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Symptoms of ADD?
Nov 4, 2005
What are some of the symptoms, are all always present or can one just have one or two symptoms.
My 6 year old son has been in trouble at school since day one...He draws on the tables, hits other children, leaves the classroom and will go and sit in the lunchroom by himself. If you say or do something he doesn't like he will pick up something and break it. He isn't hyper. and he is a straight A student, so I just can't figure it out. when I ask him why he does these things he tells me that he doesn't know.....The school called and told me that I needed to sign the corporal punishment form so they can paddle him, that or they would suspend him....Any Help Would Be Appreciated.... :confused:
Have you tried homeschooling him? It sounds like he may have a sensory problem and at school that would be incredibly difficult to work with. The florescent lights may bother him, the sounds of other kids, etc. He may just be so overloaded that he can't handle it.

I definately would NOT sign anything telling ANYONE that they can hit my child. That is not appropriate and frankly I'm surprised his school would even think about that in this day and age.

Jeannie
Thats the way they do it down here. At the first of school they have you sign a form for or against corporal punishment. I have always said no, until this.
But he isn't much better ar home, he will break things, hits his brothers and sisters, he has 1 brother whos 4 and 2 sisters who are 11 and 7 months. It is almost impossible to get him to mind. And no it's not his parenting...lol...He can be the most loving little boy sometimes, he will come up and tell me he loves me and hug me, or like the other day his sister drew me a picture and he seen it and he said "that was so sweet of her". And other times he will take something one of them is drawing and rip it up.
Bought the baby a new stroller the other day and left the room, came back in and he had taken a marker and wrote his name all over it. I asked him why and he said "I don't know". I told him he couldn't play the game the other day and he picked up his daddy's coffee cup and threw it against the wall. I don't know what is wrong with him, the teacher also said maybe he should speak to a counselor. It's like he has two personalities.....
I would have him evaluated with a developmental pediatrician or an counsellor. This is obviously not normal behaviour but does not sound like ADHD. There may be something else going on there.

Jeannie
i am not incredibly qualified to answer this as i have little experience with children, but i know from personal experience that it sounds like it could could be an anger management issue. i was diagnosed with ADHD when i was a child, but even before this, i used to be extremely aggressive, so my mother had me see someone about my "anger management" issues. i was not a "bad kid," and also recieved high grades in school (and i've turned out just fine, by the way! on the shy side if anything, haha) but i used to hit my sisters, be very impulsive, and throw things. it could even be mild bi-polarity (him "having two personalities") but it sounds, to me, more of an anger managment issue. i'm just throwing it out there :) hope everything works out!!
Thank you for your responses. I guess I will see what the counselor has to say too.
How were her grades in school? My son has excellent grades. that is one thing that has us really stumped. What are some of the symptoms?
As I teacher, I have seen this behavior quite often. Just because a child is not slow academically does not mean that he/she can not experience behavioral problems. Take your child to a pediatrician and have him evaluated physically first, then have your pediatrician recommend a behaviorial specialist. Behavioral problems can come from pathological issues as well as psychological ones.
Dear Tabbithy:

I am an ADD single mom, with an ADD daughter and ADHD son for 23 years. My daughter's grades were average, but when she was small it took her along time to do her homework, and was exhausting us all.....very organized, slipped though the cracks, until things heated up in junior high, when the pace picks up.....extremely shy....become so stressed in high school developed panic attacks trying to keep up, found a GREAT PSYCHIATRIST, and pinned her right off the bat with some tests....she ADD but needed more time to finished tests, behavior perfect. Handwriting could win an award.
SAME AS MOM......I GOT TESTED FIRST....she was a carbon copy of sweet anxiety ADD me.....sweet child easy to love, hard worker as adult. works at Allstate....but is stressing out very easy....I worked at State Farm, pooped out from stress, being single parent also, now on disability for ulcers. Nerves kick in acid in the stomach when under stress in work and school, and if not treated other medical conditions can arise from stress.....Asthma kept her from smoking or drinking or unbecoming social behavior.

My ADHD son ! was small good boy in elementary years, excellent friends, wiggled constantly, and wiggled until moved his seat for his talking and moving around....Excellent grades not idead ADHD, TALKIING became a complaint of teachers, lack of homework, bad handwriting, but if they could read his answers he did fine, except for spelling and reading....5 milligrams of ritalin, and she has an associate degree, ONLY BECAUSE OF AN ARD, from the doctor etc. demanding the things she needed.....Beautiful adult. She had ADD with an anxiety disorder now. Same as me....Could be genetic, or too many years of stess, no expert, but it is here.

When Jr. High hit, the TEACHERS, were the clue........wiggling, laughing, talking, forgotten assignments, forgetting books at school, or from each class still polite boy, and besides the talking notes and clowning around at school it was hard to tell...

When High School Hit, the Teachers demanded the ARD, he was not reading up to par, talking, carousing, wiggling, clowning....grades excellent....he started suffering from stress and anxiety I could tell by a few ticks he was getting, and the notes from teachers complaining about his particular problem handwriting, class problems......grades started plumpeting now in Jr. high as the stress mounts and he acts like he dosent care anymore......HE IS ON 40 MG of ritalin.....and his grades rose ? But now behavior, friends, etc has changed, caught him drinking for anxiety.....and he is seeing his doctor every 30 days.......have to implement, you break curfew, loose car keys ? This is where they get in trouble, if you don't get in control of them.

ADD is VERY different than ADHD, and it has been HARD , NEAR IMPOSSIBLE to RAISE THEM AS A SINGLE PARENT, HAD I NOT HAD THEM DIAGNOSED AND A 16 YEAR NOT RELATIONSHIP WITH A PSYCHIATRIST SINCE 3rd and 5th grade for each.......How old is your son ? and what symptoms is he displaying now........ Signed ADD MOTHER ! YICKS ! :wave: :angel:
He is 6, He throws fits, breaks things, hits other children and no matter how many times you get on to him about something he will go right back and do it again. I have caught him hitting his 7 month old baby sister because he would be mad because I told him he couldn't have a cookie before supper. He draws on everything, got under the dinning room table and colored it. Got mad one day and jumped through a bedroom window, a closed window at that, luckily he wasn't hurt. He gets mad and tells people he hates them. He cannot sit still when you are talking to him, he moves back and forth but he can sit and watch TV for hours.
I talked to his doctor and she said as long as his grades were good, even if he was diagnosed they would not put him on any thing that what he need was tougher discipline. I tried to tell her that it doesn't work, he doesn't care how often you send him to his room, spank him, make him go without his game, stand in the corner, it doesn't work. His teacher told me he was close to being suspended from school and that I need to sign a letter for him to be paddled. He even gets up and sneaks out of the classroom. he is in kindergarten. He calls the other children names, hits them, draws on school property...I could go on all day....But other times he is an angel..He can be so loving, sweet, and you wonder how is this possible.
:bouncing: Yep, he is a sweetie pie, ADHD and bored to death at home and school......so was mine.....although mine now is 17, so I didn't have all the diagnoisis situation, and education there is now....so you are in a good era, but NOT SO EASY TO DEAL WITH......my instincts told me as an ADD ADULT, and I know how much I suffered, I would want help....until I was 30 I felt like I missed half my life.....my husband left me, for a child like you are describing actually two of them....was easier to leave them ................that is why medication was the MAGIC, my child needed......ADD 5mg ritalin for girl, 10 mg
for ADHD boy.......

Escuse me about the doctor, but your home life can't continue this way, nor can his school behavior......doctors NOW, to cover their butts these days are afraid to use medication along with behavioral therapy....SO I FOUND AN ADD PEDIATRICIAN.....I found another mother in my area, and/or called the school found a mother with adhd child, and asked they what pediatrician THEY were using.....I found an ADHD pediatrician, so he understand the heartbreak I was going through.....it can't go on like this, for you or him

That pediatrician then was able to put me in touch with a psychiatrist for ADD and AdHD adults and children, that one of his own ? and 16 years later he is still getting my boy through his Junior year in school......fighting for help that the law gives....and his medicine is distributed by the nurse, and now there are 12 hour medications...I TRIED IT MYSELF FIRST, SINCE IT HAS BECOME FASHIONABLE, TO NOW SAY WE ARE DRUGGING KIDS WITH RITALIN, BUT IT IS ALRIGHT TO BE ON ALL KINDS OF DRUGS FOR OTHER DISORDERS?

ALL THIS GUILT, WHAT IS ONE TO DO ? I couldn't IMPLEMENT the punishement plan, because being ADD I forgot I put him in the corner.....
So I went and got diagnosed first, for forgetting things, on stove, loosing keys etc......unable to complete tasks, etc. and got MY FIRST 5MG of Ritalin but I was not told what is was, and I went into a recovery unit from almost a nervous breakdown, from exhaustion, from looking for things, and couldnt follow a recipe ?

I though they had given me a wonder tranquilizer.....in 3 days of walking the floors, for the first time, 5 mg of ritalin, made me sit down for the first time probably in my life, talk to another adult, and SEE THE LEAVES ON TREES, ...in other words I could focus............relate to people and stop to see the roses, because he slowed my brain down with a pediatric dose of ritalin..........

I WISH MY PARENTS HAD FOUGHT, KNOWN, AND DONE THIS FOR ME LONG BEFORE I WAS DECLARED LAZY, AND UNFIT ! By then I had lost my husband, barely had to get out of high school......now homeschooling works well for children that WIGGLE ! If I had not had to WORK, because a child like this can cause great stress on a marriage, I would have HOMESCHOOLED HIM MYSELF.....THROUGH AN ASSOCIATION, WHERE THEY CAN RUN, TOUCH, AND WIGGLE........

MY BREAK CAME......when my 8 year old found the computer and saw a monster truck game on the computer ! I bought it instantly and the game, he played it for hours......the salesman said this is too old for him, but if an genius ADHD is interested in something you CAN BREAK THEM AWAY FROM IT...

Then I got him interested in World War 2 Videos, and bought him an airplane computer game with a stick, and off he went, every month all he wanted was more and more, and ADVANCED COMPUTER GAMES............he reading shot up, his spelling shot, up, until he started playing on the *** Gaming Zone with adults at age 10.......he was the captain of "grown men" that never knew he was 10 ? I went with what he was interested in, game boy, whatever it took..........he was happy and NOT BORED.....with a racing brain looking for something to do, and I found relief seeing him happy.

My psychiatrist who dealt in ADHD children, gave him his 10 mg of medicine, and he started listening in class, the TEACHERS WERE THANKFUL....it only lasts 4 hours, so sometimes I am sad, that I get to be "normal" focused for 4 hours twice a day, and then the wear off, you go back to normal so after school when it wears off can be difficult..... but then he got back on the computer....

AT 10 I got a doctor to insist he get to type his homework, and cut his assignments shorter, and ordered him and ARD, and no spanking that would just make him angry.....he dosent understand why he acts like this, I didn't and I was 33 years old ? What can we expect of him...

By the time he was 11 he was typing about 40 words per minute and knew ALLOT about computers I still don't know, and started his own website....I let him use a regular IBM, not a toy computer, that dosent interest them long....I gave up on educational toy games....he wanted the real thing, his brain needed the stimulation ......now by 17 he is building computers, drives to the psychiatrist himself, trys concerta and other longer acting drugs, because one day he told me wasn't TAKING MEDICINE.....

So I let him stop, his grades plumeted, and his teachers started punishing him, then he KNEW HE NEEDED HIS MEDICINE.....along with the teachers reminders and warnings.....now I don't have to nag.....

THE KEY IS TO FIND, OTHER ADHD MOTHERS, FIND A PSYCHIATRIST THAT SPECIALIZES IN IT, (MINE HAD ONE, I WAS LUCKY)...and that doctor knows he needs his medicine, like a diabetic does, which I am also now.....the stress and paddling in my younger years HAS NOT SERVED ME WELL AS AN ADULT, and what should have been a happy childhood was a yelling, punishing nightmare.....

INSTEAD OF TELEVISION, WHICH IS FANTASY, SEE IF YOU CAN GET HIM A PLAYSTATION GAME OR SOMETHING WHERE HE CAN USE HIS EYES AND HANDS, AND IT DEMANDS, HIGHER AND HIGHER THINKING SKILLS, that will challenge him to keep trying ! and he is LEARNING at the same time......I was lucky with Mario and Playstation came out, I TRIED TO STAY AWAY FROM AUTO THEFT !..........Don't let him go shopping to pick, you have to pick 3 for him, and let him select of the 3......

When my son outgrew the playstation though in months and hundreds of dollars, is when I found the *** gaming zone with monster trucks.........he played it for years....still does, visit back, needs to keep challenging his mind...

There are shooting games in World War II like format he may get interested in, and it gets rough, and MEMBERS throw you off if you don't follow the rules........so PEER PRESSURE.....makes him concentrate harder......

Oh, my see I am ADD, and went on say too long.....because I am so passionate about helping children with ADHD, before memories are ruined, when it can be changed with a computer and "challenging games", not spelling games.....

I invested and charged $1400 on the first computer that every came out, and thought I was crazy....the best investment I ever made.......now at 17 he built my last computer and is going to network wireless the two I have now....he needs constant upgrades, for his huge passion for brain stimulation, ram etc, but it has been less expensive and painful, than my husband walking away, and him being on drugs and other things they can see to try and calm themselves down......usually alcohol....

Doctors are great.........then the publicity for some drugs came on tv, and now they play it safe, and what if THEIR CHILD had jumped through a window ? I doubt, they would think twice about medical help.......find other ADHD mothers, ask them who they are using, even the teachers will know who the children are......behavioral treatment is helpful, but combined with medicine..............5mg of ritalin changed my life.....I WISH I JUST HAD FOUND OUT SOONER, before ruined relationships, and education I did not seek out...........find him the doctor he needs......the next window he may not be so lucky........that doctor is not listening.........obviously........

Any investment you make, which can be substantial for playstations, actually I just bought a computer I could use too, was the BEST INVESTMENT I EVER MADE, BEFORE I HAD TO PAY FOR A PRIVATE SCHOOL AT 6 FOR BAD BOYS, OR GETTING HIM WHIPPED, FOR SOMETHING HE CAN'T CONTROL......

I was shamed by my parents, and told I was lazy, and I slept allot and ran away and married at 17 never knowing why..........all this could have been changed by a psychiatarist visit, or pediatrician, who specializes in add.
Like I said I have been going for 16 years with mine, he fought teachers, fought abuse, etc. from 3rd grade now until Junior High, and now College taking 5 years now just for an associate degree, but they ARE MAKING IT, and happy to be more than known as "bad children".........and I am a better ADD mother, it is inherited in my family, but it took me allot of thinking to realize which parent had it.................then the light bulb went off, what symptoms did they have ?

I will let you go now, but there is an add website for children and adults which will give you lots of information.....there are millions of us , sweet, and caring ADD people /children ?

Write me if you wish back at [email protected]
Have a good day, information makes a better day !
After my medicine :wave:
Good for you HappyHome. Of course, when my 31 year son was a child there was not much on ADD. He wasn't hyper or got in trouble at school or home, but wasn't working to his potential. By the time he got to high school, his attendance dropped. He just wouldn't go. By twelfth grade, we went into counseling and I was told that he had to deal with his baggage, not me.

Now at 31, he is volatile in his relationships, he doesn't accept responsibility for his actions, he drinks (depressed), his credit is shot, he has been evicted twice and had a car repossessed. Thank God he has not had a run in with the law and he has been able to keep the same job for 12 years. I told him to get tested for ADD and counseling, but he doesn't think anything is wrong with him that just doing the "right thing" can't change. Did I mention that I left his father when my son was six because he was the same way? Now at 54, his father is practically homeless.

This is real, so parents, don't stop advocating for your children. Don't rely on the schools. They are overwhelmed with ADHD and ADD children. Take your children to doctors who specialize in behaviorial disorders and don't be ashamed. Once they become adults, it's hard to watch them mess up their lives and there is nothing you can do, but pray.
You are right Jossr, thank God I had insurance at the time, checked myself into a hospital for "panic attacks", found out through MANY tests, that I was an Adult ADD, that had not worked up to potential, married too young, low self esteem....I felt it has almost been to tough to turn myself around, but I had to advocate for those kids. ADD I find sweet, not many behavioral problems...with my daughter...

My psychiatrist met with my daughter first the youngest, gave same tests as a study, (because they are very interested in the genetics) and made the same exact errors on testing, me 33 and her about 8, and our "anxiety" rose after a certain time of sitting too long ........carbon copy, the doctors got more intererested.......and of course then I remembered which parent had ADD, it and how they suffered and tryed to cope....my mother and she didn't cope well, did not know about all this back then and hitting was the medicine then, or being called lazy...

Now SON ADHD is going to be harder! He is 17 and starting to get a "real attitude", dosent want to go to doctor, dosent want to take medicine, argueing, but very smart, and good negotiator, until you want to drop !

[COLOR=Red]I found an ADHD pediatrician [/COLOR] ! That has real sympathy for these kids, [COLOR=Red]and told me to buy a book, name ??? something about making a contract.....[/COLOR]

We made that contract, well HE DID....it had to include chores, cleaning room, allowance, curfews.............or the allowance and car keys would get taken away.....he signed it, he made it up, now he had to follow it........

Now implementation, puts him in rage sometimes, but if he stays on his 40 mg of ritalin, he accepts much better, goes to his room to play the computer and thinks about what HE SIGNED AND AGREED TOO !

Only one to blame then is his self ! He agreed to it ? However, he does need reminders, so I have a GIANT BOARD IN THE KITCHEN WITH HIS CHORES AND DAYS AND TIMES....AND HE IS RESPONSIBLE TO CHECK EACH ONE OFF EACH DAY, INCLUDING KNOWING WHEN TESTS ARE COMING AT SCHOOL.......Since your child is 6, at that age, I had colored construction paper, of yellow for "warnings....if you got 3 "warnings" you have to not get the reward....cookies, snack, mcdonald......he is young, so if he really wants something, and even does chores he got GOLD STARS ! FOR HELPING ! EMPTYING A WASTE BASKET, LOTS OF GOLD STARS BROUGHT PRAISE AND ANOTHER DIME IN THE JAR, THAT WAS GROWING BIG AS HE COULD TOUCH AND JINGLE ?

ADD OR ADHD, KIDS seem to lack perception of what they cant see....
consequences of their behavior, so VISUALS ARE GREAT, he can shake a money jar with pennies, and see all that good behavior....etc.....shoot even we adults, like seeing interest on our money ...



The problem is JOSSR, what happens when you can't afford all this medicine if you have a couple kids, and can't afford to see a doctor.......being a single mom, and diabetic now on disability at 47, Buying, diagnosing these kids is expensive....

Anyway, I just took my 5mg at 47, and I think my spelling and typing is a little better, than at night when I don't take it....JUST KNOW WE ARE WITH YA Tabbitha, you have a live one at 6, his brain needs the help.

Like I said I gave mine an old computer at that age and a game, and OFF HE TOOK, until he was playing World War II games on the Gaming Zone with grown men at 10, the captain (they never knew he was a kid) he learned then history, georgraphy, and strategy, and he wasn't BORED ! BOREDOM IS AN ADD OR ADHD WORST PROBLEM......get him interested in not just tv, but some of the good kids games, and an old computer, and we will play for hours. And get eye and hand coordination together......Now at 17, he types about 60 words per minute, and puts computers together, apart, builds, and helps an engineering firm, with updating, and medium problems if they get a virus....

Remember I had to finance that first computer and a monster truck game with action......still paying for it probably, but now he is the COMPUTER MAN...and we got it channeled into hopefully a good future, if we can keep him away from drugs and drinking, which is USUAL SOMETIMES for ADD or ADHD people looking for a rest ...........or relieve stress and boredom...

Yeh, the FIGHT IS HARD FOR PARENTS/TEACHERS/PRINCIPALS.....but so far it is paying off....YOUR RIGHT JOSSR, if I had not done it, I am afraid they would have messed up their life, in ways I did, and I didn't want to see that.

So TAKE HEART tabbith, first you do need to help yourself first, and then get help, with someone , organizations, Medicaid for diagnosis and medicine, and the ADHD foundation.....education, and friends who have ADHD kids that have researched and this BOARD! :bouncing: , can be your best friend ! Just taling to people going through the same thing is helpful.....thanks for chipping in JOSSR !

:bouncing:

Good Morning up at 5:53, We ADD just jump up in the morning....
find another doctor. have him tested.

get a counselor.

have the school counselor assess him-I'm taking the paper work the school couselor gave my 8 yr old's teacher and myself into the doc to see if he needs meds. I think mine is ADD. No behavior problmes at school (thankfully) but he saves them for home :)

When he does to something wrong--like writing on stuff-try to make the punishment fit the crime. Buy a bunch of mr clean magic erasers. Make him clean it all up.

Hitting is NOT allowed. (I have 4 boys---so it's a never ending battle here also) so we have almost daily talks about hitting......

I wonder if sitting down with him and making a list of the biggest issues you're having with him right now--hitting the baby sister--breaking things---etc and ask him what he thinks would be a good punishment would be...

maybe if he's involved with that--he might feel more in control of something? And he will know when he does it what the punishment is-you won't have to get so upset-just matter of factly say-well son....punishment for that is ____.

Just a suggestion.





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