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I hesistate to post this, because I don't want to encourage smoking, but one thing that helps me when I just can't focus, is to smoke a cigarette.

For some reason, it gives me that extra "umphh" to focus.

I keep my smoking down to a bare minimum of maybe a 1/2 pack a week.

Has it helped anyone else?? Be honest.
I also wanted to add that smoking a cigarette helps calm my nerves when I am very worked up.
Smoking helps rob your brain of oxygen. I don't see that smoking, in the long run, will help anything. The nicotine is undoubtedly gratifying you for the moment, but you will pay in the long run. Ask a psychiatrist/psychologist next time you see them if smoking will help your ADD. My guess is they will say the same thing I have said. Yes, I am a non-smoker and would not encourage anyone to do it for any reason. Furthermore, I don't care for the cultural glitch statement in regards to justifying the use of marijuana with friends. This is just a plain attempt to excuse unlawful and unhealthy behavior.
[QUOTE=Banker]What does the adderall do for you? How does it help? [/QUOTE]

Adderall is a stimulant. Buy a triple Mocha at Starbucks and one will get a sense of what adderall is, it can be euphoric at times.

Overall, it helps one keep awake and alert. ADD is closely related to sleep disorders and Narcolopsey, so it stands to reason one needs proper stimulation.

I like the medication.

[QUOTE]But I've now been officially diagnosed and have been given strattera... too scared to start taking it though... isn't that weird?[/QUOTE]

No. It isn't weird. Strattera was awfull for me.

It made me dazed, depressed, dizzy and sleepy. When I missed a dosage, the next time I took the med. it would make me strangely nauseated and caused fits of profuse sweating. This would last about 45 minutes.

Being a male, strattera gave me unusual sexual side effects. It caused pre-mature ejaculations, painful non-erotic erections, and a burning sensation in my throat, stomach (caused heartburn), penis and anus. Must have some kind of acid effect. It also gave me bad, pounding headaches.

Worse, I felt like the medication didn't help one bit. I am back on adderall and loving my life.

but don't take my word for it, here's a link to another thread on the subject, from a male perspective (I'm assuming your male)

http://www.healthboards.com/boards/showthread.php?t=159198&highlight=strattera

(have to cut and paste link, won't let one hyper link)
Smoking cigarettes and Marijuana is common in ADDers.

Nicotine helps people with AD/HD because it helps with dopamine transmission, but it (like caffeine) decreases oxygen and blood circulation in the brain.

Marijuana greatly harms AD/HD individuals (regardless with what a few hippy-doctors say). Smoking weed destabalizes and decreases frontal lobe activity. Not only does it bind to Cannibinoid receptors, but THC fights, interferes, and binds to dopamine receptors. This greatly interferes with Dopamine transmission as well.
Howdy, Im new to ADD and new to the Board. I guess I picked a heckuva thread to start on but here I go. We have all seen the smoke filled rooms of AA meetings in movies right? Why do they allow that? Simple-- smoking is the lesser of two evils.
If smoking cigarettes or pot helps you cope with the debilitating symptoms of ADD, have at 'er! If it helps you ease the symptoms long enough to perform your job so you can make a life for you and your family, Ill light it for you myself.
Add has wrecked my life to the point I would smoke 10 packs a day and a bag of pot if it meant getting better. I would rather die of lung cancer in ten years than go 1 more year with untreated ADD. Last time I checked I never lost a job because I smoked. How many have I lost becaue of add? You got an hour? A little dramatic yes, but thats how I feel. ADD has interefered with my health and well being FAR more than smoking ever has. Is it unhealthy ABSOLUTELY! But if its better than ADD...
[QUOTE=hurltim]Howdy, Im new to ADD and new to the Board. I guess I picked a heckuva thread to start on but here I go. We have all seen the smoke filled rooms of AA meetings in movies right? Why do they allow that? Simple-- smoking is the lesser of two evils.
If smoking cigarettes or pot helps you cope with the debilitating symptoms of ADD, have at 'er! If it helps you ease the symptoms long enough to perform your job so you can make a life for you and your family, Ill light it for you myself.
Add has wrecked my life to the point I would smoke 10 packs a day and a bag of pot if it meant getting better. I would rather die of lung cancer in ten years than go 1 more year with untreated ADD. Last time I checked I never lost a job because I smoked. How many have I lost becaue of add? You got an hour? A little dramatic yes, but thats how I feel. ADD has interefered with my health and well being FAR more than smoking ever has. Is it unhealthy ABSOLUTELY! But if its better than ADD...[/QUOTE]

Then why not stop the self-medicating and get your AD/HD treated properly?

By smoking weed you *may* be helping *some* of the AD/HD symptoms, but you are ultimately making your AD/HD worse in the long run.

And I don't mean health wise necessarily either. Marijuana decreases activity in the prefrontal cortex and makes your AD/HD worse. Since AD/HDers already have low activity in the prefrontal cortex, by smoking weed you are decreasing the already low activity you have, even more.

Someone could genetically have a mild form of AD/HD but when self-medicating it with marijuana it will turn moderate or could even turn into a severe form of it. If it's permanent or not I don't believe is scientifically known.

Nicotine on the other hand may be actually good for the brain, well besides the decreased blood flow aspect.
Hi brainf0g, thanks for responding! I have been seeing a therapist for 6 wks and just got put on Strattera this Monday by a psychiatrist. So my days of self-medicating hopefully will end soon.

I myself do not smoke pot. But in some AD/HD people it does help to slow their thought process down to a level of improved functionality. The ability to have a conversation with your boss and actually be able to listen to him is a vital skill that not all ADDers posess.

My other thought for discussion is: Strattera, adderall, ritalin... these drugs do not CURE us of ADD. If they dont cure us then what do they do? Help us function? So if pot helps you function...

Now Im not saying pot is great and a cure all for everything by any means. Its long term ill effects are well known and well documented as well as that of cigarette smoking. But I believe its up to the individual to decide that. Medicating is medicating whether it be administered by a Doc or by your "self.":)
[QUOTE=hurltim]Hi brainf0g, thanks for responding! I have been seeing a therapist for 6 wks and just got put on Strattera this Monday by a psychiatrist. So my days of self-medicating hopefully will end soon.

I myself do not smoke pot. But in some AD/HD people it does help to slow their thought process down to a level of improved functionality. The ability to have a conversation with your boss and actually be able to listen to him is a vital skill that not all ADDers posess.

My other thought for discussion is: Strattera, adderall, ritalin... these drugs do not CURE us of ADD. If they dont cure us then what do they do? Help us function? So if pot helps you function...

Now Im not saying pot is great and a cure all for everything by any means. Its long term ill effects are well known and well documented as well as that of cigarette smoking. But I believe its up to the individual to decide that. Medicating is medicating whether it be administered by a Doc or by your "self.":)[/QUOTE]

First congradulations on starting the proper treatment. Second don't get discouraged if Strattera doesn't work. It may or may not, and many people have to try more than one drug before they find one that works with their biochemistry. Unfortunately finding the right med and dose may take a little while, and the only way to find out currently is trial and error.

No, AD/HD meds don't cure AD/HD (well at least our generation), but marijuana makes AD/HD worse over time when treating with it. AD/HD meds don't make AD/HD worse when taking them.
[QUOTE=Aztec Indian]I hesistate to post this, because I don't want to encourage smoking, but one thing that helps me when I just can't focus, is to smoke a cigarette.

For some reason, it gives me that extra "umphh" to focus.

I keep my smoking down to a bare minimum of maybe a 1/2 pack a week.

Has it helped anyone else?? Be honest.[/QUOTE]

It does help very much, Aztec, but for me I need more than what you smoke. Caffeine in moderate amounts helps, too.

Marlene
Well, I have not read the filling of this discussion -that is to say I have not read every reply to this post, but having read responses from the first page skipping to the last post I have to agree the topic switched gears. Psychology 101- for the answer I believe is the easy solution. (No disrespect to anyone who took the political route, or took the post deeper than maybe intended.)

The misconception- Nicotine is classified as a "stimulant" because of it's initial reactions (increased heart rate, blood pressure, and mild/short lived stimulation) however to label nicotine as a true "stimulant" would be untrue in studying it's habits/actions. It is unique (nicotine) in that it holds both properties as a "stimulant" and a depressent. The body reacts to the stimulant (euphoric/mild) over time nicotine calms or relaxes the individual. Explained as a nicotine craving (fit) When nicotine is consumed, on a habitual level, or even moderate the body will adjust. Gaining it's own level of nicotine, (withholding) circulating through the body, eventualy needing to replenish that level back up to par. Thus if a habitual user of nicotine goes a period of time without leveling this craving, the user can become anxious, shaky, and irritable- due to the depressent effect that is displayed usual cravings are the result. To regain that calm effect, is the reasoning.

So if you are thinking of medicating yourself with a load of smokes to remedy your "ADD/ADHD" diagnosis because you think that a stimulant is a stimulant all one in the same. Well, your in for a survival trip, and not to mention addiction, and all the attributes that go with this plague. As previously detailed by my fellow board members.

If you believe smoking helps you focus, and in turn smoke to focus- that is a rough concept to hold considering that the chemicals induced in smokes are/or make up more of the smoke than the nicotine. -Opening the door once again to the political aspect I guess.:) Just a little information acquired freshman year in college. Not precise in wording, or spelling for that matter. Just an overview. I wish you well.





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