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Hi again, for some reason I broke out a bit this weekend while on my allergy diet... I haven't even looked at any gluten (to my knowledge) and went back over all the foods i ate and couldn't find any gluten. So I am suspecting that I am allergic to more than just gluten, and have made an appointment for more testing thursday. I will let you all know what happens. It seems like I get even more pissed off at only a couple pimples since I've been fairly clear. I feel this will never end, even though I am so close to finding the cause of this.
Hi BJ,
Don't get discouraged. I still experience breakouts here and there and sometimes things are better than other times. I'm not so sure if it's completely the gluten that causes break-outs. Most definitely, eating something that impairs your digestive system can lead your body to show it in other ways, however I don't think that it (gluten) is as much of a contributing factor to acne as people on here say it is. I eat a very, very gluten free-diet and I STILL experience acne. Sometimes I think back to when I wasn't eating a gluten free diet, and my skin was great... so I think that there are other factors at work. Are you still eliminating milk/dairy from your diet? What about meat? I ate a fairly healthy dose of turkey last night (Thanksgiving weekend) along with a few dairy products (i.e. milk in the mashed potatoes, I'm sure), and I don't think my skin looks any worse today. Anyway, I do think that my face tends to look better when i eat a *totally* strict gluten free, low carb, no-meat, no-dairy diet.. but who can eat like that for a long period of time?

My advice... keep eating healthy, like you are (you'll feel better, even if you break out from time to time) and most definitely get an allergy test to see if there's anything else you're allergic to. However, don't be discouraged, either. Hang in there!

Lizzybeth
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Originally posted by Lizzybeth:
Anyway, I do think that my face tends to look better when i eat a *totally* strict gluten free, low carb, no-meat, no-dairy diet.. but who can eat like that for a long period of time?

Lizzybeth



A vegan like me could! LOL.
i'm pretty positive that my acne is also because of "food sensitivity". i don't eat dairy products, and don't eat as much meat anymore, but still have bad acne. obviously i still haven't found the thing that does it for me...so, what's gluten? and what kind of healthy eating diet do you recommend bj72, lizzybeth (and anyone else)? how did you change your eating habits to notice a difference?

thanks
Jug,

I think that an elimination diet can help test to see if you are, indeed, allergic to anything in your food. Gluten, as you mentioned, is a protein that is found in wheat flour, barley, oats, spelt..and a few other grains. If you are gluten intolerant, you need to stay away from most commercial grain products (i.e. cereals, pastas, breads, cookies, etc) and products in general (i.e. soups, sauces), but may eat products with rice, corn, or potato in them, plus fruits, veggies, dairy, meat.

My experience has been that even eliminating all major foods that are known to contribute to acne doesn't eliminate the problem for some people. If this is the case, which it may be with you, since you say that eliminating meat and dairy from your diet hasn't changed your situation too much, then maybe there are other factors at work for you (i.e. hormones, vitamin deficiency). Do you eat a lot of sugar? Some people have had success with eliminating all forms of sugar from their diet (along the lines of Atkins or Carbohydrate Addict's diets). I am currenly trying something like an Atkin's diet, now..and going to see if I have any success with it. Right now I am eating lots of veggies, some fruits, and a rotation of eggs, tofu, or fish at every meal. I also don't eat very much meat or any dairy whatsoever. I totally empathize with you because it is very frustrating to try many different routines and prescripton meds, and not see any difference. I don't think there is any ONE thing that works for everyone.

I would go to an allergist and get tested to see if you really do have any allergies, and then go from there. You could also go the route that BJ went and do your own testing...eliminating everything but fruits, veggies, and perhaps rice and then slowly integrating other foods back into your diet. As you may well know, however, the elimination diet is very difficult to start and stay on, but you should see some changes if that is in fact what is breaking you out.

Lizzybeth
first of all, thanks for your input! with your help, i quite possibly have narrowed it down to this gluten thing. hopefully... and to let you know how i know that it's my diet that causes my acne: i had bad acne for a long time, then i had my jaw wired shut for 2 months, restricting me to consuming ONLY liquids. my skin was flawless for awhile, and then eating solids again brought it back. conincidence? highly unlikely.

i'm really thinking it's gluten or something of the sort, because, since i've eliminated dairy and meat (somewhat), i've replaced them with cereal and bread (the healthy kinds, or so i thought...) but the acne remains! this is all making sense to me now...on my liquid diet, i had NO cereals or breads (obviously, since they're kinda difficult to turn into liquid), but i still ate dairy and a little bit of meat (in pureed stews, i know, sounds gross).

and also, just to let you know, i eat a lot of fruits and vegetables, and i take no herbs/vitamins/drugs. i don't eat chocolate or candy...my desserts consist of fruit. i'm healthy aren't i?!

one more question: how do you know if something has gluten in it? or is it mainly just in grain products like the ones you (lizzybeth) mentioned? and soups too? hmmm, on my liquid diet i ate lots of soups...

needless to say, your responses got me thinking quite a bit...anymore info you have would be greatly appreciated! thanks again!

jug
jug - cutting out gluten is much much harder than just cutting out those grains... mostly everything store bought has some form of wheat gluten in it.

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You must read the ingrediants on EVERYTHING you buy... gluten and wheat can be in the less likely things imaginable!
hmm, are you saying that gluten is on the list of ingredients of food products? i always read the ingredients on everything, but i never see gluten listed anywhere...another name perhaps? just wondering...

jug
Sometimes it actually says gluten, but here's a partial list of forbidden food ingredients:

Abyssinian Hard (Wheat Triticum duran)
Alcohol (Spirits - Specific Types)
Artificial Color4
Artificial Flavoring6
Baking Powder2
Barley Grass (can contain seeds)
Barley Hordeum vulgare
Barley Malt
Beer
Bleached Flour
Blue Cheese (made with bread)
Bran
Bread Flour
Brewer's Yeast
Brown Flour
Bulgar (Bulgar Wheat/Nuts)
Bulgar Wheat
Calcium Caseinate (Contains MSG)
Caramel Color3
Cereal Binding
Chilton
Citric Acid4
Coloring
Couscous
Dextrins1
Durum Wheat Triticum
Edible Starch
Einkorn Wheat
Farina Graham
Filler
Flavoring6 Food Starch
Fu (dried wheat gluten)
Germ
Glutamate (Free)
Graham Flour
Granary Flour
Gravy Cubes4
Groats (barley, wheat)
Ground Spices4
Gum Base
Hard Wheat
Hydrolyzed Plant Protein (HPP)4
Hydrolyzed Vegetable Protein (HVP)4
Inulin4
Kamut (Pasta wheat)
Malt
Malt Extract
Malt Syrup
Malt Flavoring
Malt Vinegar
Miso4
Matzo Semolina
Modified Food Starch4
Modified Starch4
Mono and Diglycerides2
MSG (Made outside USA)4
Mustard Powder 4
Natural Flavoring6
Pasta
Pearl Barley
Rice Malt (contains barley or Koji)
Rye
Seitan Semolina
Semolina Triticum
Shoyu (soy sauce)4
Small Spelt
Soba Noodles4
Sodium Caseinate (Contains MSG)
Soy Sauce
Spirits (Specific Types)
Spelt (Triticum Spelta)
Sprouted Wheat or Barley
Starch4
Stock Cubes4
Strong Flour
Suet in Packets
Tabbouleh
Teriyaki Sauce
Textured Vegetable Protein - TVP
Triticale X triticosecale
Udon ( wheat noodles)
Vegetable Starch
Vinegars (Specific Types)
Vitamins4
Wheat Triticum aestivum
Wheat Nuts
Wheat, Abyssinian Hard triticum durum
Wheat, Bulgar
Wheat Durum Triticum
Wheat Triticum mononoccum
Wheat Starch5
Wheat Germ (oil)
Wheat Grass (can contain seeds)
Whole-Meal Flour

with that being said... Good Luck
That's some list

To be 100% sure things are gluten free... go into a health food store and find gluten free things in there... it SHOULD say so on the packet if it's gluten free!
well, it's been a few days since i've been trying to avoid gluten, but everything i eat has gluten in it! even when i was on my strictly liquid diet, i ate soups and stuff with gluten in them.
now i'm really getting annoyed. i've now cut out dairy, gluten and candies/sweets, eat tons of fruits and vegetables, don't eat much meat.
i'm not noticing any difference and i'm always hungry. i don't have much weight to lose either!
now, i need some suggestions/insight/help, anything! is it because i drank so much boost (and other nutrient drinks) on my liquid diet, or is it perhaps i can't digest solids very well? these are the only 2 possibilites left!

thanks!

jug





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