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OK, so what I think I'm hearing from you all is that suboxone is not a good way to deal with ultram. So that wouldn't be a good option for this. I guess I was thinking that if I ever really just wanted OFF all at once that it may be the way to go. This is really a hairy problem(as they all are)..if I get off the ultram what will I do about pain? I don't know what to do...I guess the best thing is to taper back down within the allowed limits which is 400mg, knowing I might feel some "blues" as a result, but at least that would eliminate the worry about the seizures. Ellen, you said it really well...ultram just screams at you to take practically eliminates depressive feelings..and of course that's not why I'm taking it. It also helps a great deal with pain. But now that I've been taking it so long I get those depressive feelings if I don't take it. And I never even suffered with depression prior to this. Maybe a little bit of blues here and there but not all out depression. And I do find myself reaching for it too often when it's not time etc.....

Thank you for your help! Ellen, you sound like you really have a great grip on things and I know you'll continue to have the willpower to get that ultram dose where you want it.


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