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Other people have said it already, but let me say that I am amazed at the healing ability of my skin. And I'm 21 so there's plenty of time for you :) I've found that diet is the biggest controlling factor I have over my active acne AND red marks, and even scars (including premature wrinkles from over-drying).

I used to have a deep wrinkle in my forehead and I always thought I was stuck with it :( And then one day my Grandma remarked on it and I felt awful - she wasn't being mean; she was clearly upset for me that, at 20 years old, I had wrinkling like a forty-year-old. So I resolved that the wrinkle was going to disappear. And a year on and I swear if I was taking photos (I wish I had now), I could see the improvements month after month!

Like I said, I have helped my skin rejuevenate itself through dietary improvements: basically reducing my intake of inflammatory carbohydrates e.g. sugar. If you have smile lines, these will be the first to be reduced by cutting out sugar from your diet. But you said you've already made changes to your diet. Do you think you could be doing any more? I find that if I don't get the correct balance between vegetables and fruit, the sugar in sweeter fruits can cause problems (although nothing as severe as refined sugar).

With respect to my deep forehead wrinkle, in particular, I have conditioned myself NEVER to furrow my brow. If I feel myself doing it I get very annoyed because I know it can't help. Furthermore, I subconciously perform stretching exercises on my forehead by pushing down my eyebrows (if that makes sense ;)). Whilst that does encourage a crease in the ridge of my nose, it doesn't seem to last (with that area having drastically improved due to diet as well).

Another factor that has helped my skin heal itself is good moisturisation. You shouldn't be afraid to moisturise! If you don't provide your skin with enough natural moisture it will compensate with excessive sebum production, as I am sure you are already aware. I am a guy but I still cleanse, tone and moisturise twice daily. I use the Simple range of products that can be bought in the UK.

When it comes to putting other things on your face, I would avoid it for the time being. I have come to learn that treating acne is more about taking things away than adding them to the problem. I desperately wanted a quick solution to my scarring, and last year I had three microdermabrasion treatments. I am sure they helped reduce some of my more pronounced scars and marks, but in the short-term the effects were horrible: at the end of the day they take off the top layer of your skin :eek:

I have also tried Epidermx with success. But for now I leave it in my toiletry bag because again, in the short-term, it leaves my face looking red, grazed, and generally encourages a fight-back from any active acne. Basically, it's taken me nearly eight years to realise it, but our skin behaves the way we want it to when we look after it the wat nature intended. I think you've already learned this lesson too, tracy :)

I appreciate that it's difficult to know who to believe, especially when different things work for different people. But in MY experience, we're in it for the long haul and it's far better to develop a long-term strategy than opt for the easy short-term solution. Trust me: when you start to see improvements, it doesn't matter how gradual they are, the temptation for a quick-fix disappears.
[QUOTE=Und3rc0v3r]Other people have said it already, but let me say that I am amazed at the healing ability of my skin. And I'm 21 so there's plenty of time for you :) I've found that diet is the biggest controlling factor I have over my active acne AND red marks, and even scars (including premature wrinkles from over-drying).

I used to have a deep wrinkle in my forehead and I always thought I was stuck with it :( And then one day my Grandma remarked on it and I felt awful - she wasn't being mean; she was clearly upset for me that, at 20 years old, I had wrinkling like a forty-year-old. So I resolved that the wrinkle was going to disappear. And a year on and I swear if I was taking photos (I wish I had now), I could see the improvements month after month!

Like I said, I have helped my skin rejuevenate itself through dietary improvements: basically reducing my intake of inflammatory carbohydrates e.g. sugar. If you have smile lines, these will be the first to be reduced by cutting out sugar from your diet. But you said you've already made changes to your diet. Do you think you could be doing any more? I find that if I don't get the correct balance between vegetables and fruit, the sugar in sweeter fruits can cause problems (although nothing as severe as refined sugar).

With respect to my deep forehead wrinkle, in particular, I have conditioned myself NEVER to furrow my brow. If I feel myself doing it I get very annoyed because I know it can't help. Furthermore, I subconciously perform stretching exercises on my forehead by pushing down my eyebrows (if that makes sense ;)). Whilst that does encourage a crease in the ridge of my nose, it doesn't seem to last (with that area having drastically improved due to diet as well).

Another factor that has helped my skin heal itself is good moisturisation. You shouldn't be afraid to moisturise! If you don't provide your skin with enough natural moisture it will compensate with excessive sebum production, as I am sure you are already aware. I am a guy but I still cleanse, tone and moisturise twice daily. I use the Simple range of products that can be bought in the UK.

When it comes to putting other things on your face, I would avoid it for the time being. I have come to learn that treating acne is more about taking things away than adding them to the problem. I desperately wanted a quick solution to my scarring, and last year I had three microdermabrasion treatments. I am sure they helped reduce some of my more pronounced scars and marks, but in the short-term the effects were horrible: at the end of the day they take off the top layer of your skin :eek:

I have also tried Epidermx with success. But for now I leave it in my toiletry bag because again, in the short-term, it leaves my face looking red, grazed, and generally encourages a fight-back from any active acne. Basically, it's taken me nearly eight years to realise it, but our skin behaves the way we want it to when we look after it the wat nature intended. I think you've already learned this lesson too, tracy :)

I appreciate that it's difficult to know who to believe, especially when different things work for different people. But in MY experience, we're in it for the long haul and it's far better to develop a long-term strategy than opt for the easy short-term solution. Trust me: when you start to see improvements, it doesn't matter how gradual they are, the temptation for a quick-fix disappears.[/QUOTE]


wow thanks for that story, it definitley makes me feel a lot better, but i think guys bounce back better than girls, either way it still gives me hope, i wanted to know, after you have read my story, do you think microdermabrasion is for me. You told me it got rid of your scars and all. Don't you think that is what helped with your forhead wrinkle? what other kind of scars do you have? like i said, if i moisturize i breakout, and i have tried everything. If you were me, would you do microdermabrasion. I want do it but i just can't find the courage. It would kill me to see my skin get worst, even if it is just temporary. I know one person who said they got 70 percent better after doing microdermabrasion, and others who say it has done nothing for them. Do you have pockmark scars? Sorry for all the questions, and thanks for telling your story.
tracy, first off - what makes you say "guys bounce back better than girls"? Do you mean with respect to scar healing or regaining the confidence to be outgoing and not stress about our skin? I don't think there's any biological reason why a girl's skin can't heal faster than a guy's. The only reason I can think of would be if the girl was wearing make-up that caused further break-outs and prevented the pores from breathing properly.

Anyway, as I said in reference to microdermabrasion, it's a double-edged sword. I was DESPERATE to try it and luckily I could afford it. But it's a fairly painful procedure. Firstly your face gets sprayed with tiny, sharp crystals and (if you so ask), problem areas get battered to the point where you have to grit your teeth. Then for good measure a mask is applied to your raw skin that helps protect it from sunlight (since you would burn easily with the top layer missing) and it stings like a ...

But I believe that having dealt with cystic acne I have suffered some of the worst kind of physical pain there is (but no, I haven't been shot in the stomach before). And after the pain the effects are desirable: red marks are evened out and lines and wrinkles smoothened. But You can expect to have a very red face for about five days, by which time you're supposed to be thinking about the next appointment. That was why I didn't carry on with microdermabrasion: the short-term effects would have got in the way of important things like the job interviews I had to attend. If I had a couple of months spare I would book a full course because I know that the redness fades and with each treatment my skin would continue to improve.

I am, however, relatively lucky with scars, so I cannot be sure how successful microdermabrasion is for their treatment. I suspect it can irradicate even deep scars given enough sessions. For example, I have two fairly symmetrical, pitted, pock-like scars on my forehead which I requested the nurse concentrate on. Like I said, that hurt like Hell, but it was worth it because over time their depth has decreased and new skin has replaced the scar tissue. You see, microdermabrasion promotes the growth of new collagen which, in turn, improves the elasticity of your skin. Where once I had a deep wrinkle on my forehead which I could only smoothen out by literally lifting the skin, I now have a faded line and the skin on my forehead is increasingly taut. But like I said before, I attribute this to diet as much as anything.

The bottom line, tracy, is that I don't want to recommend microdermabrasion if you're in a state of mind where, if it were to cause any further damage, you would be further upset. I know how difficult it is to get these ideas out of your head once they pop in there. But, in my personal opinion, I think you should concentrate your efforts on getting on top of your break-out cycle before you consider scar treatment. Once you prevent new acne you'll be amazed at how quickly things improve :) And although microdermabrasion has been advertised as a tool for fighting active acne, in my experience it only makes it worse.

I assume you live in the States. I shall look into the moisturiser I use and see if I can recommend a US equivalent because I have never had any problems with it. Good moisturisation CANNOT be underestimated in the fight to regain smooth, clear skin!

Lastly, don't be afraid to ask more questions!
[QUOTE=Und3rc0v3r]tracy, first off - what makes you say "guys bounce back better than girls"? Do you mean with respect to scar healing or regaining the confidence to be outgoing and not stress about our skin? I don't think there's any biological reason why a girl's skin can't heal faster than a guy's. The only reason I can think of would be if the girl was wearing make-up that caused further break-outs and prevented the pores from breathing properly.

Anyway, as I said in reference to microdermabrasion, it's a double-edged sword. I was DESPERATE to try it and luckily I could afford it. But it's a fairly painful procedure. Firstly your face gets sprayed with tiny, sharp crystals and (if you so ask), problem areas get battered to the point where you have to grit your teeth. Then for good measure a mask is applied to your raw skin that helps protect it from sunlight (since you would burn easily with the top layer missing) and it stings like a ...

But I believe that having dealt with cystic acne I have suffered some of the worst kind of physical pain there is (but no, I haven't been shot in the stomach before). And after the pain the effects are desirable: red marks are evened out and lines and wrinkles smoothened. But You can expect to have a very red face for about five days, by which time you're supposed to be thinking about the next appointment. That was why I didn't carry on with microdermabrasion: the short-term effects would have got in the way of important things like the job interviews I had to attend. If I had a couple of months spare I would book a full course because I know that the redness fades and with each treatment my skin would continue to improve.

I am, however, relatively lucky with scars, so I cannot be sure how successful microdermabrasion is for their treatment. I suspect it can irradicate even deep scars given enough sessions. For example, I have two fairly symmetrical, pitted, pock-like scars on my forehead which I requested the nurse concentrate on. Like I said, that hurt like Hell, but it was worth it because over time their depth has decreased and new skin has replaced the scar tissue. You see, microdermabrasion promotes the growth of new collagen which, in turn, improves the elasticity of your skin. Where once I had a deep wrinkle on my forehead which I could only smoothen out by literally lifting the skin, I now have a faded line and the skin on my forehead is increasingly taut. But like I said before, I attribute this to diet as much as anything.

The bottom line, tracy, is that I don't want to recommend microdermabrasion if you're in a state of mind where, if it were to cause any further damage, you would be further upset. I know how difficult it is to get these ideas out of your head once they pop in there. But, in my personal opinion, I think you should concentrate your efforts on getting on top of your break-out cycle before you consider scar treatment. Once you prevent new acne you'll be amazed at how quickly things improve :) And although microdermabrasion has been advertised as a tool for fighting active acne, in my experience it only makes it worse.

I assume you live in the States. I shall look into the moisturiser I use and see if I can recommend a US equivalent because I have never had any problems with it. Good moisturisation CANNOT be underestimated in the fight to regain smooth, clear skin!

Lastly, don't be afraid to ask more questions![/QUOTE]

Well I think guys are more confident, cuz lets face it they dont look as bad with scars on there face, as girls. The media is always brainwashing us that we have to look a certain way, and I just don't think guys have it as bad. But im not a guy, maybe they do. You know better then me, youre a guy. Anyway I have cured my active acne cuz i have stopped eating carbs and sugar. Also I am taking essential fatty acids. I only take the ones that have no pcb's, or mercury in them. Anyway I did have one question. Since I overdid all those medications I have the tiniest little wrinkles if you look really close to my face. They look really bad. I was wondering if you had these and how microderm abrasion worked for you on these (if you had them) thanks!! :bouncing:





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