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Hi, :wave:
My grades are terrible for the amount of time I study and could it be a low IQ without any kind of help, kinda like, am I stuck here? Thanks
Sorry for 3 posts but I'm at my wits end with this disorder, OR low IQ, hopefully it isn't low IQ cause then I'm screwed right? :rolleyes:
Hey Jessicca, before you go thinking you're stupid, try the meds!! I've read some of your posts, and I don't think you have a low IQ. I know that ADD can sure make you feel stupid sometimes though.

I feel like people think I'm a ditz. But I know for a fact I'm not! So chill, girlie. :)

PS. Keep me updated on how the Ritalin is working for you. I just started Adderall today, and I feel incredible already!!!
[QUOTE=Blue102]Hey Jessicca, before you go thinking you're stupid, try the meds!! I've read some of your posts, and I don't think you have a low IQ. I know that ADD can sure make you feel stupid sometimes though.

I feel like people think I'm a ditz. But I know for a fact I'm not! So chill, girlie. :)

PS. Keep me updated on how the Ritalin is working for you. I just started Adderall today, and I feel incredible already!!![/QUOTE]
Hey Blue,
I also read some of your posts, your the one that posted about Sardines in the Diet and nutrition board right? Well, it's just that I try SOOOO hard in school and it doesn't seem to work. I read in your other post that you have 2 degrees, and I was wondering how the heck you survived that with ADD, unless you have another type. Mine is concentration, and memory. Plus, I'm constantly misplacing things, and I was always considered an underachiever even though I TRIED, unfortuanately, nobody believed me. I hope that it is add because I want to be a nurse SO bad. I take a very deep interest in the health area and feel that my grades would hurt me unless I got help. I've been reading alot about add and I also took a test online and the results indicated that I had SEVERE add and I should consult my physician. Plus, last Saturday at clinical practice for school, one of the students in my group said "you have add like me, you just blurt out whatever is on your mind and you can't follow dierections!" :eek: My clinical teacher gets very frustrated with me and she said "Melanie, you are the only one in the group that I'm most concerned about." I said "why?" And she said because of the questions I have and how hard it is for me to follow directions. My self esteem went down the ROOF! So, I've been contiplating this for a while, ya know getting help with add. I've canceled 2 appointments cause I thought "no, I don't have ADD!!!" Well, I took an important mid term exam and I completely went blank and I now I failed it. :( I wish I could tell you the questions that the test displayed but I'll get back to you on it cause I can't remember right now. Anyways, I went to the doctor today and I started CRYING, telling him that I think I have add and I think it's ruining my life! He told me I should have been on meds a long time ago and asked me how did I manage. Well, I never really made it through college, I've been in and out due to this problem I guess, and now I'm 29 years old without a degree in ANYTHING!! So....it's about time I get help. Anyways, he prescribed me with ritalin 10mg 3x a day. I took one dose so far and I feel kinda edgy but I'm reallly relieved to know that this may help. Do you think it's add or just a low Iq? What are your symptoms?
[QUOTE=Jessicca]Hey Blue,
I also read some of your posts, your the one that posted about Sardines in the Diet and nutrition board right? Well, it's just that I try SOOOO hard in school and it doesn't seem to work. I read in your other post that you have 2 degrees, and I was wondering how the heck you survived that with ADD, unless you have another type. Mine is concentration, and memory. Plus, I'm constantly misplacing things, and I was always considered an underachiever even though I TRIED, unfortuanately, nobody believed me. I hope that it is add because I want to be a nurse SO bad. I take a very deep interest in the health area and feel that my grades would hurt me unless I got help. I've been reading alot about add and I also took a test online and the results indicated that I had SEVERE add and I should consult my physician. Plus, last Saturday at clinical practice for school, one of the students in my group said "you have add like me, you just blurt out whatever is on your mind and you can't follow dierections!" :eek: My clinical teacher gets very frustrated with me and she said "Melanie, you are the only one in the group that I'm most concerned about." I said "why?" And she said because of the questions I have and how hard it is for me to follow directions. My self esteem went down the ROOF! So, I've been contiplating this for a while, ya know getting help with add. I've canceled 2 appointments cause I thought "no, I don't have ADD!!!" Well, I took an important mid term exam and I completely went blank and I now I failed it. :( I wish I could tell you the questions that the test displayed but I'll get back to you on it cause I can't remember right now. Anyways, I went to the doctor today and I started CRYING, telling him that I think I have add and I think it's ruining my life! He told me I should have been on meds a long time ago and asked me how did I manage. Well, I never really made it through college, I've been in and out due to this problem I guess, and now I'm 29 years old without a degree in ANYTHING!! So....it's about time I get help. Anyways, he prescribed me with ritalin 10mg 3x a day. I took one dose so far and I feel kinda edgy but I'm reallly relieved to know that this may help. Do you think it's add or just a low Iq? What are your symptoms?[/QUOTE]
Wow, I'm sorry you're having such a hard time! I'm glad you're getting help for yours--it sounds like you're really struggling. I don't think my ADD is all that severe, but it's bad enough that I can't keep a job. I really wanted to be a psychiatrist myself, but I dropped out of premed. I hope nursing school works out for you. Hopefully meds will help.

Someone else on here posted that she believed ADD people simply think differently (check out the thread called "...ADD a personality type"), and that we might be suited for different types of jobs. That is one way of looking at it. Maybe I wasn't cut out for medicine, but I'm pretty artistic. Don't feel bad if you don't succeed at one thing. There is something out there for you. You certainly know a lot about nutrition. Maybe you could write a book about your findings or something. I dunno, you get the idea.

Anyway, best of luck! We'll figure it out eventually, won't we?

PS. You don't need a degree to succeed in life, for sure!
[QUOTE=Blue102]Wow, I'm sorry you're having such a hard time! I'm glad you're getting help for yours--it sounds like you're really struggling. I don't think my ADD is all that severe, but it's bad enough that I can't keep a job. I really wanted to be a psychiatrist myself, but I dropped out of premed. I hope nursing school works out for you. Hopefully meds will help.

Someone else on here posted that she believed ADD people simply think differently (check out the thread called "...ADD a personality type"), and that we might be suited for different types of jobs. That is one way of looking at it. Maybe I wasn't cut out for medicine, but I'm pretty artistic. Don't feel bad if you don't succeed at one thing. There is something out there for you. You certainly know a lot about nutrition. Maybe you could write a book about your findings or something. I dunno, you get the idea.

Anyway, best of luck! We'll figure it out eventually, won't we?
Okay, but you didn't answer my question, how did you get through college and what are your symptoms? Unless you DO mind me asking. :) I also want you to keep me posted about your future results on Adderal.
PS. You don't need a degree to succeed in life, for sure![/QUOTE]
Jess.. have you concidered running your own business :)..im not joking. It doesn't take much to run a business :)..

cheer up
[QUOTE=Jessicca]Okay, but you didn't answer my question, how did you get through college and what are your symptoms? Unless you DO mind me asking. I also want you to keep me posted about your future results on Adderal.
[/QUOTE]

Not at all... (Hey ya'll know I like talking about myself :)) Well I didn't make awesome grades in college, but I got through. I mean, I didn't even think I might have ADD until I got out in the working world. I just thought I sucked at math, so I tried EXTRA hard. I guess you just develop coping mechanisms. (There were a couple of classes I had to retake.)

My biggest issue is little details. Careless mistakes here and there. Like, I worked at a bank, and got fired for my drawer repeatedly being short (when I swear I had done everything right)... Worked at a hotel, fired because "you're off in lala land... you keep making the same mistakes over and over"... Bagel shop: kept forgetting little things, but very important things, like writing down big orders to have ready the next day!

Thinking back, I can see so many examples: I had to take my driving test 5 times... Did my homework, though it took me 3 hours because I daydreamed so much, and then forgot to turn it in.... etc, etc, etc... I also have this thing where I forget words, and I misspeak a lot. I blank out. That goes with my anxiety too, I guess. Can't read a book... HATE movies... I just get so bored. But I sit on my butt and surf the net all day long!

I think I have either inattentive or limbic forms of ADD. I can absorb myself in anything I'm very interested in, but everything else just goes in one ear and out the other. I don't have hyperactivity, except I fidget a lot... It sounds like you might have ADHD with hyperactivity.

So enough about me...(I'm such a bore, I'm sorry)

I think you can get through the nursing program. I mean, you may want to ask advice from someone who has worse ADD than me. But I guess you just gotta work on taking good notes and using memory aids (like, for E = MC squared or whatever, think of Every Math Class is full of Squares... lol)

Talk to your teacher about it! She should understand and help you out. I don't see why she would be upset about you asking questions, though!

PS. Hey Losec... Had any good sardines lately?
hey blue..sardines?? hehehehehehe I had tuna today.. ;).. i got all kinds of sardines.. maybe tomorrow ;)..
[QUOTE=Blue102]Not at all... (Hey ya'll know I like talking about myself :)) Well I didn't make awesome grades in college, but I got through. I mean, I didn't even think I might have ADD until I got out in the working world. I just thought I sucked at math, so I tried EXTRA hard. I guess you just develop coping mechanisms. (There were a couple of classes I had to retake.)

My biggest issue is little details. Careless mistakes here and there. Like, I worked at a bank, and got fired for my drawer repeatedly being short (when I swear I had done everything right)... Worked at a hotel, fired because "you're off in lala land... you keep making the same mistakes over and over"... Bagel shop: kept forgetting little things, but very important things, like writing down big orders to have ready the next day!

Thinking back, I can see so many examples: I had to take my driving test 5 times... Did my homework, though it took me 3 hours because I daydreamed so much, and then forgot to turn it in.... etc, etc, etc... I also have this thing where I forget words, and I misspeak a lot. I blank out. That goes with my anxiety too, I guess. Can't read a book... HATE movies... I just get so bored. But I sit on my butt and surf the net all day long!

I think I have either inattentive or limbic forms of ADD. I can absorb myself in anything I'm very interested in, but everything else just goes in one ear and out the other. I don't have hyperactivity, except I fidget a lot... It sounds like you might have ADHD with hyperactivity.

So enough about me...(I'm such a bore, I'm sorry)

I think you can get through the nursing program. I mean, you may want to ask advice from someone who has worse ADD than me. But I guess you just gotta work on taking good notes and using memory aids (like, for E = MC squared or whatever, think of Every Math Class is full of Squares... lol)

Talk to your teacher about it! She should understand and help you out. I don't see why she would be upset about you asking questions, though!

PS. Hey Losec... Had any good sardines lately?[/QUOTE]
No, your not a bore. It's kinda nice to have someone to relate to. :) Anyways, how do you get that I have the hyperactivity related add? Thanks
Well I don't know really... you can actually tell a lot about a person by their style of writing... (I'm reading your mind right now actually! Just kidding)...

You seem to be an outgoing, vivacious type. And you did mention that you got a little hyper at times. But of course, I could be wrong!

Oh and hey... you seem to be motivated, inquisitive, and energetic--those are definitely not traits of a low IQ!!!
[QUOTE=Blue102]Well I don't know really... you can actually tell a lot about a person by their style of writing... (I'm reading your mind right now actually! Just kidding)...

You seem to be an outgoing, vivacious type. And you did mention that you got a little hyper at times. But of course, I could be wrong!

Oh and hey... you seem to be motivated, inquisitive, and energetic--those are definitely not traits of a low IQ!!![/QUOTE]
Okay, thanks. BTW, did you get your answer about exercise and meds? Sorry i'm asking a ton of questions. :)
you see Jess.. we all know you'r smart, even blue(the sardine head)..LOL(joke)....do you go blank somtimes, Jess..??

layta ;)
[QUOTE=Losec20mg]you see Jess.. we all know you'r smart, even blue(the sardine head)..LOL(joke)....do you go blank somtimes, Jess..??

layta ;)[/QUOTE]
Yah, I'm smart to a certain extent, but the way I learn is a lot different than others I guess. :)
why are you comparing yourself to others.?? you don't need to compare yourself to others at all..you are who you are, jess.. you also sound a little bit complexed..am I right.?? :)

layta dude :)
[QUOTE=Losec20mg]why are you comparing yourself to others.?? you don't need to compare yourself to others at all..you are who you are, jess.. you also sound a little bit complexed..am I right.?? :)

layta dude :)[/QUOTE]
Complexed or perplexed? I have to compare myself to others when I'm involved in something that is associated with being affiliated with others that are different than me like school. I have a fast mind and it requires help in order to function correctly if you know what I mean? Anyways, do you know a lot about add? There are so many symptoms. :rolleyes:
Hi Jess,

Don't let anyone, especially yourself, call you stupid!!! (LOL) You are just different, and experimenting to find out what works for you is better than trying over and over again to beat into yourself the methods that work for everyone else. I am having a memory here of my father relentlessly giving me flashcards every single morning, poor dear, and nothing ever sunk in about basic math. Now I am interested in making experiments in learning math differently, haven't quite worked it out yet, but it's never too late!

Anyway, Blue's suggestion about pairing visual phrases with otherwise boring memorization is a really good suggestion, which is tried and true by many. There are lots of tricks like that. (BTW- Anyone have any good basic math suggestions?)

I think you can get through Nursing school too!

And, btw, don't buy the IQ testing hook line and sinker. That is a measure of only one type of linear-minded thinking. There is such a thing as an emotional IQ, and a visceral or body IQ, too. I think the professionals just have little or no understanding of mind-functioning at all, to be quite honest.

Bottom line is, we are just different than other types of learners, so we need to quit trying to fit ourselves into what we wish to be, and learn how to be ourselves, and how we best function, ourselves.

By the way, the suggestion that someone made about owning your own business is not totally off base, though it may be too early for you, being in school and all. I know a guy who is almost totally illiterate (can't spell, punctuate or phrase properly) who owns his own decorative painting business and does quite well. I think he hired someone to write up a standard contract for him that he uses with all of his clients.

Katie
I read somewhere that ADD is very often accompanied by a learning disorder. Not always, but often. Dislexia is one disorder that comes to mind but there are a whole lot more. Just like ADD has nothing to do with IQ, neither does LD.

I was never tested for LD, but I wonder now, if I have it. I could never never NEVER memorize things for a test. I had to UNDERSTAND it or it didn't sink in. For instance, in science, I had to understand WHY the electrons spun around the outside while the protons and neutrons clung together in the middle.

In history, I had to hear the STORY of the Magna Carta...I couldn't just memorize the word and the definition. (It always burned me up that some of the A students didn't have a clue what they were regurgitating on their papers, but I got a D even though I understood the material!) And FORGET ABOUT dates. What's the point? The event is what's important, right? And how it has impacted our lives today. Who cares when Magellen was friggin born? I say if you can ball-park it, that's good enough! (Dates are easy to grade, though. Right?)

Math is a whole 'nother ball of wax. I still count on my fingers to multiply! LOL! 5 times 7? Well, I remember that 7 times 3 is 21, so all I have to do is count to seven two more times! Thank god when I got to algebra and they let us use calculators! I can DO algebra as long as I have a calculator, because I (eventually) understood WHY x=3.

English has rules. I am. He was. They are. I understand that. But don't ask me to stand in front of the class and recite the opening lines of the Canturbury Tales in ancient Gaelic! Jees Louise that was hard!

I'm glad I'm not in school anymore, but now I have a son, and I'm worried about how I'm going to stick up for him if he shows signs of ADD. If he writes an awsome report that shows he understands the material and even has writing skills 4 years ahead of his peers, who cares if it's 2 days past due? But I know that most teachers will punish him for things like that, and I will have to either privately commiserate with him or stand up for him and possibly alienate him from his teacher even more. He's only 2 right now, but I see a rough road ahead.
i meant complexed, Jess.. and, what are these symptoms accossiated with ADD..? :)
Thanks guys for your replies. Yah, I hated chemistry but managed to get a B with tutors and studying MAO!!lol What do you guys think? Do you think my grades will improve with meds? Thanks everyone! :)

Oh, Losec, did you read about the symptoms yet? :)
hiya..I haven't read up on it yet..im gonna do it tomorrow. ;)
[QUOTE]I was never tested for LD, but I wonder now, if I have it. I could never never NEVER memorize things for a test. I had to UNDERSTAND it or it didn't sink in. For instance, in science, I had to understand WHY the electrons spun around the outside while the protons and neutrons clung together in the middle.

In history, I had to hear the STORY of the Magna Carta...I couldn't just memorize the word and the definition. (It always burned me up that some of the A students didn't have a clue what they were regurgitating on their papers, but I got a D even though I understood the material!)[/QUOTE]


Here is a PERFECT example of global, holistic thinking (as opposed to linear)! The parts don't make sense on thier own because they are a part of something larger. I had the same thing with Spanish when I tried to learn as an adult--I needed to know WHY as well as what. I see nothing 'disordered' about that!
Have you had your IQ tested? Without knowing what it actually is, it's not exactly possible for anyone to tell you whether low IQ is causing your problems!





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