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Let's wrap this up with stuff I got from my shrink mixed with a little of my own interpolations I think are fairly sound:

Adderall is a different medication than Dexedrine. As we discussed, Adderall is a mixture (not a compound) of 4 amphetamine salts. Adderall contains 1 part Dexedrine - brand name for dextroamphetamine sulfate, 1 part dextroamphetamine saccharide, 1 part d,l-amphetamine aspartate monohydrate and 1 part d,l-amphetamine sulfate.

50% dextroamphetamine and 50% Benzedrine (brand name for d,l-amphetamine) is another valid Adderall abstraction. To the best of my knowledge, Benzedrine is no longer available as a stand-alone. It's Schedule II rating evidently brought about it's demise.

What we need to know:

Adderall has different properties than Dexedrine and Adderall has greater toxicity.

Adderall works better for ADHD folk who need relatively more norepinephrine than dopamine to balance the scales. Dexedrine works better for those who need both in equal measure. Over-simplified in the extreme. Hopefully conceptually correct.

Some meds such as Strattera that target only norephinephrine work well for those who are short on norephinephrine alone. We all know how it works for those short on dopamine too. It SUCKS.

Dexedrine works as a norephinephrine and dopamine reuptake inhibitor at therapeutic doses. At high doses it busts open the receptors and floods the brain with dopamine and norpehinephrine and seratonin. Unfortuneately for us ADHDers, that feels too good, which makes Dexedrine evil and hard to get in the U.S.

The Canadians evidently assume a different posture. Dexedrine at therapeutic doses is the least likely stimulant to cause adverse side-effects. Therefore it is the least likely stimulant to be abused because of self-medication. Maybe we are dumb Americans afterall.

My shrink converted my 40mg of Adderall to 30mg of Dexedrine today. I wanted less than he prescribed. He reasoned I'm used to it so won't get buzzed and he feared less would not be enough to control my ADHD at this time. As soon as Walmart get's it in, I'll switch. May be a week wait. They have no Dexedrine in stock. It's too dangerous. They do have tons of Vyvanse though. Good thing that Vyvanse Dexedrine is safe and GSK's Dexedrine is dangerous. Damn Shire anyway. Dangerous to their bottom line.

It all depends on the unique needs of our brains and the golden rule. "He who has the gold makes the rules." SUCKS.
Bob,

Imagine trying to get an effective medication at an effective dose when you are a recovering addict. I've been clean 5+ years. I have been on Vyvanse for almost a year but found it to stop working around 1-2pm. Since I was only on 50mgs, I asked for a second dose of 20mgs to finish my day out. I was told that someone like me (meaning an addict) would not benefit from taking two of "these kinds" of pills a day. Not that I could afford it if it were prescribed. I then asked my doc, how long must one be in recovery to be able to get rid of the stigma and simply get the medicine they need? The answer was unsettling, addicts will always take a chance when taking anything that is mood altering. I knew that, but I want to be able to add my 2cents when discussing my prescriptions. So, in the end, she switched me to adderall IR 30mgsx2 daily. I was pleased with this because I have only heard good things about the pill. So I take it, with great expectations, and nothing, nada. If I felt anything, it was extreme sleepiness. I even took two the next dose, thinking my reaction was due to too low of a dose. Again, extreme fatigue. In fact, I feel fine before taking it, then when it "hits," that is when the fatigue begins. The next day, I decided to try three just to see. Again, I feel nothing and will not go above that so I don't fall prey to the stigma of addiction, I can say no. I thought maybe the pills were lemons, so I gave a half to my mother who is not an addict but has had her fair share of usage in her history and an hour later, she came to me speeding her ass off. So, it is me. I understand the differences in Vyvanse and Adderall, but my question is, is Dexadrine the IR form of Vyvanse? Will it produce the same effects? I never got speedy but the focus I obtained and the clearity at which I saw life was amazing. And I will be able to afford generic dexadrine where I can't the Vyvanse.

Meagan





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