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bigtuna,
I take offense to your post. As an addict, I have a disease that is every bit as legitimate and deserving of care as someone with cancer, or CHRONIC PAIN. I did not choose to have this disease anymore than someone chose to have a brain tumor. Yes, I am responsible for my recovery, and I don't think anyone here is saying that obtaining drugs illegally (and that includes doctor shopping and taking too much of whatever was prescribed to you) is a good thing.
Most of us have enough guilt and shame over what we are dealing with in our lives and come to this board for help and support. Many of us find comfort in this board because people with addictions are unfortunately still very much shunned by almost every group in society and therefore it is difficult to get appropriate, affordable treatment.
Many of the pain pills are wonderful medications when used by someone who has a legitimate need for them and used properly. I also think it is unfortunate that people struggle to get adequate and appropriate medications. But as someone who is in the medical field and whose whole family is in the medical field, the problem with doctor's reticence to prescribe narcotics at times really has very little to do with people like me. It is much more a factor of inappropriate training in medical school about BOTH the fields of addiction and pain management.

Please have some respect for people who come to this board for support. I do not go to the pain management board and blame chronic pain patients for the existence of narcotics that I then got addicted to...
There is a difference between brutal honesty and displays of ignorance.
HHHHHHmmmmmm.
Now lets see.I don't know where to go on this one.

BRILEY who started this post:How ya' doin? I also had back surgery,and a number of other treatments to my back I won't bore you with.
You're Md. sounds like a good one.If you are really in pain,Vicodin stinks.When I was in pain the stuff was nOT what I wanted...I wanted to get out of Pain!!

It's funny looking back.....you just brought back a memory.I remember when I was in your shoes,I used to give away my meds to all these guys who reeeeally seemed to need/want them bad.I had a seemingly endless supply,and since THEY DON'T REALLY MAKE THE PAIN GO AWAY I couldn't care less about them.They would all tell me how bad their back/knees/ankle/whatever hurt,and hey! they aren't workin' for me..take 'em!

I ended up in a chronic pain center,and would be given 100 norcs at a time being told to take 3,3 times a day.I couldn't IMaginE taking that many!!

so......

after a full recovery and NO more pain!(different story) I had about 800-1000 pounds fall on me at work......NOW the fun began...I was really angry about the circumstance of the accident,my bosses attitude,etc,etc.My hand didn't work for two months so no guitar,baseball or work...depression!!

So....5 years later I'm finally off the vics(on sub) for 2 weeks and feeling good about my prospects for getting off for good.

Because you are concerned about addiction,you probably never will be.That thought never crossed my mind back then.

BigTUNA is entitled to his opinion.I actually agree with him/her that it's not a disease.I do wonder why he/she had to come on this board with it.I don't think I've ever bought or sold hydro on the street,or if I did it was .01% of my total consumption....No..I had those dope-pushers in the white suits get me all my dope...you know the ones. The ones with the stethoscopes hanging around their neck...they glance at your chart and then throw a scrip at you because they're late for their golf game.

Hey BigTUNA...I don't have a disease..but I AM addicted to hydro and doing something about it,and so are all the other people in this forum,whether they know it or not.

The fact that someone comes to an ADDICTION forum and participates,generally means they know they have a problem and are working away from it.Sometimes when I clean my house,I temporarily have to make it look worse as I tear it apart to re-assemble it.

I came here to NOT do them,as has everybody else here.

Love ,peace and woodstock
----Baseball
[QUOTE=Baseball65]HHHHHHmmmmmm.
Now lets see.I don't know where to go on this one.

BRILEY who started this post:How ya' doin? I also had back surgery,and a number of other treatments to my back I won't bore you with.
You're Md. sounds like a good one.If you are really in pain,Vicodin stinks.When I was in pain the stuff was nOT what I wanted...I wanted to get out of Pain!!

It's funny looking back.....you just brought back a memory.I remember when I was in your shoes,I used to give away my meds to all these guys who reeeeally seemed to need/want them bad.I had a seemingly endless supply,and since THEY DON'T REALLY MAKE THE PAIN GO AWAY I couldn't care less about them.They would all tell me how bad their back/knees/ankle/whatever hurt,and hey! they aren't workin' for me..take 'em!

I ended up in a chronic pain center,and would be given 100 norcs at a time being told to take 3,3 times a day.I couldn't IMaginE taking that many!!

so......

after a full recovery and NO more pain!(different story) I had about 800-1000 pounds fall on me at work......NOW the fun began...I was really angry about the circumstance of the accident,my bosses attitude,etc,etc.My hand didn't work for two months so no guitar,baseball or work...depression!!

So....5 years later I'm finally off the vics(on sub) for 2 weeks and feeling good about my prospects for getting off for good.

Because you are concerned about addiction,you probably never will be.That thought never crossed my mind back then.

BigTUNA is entitled to his opinion.I actually agree with him/her that it's not a disease.I do wonder why he/she had to come on this board with it.I don't think I've ever bought or sold hydro on the street,or if I did it was .01% of my total consumption....No..I had those dope-pushers in the white suits get me all my dope...you know the ones. The ones with the stethoscopes hanging around their neck...they glance at your chart and then throw a scrip at you because they're late for their golf game.

Hey BigTUNA...I don't have a disease..but I AM addicted to hydro and doing something about it,and so are all the other people in this forum,whether they know it or not.

The fact that someone comes to an ADDICTION forum and participates,generally means they know they have a problem and are working away from it.Sometimes when I clean my house,I temporarily have to make it look worse as I tear it apart to re-assemble it.

I came here to NOT do them,as has everybody else here.

Love ,peace and woodstock
----Baseball[/QUOTE]

Morning Baseball: Sorry that I caused such a stink with my inquiries about Vicodin! I had an appointment with my back surgeon last week and we discussed my pain problems. I told him that my butt, thigh, legs and feet hurt every day, all day long. He suggested that we try Neurontin along with the Vicodin and, lo and behold' it does HELP. I had been inquiring about that particular medication which is primarily used to treat nerve pain - so I was extremely happy that he wanted me to try it. I have been on it now for 5 full days and I can honestly say that my pain has diminished about 75%. It is not a narcotic. Thank God. I have spoken with other people who have been treated with it and they say it works for a while, but after about 2-3 months, it quits working. I am going to be optimistic and at least give it a good long try. If I didn't have to sit for 8 hours every day, I probably would not have all this pain. Let me say however, that if anyone warrants taking pain medication, it is people suffering with back problems, surgery. etc. I do long for the day when I can say, "I am pain free!" I feel for all the people using this forum for help with addiction. My heart goes out to anyone suffering, whether it be physical pain, emotional pain, or addiction, etc. We need to try to comfort and encourage each other in whatever way deems appropriate. Good luck to all of you. May we all reach our common goal - freedom from whatever.





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