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ErimusValidus I can usually last about 8 weeks on my raw diet, then I have to eat something in the form of carbohydrates, its usually a sandwhich (BLT). But I notice after eating carbs I'm craving for sugar, so I basically stick to my raw diet which consists of :-

Advocado, Tomatoes, Cucumber, Spring Onions, Mixed lettuce, Olive Oil, Carrots, Celery and I mostly eat about 2-3 apples a day. I do treat myself now and again with chicken which was my favorite food before I got acne, I also stay away from fizzy drinks, crisps, sweets etc.
My acne has improved alot since I took on this diet, I got this diet from Wai's diet but that diet includes fish and nuts, which I did try for a month but broke out that bad from what I believe was iodine in the fish and nuts that I had to stop.
I will after my detox and I go onto Activated charcoal and Psyllium husk take on a typical Western Diet and try not to Splurge :-P

once again I would like to thank everyone who has posted here.
[FONT=Comic Sans MS][COLOR=DarkOrchid][B]Hi All[/B] :) Phew, lots of discussion since I last checked in! As always, I'll try to respond to everyones' queries.

Hi [COLOR=Magenta]health15[/COLOR], you sound like someone who's already learnt how to reduce the severity of their acne through diet. I hope this can help you! I take my dose of probiotics every day. Perhaps I could afford to only take it every other day, but I don't want to risk losing progress. Regarding the apple juice during the fasting period, I haven't heard that personally. But I do know that apples are considered one of the safest foods to eat during an elimination diet (whereby you eliminate foods to discover which ones cause new acne), so I don't think it could do any harm. And a bit of fructose will help prevent fatigue if you have to work whilst fasting. Also, I'm not sure about this, but I believe that my regimen has aided my liver function. My reason for thinking this is that I don't experience the kind of stinking hangovers that I ever used to. And when I drink, I really binge drink :eek:

[COLOR=Magenta]lampwick[/COLOR], that's a good question. I myself am quite "skinny". However, I didn't use to be - I weighed 2-3 more stone in my early teens than I do nowadays (I'm 22 now). I believe that I did most of the damage to my digestive system during that period when I mostly ate junk food (and [I]way[/I] too much of it) and offered suffered constipation as a result. But if you've always been skinny and always had regular bowel movements then perhaps this regimen won't be as useful to you as it has been to me. If I wanted to offer you some hope, I could hypothesise that your regular bowel movements might be at the expense of "clean" digestion (as [COLOR=Magenta]primo1[/COLOR] eludes to), but there's absolutely no scientific backing to that :( I'm afraid it's up to you to find out whether or not that is the case. Good luck ;) By the way, I think the thread "ACNE: The New Theory" may help you.

[COLOR=Magenta]Ngfan4lyfe[/COLOR], please check out the rest of the thread when you've got the time. It's boring for other people to have to re-read the same information over and over again :nono: The answer to your first question is on Post 1 of the thread. Regarding a liver cleanse, why don't you search for some information yourself and report back? Take it easy ;)

Well done on finding the [COLOR=RoyalBlue]Lactobacillus casei[/COLOR], [COLOR=Magenta]midnightdoom1[/COLOR]! I hope you can get started properly now :)

[COLOR=Magenta]soupyhead[/COLOR], it's only really myself, [COLOR=Magenta]dfwgoodguy[/COLOR] and [COLOR=Magenta]littledaga[/COLOR] who have really experienced any success with this kind of regimen so far (check out the early pages). But I haven't heard from anybody who [I]hasn't[/I] experienced success with such a regimen. It's up to you whether or not you give this a shot, but if you do please report back with your findings!... LOL, So I read on and see that you've taken the plunge! That's cool :cool: You might as well go ahead without the Yakult. But if you can find an alternative probiotic (specifically [COLOR=RoyalBlue]Lactobacillus casei[/COLOR], since we seem to have established that it's the best strain for this job) then I believe it will help you further. And regarding the [COLOR=RoyalBlue]Charcoal[/COLOR], I know what you mean! But when you feel the effects it has on your insides you will learn to love it!

[COLOR=Magenta]Constant[/COLOR], what's Phion Cleanz? And please describe the taste of death :D I imagine it's something like eating the contents of the capsules I take - that's why they're in capsule form! By the way, I remember you talking about Dr. Natura Colonix. Did you get this? What have you got to report? Thank you!

[COLOR=Magenta]SweetJade1[/COLOR], I'm so glad you have contributed. However, it's late and I'm going to have to save my reply to you 'til tomorrow when I can better understand your wisdom :angel:

Thank you everyone for your questions and input! As always I wish you all the best of luck - you don't have to live with acne and you will beat it! [COLOR=Magenta]EV[/COLOR][/COLOR][/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS][COLOR=DarkOrchid][B]Okay[/B], [COLOR=Magenta]SweetJade1[/COLOR]...

Firstly, sorry for taking a while to reply, but I wanted to set aside some time to prepare a detailed response to your lengthy and insightful contribution to this discussion. I knew it would be interesting and beneficial for myself and others to hear your thoughts on my regimen and I am grateful for your input, not least because I barely understand what has happened to my own skin/body, let alone how to properly advise others :confused:

You obviously have a far greater understanding of detox procedures than I do. I was simply lucky to drop on one that has helped to alleviate my acne so much (99% to date, touch wood). It's clear that there's a gamut of treatments available and, as such, it must be unlikely that my particular regimen will be as successful for everyone as it has been for me (as is obviously the case with most acne treatments). To this end, are you able to explain to everyone how to determine which combination of treatments are best for them?

Also, why do you generally plump for a dietry approach to tackling acne when - at the very least - you seem to be saying here that cleansing offers a substantial boost, complementing a healthy diet? For most of us on these forums (teens and twenty-somethings desperate for a quick fix in line with our busy lifestyles), a remedial treatment is far more practical than the restrictions of an acne-friendly diet, which (in my experience) is somewhat ineffective due to the uphill gradient of having subsisted with a Western diet for so long. I don't seek to rubbish your efforts to convince others to modify their diets (I myself experienced great success with yours and [COLOR=Magenta]prometheus[/COLOR]' dietry advice over a year ago; although, I didn't have the discipline to maintain it), but would you not agree with me there?

Anyway, to answer your questions, I have never tried any of the other cleanses you mention; I am 22; and I [I]did[/I] :bouncing: suffer with painful cystic acne since I was 14. The improvement I have experienced in the last six months has been nothing short of a revelation. I'm not just talking about the cessation of acne, but a dramatic increase in the healing speed of old spots, an increase in suppleness and elasticity, a reduction in pore size, and a general glow to my skin, the like of which I thought I would never see again :)

And it all makes perfect sense to me: if there's a build up of rubbish on the inside, then it must reflect on the outside. But what I don't understand is why some people can eat rubbish without getting acne. That must imply a fundamental biological difference, surely? Perhaps, as you say, they must be paying the price in other aspects of ill health. Indeed, I am one of those people who is almost glad that I have suffered acne [I]because[/I] it highlighted that my body was in need of repair.[/COLOR][/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS][COLOR=DarkOrchid][SIZE=4]Firstly, please let me say [B]sorry[/B] to everyone who's suffering on here. I really didn't intend to harm any of you. It has always been my intention to simply relay the success I have experienced in the hope that others could follow. I myself have not been ill due to my regimen. In general I feel healthier than ever. I really hope that this sickness is temporary for you all and will lead to a healthier digestive system and a reduction in acne.[/SIZE]

Hi [COLOR=Magenta]omega47[/COLOR] :wave: I take the capsules together, generally straight after lunch and dinner.

[COLOR=Magenta]SweetJade1[/COLOR], thank you for such a comprehensive response :) I agree when you say that people consider acne to be an illness per se, and that this is naïve of them. Even more frustrating, some health professionals view and treat acne as a standalone problem.

Case in point: at my first appointment with my GP regarding acne he prescribed [COLOR=RoyalBlue]Benzoyl Peroxide[/COLOR] (10% :eek: ). Not only did this ruin my face (and my clothes and bed linen), but it achieved the undesired effect of [I]worsening[/I] my acne by drying out the skin and promoting higher oil production. I was a hapless teenager desperate to rid myself of this horrible affliction. I trusted the doctor's judgement, but he was so, so wrong :nono: I would never recommend BP to anyone, let alone at that concentration.

Okay, so I went off at a bit of a tangent there. But my point is, the treatment of acne is all too often concerned with the visual improvement of active lesions. What good is that?! According to 99% of the products on the market, acne is a topical problem - occurring at the surface of the skin. That viewpoint is so narrowminded it beggars belief. Products like Clearasil puport the age old myth that acne is caused by poor hygiene. As you said in your earlier post, the belief that the reduction in p. acnes will reduce breakouts is laughable.

As you say, acne is an inflammatory skin condition. That's why yourself and others (myself included) have experienced such success with diets low in inflammatory foods (i.e. simple carbohydrates). However, I used to believe that diet was the only option to enable me to be in full control of my acne: the less sugar I ate, the less likely I was to break out. But now I realise that my body was only [I]temporarily[/I] hypersensitive to inflammatory foods. I have now redressed the balance and am happily in a situation where it is safe, with regards to the condition of my skin, to consume sugary foods again.

My general theory on acne is that is a symptom of the Western diet that our bodies haven't yet evolved to deal with. The fact that it affects some people more than others is a fact of life, just as somebody who's never smoked a cigarette in their life can contract lung cancer whilst a human chimney can avoid it. If acne isn't linked to diet, then what else explains its continual, uncharted rise? I've said it before, I'll say it again: the old adage "You are what you eat" is so true. I don't believe in genetic acne. That's as daft as an overweight person blaming their genes. Just as the overweight individual can get some exercise, the person with acne can find a cure that works for them.

[COLOR=Magenta]soupyhead[/COLOR], I'm sorry I didn't get to reply to your earlier post about your concerns with your bowel movements. Your concern seems to be a recurring theme with other members. Perhaps I have confused the issue. I'm not saying that my regimen will act as an aid to increased bowel movements in the initial stage, but rather it will aid the expulsion of old putrefied matter. And in turn, this may increase your regularity (as well as ensure a cleaner colon). Anyway, I am glad you are back to normal now and I really do hope you start to see signs of improvement in your skin. As you say, constipation and the general build up of rubbish cannot be good for your skin and hopefully your insides are cleaner now.

[COLOR=Magenta]Constant[/COLOR], I know you weren't following my regimen, but I still feel really bad that you've suffered in pursuit of digestive cleansing :( I wish I could make it up to you. I hope [COLOR=Magenta]SweetJade1[/COLOR]'s advice has been useful to you - she's a lot less amatuerish than myself :o I feel awful even though you seem to be putting on a brave face (you seem very happy-go-lucky!). I'm sorry, I really am.

Hello [COLOR=Magenta]serafine[/COLOR] :wave: Firstly, I don't want to tell you how to suck eggs, but I firmly believe less is more when it comes to topical solutions for acne. If it feels like your regimen is complicated and over the top then it probably isn't helping your acne. Anyway, judging from your diet (which I would class as a typical Western diet) I would say that you could experience success like mine. But obviously you've been experiencing constipation like [COLOR=Magenta]soupyhead[/COLOR] and I am very sorry to hear that you are ill, especially at this time in your cycle :( Man do I feel bad now. It probably won't offer much comfort but I imagine that the nausea is caused by the absorption of toxins. When you do have a bowel movement it should subside and then you ought to feel a lot better.

Hi [COLOR=Magenta]marshabrady333[/COLOR] :) I'm sorry that you too have been ill. I'm beginning to think I should have kept my mouth shut - I just wanted to help people :( Like I just said, you were probably ill because your digestive system was in the process of expelling a backlog of toxins. Once that initial cleanse is over you will feel a lot better. Please don't hate me!

[COLOR=Magenta]Anonym0us[/COLOR], thank goodness - a minor success story. Are you saying that you've become more regular on my regimen? And as far as the appearance and consistency of your stool goes, that's normal. It will stop looking so bad (once the build up of waste has all gone) but it will be more solid (and darker) from now on if you carry on taking the supplements.[/COLOR][/FONT]
[QUOTE=ErimusValidus][FONT=Comic Sans MS][COLOR=DarkOrchid][COLOR=Magenta]Anonym0us[/COLOR], thank goodness - a minor success story. Are you saying that you've become more regular on my regimen? And as far as the appearance and consistency of your stool goes, that's normal. It will stop looking so bad (once the build up of waste has all gone) but it will be more solid (and darker) from now on if you carry on taking the supplements.[/COLOR][/FONT][/QUOTE]

yup! im more regular! :bouncing: in fact, i just came from the bathroom to have another "go." that's 3 days in a row! :bouncing: which is very new to me! no new breakouts neither! :angel:

as for the stomach pains, ill, etc. honestly, i didn't feel any. im not saying im better than you guys but i think you should've start taking the pills at the smaller dosage. meaning, if ev's regimen is to take 2x PH and 1x AC twice a day i think you should've only took 1x PH and 1x AC ONCE a day then increase the dosage maybe a week later for your body to get used to it SLOWLY. what i did is i took 2x PH and 1x AC only once a day for the first three days and gradually increased to the required dosage by this regimen. now im on my 2nd week, i didn't feel any negative effects. :angel:

(you can skip this paragraph lol!) not to sound gross or anything but what i have experienced so far is my f*rt smelled horrible than ever! i mean it smells horrible even without eating any food! lol! i know that this is a good thing because IMO and from what i have read, this is a sign that it releases toxins that's why it smells horrible. and my stool is more solid and bigger (lol!) and it's like more of a reptile's skin/more scaly.

goodluck to everyone! :wave:
[QUOTE=pr0ps]to EV and SweetJade, i know that toxins in the body causes acne. but what about the external factors? such as dead skin cells clog the pores and the sebum cannot come out and the bacteria causes inflammation. i strongly believe that toxins in the body causes acne but it confuses me if i included external factors. one example is when my bangs is down (like owen wilson's hair style) and it touches my forehead always, then like 2 days later, 1 to 2 acnes are formed (coincidence?). im getting good results with this regimen but what about the external factors??? if it also cause acne, then that must be very confusing :confused: i know you know the answer so i was wondering if you can clear this out for me. :) :wave:

thanks and your replies would be MUCH appreciated. :)[/QUOTE]

Hi =)

Bacteria and Hyperkertinization (clogged pores) are considered internal factors and they don't really exist (if you take care of other internal factors). Everyone has bacteria as a natural part of our bodies's flora and not everyone has problems with it. In fact well, when it comes to hypersensitivity issues, not everyone will, yet I really think that killing ALL p.acnes bacteria has always been the wrong way to go. Sure perhaps 1 - 10% actually have a bacterial or some other microorganism infection in the skin or body that's primarily causing their acne, but most of us do not.

I know it's REALLY confusing, but if you think about all the products that we use and are successful, not all of them kill bacteria. Most of them directly or indirectly work by reducing inflammation (can cause clogged pores). Antibiotics, some kill bacteria, but some of those ALSO are anti-androgenic (also reduces inflammation), anti-inflammatory (via a different route), pseudo-antioxidant (anti-inflammatory), but of course antibiotics can also increase DHT production (for those with hirsutism or androgenic alopecia), can create another microogranism imbalance (most of us may have this as a secondary cause of acne), can cause Leaky Gut Syndrome (another cause of inflammation and thus acne), and can cause/activate Auto-immune Diseases (some of which have acne as sign and are also inflammatory). So antibiotics are NEVER the route to take unless they can prove a systemic infection or an infection with bacteria that's normally not common to us.

Of course, external factors count too. Dietary changes are considered external. How much water you drink is considered external. Exercising is external. Your laundry detergeants, your skin care, and of course your hair care are all external factors. Ever read Perricone's Acne Prescription? He stops at avoidance, but his is a 3 tiered system: Diet, Supplements, and then Skin Care. So you very well may have multiple factors for why you have acne. Some factors produce a certain type acne and while others may produce a certain amount. Yet there may only be a percentage of improvement achieved from each factor.


For example external produts are probably 10% of my problem. When I eliminate the pore cloggers I don't get breakouts from my skin care anymore, but that was certainly not enough to stop the continuous breakouts I was getting. I used Medications (anti-androgens & insulin sensitizers) as part of the internal solution and while they helped a lot, they weren't as significant as my dietary changes. Notice how my route was the [U]opposite[/U] of perricone's solution (I believe we should start with diet or detoxification first), this is how most people end up where we are today. However, regarding my own external factors, there's certain things I don't put in my hair and when someone is spraying that aerosol spray I dodge them because I don't want any acne from that. I actually get tiny acne or some sort of bumps when I spray Victoria Secret frangrances on my skin, and another girl I know (never breaks out) does also. Again, there's also certain skin care ingredients that breaks me, but interestingly since changing my diet I find that I can actually use products that contain more pore cloggers (not more than a 2 level now), where's as before I was adament about avoiding them (0 - 1 level are what I used).

So if there's something you are putting in your hair that causes you to break out then don't use it or don't let your hair touch your face =P If there's a product you like to use on your skin such as an exfoliator, continue to use it. It will keep your skin young, may help you heal fastor and if you ever get detoxified enough that you don't need it you can just use it occassionally as a boost. There's nothing wrong with having multiple solutions, but you know you aren't doing something right one you NEED multiple medications or tons of HIGH dose supplements, or various acne treatment products. If you are a chronic, long term sufferer or experience severe acne (cystic or nodular or acne all over the body) then you definately may want to further explore and act upon detoxification and/or dietary changes.

Clear things up a bit?
[QUOTE=Constant]That is where my confusion lays and quite frankly good skin without teeth is well not my goal.. :D . I did some searches on it yesterday but proceeded to get myself confused (once again :rolleyes: ) so I think I'll leave that part up to you. :jester:[/QUOTE]

Constant,
LOL, well that is indeed what I've been doing the past few days but unfortunately, figuring this out followed me into my sleep...grrr. I actually had a chance to sleep in an extra hour today, but oh no I woke up at 5, again 6 and after tossing and turning finally gave up and got up 7 =( It's a rare occassion when I'll actually think so much in my sleep, although it's something that I've done when I had a particular troubling chemistry or math problem to work out ;-)

Anyway, since I'm up, while researching the Vitamin C Flush, I came across other supplements that kept ringing bells for me and reminded me of you as well and so I'll mention them below. It turns out that aside from that one source, all the other sources say that we should use Mild, Buffered, Mineral Ascorbates or C-Salts (it's the same thing but different formulas) in the form of L-Ascorbic Acid (bounded to a mineral) to do the Vitamin C Flush as well as when taking Vitamin C daily.


[B]Vitamin C Flush[/B] Vitamin C is a wonderful antioxidant. It boosts Phase II enzymes neccessary for deactivitaing those carcinogens produced from ingesting blackened/burnt foods (certain ethnicities are more prone to this enzyme defficiency). Also boosts energy, relieves depression, is an anti-histamine (less allergic reactions), boosts our immune system, neccessary for collagen formation (bone, skin, muscles, etc), and also a metal detoxifier and helps balance our bodies' natural flora. I even found anecdotal/testimonial information that simply doing this kind of flush can boost ones energy levels tremendously, even those with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (CFS).

To do this. pick a day that you don't have to work (or go to school). You want to take:

* 2 - 3 tsp (could have 2 - 4g of Vit. C) [U]every 30 min [/U] in at least 4 oz of water (or 100% fruit juice or aloe juice) up to 3x.

* If you don't notice a watery diarrhea/ enema-like effect after the third - 30 min dose, start taking 2 - 3 tsps every 15 min until you do.

Make sure you wait until the fizzies stop before drinking (2 min) Once you hit the enema-like effect (expelling liquid from your rectum), the flush has occured and you're done drinking vitamin c for the day. ;-)

You may or may not experience a "Healing Crisis" but because the Vitamin C is killing off (hopefully) certain bacteria, parasites, or yeast in system, they will begin to emit toxins. These toxins should be flushed out as a result of the Vitamin C Flush. However for those of you taking Psyllium and Activiated Charcoal or Bentonite doing so perhaps later in the day or the next day will help absorb & flush what didn't get expelled. Also, below are a list of other supplements you may find helpful as well, especially if dealing with or suspecting candida issues.



1) [B]Vitamin C[/B] - 75% of what's needed to induce a Vitamin C Flush is used daily. Everyone has their own amounts based on how physically stressed their own body is and therefore 1 - 2 g is probably not what most of us will find we need on this board. I know that there's a group of woman that have Insulin Resistance/PCOS and even though they were fasting (for Elimination Diet) they discovered they had HUGE amounts of energy and I couldn't figure out how that could be possible. Well one reason is that they did eliminate foods that induced inflammation and it's signs, but another part was that most of them were also taking Vitamin C. Their doses were anywhere from 12 - 20g/daily, again depending on their individual needs. Now, over time, as the body becomes less defficient, less Vitamin C will be needed. This will be noted, by loose stools. For those wanting to consume Vitamin C, please do so in the forms mentioned previously and to maintain a constant level, take in 4 divided doses, as vitamin c is flushed out within 4 hours time.


2) [B]Molybdenum[/B] - This is important to any of us that consumes sucrose or fructose as this will deplete our molybdenum stores, which is neccessary for their metabolism. This also helps the body expell candida toxins produced as a result of their die off. Candida produces Sulfites and Acetlyaldehydes which [U]can't[/U] be broken down by the liver and are stored in the body. These are actually the "sources" of chemical sensitivities to fragrances or even sulfites found in certain foods we eat resulting in neurological problems such as headaches, brain fog, and as well as pain. [U]200mcg - 1500mcg [/U] of Molybdenum breaks these down into something the liver can either expell or convert. For example Acetylaldehyde (also produced from alcohol consumption) will be broken down into Acetic Acid to be flushed or converted into Acetyl Co Enzyme A! Which may explain an increase in energy that I've heard about as a result of this trace mineral and....perhaps improve our acne (note B5 Therapy is used to boost CoA)


3) [B]Pantethine[/B] - This is the active component of B5, and is much more potent for certain types of diseases. It breaks down Formaldehyde as well as Acetylaldehyde. It boosts our production of Glutathione. It also lowers our cholesterol levels and boosts are ability to produce Omega 3 Fatty Acids! [U]600mg - 1200mg is the daily dosage [/U] and you can also match this with Panthothenic Acid. Also, what I forgot to mention earler is that by breaking down Acetlyaldehyde, this frees us from...Brain Fog, Depression, Pain, etc.


4) [B]Selenium[/B] - This is an antioxidant, helps shed skin cells, boosts glutahione production, and is also a heavy metal detoxifier (mercury, lead, etc). We should take a minimum of 200mcg. We may be able to take more such as 400mcg, but it is a supplement that can be toxic at too high and dose such as 1000mcg for more than a brief period of time.


5) [B]Alpha Lipoic Acid (ALA)[/B] - This is a potent antioxidant and increases the production of Glutathione, a liver detoxifier, more so than NAC. Unfortunately, R-ALA powder doesn't work (turns into rubbery balls), but R-ALA in Gel form does. K-R-ALA and will also work. The reason I'm mentioning only R-ALA, is because it is more potent and less toxic than ALA (50/50 mixture of S & R forms) and as such a typical dose for those Glucose Intolerant (allows some members to cheat) would be 200 - 300mg 15 min before their high carb meal. However for anyone that experiences "Brain Fog" you may also benefit (on a lower dose?) as other members found that this helped them with Brain Fog even when they didn't know whether they were glucose intolerant or not. Of course when they stop taking R-ALA, the brain comes back, but goes away upon continued usage.

Of course I'd be happy to list some name brands for ya, but I've gotta run for now.

Hope all is well =)
@ErimusValidus
I have come to the end of my first week on this regime and I have come to the conclusion that Activated Charcoal works much better than bentonite clay in my honest opinion. My skin has cleared up 90%, I have kept my intake of carbs down to a minimum for the first couple of days, now I eat one carb per day (i.e potatoes, bread). In the beginning I has a small breakout on my chest which I thought could of been the Yakult, as I have allways had a bad reaction to anything dairy, but that went away in 2 days. I have also been cycling to work, well 3 out of 5 days, can't give up my scooter yet. Is it true that if I take these supplements to long my body will come dependant on them and not function normally??
Also about my bowel movements, I am regular, but the stuff thats coming out of me is quite gross, doesn't look normal at all, and over the last 3 days my skin just looks better everyday, my energy levels have picked up also. So glad I read this thread.
Thanks To everyone who's posted here.
[QUOTE=littledaga]@ErimusValidus
I have come to the end of my first week on this regime and I have come to the conclusion that Activated Charcoal works much better than bentonite clay in my honest opinion. My skin has cleared up 90%, I have kept my intake of carbs down to a minimum for the first couple of days, now I eat one carb per day (i.e potatoes, bread). In the beginning I has a small breakout on my chest which I thought could of been the Yakult, as I have allways had a bad reaction to anything dairy, but that went away in 2 days. I have also been cycling to work, well 3 out of 5 days, can't give up my scooter yet. Is it true that if I take these supplements to long my body will come dependant on them and not function normally??
Also about my bowel movements, I am regular, but the stuff thats coming out of me is quite gross, doesn't look normal at all, and over the last 3 days my skin just looks better everyday, my energy levels have picked up also. So glad I read this thread.
Thanks To everyone who's posted here.[/QUOTE]

Thats great news :)

Can you describe to me your EXACT regimen?

Did you do a fast first (if so did you take the supplements)?

Did you have an initial breakout on your face?

Thanks
Hi... I'm sure that everyone educated on this system has answered SO many questions... but I would really really appreciate if mine were answered as well! First off, I would like to say that this has been so inspiring for me to hear/read... and I would love to do it as soon as possible. The only problem is, I don't eat dairy or sugar, so drinking the Yakult is not an option. Are there any alternative products? Or, will it work w/ just the activated charcoal and the psyllium husks? IOnce again, I appreciate any answers you all can contribute and thankyou!!
@omega47, I have been on this regimen for 2 weeks and I can tell you my face and arms are 100% clear, still got a little bit on my legs and back, but it is clearing slowly, EV I have a question is it ok to drink more than 1 yakult a day?, I've been drinking 2 a day, just cause I like the taste now. I have also relaxed my eating habits a little and eat a little bit more carbohydrates, and a little bit more cooked food. and no breakouts, I didn't wash my face last night to see if I could clog a pore and get a spot, but nothing this morning, so I guess my oil production has lowered and pores have shrunk, cause if i did this a month ago, I could guarantee a new spot. This regimen should be tried by everyone, after 1 month I think I'll lower the dosage of supplements , I've had the odd day that I have forgot to take the supplements and I still have regular bowel movements. Keep This Thread updated with success story's please!
[FONT=Comic Sans MS][COLOR=DarkOrchid][COLOR=Magenta]littledaga[/COLOR], I checked out their web site and Yakult say it's fine to drink more than one bottle per day. Although, personally, I still don't exactly [I]like[/I] the taste. And like you said, I think you can afford to miss a day if you forget. For me that's part of the beauty of this regimen: it's no longer a matter of "[I]when[/I] will I break out?!" - it finally feels like [I]I'm[/I] the one in control. But personally I haven't got the guts to see what happens if I skimp on my skincare routine!

I wouldn't be surprised if your pores are already tightening. Mine have gradually shrunk down so much that even the ones that I thought were permanently damaged (in the aftermath of particularly bad cysts) are almost invisible now :) And as far as your eating habits go, I do believe - in time - you should be able to eat the foods you feel like eating (in moderation) without worrying about your skin. But please, [B]please[/B] be honest and let everyone know if you do have any setbacks and try to pinpoint the cause. Thank you ;)

Likewise, [COLOR=Magenta]omega47[/COLOR], although I truly hope a miracle has occurred for you, please tell us about the negative aspects of your progress under this regimen as well as the positive. It might be really helpful to others if we can compile a list of things to expect/traps to avoid etc. Thanks to you too :cool:

[COLOR=Magenta]n0_name[/COLOR], as [COLOR=Magenta]Diggler[/COLOR] says, you get most of the fibre you need from your general diet. And as [COLOR=Magenta]Diggler[/COLOR] also points out, the best sources are fresh (i.e. uncooked) fruit and root vegetables which are full of nutrients which are best absorbed in the presence of fibre. The benefit of [COLOR=RoyalBlue]Psyllium Husks[/COLOR] is that they are a soluble source of fibre and, as such, expand in your digestive system to greater aid digestion.

Hi there [COLOR=Magenta]bsg17[/COLOR] :wave: Welcome to this thread and Healthboards in general :) As I posted earlier, [COLOR=RoyalBlue]Activated Charcoal[/COLOR] (in the form I am talking about) is not quite the same as barbecue charcoal because it is derived from vegetables as opposed to timber. But I believe there are sources that come from wood which are used in other applications such as gas masks. The same principle applies: the large surface area of the charcoal absorbs a source of poison, thus diverting it from the entity it is employed to protect. You learn something new everyday, eh!

Anyway, I figured it couldn't do any harm to make an update of my own. In recent weeks I haven't seen any new acne [B]at all[/B]. Honestly, some days, I think I'm going to wake up and all this will have been a beautiful dream (and I hope everyone else here will feel like that soon). What I [I]have[/I] experienced, however, is the expulsion of the fat deposits under my eyes. I've had these non-acne whiteheads under my eyes for years (only three in total). I believe they're a sign of too much fat in the diet and I think they manifested themselves when my diet was at its worse in my early teenage years.

Well in the last couple of weeks they have slowly been expelled from my skin. I wasn't tempted to pick at them in case it made things worse - I just let them come out naturally. And they have - perfectly cleanly! And I thought I was stuck with them forever. That's the power of this regimen. As I said in my initial posts, the overall condition of my skin is remarkable these days. At the moment I have just one under-the-surface whitehead on my forehead left to come out. It's been threatening for weeks now, but it justs stays there totally harmless.

If I had such a whitehead beforehand, I could guarantee that it would come out as a messy cyst within a day or two of seeing it under the surface, and would generally return in a month-long cycle of misery. Like I said, somebody pinch me :D Meanwhile, I have decided to cut back on my regimen. I am now only taking the supplements once a day instead of twice and I am still taking one Yakult per day. I will experiement with this level for about a month before considering to cut back even more.[COLOR=Magenta]

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Hi everyone,

ErimusValidus, SweetJade1, and anyone else, what do you think about the following products that I recently ordered:

1. GNC Natural Brand Psyllium Seed Husk 500 mg, Capsules

2. GNC Natural Brand Activated Charcoal 260 mg, Capsules

3. Biogenica Biotica Probiotic Formula, Capsules

Here are the supplement facts of my probiotic:

Lactobacillus Acidophilus 750 Million CFU*
Bifidobactarium Longum 750 Million CFU*
Lactobacillus Casei 372 Million CFU*
Lactobacillus Salivarius 360 Million CFU*
Dahulin PB Dahlia inulin juice complex 450 mg*
BioMOS Mannan oligosaccharide complex 150 mg*

Also, has anyone else had success with this regimen? Some people have not posted their results yet.

Thanks
hey again everyone..so i've been on this lil program for about two weeks now..mm it seemed like it was working for the 1st week..i mean i stayed relatively clear for a good period of time..but iono..im starting to believe it was just a coincidence that I had a clear-skin session when I first started the program. But my periodic acne has returned like it usually does. I dunno. Maybe a digestive cleanse wasnt the right solution for me. Although I am sure it has great benefits for my body as a whole, it does not seem to be directly aiding my acne problem. I dunno I will stay on these supplements just because I feel less bloated when I eat. But I don't think I will rely on them to cure my everlasting acne problem. *big sigh*..i dunno maybe theres still a chance this program will give me some permanent results if I stay on it..but as of now..i'm still pretty regular on the new pimples..congrats on those who did receive great results with the digestive cleanse..if anyone would like to comment on how long it took for them to really see noticable results..plz feel free to share..thanks a lot..and thanks erimus for letting me learn more about my body and the need for cleansing, whether it be for an acne problem or not.
hiii again everyone..yay yummy posts to read..so it seems that in general i should wait about a month to see if I am really getting any major results..that can be done..hmm..maybe i shall try a 36 hour fast like lildaga says..haha man that 24hr one was so tough i hope i can do 36..just one question for lildaga..on your 2nd fast, which lasted 36hrs, did you get the mucous stool thing that is suppoed to come out of you when you empty your system? i'm wondering if I will ever get that type of stool..maybe i already did but it was unnoticable? Has this been the case for everyone or will I DEFINATELY know when that stuff comes out..i mean before i started this program, i've always been a pretty healthy eater avoiding most processed foods and drinking lossa water. I shall be patient tho and keep trying. As for the specifics of my supplements, since I am from the US, I could not find the Holland and BArrett brand so I went to GNC to get their Natural GNC Brand Psyllium Husk and Activated Charcoal. I've been taking 2 psylliums and 1 activated charcoals twice daily (total 4 psy and 2 activ in a day). Is the GNC Brand gonna differ a lot from the H & B Brand? Did anyone else use the GNC brand and receive great results? And for the probiotic I drink one yakult a day. I found the yakult at a small asian health store so I know its possible to find in the US. These are the only supplements I take b/c I've never been a fan of taking a buncha pills and stuff. But I decided to try this program. I just wash my face in the morning and at night with my daily cleanser. Yep so thats the 411 on what I've been doing. As for results, it still seems i'm getting regular pimples pop up here and there. But i dunno maybe its better compared to b4 i started this program and it was too long ago that I forgot? haha :confused: ..i guess no MAJOR differences yet but i will keep everyone updated

New Goal: Complete a 36 hour fast. (hopefully with no flu affect :p )
Well, I just ordered the whole colon cleanse system from DrNatura. Did anyone try this specific one? It is more expensive, but quick and easy. I read through many pages on this post (sorry not all of them) and I was wondering when did everyone start taking the probiotics? It seems like a waste of money to take them during the cleanse. Aren't you just flushing them out? I was thinking of doing the cleanse for 30 days and starting the probiotics after about 3 weeks.

I am also nervous about the initial breakout. Did everyone have one? I already went through that when I started retinA micro and my face is doing so much better. But I am always searching for better skin. It is a dream to someday go without makeup out in public and feel good.:angel:
Also, on DrNatura's website there is a lot of testimonials about all kinds of crazy stuff coming out of people. Not to be gross, but did anyone see stuff that looked like worms and parasites? :eek:

Also, is it a smart idea to start taking everything on the weekend? Are you in the bathroom a lot after the first day?
Thanks for any input, sorry if any of this stuff has already been discussed.
[FONT=Comic Sans MS][COLOR=DarkOrchid]Hi [COLOR=Magenta]senoflys[/COLOR] :wave: Please excuse me for taking so long to reply to your questions. Regarding Epidermx, I have used it in the past and found it to be very effective at literally grinding down old cysts and helping red marks to fade. But it has the negative effect of reddening one's face. And beware of using it on active acne. Some people claim that it helped theirs, but in my experience it causes cross-infection and only angers new outbreaks. Since using Epidermx and also having two microdermabrasion treatments (very painful) I have resolved that the best healer for my old acne is time (although I do ensure a regular turnover of new skin cells by exfoliating daily). It's miraculous enough just for me to be free of new breakouts :) I truly wish that you get there too :angel:

[COLOR=Magenta]Kelly03[/COLOR], I should probably post this on your thread, really, but I'm short of time at the moment. I looked into a liver cleanse and discovered that one is supposed to undertake a parasite cleanse in preparation, using [COLOR=RoyalBlue]Black Walnut Hulls[/COLOR], [COLOR=RoyalBlue]Wormwood[/COLOR], and [COLOR=RoyalBlue]Cloves[/COLOR]. Hence I sought the ingredients at the health food and herb stores in my town, but even the Chinese herbalist didn't have a clue about what I was looking for :D I considered buying some [COLOR=RoyalBlue]Milk Thistle[/COLOR] but I thought I ought to do things in the correct order. So that's on hold for the mean time until I have more time to research it.

If you're still experiencing an initial breakout then hold on in there - it [I]will[/I] pass. There's an accumulation of rubbish in your digestive system that is suddenly being coaxed out and unfortunately there's no easy way out for it. Please update us of your progress!

I'm sorry to hear about your diarrhoea, [COLOR=Magenta]omega47[/COLOR]. It does seem that the supplements affect different people in different ways. As [COLOR=Magenta]Anonym0us[/COLOR] says, you might consider taking the lowest dose possible to begin with and build up from there. Regarding the pressure in your life, like your dematologist I also feel that it could be affecting the condition of your skin. I know it is very hard but try not to focus on your skin. Concentrate on your new school term and be patient with your acne because I'm afraid it won't go away overnight. Did you speak to your dermatologist about the cleanse, by the way? I was thinking of contacting my old dermatologist to get his opinion about this regimen.

[COLOR=Magenta]heymikey1981[/COLOR], I don't see why you can't combine this regimen with accutane. I suppose you are worried that the supplements will flush the accutane out of your system. I believe that's doubtful to be the case, but it if bothers you then take the pills a few hours apart so that the accutane can get to work before the other supplements do.

Hello [COLOR=Magenta]blah-de-blah[/COLOR] :cool: I think an initial breakout is quite likely on this regimen, as [COLOR=Magenta]Kelly03[/COLOR] exemplifies, and its severity probably depends on how inefficient your digestive system has become. I'm afraid the only real way to find out is to try it for yourself. Good luck ;)

Hi [COLOR=Magenta]health15[/COLOR] :) Another member already asked me about Dr Natura's Colon Cleanse and we established that the fundamental ingredients were the same as those of my regimen. I'm sure you'll take heart from the testimonials on the web site where people claim that their acne has cleared up. If you have concerns about the changes in your toilet habits then I do advise that you start on a Friday evening with a free weekend ahead of you. And, yes, we think it is best to wait until the initial cleanse is over before starting the probiotics. But overall, don't be nervous about cleansing your digestive system - you will look back on it as the best thing you've done in years! The benefits don't end with your skin. I am confident that you will realise your dream of having the confidence to go without makeup.

I'm very happy to hear about your success [COLOR=Magenta]Anonym0us[/COLOR] :) It is wonderful to hear that you are free of topical medication. All they do is exacerbate the problem by making the bacteria more resistant and over-drying your skin. Hopefully you have broken the cycle and can experience a period of genuine clarity. And long may it last!

Hi there [COLOR=Magenta]c0nfused[/COLOR]! It sounds like you've cottoned on to the idea of combining the various regimens that are "fashionable" on the boards at the moment. And that's a good thing! Exercise will definitely help your skin maintain its youthfulness. I also use a steam room at least once a week. I believe it has aided the shrinking of my enlarged pores which I used to think were ruined forever!

I don't know about skin-organ relationships but I also want to learn more. I have tried searching but to no avail. I am sure somebody will provide useful information on [COLOR=Magenta]soupyhead[/COLOR]'s thread :)

Stay happy everyone :cool: [COLOR=Magenta]EV[/COLOR]
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*sigh*..hey again everyone..here for another update..so i think its been almost a month now since i've been on this Digestive cleanses. I've been taking the psyllium husks, the activated charcoal, the yakult, everyday now. I dunno. I still feel like i'm getting the usually new pimples every two days or so. I know some people had results after 4 weeks and i'm already almost at 4 weeks. But it just seems like my acne has not been "cured". I know this cleanse is great for my colons, i would highly recommend that everyone do it just for an internal cleanse (which might help your acne too). but as for me, i don't think it is going to be my only solution to crystal clear skin. I am very much against using pills to resolve my problems (i.e accutane), because my acne is mild-moderate, but i occasionally get the large cysts and i don't want to deal with it anymore. My oil is the main problem and i know accutane is supposed to fix that. I dunno i want all of this to be over.
[FONT=Comic Sans MS][COLOR=DarkOrchid]Hi [COLOR=Magenta]infinityox[/COLOR] :) I live in the UK and I buy my supplements from Holland & Barrett. You can check out the first post to see my regimen.

[COLOR=Magenta]health15[/COLOR], it's hard for me to tell whether or not my regimen causes fatigue because I lead quite a demanding and tiring lifestyle as it is! Sometimes, however, I feel [I]totally[/I] knocked out when my intake of simple carbohydrates is too high. I get the initial buzz and then the prolonged slump :( I've got a feeling that the supplements may have exacerbated this phenomenon, but I don't know why...

If you're feeling fatigued, though, I can definitely recommend trying to avoid simple carbohydrates and substituting slow-burning, complex carbohydrates in their place. You'll feel less burdened by the contents of your stomach and more alert as a consequence :cool: I also recommend drinking lots and lots of water (not just on this regimen, but as a general lifestyle choice) which I find helps to keep me awake. If you're used to drinking fizzy drinks/soda then this will make a big difference. But I suspect you're wiser than that ;)

Hey [COLOR=Magenta]Anonym0us[/COLOR]! I don't know about the specific effects of alcohol on the digestive system. I'd be more inclined to suspect the foods that you ate before/after your binge (I hope you had a good night by the way ;)) because they were probably predominantly stodgy carbohydrates (e.g. chips, sandwiches?) as opposed to fibrous ones (i.e. vegetables).

This applies to [COLOR=Magenta]Sossy[/COLOR] (hi, by the way :wave: ) and everyone else who's experiencing constipation: this regimen isn't necessarily about making you more "regular"; it's about improving the efficiency of your digestive system in terms of how it deals with toxins. It is very important that you are regular if you want to achieve clear skin (if what you eat doesn't get expelled within 24 hours then it will be causing you harm, in my opinion). In order to become more regular you may have to make some considerable lifestyle modifications. For example:

1. Eat more vegetables, especially fibrous ones and preferably those highest in nutrients and vitamins (such data is readily available online and the choice is wide enough to suit even the fussiest of pallets :D)

2. Take regular exercise. I can't stress enough how important this is for overall health, but if you do it for just one reason then let the elimination of acne be your motivation! If you don't exercise enough then you can't expect to have regular bowel movements. If you are slothful, then your digestive system will be, too :nono:

3. Consider taking extra [COLOR=RoyalBlue]Vitamin C[/COLOR] to aid digestion. You don't have to take a lot - perhaps 500mg twice a day.

4. Drink plenty of water and [I]only[/I] water. Water is essential for the effective and efficient digestion of food.

I'm sorry to hear you're still breaking out [COLOR=Magenta]soupyhead[/COLOR] :( Forehead acne is one of the most stubborn types to conquer, though. And I agree that it is a sign of poor digestion (if only I'd known when I was younger...). I can only advise that you hold on in there for the time being and hope that the situation calms down in a couple of months. Like I've said before, this is not an overnight cure. It takes patience and faith. I don't think you, or anybody here, has had enough time to fully determine whether or not this regimen has worked for them.[/COLOR][/FONT]
Well, there has been a lot of discussion about the cleanse, but I was wondering if we can all update each other on how our acne is? Can everyone state how long they have been doing the cleanse, type of acne, and how it has improved? Thanks.

I have been doing the cleanse for almost 3 weeks. The last week, I also started an anti-candida diet. (lots of restrictions but the main thing is no sugar). My acne is definately better. I only have 2 small bumps on my jawline and old acne marks that are slowly fading. (I am also using retinA micro, green cream, and clinamycin gel). I had mild to no acne my whole life until this last year. It changed to moderate, and has been harder to get rid of then ever before. So, I am very happy to just have the old marks to deal with. (knock on wood). Oh, my eczema on my hands is almost gone! :)
[FONT=Comic Sans MS][COLOR=DarkOrchid]Okay, time for me to reply to everyone's posts I think! Sorry guys - been very busy at work lately!

[COLOR=Magenta]littledaga[/COLOR], this is going back a bit, but you mentioned avoiding beer. That's a good idea. If you can stand to make such sacrifices for the time being, then do so because it will help you in the long-run. If you want to drink, then stick to spirits with mixers and have one glass of water to every alcoholic drink. Your head and mouth will thank for that in the morning, too ;)

Regarding your washing routine, I would recommend using a cleanser and astringent of some kind. A cream cleanser (i.e. not soap) will remove surface debris and dirt from the day and the toner will clease the pores. It's best to use warm water with the cleanser in order to open the pores. I also recommend using a clay or mud based mask at least once a week to perform a deeper cleanse.

And, yes, [COLOR=RoyalBlue]Vitamin C[/COLOR] will aid your digestion and is proven to assist the production of new skin cells.

Hang in there, [COLOR=Magenta]omega47[/COLOR]. I too have fast metabolism and that's where I think a lot of my problems stemmed from. I believe that the faster we burn our food, the less cleanly it is processed. This regimen helps to reduce the waste by-products of digestion.

Hi [COLOR=Magenta]Jelohi[/COLOR] :) I'm afraid I wouldn't like to say for sure whether or not a digestive system cleanse would be safe for you in your condition. I can't think of any reason why, but perhaps it's best to consult your GP.

[COLOR=Magenta]c0nfused[/COLOR], maybe the problem you have is that you are playing around with your skin too much. Topical solutions generally do more harm than good in my opinion. The more you apply, the more you are touching your face. This promotes cross-infection of pores by the spreading of bacteria. Also, the more you dry out your face, the more sebum your sebaceous glands will produce in response. You need to maintain a balance. I know it's really hard to resist putting things on your face, but consider why you are doing it. You do it to treat the symptoms of acne. You need to treat the causes!

Hello [COLOR=Magenta]lainrosuta[/COLOR]! As you say, this regimen doesn't have to be about weight loss. That is one possible side-effect, but really it's about taking the burden off your digestive system so that the side-effects aren't evident on your skin. Just think about it, our ancestors didn't eat the amount of stodgy rubbish that we eat nowadays. It's no wonder our skin gets in a state!

So, you've experienced a productive cleanse, by the sounds of it. You will feel better for it, and hopefully you will see more results on your face sooner rather than later. Please keep us updated with your progress!

[COLOR=Magenta]Technicolor[/COLOR], you crack me up girl! I can see that you're not exactly enjoying this regimen (well, its ingredients, at least), but you've got the right attitude towards all this: don't be afraid to try different things, use your common sense, and stay positive. Good on you! I'm rooting for you all the way to be clear by next summer :cool: By the way, by "black marks", do you mean blackheads?

[COLOR=Magenta]Anonym0us[/COLOR], you've got exactly the right idea about how to treat your skin on the surface: less is more! The [COLOR=RoyalBlue]Essential Fatty Acids[/COLOR] you are taking will be beneficial to you. Like I said, it's all about experimentation. I'm glad to hear that you're testing things for yourself!

[COLOR=Magenta]health15[/COLOR], what would you say has been the biggest factor in your recent improvements? If you have really cut out sugar then that's probably the one. But hopefully you can cleanse your digestive system to a level whereby you can afford to indulge your sweet tooth every so often. Keep us updated please!

[COLOR=Magenta]soupyhead[/COLOR], I'm glad to hear things are looking up for you now!

[COLOR=Magenta]aida amador[/COLOR], I could talk for a long time about the subject of scars and marks, and I will if you want me to, but I'm flagging a bit now. Let me just say that lately I have been having immense success with [COLOR=RoyalBlue]Glycolic Acid[/COLOR] (30% concentration), which I would put on a par with microdermabrasion, except that it's better because it's not so extreme. As [COLOR=Magenta]Technicolor[/COLOR] says, though, it would help us if you could describe your scars/marks.

As a general note - everyone seems positive here, and that's wonderful. The worst thing you can do about acne is dwell on it in a negative light. Even if things are progressing as well as you all hoped, stick at your various regimens and stay positive. You've got the best support network available here! And I don't care if that sounds cheesy :D
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[FONT=Comic Sans MS][COLOR=DarkOrchid]Hi guys :cool: I've been meaning to reply to some questions for a while - sorry for taking a while.

[COLOR=Magenta]tata77[/COLOR], I am sorry that this regimen hasn't exactly worked out for you. But I am glad that you have seen for yourself the connection between diet and acne. I wish you the very best of luck in whatever measures you take to improve your skin. Perhaps alternative cleanses are the answer for you.

[COLOR=Magenta]AznHisoka[/COLOR], I considered performing a liver cleanse but I really don't see the point now since I very rarely get new acne now. Also, as you have eluded to, a liver cleanse is a complex and unpleasant procedure. Whilst my regimen might not be strict, it should give you some level of improvement over the course of a few months.

I am really happy for you, [COLOR=Magenta]health15[/COLOR], and I hope your progress continues :) As you say, with winter upon us I recommend that you prevent your skin from over-drying since this will promote an increase in sebum production. Don't be afraid to reduce the retin-a and apply more moisturiser in its place. If things are improving from the inside then you can afford to slacken off the topical measures against acne; they just dry out your skin and rob you off your youthful glow. Get it back!

I'm glad to hear that things are steadily improving for you, [COLOR=Magenta]jac1976[/COLOR]! It does take time, believe me. But you are noticing the things that I first started to notice: the cysts are less stubborn and less prone to scarring. I don't really know about your dosage. It probably varies from person to person, but don't be afraid to increase the dosage - just experiment! Good luck ;)

[COLOR=Magenta]Hyde[/COLOR], thanks very much for updating us! Please do so regularly, whatever happens. I don't mean to blow my own trumpet, but it's nice to have another convert... I just wish everyone could experience success like yours :confused: The smoothness is wonderful, isn't it! I think it's because there's less rubbish in your pores; they are breathing more clearly than they have for years!

[COLOR=RoyalBlue]Vitamin C[/COLOR] might be a good idea for you as might some kind of essential fatty acid such as [COLOR=RoyalBlue]Flaxseed[/COLOR] in order to combat the shedding. Also, don't underestimate the importance of a good moisturiser. Open up your pores with warm water in the morning and wash with a gentle cleanser, tone and then moisturise to seal in moisture.

Hi, [COLOR=Magenta]blah-de-blah[/COLOR] :wave: When I first started this regimen I was a lot more strict with what I ate than I am these days. For me it seems like the regimen does allow me to get away with eating the kind of foods that are typically associated with the exacerbation of acne. But if I were you I would stick to strict diet for a while to give yourself the best chance of results, as [COLOR=Magenta]AznHisoka[/COLOR] advises.

In fact, a diet rich in "skin foods" is essential at all times. Although I eat my fair share of junk food nowadays I also ensure to eat at least five portions of fruit and vegetables every day. The vegetables must not be over-processed; I eat lightly boiled broccoli, sugar snap peas, cabbage, kale, spinach, mange-tout, green beans, etc. And if you haven't been taking a probiotic then I definitely recommend it!

Gaining weight might be difficult on this regimen, I'm afraid. But my advice to you is to get on top of your skin first and then worry about your weight. Again, as [COLOR=Magenta]AznHisoka[/COLOR] says, don't overeat on this regimen - eat until you are pleasantly full so your digestive system is not burdened. Things might get worse before they improve because a build up of toxins is being flushed from your system, with the result being new acne. But once that's over things should get better!

[COLOR=Magenta]Stylianfire[/COLOR], I believe any probiotic will be beneficial to you. And in terms of breakfast, try some fresh fruit instead of the typical Western diet choices such as toast and cereal. A grapefruit (which is what I have), for instance, will fill you up until elevenses and is proven to combat early morning hunger pangs; whereas, sugary cereal makes cravings for sugar worse throughout the day.

Don't worry too much about the fast. It just gives the regimen a kick-start but I don't think it's essential and could be dangerous in your case. In terms of exercise, I definitely believe it is important. I like to run but I know that the cold puts you off. But indoors you can perform some crunches, star jumps, squat thrusts, maybe some rope skipping... be imaginative! And regarding people in the military, I believe they have good skin because their diet is more rigid than a civilian diet. I've never really figured out for myself how much of a factor stress is in relation to acne.

An update from me: Lately I have been playing Le Bon Viveur (as my colleague calls it) a bit too much! Too many late nights and too much alcohol (and too much junk food thanks to the munchies :D) has led to the occasional outbreak. But these new spots won't ever last more than three days; proof (to me at least) that I have taken control of the acne cycle, because they used to last for weeks sometimes. But I've decided it's time to push things on to the next level.

To me, healthy skin is about more than not having acne; it's about preventing lines and wrinkles, banishing puffiness, achieving a natural matte look, and having fine pores. So no drink until Christmas, no junk food, no eating after 20.00, regular steaming and no skimping on general skincare. But then again I let my dad twist my arm and I had a half a Löwenbräu last night :rolleyes: Still, it was better for me that Coke![/COLOR][/FONT]
where has everyone gone? not a post since christmas? :confused:
[FONT=Comic Sans MS][COLOR=DarkOrchid]Hi guys,

First, let's set the record straight: I'm a (22 year-old) guy! Maybe you were deceived by my choice of colour scheme, [COLOR=Magenta]tata77[/COLOR]! How's it going, by the way? :)

Hello, [COLOR=Magenta]Abbath[/COLOR] :cool: [COLOR=RoyalBlue]Primadophilus[/COLOR] doesn't contain the same culture of probiotics as [COLOR=RoyalBlue]Yakult[/COLOR], but the general concensus on this thread has so far been that any probiotic will aid the cleansing process and promote a healthier digestive system. I wouldn't worry too much about the specifics!

Hi there, [COLOR=Magenta]acnefreedom7[/COLOR] :wave: Thanks for your advice. The temptation for me has been to inform people of the potential benefits to this regimen and to turn a blind eye to any potential negative aspects. I haven't fully researched the nature of [COLOR=RoyalBlue]Activated Charcoal[/COLOR] in terms of what it absorbs, but I suppose it is equally likely to absorb nutrients as it is to absorb toxins. In light of this, my advice to people would be to consume a regular high quantity of nutrient-rich foods, principally vegetables. I am lucky that I actually [I]like[/I] vegetables, but even if you don't, I recommend that everyone gets their five portions of fruit or vegetables a day. Your skin will thank you for it!

Hello again, [COLOR=Magenta]vintagedream[/COLOR]! Don't worry, I will check these boards regularly to see what's going on :) Okay, if you're constipated then you should probably feel optimistic with respect to your skin about the prospect of a cleanse. The theory goes that if there's a build up of waste in your system then it is manifesting its effects on your skin. It sounds unlikely that your acne is primarily hormonal since it has only really affected you in the last couple of years into your twenties. So take heart and have some confidence. I do fully appreciate your plight, believe me. Us blokes get hung up about our appearance, too, you know!

You're absolutely correct about topical solutions: they are only short-term. Acne is partly caused by bacteria, yes, and when you attack that bacteria with anti-biotics (in the form of creams or pills), it will cease to cause acne for a while. But eventually it develops an immunity to the anti-biotic and returns with a vengeance :( I wish doctors would recognise this instead of handing out anti-biotics to acne sufferers like sweets, because they cause more harm than good in the long run. That's not to say that regular use of a [I]gentle[/I] cleanser, toner and moisturiser should be forgone (thankfully girls seem to realise this already!). Keeping the pores clean on the outside is definitely part of the battle.

Regarding the initial breakout, I really wouldn't worry too much. You'll only be eliminating toxins that would have to be removed at some point anyway. What the clease achieves is to level the playing field for your digestive system, aiding its function of removing toxins. So there will most likely be some new acne as a result of the cleanse but it's worth it in the long term and it won't be horrendous. Some people on here didn't experience it at all. I make any promises, basically. But good luck ;)

Many thanks for the update, [COLOR=Magenta]Anonym0us[/COLOR]! I'm so glad it's still going well for you. I don't expect plaudits for accidentally coming across a regimen that has helped me, but it makes me feel great to know that I have helped others. It makes me feel that the seven years I battled with acne weren't suffered in vain.[/COLOR][/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS][COLOR=DarkOrchid]Hello [COLOR=Magenta]vintagedream[/COLOR], I hope you're doing okay :)

My acne used to consist of painful cysts mostly on my forehead, chin, jawline and neck, but sometimes my cheeks and nose, too. I also used to have blackheads on my nose and forehead. I used to get a new cyst every two-three days on average. Sometimes they weren't so bad but sometimes they were incredibly stubborn. I still have the evidence of some of those :( (But, like I told you, the [COLOR=RoyalBlue]Glycolic Acid[/COLOR] is working miracles!)

I [I]do[/I] still get spots occasionally but I wouldn't consider myself to have acne. I just get them when I get lazy about my skincare routine, have too many late nights, or drink too much alcohol/eat an excessive amount of junk food - basically the kind of things that cause everyone to get spots. My boss who's in his late thirties has this problem right now because he's worked [I]way[/I] to hard. He was fresh-faced before he joined the company.

I'm sure a mud mask will be fine for your skin. You are correct that it will absorb oil and impurities. Just don't leave it on for too long (an hour at the most). Concerning the fast, yes you can eat normally afterwards. [COLOR=RoyalBlue]Pysllium Husk[/COLOR] is a form of [I]soluble[/I] or dietary fibre, hence it absorbs toxins. Your stomach will thank you for it! As you say, you should consume a good amount of dietary fibre to remain "regular" :D

Hmm, personal problems... as me again on Saturday morning![/COLOR][/FONT]





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