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Hi Knut,
How's it going? I teach 2nd grade. It's my first year. I absolutely love it! I have a great class..but there's just so much to do...especially being a first year teacher. I'm sure that stress doesn't help my face. What do you do for work?
Anyways, thanks for the recommednations on some products. I'm definitely looking to change. I'd like to give that face wash a shot. I feel so overwhelmed sometimes. There are sooo many products and I feel like I'm constantly throwing away my money and who knows...making my face worse by trying all different stuff. It sounds like you and I have similar skin types. I'm not extremely fair, but my skin is definitely on the lighter side. I'm very excited to try what you recommended about Tazorac. I've being use it on/off for a few months now...not at all consistently...and it's just been harsh. I get the redness and peeling too. I have never thought to wash it off.
Today I woke up with two new good ones brewing on my jaw line. Just when I thought this week was looking better...Hopefully I can do something to prevent them from becoming full blown. We have a Halloween party and a birthday party this weekend...and here I go again...worrying about my face. You and I are definitely on the same page when it comes to that. Whenever I think long term about anything...I always think about my complexion.
How long have you been dealing with this problem? I've never had great's always been a little combination and I would get the occasional breakout. I got on ortho-tryclen about 4 years ago...and that seemed to take care of any minor breakout. About a little more than a year was probably last face started acting up. I went to the Derm for the first time last Oct. and she put me on minocycline. By Thanksgiving my skin was nice. This period of niceness lasted all the way until...late April/early May...Thats when my jaw line and predominately the lower part of my face begain to breakout. Ever since then, it's been an on again/off again struggle. There hasnt been any extended period of clearness since April. In June, the derm switched me from Mino to Ery Tabs. I think they have done absolutely nothing...but I"m still taking them.
Early April I switched to Ortho-try LO....and that seemed to cause a big breakout. I switched back to regular Ortho by June. Who knows how much trouble that caused in the long run...
Whatever the case, I'm 23 years old. I feel like I'm way too old for this nonsense. I'm so embarrassed by my face sometimes. I'm really, really hoping Yasmin is our answer. I can't wait to start!! I'm going to be devestated if it doesn't work for me.
Do you ever steam your face? I've been a big kicks with that too. It sounds like it would make sense. I'm not sure if it helps or not. Obviously not alot. Oh well.
Alright, good chatting with you. I have a volleyball game tonight. I need to correct some papers, eat a quick dinner, and head out. Got to love those fluorescent lights in the gym!!
take care,
hey JJ, Iím sorry that things are going like they are for you. Howís your face today? Improve any overnite?

I was exactly where you were at a couple weeks ago. A big welt on my cheek and like 5-8 (some old, some active) pimples all around my chin. Right now I still have the old marks that are fading away SLOWLY on my chin (like 5-6 of those) and a nodule on my cheek that Iím hoping will flatten out enough to Ĺ way cover with makeup by tomorrow. I thought all was going well until I woke up this morning with a new pimple under my lower lip. If I remember right, this is one that I messed with before, and it went away kinda quicklyÖ.wonder if itís just decided to come back for a second fight.

My forehead and nose are normally my safe spots; I rarely get anything on them. My cheeks normally are too, but the past few months Iíve had some bumps pop up.
I feel for you, because Iím able to basically come in and just work with the same handful of people and could hibernate in my cubicle all day. You have to work with all those children, so I suppose that it would be hard to do that AND have to deal with being in such a depressed mood. Donít feel bad for cancelling at your Grams; I would have done the same thing.

What have you been eating? Do you drink enough water or drink sodas? Have you given any more thought to doing a low carb/no wheat/no sugar diet? Have you ever tried Bactrim or are you allergic to sulfa drugs? Iíve been told that bactrim is a quick acting antibiotic that should clear you up, and is one of those ďlast alternatives before taking accutaneĒ, but not something to take long term. Thatís what Iím taking now. It hasnít cleared me completely by any means ---, but I do have a few things going on here, and I did still start the yasmin Ė so who knows where I would be if I wasnít taking it. In the past month Iíve:
1. stopped eating wheat
2. started the adrenal/b-vitamin supplements
3. started yasmin and bactrim
4. started applying tazorac to my trouble spots & rinsing it off (I know now to only do it at night!!!)
5. TRY my best to drink 8 glasses of water or tea a day. (do pretty good)
6. added to my daily vitamins I take.
a. Good quality multivitamin (has way more than the RDA% in it, which I was told wasnít enough for people to rely on)
b. Good quality calcium
c. Adrenal/B-vitamin pill
d. Extra calcium; magnesium, zinc (these are also in the multivitamin, so with both I think that I get as much zinc as I should without going overboard)
e. Evening primrose oil (donít know if this does anythign, but figure itís not hurting.
f. Vitamin E capsule
g. And I do a carrot/apple/spinach juice 5 days of the week w/added flax oil)

So, you see, I was making sure to drink the water and eating healthily for a long time now (even before the start of this month). I donít do perfect, but itís very frustrating to know that I do all of this and still break out but yet all these other people EAT CRAP !!!!! Itís nerve-wracking!!!!! And yeah, itís JUST NOT FAIR!

When you use the tazorac, do you put it on your whole face? I guess tazorac is just really exfoliating and can bring up the crud before it starts to prevent breakouts, so yeah, I guess you are right that it may be culprit. I know how you feel, but Iíd say to try my little routine with it at night Ė or even every other night just so that maybe then you will get used to it. ?????

Trust me, I know exactly what you mean about not wanting to see anyone, talk to anyoneÖ, I wonít even open my door to my neighbors most of the time and itís 100% because of my face (and god help me if Iíve just washed it and donít have on any makeup and we have someone pay us a ďsurpriseĒ visit. I just want to hide. I wish I was invisible..)

Take care, and keep your head up. I know itís easier said than done, but try and be thankful for the things that you do have, your close family and your caring boyfriend, etcÖ., things could me much worse. You could have acne AND be dying from some disease, AND be all alone. This is what I try, try, try to tell myself when I get so depressed. It doesnít work to get me out of the depression; but it lightens it a LITTLE bit, and I can use all the help I can get in those times. You arenít alone; I'm here for ya :wave:

Take care, and let me know how youíre doing.

Oh, and I've never done the massive dose B-5 thing..., thought about it, but just haven't done it yet.

I'm thinking that if the Yasmin and diet changes don't work, then I'm going to get on spironlactone. But, THE YASMIN IS GONNA WORK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[This message has been edited by knut (edited 10-24-2003).]
Hey JJ;
Itís goiníÖÖ, I wish that just once I could wake up with absolutely nothing brewing on my face. Right now I have this big nodule on my cheekbone, near my hairline, and I have another new lump under my lip; near where the other one showed up a few days ago. I wish that I just knew exactly what was going on and that I could foresee the future. Right now Iím not bad though. I would say that Iím 80% improved from where I was a month ago. I am just wondering if the Bactrim is holding off a much bigger outbreak that I would be getting from the Yasmin if I wasnít taking it. OrÖ., am I not really breaking out because Iím not eating wheat and taking these pillsÖÖ.., or what is going to happen when I stop the Yasmin for a week and get my periodÖÖÖÖ, or what will happen when I stop the Bactrim? I got too many things goin on here. Iíve been thinking that I may revise my diet even more and try to stop eating so many carbs and sugars. I think itís healthier for us; and has been referred to lately as the ďinflammation reducingĒ diet. Iíve been on Atkins before; and it wasnít THAT hard. It would just mean that I would have to plan and cook more meals; instead of just relying on my rice bowls,etc. Iím so tired of thinking of this. I wanna just eat pizza all day every day and Iíd be good :)

Iím glad you had a good time at the party. I spent a good part of my weekend cleaning out my closets. I have tons of bags and boxes for goodwill, and may sell some stuff to a consignment shop. I didnít go anywhere, really. Was kinda cold outside.

As far as I know, there are no side effects with Bactrim, UNLESS you are allergic to Sulfa, and in which case you could have an allergic reaction, of course. I donít know if there is a way to test for this before you try itÖ., I had been on it before so I knew that I was alright. I also read that about the blood thingÖ, and I donít really know. Maybe you could print out the comments and ask the doctor when you go. No doctor has ever said anything to me about it; but then again, Iíve never been on it long term. And no initial breakout for me. Iíd say that I see improvements within the first week, definitely the second; but everyone is different. I was hoping that by now Iíd be completely clear (I started on the 10thÖ, but again, I started the Yasmin then too). Iím anxious to hear what your derm has to say to you.

Accutane was hard for me. I remember my acne getting much worse before It got better. I got very, very dry, and literally would have patches of nasty, dry, bumpy skin, that I could just peel away after a shower. Iím sure that I did that; and made the situation worse, but I donít really remember. Oh, and my lips were so dry and my eyeballs felt like they were on fire constantly. So, for me, I the dryness was terrible, I couldnít even open my mouth because it was already cracked in the corners. Also, I had terrible back pain. But, that did eventually go away and I cleared up for a while. Donít remember how long exactly. And, my side effects Iím sure were more severe than others because Iím sensitive to like EVERYTHING!!!!!!

Have you gotten that other face wash? Iíve been using it twice a day, and putting on the tazorac at night (then rinsing it off). My face is way less oily; but itís too dry in places, so I think I will switch to washing with the dove in the morning, so that maybe it will balance out more. I mean, if I wash my face before I go to bed; I shouldnít have to really use anything medicated (with tea tree oil and some salicylic acid) in the morning. Gonna give that a shot and see if some of the dryness goes away. I definitely donít want to over dry my face; cause thatís just gonna lead to more problems, but I think that my face would more benefit from using the medicated wash at night; after Iíve been wearing the makeup and producing all the oil all day longÖ

Have a great day at school; are you having a Halloween party for the kids?

Did you have acne on your chin before the Yasmin; also, are you still on accutane?
Hey JJ, doin good today. HAPPY HALLOWEEN!

I have gotten a new pimple under my chin, right side. Not tooo terribly, but definitely thereÖ.., no whitehead in site, just a nice pink lump. Sucks, because we have dinner reservations tonight at a nice restaurant, and it would just be nice to ONCE put on makeup, etc, and go without wondering how my face looks.

That St. Ives face wash DEFINITELY cuts the oil. Remember how I said that I was going to use it only at night, and then wash just with the Dove for sensitive skin in the morning? Well, Iíve been doing that for a while now, I guess like this week and I just looked in the mirror and Iím an oil slick againÖ., I wasnít like this when I was washing with the St. Ives in the morning. Iím going to switch back. I just have to make sure not to use it around my eyes, and hopefully it wonít dry me out too much. Maybe that dryness that I was having was just because I had just started using the tazorac again. Regardless, Iíd rather not be oily, so Iíll switch back to using the St. Ives twice aday. I hope that you find it soon!

The only thing that Iíve ever done was put a tiny little bit of hydrocortisone cream (anusol) on a cyst and it worked for me once. Flattened the monster out in a few hours. Thatís the only thingÖ., no other topical has ever helped me once I had a pimple or a cyst Ė just makes them worse. And Iíve used the hydrocortisone cream at times and it didnít do anything eitherÖÖ., it might be worth a shot for you though.

Donít really have much for a weekend agenda. I need to clean house, pay bills, but we are going to lunch with a couple of friends tomorrow and I think Iím going to make a big home cooked dinner for us. Just fart around at home I guess. Sucks that you have to work on your days off; but I guess that is a trade off for other times that you can have off when others work all year round (??). I do get awfully jealous when school lets out in the summer and I know that all you teachers are off and Iím still truckin to work every beautiful day.

So far, the only real face mask that Iíve used has been the queen helen mint julep one. And I donít even really do that often anymore. I donít think that it really does anything long term. It does feel good right when you take it off, and your face looks ďdrierĒ and more toned I guess. Never helps the breakouts that are on my face and doesnít seem to prevent anything, even when I was doing it regularly every week. I do need to find a good mask that I can do a couple times I week. Iím kinda looking for one now. I really think though that if you can find this face wash that Iím using that youíll see a huge difference in the oil on your face.

Today will be my last pill of the yasminÖ Period week coming up. I decided to go ahead and have it because if I want to skip it then next month and the month after would be good times to do that. I am starting to question myself also as to if I will stop taking the bactrim after the 10th of November. Maybe I should do it for 3 months instead?? Then if nothing else, maybe I wonít be stressing out about if my face will or wonít become terrible a week before we go home for Christmas. What do you think? I just get so stressed and paranoid about everything. I worry way too much. Like, last year, we procrastinated and waited till the last minute to do our christmas shopping, and my BF and I got all irritated with each other and it just was not a ďpleasantĒ holiday. Well, this year Iím determined THAT WILL NOT HAPPEN so Iíve already started shopping!!!!!!! Hopefully that will reduce some stress. :)

Well, have a great day. Hopefully the kids arenít being too rowdy and you can have a bit of halloween SPIRITS when you go out tonight. ;)

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