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I hesistate to post this, because I don't want to encourage smoking, but one thing that helps me when I just can't focus, is to smoke a cigarette.

For some reason, it gives me that extra "umphh" to focus.

I keep my smoking down to a bare minimum of maybe a 1/2 pack a week.

Has it helped anyone else?? Be honest.
I also wanted to add that smoking a cigarette helps calm my nerves when I am very worked up.
I smoke a little over a pack a day so I would say a half a pack a week is nothing. But it can escalate FAST so be careful. Have you gone to a doc? Have you thought about a medication or are you already on one?
[QUOTE=Banker]I smoke a little over a pack a day so I would say a half a pack a week is nothing. But it can escalate FAST so be careful. Have you gone to a doc? Have you thought about a medication or are you already on one?[/QUOTE]

I have been on adderall for about 4 years.

I actually have been smoking since the age of 14, so it is something that I have always had under control. I am now 35.

I also indulge in Marihuana, occasionally when I get together with friends........

Hispanic cultural glitch. :cool:
Smoking helps rob your brain of oxygen. I don't see that smoking, in the long run, will help anything. The nicotine is undoubtedly gratifying you for the moment, but you will pay in the long run. Ask a psychiatrist/psychologist next time you see them if smoking will help your ADD. My guess is they will say the same thing I have said. Yes, I am a non-smoker and would not encourage anyone to do it for any reason. Furthermore, I don't care for the cultural glitch statement in regards to justifying the use of marijuana with friends. This is just a plain attempt to excuse unlawful and unhealthy behavior.
What does the adderall do for you? How does it help? I'm VERY new to this.... I have gone through life just thinking I was a lazy, procrastinator that enjoyed drama and got bored easily... But I've now been officially diagnosed and have been given strattera... too scared to start taking it though... isn't that weird? I just don't know what it's going to do to me. I'e read where it can make you really sleepy (at least on the other boards..) Do you know anything about it?
[QUOTE=Banker]What does the adderall do for you? How does it help? [/QUOTE]

Adderall is a stimulant. Buy a triple Mocha at Starbucks and one will get a sense of what adderall is, it can be euphoric at times.

Overall, it helps one keep awake and alert. ADD is closely related to sleep disorders and Narcolopsey, so it stands to reason one needs proper stimulation.

I like the medication.

[QUOTE]But I've now been officially diagnosed and have been given strattera... too scared to start taking it though... isn't that weird?[/QUOTE]

No. It isn't weird. Strattera was awfull for me.

It made me dazed, depressed, dizzy and sleepy. When I missed a dosage, the next time I took the med. it would make me strangely nauseated and caused fits of profuse sweating. This would last about 45 minutes.

Being a male, strattera gave me unusual sexual side effects. It caused pre-mature ejaculations, painful non-erotic erections, and a burning sensation in my throat, stomach (caused heartburn), penis and anus. Must have some kind of acid effect. It also gave me bad, pounding headaches.

Worse, I felt like the medication didn't help one bit. I am back on adderall and loving my life.

but don't take my word for it, here's a link to another thread on the subject, from a male perspective (I'm assuming your male)

http://www.healthboards.com/boards/showthread.php?t=159198&highlight=strattera

(have to cut and paste link, won't let one hyper link)
[QUOTE=DoubleVision]This is just a plain attempt to excuse unlawful and unhealthy behavior.[/QUOTE]

thats a little rude. everyone has a drug of choice. whats yours? adderall? benadryl? xanax? you are apposed to smoking a little bit of a plant, but i'm sure you'd cram a fistful of psychoactive substances like amphetamines and prozac down you or your kid's throat if a doctor told you it was okay.


get a grip.
In my experience making people with ADD feel judged, as in the previous post about pot being 'unhealthy and unlawful, is just about the least effective way to get them to change their behaviors. Education, on the other hand, works well.

The author of Driven to Distraction identifies pot as the most 'dangerous' drug for ADDers because it provides both a sense of heightened adventure and an increased feeling of calm, making it potentially very addictive. Unlike a previous poster, I don't think its my place to judge you for using it, but do be aware that many people think it poses unique risks for ADDers.

DoubleVision, unfortunately the reason so many ADDers smoke is because it works similarly to Ritalin or Dexedrine. Objectively speaking nicotine is a very effective treatment for ADD symptoms associated with focus, concentration, etc. BUT... We ALL know the extreme associated dangers and why people should choose NOT to smoke. However, for me it was actually much easier to quit once I could stop judging myself for smoking and see that I was essentially medicating myself. (see the article below)

If you really smoke as little as a cigarette day, I'd go against the anti-smoking furor and say don't even worry about it. I, for one, couldn't ever have smoked that little so I had to stop.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?holding=npg&cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=8927677&dopt=Abstract

Nicotine, like the psychostimulants methylphenidate and dextroamphetamine, acts as an indirect dopamine agonist and improves attention and arousal. Adults and adolescents with attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) smoke much more frequently than normal individuals or those with other psychiatric conditions, perhaps as a form of self-medication for ADHD symptoms. Nicotine might therefore have some value as a treatment for ADHD. The present study is an acute double-blind crossover administration of nicotine and placebo with smokers (n = 6) and nonsmokers (n = 11) diagnosed with adult ADHD. The drug was delivered via a transdermal patch at a dosage of 7 mg/day for nonsmokers and 21 mg/day for smokers. Results indicate significant clinician-rated global improvement, self-rated vigor and concentration, and improved performance on chronometric measures of attention and timing accuracy. Side effects were minimal. These acute results indicate the need for a longer clinical trial and a comparison with other stimulants in adult ADHD treatment.
[QUOTE=bearboy]thats a little rude. everyone has a drug of choice. whats yours? adderall? benadryl? xanax? you are apposed to smoking a little bit of a plant, but i'm sure you'd cram a fistful of psychoactive substances like amphetamines and prozac down you or your kid's throat if a doctor told you it was okay.


get a grip.[/QUOTE]


Thanks for the perspective BearBoy.

Did you know that the Aztecs and Mayans have been smoking Marihuana for 3000 years??

Just because a Eurocentric Anglo like DoubleVision, thinks it should be illegal, doesn't necessarily make it illegal in my book, but DV thinks he/she knows best.
[QUOTE]thats a little rude. everyone has a drug of choice. whats yours? adderall? benadryl? xanax? you are apposed to smoking a little bit of a plant, but i'm sure you'd cram a fistful of psychoactive substances like amphetamines and prozac down you or your kid's throat if a doctor told you it was okay.[/QUOTE]

Smoking is bad for the body, period. That is a scientific fact. If it was taken as a rude comment, sorry. However, I will not apologize for the statement I made about smoking marijuana and the excuse that was made about it being a cultural thing.

If what I said is taken as rude, please examine how you replied...I do not appreciate the notion that I would "cram" a fistful of psychoactive substances down my child's throat. He makes the choice whether to try them or not and while they are not the healthiest thing for the body normally, in ADD they can cause him to have more control...HE MAKES THE DECISION!

Posters in here talk about making ADD sufferers feel judged, and just what does making a statement about shoving psychoactive meds or Prozac do to make him feel accepted? My problem with your original post is the fact that this site is not just frequented by adults...my son is 12 and I don't need him getting the idea planted in his head from other ADD sufferers that smoking weed or cigarettes will help his cause. There is enough peer pressure at school let alone having someone tout the use of such substances as a help for ADD.
dv-i cannot imagine my post came off as touting smoking as a good idea. everyone above the age of 5 will hopefully know by now that smoking is a bad idea.

i just wanted to make the point that untreated ADD often leads people to self-medicate with cigarettes, caffeine, alcohol, marijuana etc. there are many great reasons NOT to use any of these substances to excess, however in order to understand why people use them, it is necessary to understand how they sometimes temporarily work effectively to relieve ADD symptoms.

also i agree with you that post about 'cramming' pills was very uncouth, but unfortunately i think in order to convince someone not to smoke pot, talking about long-term health effects and legal issues is not always very effective, since many ADDers (though probably not the one who posted this topic) are very desperate for *something* to help them. the best way to keep them from abusing substances is to educate them and help them find better ways to manage their ADD. it sounds like you are doing a great job of this with your son. a good thing given that studies show untreated ADDers are much more likely to abuse drugs and alcohol later on.


[QUOTE=DoubleVision]Smoking is bad for the body, period. That is a
scientific fact. If it was taken as a rude comment, sorry. However, I will not apologize for the statement I made about smoking marijuana and the excuse that was made about it being a cultural thing.

If what I said is taken as rude, please examine how you replied...I do not appreciate the notion that I would "cram" a fistful of psychoactive substances down my child's throat. He makes the choice whether to try them or not and while they are not the healthiest thing for the body normally, in ADD they can cause him to have more control...HE MAKES THE DECISION!

Posters in here talk about making ADD sufferers feel judged, and just what does making a statement about shoving psychoactive meds or Prozac do to make him feel accepted? My problem with your original post is the fact that this site is not just frequented by adults...my son is 12 and I don't need him getting the idea planted in his head from other ADD sufferers that smoking weed or cigarettes will help his cause. There is enough peer pressure at school let alone having someone tout the use of such substances as a help for ADD.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=bearboy]get a grip.[/QUOTE]
ok????

Weather it's nyquil or tylenol, billboards for liqour, cigarette ads every time you walk in the store, on tv, brittney spears smoking, janet jackson's boob, sex pop-ups on the internet, strattera commercials - any medium. You and your child and every other american are exposed to enough marketing to "get ideas planted in your head". And quite honestly i think its innapropriate that you would allow your 12 year old to come on to a website like this. There also many other topics on this board which are questionable for a child that young to be seeing. And thats my problem with your post.

People smoke. That's a fact. People smoke tobacco, marijuana, cocaine, amphetamines, heroin and everything else they think is going to get them high. that is a part of life and [U]everyone will experience peer pressure[/U] to try drugs and alcohol at a young age from other kids. even your child. You can read about kids in school selling their adderall pills to classmates all over the internet. even though you might not like it or want it to happen, it will. and weather your child decides to try the drugs and alcohol and medication is his/her choice, as it is the choice of everyone else.

99% do what the doctor says. you think he knows best because he is a doctor. but in the end, everyones just a human..and everyone bangs to the beat of a diffrent drum.

as i said before. get a grip. it's 2004. Its diffrent now than 1984.
Sodawater, your post was not the problem. You are merely educating and I do appreciate and understand the sensations that the pot or cigarettes cause. My problem was with the thread started by AztecIndian and the way in which the use of his "drug of choice" comes across as being ok because he has ADD. My quarrel most definitely is not with anything you have said. I am still learning about this disorder myself and am not an idiot when it comes to the reasons behind why some of the stuff mentioned might make the ADD individual feel relaxed, etc. I have a duty foremost to parent my child well and provide for him what he needs to excel in life, but I don't want him ending up with the impression that just because he suffers from ADD, that it's ok to dabble in the sport of marijuana or get hooked on cigarettes because he can self-medicate with them instead of the other options he has. I realize that untreated ADD can lead to addictions at a higher rate than treated ADD, and I realize that even in the absence of ADD people become addicted. I thought forums like these where people ask questions were a good place to dialogue and of course voice our opinions. However, in light of this thread, no matter what my opinion is, it will be viewed as rude, so I guess I am the fool...
Try another day - this board is often much more open to dialogue than today's thuggish air would suggest.

Glad I didn't bother you, but I just want to make something clear - I don't think its strong enough to see cigarettes as 'relaxing' - they need to be taken more seriously as they are a stimulant that 'works' just like ritalin, etc. Its important not to understate that nicotine addiction is an incredible risk for ADDers because it probably does something for them that it does much less so for others.

ps.
I didn't take the original poster to be saying he/she smoked pot *because* she had ADD. Where I'm from pot is at least as socially acceptable as alcohol - there are large cultural differences between different parts of this country. Used infrequently I think its fine - its just that for ADDers the urge to use more regularly may be too strong.
[QUOTE=DoubleVision]Smoking is bad for the body, period. That is a scientific fact. [/QUOTE]

Like it or not DV, all drugs have negative side effects including Adderall and Straterra.

Adderall can cause dehydration, high blood pressure, tremors, headaches, heart, liver and kidney problems.

Some of the long term effects are not even known.

I already went into detail about the negative effects of straterra.

I think you're absolutely wrong if you're implying that prescription drugs do not have any negative consequences.

There are many adult topics on the board that your 12-year-old shouldn't be exposed to, although I'm a father too, but do not want my children as sheltered as you choose to raise your offspring.

I think you're singling me out, and I think it is because I don't fit the wonder bread image.
aztec simply made a post on here regarding smoking and add. what's wrong with that? isnt that what this board is for? how is he pushing himself on anybody? I fail to see him advocating anything to do with saying that drug use is ok for anybody. I'm not either.

it amazes me that you could open up your mind to the possiblity of putting a 12 year old kid on crank, but be so close minded about an adult occasionally smoking marijuana. I find that to be very odd.

how could anyone possibly compare a cigarette to ritalin or adderall. that's like comparing the atlantic ocean to the hudson river...
Are you really that surprised that other visitors to this board, culled from all different walks of life and probably all over the country are going to have strong anti-illegal-drug opinions? IMO It's like a religious difference - it doesn't make for a productive debate here. Furthermore, pot is widely accepted as a particularly bad drug for ADDers.

Apparently you did not read my entire post or you would have known it was not me but research scientists at the national institutes of health, who compared ritalin to nicotine.
[QUOTE=Aztec Indian]Did you know that the Aztecs and Mayans have been smoking Marihuana for 3000 years??
[/QUOTE]

That's an excellent point and example for what not to do because of genetic evolution. The Aztecs and Mayans, genetically, have one of the highest substance abuse problems currently in society.
Smoking cigarettes and Marijuana is common in ADDers.

Nicotine helps people with AD/HD because it helps with dopamine transmission, but it (like caffeine) decreases oxygen and blood circulation in the brain.

Marijuana greatly harms AD/HD individuals (regardless with what a few hippy-doctors say). Smoking weed destabalizes and decreases frontal lobe activity. Not only does it bind to Cannibinoid receptors, but THC fights, interferes, and binds to dopamine receptors. This greatly interferes with Dopamine transmission as well.
i did not mean you personally ...
I was reading all the other posts and it seems everyone is pretty hot on the medication issue. I only want to address the smoking and it's effect's. I was a heavy smoker from ages 13- 35. I was seriouly addicted and I am also diagnosed with ADHA. Smoking was my medication- it literally calmed me and kept me focused in many posivtive ways at that time . I was able to get my MA and as an artist I could paint for hours without any problems- as long as I smoked while i painted. It kept me focused. When I finally decided to quit other then the withdrawls which were normal my whole concentration was gone, I could not paint for over two years- or only in little doses. I lost all my concentration. Also found that I experiencing depression, something I never had before. Therapists say that smoking, like any addiction can be a cover for other emotional issues- and smoking does that well. It felt like my whole world was upside down- all the good feelings were gone and I felt like I was hitting bottom. I know this was all related to my quitting smoking. It's effects on the brain and body can be just as addictive as herion.
I found an old magazine the other day at a antique shop with an ad for Salem cigerettes. It was from the 1930"s- the ad said feeling sad, feeling blue, no energy- well Salem has the cure for you!
What more can I say!
Nicotine withdrawal exhibits many of the same characteristics as ADD. To take away an ADDers 'medication' and simultaneously exacerbate their symptoms makes their quitting smoking process about 500 times more severe than many others. When I would quit (it took me years to succeed), the results were unbearable in a way that noone else I knew could understand. There are a few studies on the web that describe the reasons for this in great detail.
the song goes "winston's taste good like a cigarette should...
winston gives you full flavor
full rich tobacco flavor
the filter's e-z drawin' too;
the filter's put the flaver through"
[QUOTE=sodawater]Nicotine withdrawal exhibits many of the same characteristics as ADD. To take away an ADDers 'medication' and simultaneously exacerbate their symptoms makes their quitting smoking process about 500 times more severe than many others. When I would quit (it took me years to succeed), the results were unbearable in a way that noone else I knew could understand. There are a few studies on the web that describe the reasons for this in great detail.[/QUOTE]

Ya!
Thanks for re-focusing me on these points. I keep distracting to ''years'', though. Eeeeeeeeouch! How does a chronic distractee stay on that track for 'years'? I know you know how long a minute is, so 'years' is virtually inconceivable, fantastic eVEN, as Snagglepuss might have said. Also, I know that it's ironic that one's super-hyperfocusing power is apparently powerless in the presence of such kryptonite. So, how DID you get over it, do you think? Was it an epiphany--out of desperation and/or self-disgust? Sickness or portent of it? As an addiction, it's an addiction, and as a kind of drug, it's a kind of drug addiction. The way out of that is generally 1-step-at-a-time, starting with you know, step 1 "it has become unmanageable", etc. Overcoming other addictions doesn't seem to help, even as self-moral support. I know some people who say they're or 've been addicted to everything: substances, gambling, sex, food, yada yada yada. Two have conquered at least 4 addictions like that, but both still can't get at the smoking addiction. One who did imagined himself at age +10 to +20 years on an ambulatory respirator with oxy tubes in his nose, going around or trying to go around town as if he were normal, and he doesn't want to be that way, so he's going in the opposite direction-- 1 step at a time but it's working. He said he uses his hyper-focus on that and his mind fights it but hasn't somehow disposed of it yet; so, he's encouraged. Others tell me that getting an appropriate 'fixation' (maybe even some obsession is Rx'able in cases like these) is very useful. I don't know. It's not working for me yet. Maybe I'm hopeless. [See, that's what sets in: despondency and not quitting because you're convinced you can't.] It [U]is[/U] insidious.
I quit because I could not handle the addiction anymore- it really control my life- I was so dependent on smoking for focus and concentration but I also felt like such a vicitm to it. The quitting was not easy- I did not do any of the new drugs out there or patches- I went to a hypthotherapist. She did a session with me and then had me replay it at home whenever I had a smoking desire- which was always. But I stuck with it and yes I was a crazy lady for awhile. The physical addiction lasts like 48 hours but the mental one takes a lot longer to conquere. I also went down to Chinatown and asked for herbs to help stop smoking. I was always taking them. I would not be around anyone who smoked, least I'd be tempted. It was sheer willpower and it affected my art and writing. Never thought I'd get through= but here I am years later and I can not ever imaie smoking again.
One last thing. I have friends who still smoke and they are either ill often or look really old. I am so grateful that I quit.
Howdy, Im new to ADD and new to the Board. I guess I picked a heckuva thread to start on but here I go. We have all seen the smoke filled rooms of AA meetings in movies right? Why do they allow that? Simple-- smoking is the lesser of two evils.
If smoking cigarettes or pot helps you cope with the debilitating symptoms of ADD, have at 'er! If it helps you ease the symptoms long enough to perform your job so you can make a life for you and your family, Ill light it for you myself.
Add has wrecked my life to the point I would smoke 10 packs a day and a bag of pot if it meant getting better. I would rather die of lung cancer in ten years than go 1 more year with untreated ADD. Last time I checked I never lost a job because I smoked. How many have I lost becaue of add? You got an hour? A little dramatic yes, but thats how I feel. ADD has interefered with my health and well being FAR more than smoking ever has. Is it unhealthy ABSOLUTELY! But if its better than ADD...
[QUOTE=hurltim]Howdy, Im new to ADD and new to the Board. I guess I picked a heckuva thread to start on but here I go. We have all seen the smoke filled rooms of AA meetings in movies right? Why do they allow that? Simple-- smoking is the lesser of two evils.
If smoking cigarettes or pot helps you cope with the debilitating symptoms of ADD, have at 'er! If it helps you ease the symptoms long enough to perform your job so you can make a life for you and your family, Ill light it for you myself.
Add has wrecked my life to the point I would smoke 10 packs a day and a bag of pot if it meant getting better. I would rather die of lung cancer in ten years than go 1 more year with untreated ADD. Last time I checked I never lost a job because I smoked. How many have I lost becaue of add? You got an hour? A little dramatic yes, but thats how I feel. ADD has interefered with my health and well being FAR more than smoking ever has. Is it unhealthy ABSOLUTELY! But if its better than ADD...[/QUOTE]

Then why not stop the self-medicating and get your AD/HD treated properly?

By smoking weed you *may* be helping *some* of the AD/HD symptoms, but you are ultimately making your AD/HD worse in the long run.

And I don't mean health wise necessarily either. Marijuana decreases activity in the prefrontal cortex and makes your AD/HD worse. Since AD/HDers already have low activity in the prefrontal cortex, by smoking weed you are decreasing the already low activity you have, even more.

Someone could genetically have a mild form of AD/HD but when self-medicating it with marijuana it will turn moderate or could even turn into a severe form of it. If it's permanent or not I don't believe is scientifically known.

Nicotine on the other hand may be actually good for the brain, well besides the decreased blood flow aspect.
Hi brainf0g, thanks for responding! I have been seeing a therapist for 6 wks and just got put on Strattera this Monday by a psychiatrist. So my days of self-medicating hopefully will end soon.

I myself do not smoke pot. But in some AD/HD people it does help to slow their thought process down to a level of improved functionality. The ability to have a conversation with your boss and actually be able to listen to him is a vital skill that not all ADDers posess.

My other thought for discussion is: Strattera, adderall, ritalin... these drugs do not CURE us of ADD. If they dont cure us then what do they do? Help us function? So if pot helps you function...

Now Im not saying pot is great and a cure all for everything by any means. Its long term ill effects are well known and well documented as well as that of cigarette smoking. But I believe its up to the individual to decide that. Medicating is medicating whether it be administered by a Doc or by your "self.":)
So what your saying is that ADD medicine like adderall, dexedrine, and ritalin are SAFER for you then smoking???? I don't think so!! The body can NOT tell the diffrence between amphetamines, methamphetamine, or other CNS stimulating drugs from that of coca. You can look that up right on the internet. It is a fact. Every person is different, and different things work for diffrent people. If getting that carbon monoxide going into your lungs every few hours is what you need to be able to concentrate or calm yourself down then 9 times out of 10 your going to smoke. So not everyone will agree with you, and not everyone will agree with me. But that's the whole point of this, isnt it?
[QUOTE=bearboy]So what your saying is that ADD medicine like adderall, dexedrine, and ritalin are SAFER for you then smoking???? I don't think so!! The body can NOT tell the diffrence between amphetamines, methamphetamine, or other CNS stimulating drugs from that of coca. You can look that up right on the internet. It is a fact. Every person is different, and different things work for diffrent people. If getting that carbon monoxide going into your lungs every few hours is what you need to be able to concentrate or calm yourself down then 9 times out of 10 your going to smoke. So not everyone will agree with you, and not everyone will agree with me. But that's the whole point of this, isnt it?[/QUOTE]

Yes, Adderall, Dexedrine, and especially Ritalin taken in prescribed doses are statistically safer than smoking. That's a given, the numbers aren't even close.

Huh? Of course the body can tell the difference between amphetamines/ amphetamine derivatives and cocaine. Just because they both interact with dopamine doesn't mean there aren't differences. There are major differences.
[QUOTE=hurltim]Hi brainf0g, thanks for responding! I have been seeing a therapist for 6 wks and just got put on Strattera this Monday by a psychiatrist. So my days of self-medicating hopefully will end soon.

I myself do not smoke pot. But in some AD/HD people it does help to slow their thought process down to a level of improved functionality. The ability to have a conversation with your boss and actually be able to listen to him is a vital skill that not all ADDers posess.

My other thought for discussion is: Strattera, adderall, ritalin... these drugs do not CURE us of ADD. If they dont cure us then what do they do? Help us function? So if pot helps you function...

Now Im not saying pot is great and a cure all for everything by any means. Its long term ill effects are well known and well documented as well as that of cigarette smoking. But I believe its up to the individual to decide that. Medicating is medicating whether it be administered by a Doc or by your "self.":)[/QUOTE]

First congradulations on starting the proper treatment. Second don't get discouraged if Strattera doesn't work. It may or may not, and many people have to try more than one drug before they find one that works with their biochemistry. Unfortunately finding the right med and dose may take a little while, and the only way to find out currently is trial and error.

No, AD/HD meds don't cure AD/HD (well at least our generation), but marijuana makes AD/HD worse over time when treating with it. AD/HD meds don't make AD/HD worse when taking them.
When im at school i have no concentration at all, but when im at home playing a game or doing something else i would always have a smoke in my hand and i would do everything better then without one. so imo i think smoking does help focus or at least some people.
[QUOTE=Lost-Soul]When im at school i have no concentration at all, but when im at home playing a game or doing something else i would always have a smoke in my hand and i would do everything better then without one. so imo i think smoking does help focus or at least some people.[/QUOTE]

Yes smoking does help concentration, but it isn't the most efficient way to give your brain stimulation.
I don't recommend it of course, but it's the "nicotine" which is similar in some ways as drugs like adderall, caffeine and even cocaine (not recommended or condoned for anyone). But similarly, it increases dopamine which causes pleasure and a feeling of well-being. It's actually considered a stimulant and a sedative. The effects of the "stimulant" part are immediate but not long lasting, which increases the smoker's need to keep smoking. Nicotine stimulates the adrenal glands causing a rush of epinephrine (adrenalin).

It is considered a psychoactive drug, meaning it interferes with the brain activity. As a matter of fact, you may have heard they use the drug Zyban to help smokers wean themselves off nicotine. Zyban (buproprion) was originally an antidepressant.

I'm not medical professional. I have just done a lot of my own medical and psychological research.

Also, on a personal note, my brother who has had ADD since he was a young kid (I wasn't diagnosed til 30), smokes (he started at age 20, and now he's 27) and he won't give it up because he says it's the only thing that relaxes him and keeps him focused.
[QUOTE=Aztec Indian]I hesistate to post this, because I don't want to encourage smoking, but one thing that helps me when I just can't focus, is to smoke a cigarette.

For some reason, it gives me that extra "umphh" to focus.

I keep my smoking down to a bare minimum of maybe a 1/2 pack a week.

Has it helped anyone else?? Be honest.[/QUOTE]

It does help very much, Aztec, but for me I need more than what you smoke. Caffeine in moderate amounts helps, too.

Marlene
As a child I was unable to concentrate on anything because I felt too ill because I had a cough and constant chest infections and headaches and a sore throat because of all the second-hand smoke from my mum smoking, it ruined my life and I would say the smoke caused me a lot of behaviour problems, it was long before there was such a thing as ADD/ADHD so as for that I cannot say if I had it, but once I was able to live smoke-free my health improved no end and as an adult all my health problems just went away. I was able to be normal so long as I was away from smokers! It's still the same now! I'm severely sensitive to smoke and get very bothered by it mentally and physically.
Cigarette smoking screws you up, whether it is you smoking or second-hand smoke from a selfish and abusive parent, and I cannot believe the load of hooey some of you are spouting as an excuse for your vile addiction! There is no benefit to smoking so get over it, and try and consider the innocent victims who are hurt and abused by second-hand smoke from their parents!
[QUOTE=lslydov]As a child I was unable to concentrate on anything because I felt too ill because I had a cough and constant chest infections and headaches and a sore throat because of all the second-hand smoke from my mum smoking, it ruined my life and I would say the smoke caused me a lot of behaviour problems, it was long before there was such a thing as ADD/ADHD so as for that I cannot say if I had it, but once I was able to live smoke-free my health improved no end and as an adult all my health problems just went away. I was able to be normal so long as I was away from smokers! It's still the same now! I'm severely sensitive to smoke and get very bothered by it mentally and physically.
Cigarette smoking screws you up, whether it is you smoking or second-hand smoke from a selfish and abusive parent, and I cannot believe the load of hooey some of you are spouting as an excuse for your vile addiction! There is no benefit to smoking so get over it, and try and consider the innocent victims who are hurt and abused by second-hand smoke from their parents![/QUOTE]


I wonder if all your problems were caused by second hand smoke. Firstly, I don't smoke although I used to. This whole thing came down to politics in the end, anti smoking groups who make their money by scaring people half to death. Fear can be a factor in cancer or anything else. After people found out tobacco caused cancer, tobacco related cancer went through the roof. In Japan everyone smokes and they have one of the lowest lung cancer rates in the world. But when the American Lung association and American cancer foundation gets over there and scares everyone half-to death rates will probably go up.

P.S. I do belive that smoking is bad for you and it does cause cancer,.
No, my problems were definitely totally caused by my mother smoking. I felt so much more healthy as soon as I left home as a young adult, all my headaches and chestiness and coughing went away within a fairly short time, so I was also able to concentrate better and be a generally nicer person and got on better with people and made friends more easily because I did not feel ill all the time as I had growing up in smoke. Just because it is not everyone's experience does not mean it is not true for me, I do not understand why you are sceptical just because maybe smoke does not bother you immediately. Whenever I had to share a place with smokers as an adult my health always deteriorated and got better whenever I lived smoke-free, and now I have an even more extreme sensitivity reaction than ever to smoke, with severe coughing and phlegm and headache from a small amount out in the street. Cancer is not the main issue here, after all this time away from a smoky home and hopefully my cancer risk is low now from avoiding it for almost all my adult life, but the chemical sensitivity to smoke is undeniable and has always been there for me to some degree. My school work definitely suffered because of being so ill as a child from the smoke and I behaved badly because I felt terrible and my mother would not listen to me and would not go and smoke outside. I also worked out for myself what was making me ill before anyone told me smoking was unhealthy, I knew it was affecting me. You cannot imagine how frustrating it is when ppl like you will not even now accept that it was the smoke in my case causing my health and behaviour problems. You sound like my mother.
I have also found that smoking helpd me focus better, as nictine is a stimulent and
stimulents are used to treat ADHD.

James
Nicotine increases the acetacholine ( sp?) in the brain, therefore increasing awareness. Too much nicotine can also have a boomerang effect much like caffeine ...too much coffe can make you very alert for awhile, then make you sleepy.
Well, I have not read the filling of this discussion -that is to say I have not read every reply to this post, but having read responses from the first page skipping to the last post I have to agree the topic switched gears. Psychology 101- for the answer I believe is the easy solution. (No disrespect to anyone who took the political route, or took the post deeper than maybe intended.)

The misconception- Nicotine is classified as a "stimulant" because of it's initial reactions (increased heart rate, blood pressure, and mild/short lived stimulation) however to label nicotine as a true "stimulant" would be untrue in studying it's habits/actions. It is unique (nicotine) in that it holds both properties as a "stimulant" and a depressent. The body reacts to the stimulant (euphoric/mild) over time nicotine calms or relaxes the individual. Explained as a nicotine craving (fit) When nicotine is consumed, on a habitual level, or even moderate the body will adjust. Gaining it's own level of nicotine, (withholding) circulating through the body, eventualy needing to replenish that level back up to par. Thus if a habitual user of nicotine goes a period of time without leveling this craving, the user can become anxious, shaky, and irritable- due to the depressent effect that is displayed usual cravings are the result. To regain that calm effect, is the reasoning.

So if you are thinking of medicating yourself with a load of smokes to remedy your "ADD/ADHD" diagnosis because you think that a stimulant is a stimulant all one in the same. Well, your in for a survival trip, and not to mention addiction, and all the attributes that go with this plague. As previously detailed by my fellow board members.

If you believe smoking helps you focus, and in turn smoke to focus- that is a rough concept to hold considering that the chemicals induced in smokes are/or make up more of the smoke than the nicotine. -Opening the door once again to the political aspect I guess.:) Just a little information acquired freshman year in college. Not precise in wording, or spelling for that matter. Just an overview. I wish you well.





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