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I am new to the site and seeking advice, support and answers. I am a mother of an ADHD 9 year old daughter that has been diognosed for 2 years now. The meds we have tried are beyond my memory capacity. One makes her sleepy and a "zombie" while others don't work. FINALLY we have been on Vivance for the past year and it's been great until it stopped working. We then tried Focalin this past month....it has been the hardest month of my life! She has become a totally different child! She is sooo defiant, mouthy, physical with me and others around us, hyper, makes weird noises and growling noises allll the time, loud, LYING, grades dropped, hateful, angry, sad and did I mention defiant? This is NOT my daughter! We went back for our check up and another med change! This time we are trying Intuniv which starts tomorrow! After all these action she is possessing it has worried me we have underlying problems. Is this typical behaviour of a med that doesnt work? ODD? Severe ADHD? I can simply look at her and tell her that I love her and share a smile and she gives me a glare that she wants to attack me and sometimes growels. Tonight we were in public at a ball game where normally she would be shy and quiet and sweet......she became defiant, loud, aggressive, rolled in the mud, hit us with rocks, embarrassed us completely where I had to pack up early and go home! I get on to her for her actions and explain why it's wrong and her behaviour but I feel horrible because I know its beyond her control. Just before bed she told me "im just not me, i dont know who i am and im sick of everyone hating me and being mean". My heart broke in a million pieces.....Con someone please help me? I am at a verge of breaking down with no knowing whats wrong with my daughter!:(
stylnader,

RE your question: [I]Is this typical behaviour of a med that doesnt work? ODD? Severe ADHD?[/I]

Absolutely. I'm no doctor, nevertheless, I'll tell you with 100% certainty, Foculin is the problem.

Cause and effect:

[I]We then tried Focalin this past month....it has been the hardest month of my life! She has become a totally different child! She is sooo defiant, mouthy, physical with me and others around us, hyper, makes weird noises and growling noises allll the time, loud, LYING, grades dropped, hateful, angry, sad and did I mention defiant?[/I]

All of her aggressive, out-of-control behaviors are being caused by Foculin. At the ball game [I]she became defiant, loud, aggressive, rolled in the mud, hit us with rocks, embarrassed us completely ... where normally she would be shy and quiet and sweet. [/I]

Your daughter's character is shy, quiet and sweet. Her [I]defiant, lying, loud, "makes weird noises and growling noises allll the time," [/I](a good layperson description of Tourette Syndrome) are out-of-character, came AFTER she started Foculin. And her symptom cluster is medically recognized as a bad reaction to a stimulant medication.

Your daughter does NOT have any other underlying problems except for those Foculin induced; ODD, Tourettes, and badly exascerbated ADHD. They should resolve themselves once Foculin is out of her system.

I advocate medication when medication is a necessary part of the overall strategy used to control ADHD symptoms. Certainly good diet, exercise and sufficient sleep must be in place first. Then, if necessary, medication may be added to the mix.

Intuniv just may work for your daughter. If Intuniv fails to sufficiently control her ADHD symptoms, adding Dexedrine may help. Nevertheless, more will be needed even with the best ADHD medications for your daughter.

Does her school offer services for ADHD kids? We do not learn step by step - sequentially - and repetition totally whacks us completely bonkers.

Give us a visually oriented, first the big picture through observation, then the details, system of education and we are quite capable of scholastically surpassing our peers that do not have ADHD.

Diet, exercise, sleep are given the attention they deserve. Too little attention is given to the perhaps more important modifications to the environment to one where we work well. Most school systems are negligent in what they offer for their ADHD students - a problem very difficult to overcome if private tutors are not a viable option.

Bob





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