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Hi Greggr, I might have mentioned I just got out of a 30 days rehab facility and then relapsed. This disease is patient and lies in wait.

According to my experience and what I have been taught, depending on the quantity of the vicodin you were taking, Buprenex doesn't have to be used for a long time. At least for me, there were NO w/d symptoms after taking the Buprenex and I was able to use it in a sublingual form. The pharmacy compounded it. There is now a pharmaceutical (sp) company that sells a sub-ling tablet, however it can only be prescribed by certain shrinks (just check to see if yours can do it, it beats the heck out of the shots).

I get Buprenex can be abused if someone really, really tried, but there really is no high from it. As it was explained to me, it's an opiate agonist/antagonist which basically means, if it were not for the "antagonist" property, it would be like giving yourself a shot of morphine. The fact that it has BOTH properties means that you (or at least I) felt virtually nothing. It's not what I FELT that counted, it's what I DID NOT feel, which was withdrawal symptoms. I could not believe it. I was coming off 12-15 Lortab 10 a day, then went on Buprenex and felt absolutely no w/d symptoms. I stayed on it for about 7 days. Some people can take one shot of Buprenex and be fine. I would say stay on it as long as you need to or as long as you can. Tapering off BUP should not be difficult at all. In fact you should not have any w/d symptoms from the BUP. It WILL get you off the opiates physically, it's the staying off (mentally) that keeps giving me trouble. Two other things: the BUP is SOOOO much better than methadone b/c of the addictive property of meth and make sure your Doc. knows if your taking any benzos (Valium, Xanax) before you start the BUP. There have been isolated reports of "sudden death" mixing valium and Buprenex. It's in their literature (the company that makes Buprenex). Write back if I can answer any other questions. The bottom line is Buprenex is an excellent detox.

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