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Re: Interesting?
Jan 31, 2004
Yinksy, (where did you get that name? Are you a character from literature? Russian? Polish? I give up.)

Stumbled out of bed at 6 a.m. (and I do mean stumbled--I tripped over my dog), staggered out in about 12 degrees farenheit to retrieve a couple of quadruple shot lattes, then sat down and read your treatise on benzos.

Wow. Is this all from your head?? Or partially from a text? The reason I ask is that I see a few numbers...23...24, preceding some of the topics. Whatever--it is amazing reading. It sure woke this dozy brain from a perfectly mindless state of somnabulence!! :D Deep reading first thing in the morning, so I am going to read it twice. (read it several hours ago.) It's 10:20 a.m. here in NY.

One thing particularly struck me. I have been a lousy sleeper from the day I was born!!! Waking every hour or two, going to the bathroom (yes, I had that checked out). I'm taking one ambien a night--in halves--and STILL wake up. There was never a time in my life that I slept normally. Whether I was off antidepressants, on antdepressants (which saved my life), hydros, benzos, Excedrin, name it. Even when I was on NOTHING I slept like "The Talking Clock" (a telephone number you call here for the exact time.) If you tell me I have to leave the house at 3 a.m .(which I recently did)-I'll be up by exactly 2. Though I can "program" myself for 2:20 if I crave a few more minutes. My friends can't believe it.

I wake up very early--for good--at 5 a.m. or 5:30. Go to bed quite early. To be honest, if I went off the Ambien--I doubt I could ever tell by any sleeping changes that I was off it!! :rolleyes: I guess I get about 5 or 6 very interrupted hours of sleep per night. The only positive side of all this getting up in the middle of the night is that I have increased my reading time ten-fold!!!

Anyway, I've been like this for all my I was very interested as to how sleep works in the brain. I've studied (just for my own interest) the causes and effects of depression on the brain since my first full-blown clinical depression--1974, when I was living in London. Tricyclics were just becoming "the thing." I had practically no side effects--and went from feeling I had been granted membership in the Beelzebub Club, to, three months later, remembering how lovely a flower could smell!! I tried over the years to taper off--and was rewarded by the worst ten years of obsessive-compulsiveness. Was saved by Prozac, which aims at that behavior. After three very major clinical depressions (endogenous in two cases--at least to my way of thinking!), I don't "test" my brain anymore. These pills totally stablized me. It's the hydros that have to go!

Anyway, thanks for all this information. Makes me think of a New Yorker Magazine cartoon that cracked me up. I've hung it up at work. It shows a patient sitting in his underwear on an examining table in some medical cublicle. He is obviously talking away, describing his symptoms....and his Doctor is holding up a hand to stop him, saying "w-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-y too much information!!!" :D I could be that patient--there's never [I]enough [/I] information.

Great, informative post. Both my dogs are snoring away right now--I study them prodgiously to learn more about true sleep! :jester:

By the way--my identical twin sister has EXACTLY the same medical history and sleep pattern that I do. (Except Alice's clinical depression were slightly less severe. Each time, mine required 3 months "isolation" from life's responsibilities! ANY stimulation--and I mean ANY ( i.e.; the loud ticking of a clock, a voice on a radio) was unbearable. Strange.

Again, thanks for taking the time to post all that informative stuff.


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