vitamin you can imagine, and essential fatty acids, and on a diet. I don't know what to do. The best years of my life are getting flushed down the drain. Has anyone had a similar experience, how did it turn out. Any advice! PLEASE HELP! THANK YOU[/QUOTE]


[B]i know exactly how you feel about going outside. my skin looks similar and has all these fine lines, i look older than my older sister! a few years ago i put pro activ bp on my nose and cheek areas and had a bad allergic reaction. the skin there has been redder ever since, and i think i made it worse by using exfoliating products and no sunscreen since then. i have huge pores and fine lines, and oily skin! and am the same as you, unless its due to weather and my skin is really dry, if i put moisturizer or oils anywhere near my face i break out! ive been afraid to go to the derm because of this, afraid they will make it worse, but in the mean time it is worse im getting more lines as the days go by and looka weird combo of older and youndger than my age at the same time (combo nation of some acne and wrinkly skin) i try foundation to cover the redness and make the lines look better, but unfortunately it seems my skin wont stop exfoliating intself and peels alot, so foundation looks obvious,a nd alos highlights my large pores. im about to try lots of vitmains myslef, and am considering birth control pill because right after i get my period is the only time my skin looks anywhere near decent. i also look awful in direct sunlight,and i dont have cystic acne. luckily you are younger than i am so you have better chances of healing i think you should give the products for burn victioms a try, someone on thie board recomemended. absolutely stay away from anything that irritates your skin esp exfoliation. i dotn know if peels will make it worse or better, youd have to do a lot of research before you do that. see people stay stuff works for them,but they never give enough information about thier skin type and their skin history. dont do anything before you research it , you dont want to increase the damage..[/B]





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