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hey gang how goes it.just wanted to let the ones know that are interested that the ingredients in nutracleanse are listed and all seem to be 100% safe from my research.it is a complicated mix of herbs and vitamins all mixed and ph balanced for nasal entry.it would be almost impossible to make and mix nutra yourself,and it would be much more costly.update on myself: i have been clean and opiate free going on three weeks now usin nothin but nutracleanse itself.stopped usin nutra about week and half ago and had no w/d or feelbad or sickness whatsoever.i did order one more bottle just for the extra energy and for the paws that i know are on its way.but this will be my last bottle,just dont need anymore at this point.you can believe me or not, but i have been heavy opiate user for over 7yrs and this is the ONLY thing that has really worked for me and actually got me clean and opiate free.been on suboxone twice now and could never get off it without relapse.nutra is the best thing that i know of to use if you want to get clean with the least amount of discomfort.as far as a dosage goes,you have to use it accordin to how you feel at the time.if jonsin bad use more until you feel better.when my bottle comes in i will use two drops per nostril in am and see if that makes it all day if not maybe another drop at lunch or around 5:00.there is no set dose,you kinda have to figure this out on your own.cost is another factor but if you get clean does it really matter,not to me it doesnt.all i can say is it does work if you want to get clean and it works for the cravins also.it also will work for a taper and works well.

-spark
where is this available? the health store or something?
[QUOTE=OCboy03R6]where is this available? the health store or something?[/QUOTE]

Hi There, The NC is everything that Spark has claimed it to be as I use it also. It is an absolute miracle and a life saver!!!!

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ValleyGurl
is it addicting?
[QUOTE=OCboy03R6]where is this available? the health store or something?[/QUOTE]

P.S. I am curious.....what does the 03R6 stand for????
[QUOTE=valleygurl]P.S. I am curious.....what does the 03R6 stand for????[/QUOTE]
03(year i graduated and i had a 03R6) R6 is a streetbike
[QUOTE=OCboy03R6]is it addicting?[/QUOTE]

It shouldnt be as the ingredients consist of vitamins and natural supplements.
i looked up nutracleance and this product should be the answer to everyones problems! 100% guaranteed, and it taked away all of the w/d symptoms, it doesnt get any better then that!
i ordered it on Sparks recommendations. I am a longtime lurker and sometimes poster, but more lurking than anything. I also used Sub in the past and it helped but the WDs were extremely difficult to deal with.

It has helped me and no, it is not addicting. It gives you alot of energy and it can get you kind of sleepy too. I like it and will continue to use it occassionally.

Good luck...and take care. :cool:
hi agent can you tell me what your old name was on the board long ago i cant recall.glad the nutra has worked for you and hope you are clean.i think i was the first one to post about nutracleanse on this board and was hopin it might help at least one person the way it worked for me.kinda worried some might not like the post but all have been positive.the money back guaranttee does work as a friend sent it back and got full refund so you cant lose and just might get clean in the process.also i have noticed that it sometimes will make me a little sleepy but i thought it was just me.good luck my friend-spark
Hey spark,

Glad to hear you are doing so well. I also have been clean since 10/6 with the help of nutracleanse. I still need it though for energy - it is costly - but great. Did you only use the one bottle? good luck all-jewel :angel:
jewell,so so glad the nutra has helped you with the w/d and recovery process.i agree the energy it gives is the best and this is the only product that ive found that will do this and i have tried herbals,vitamins,and all prescription meds.just a couple of drops will pick you up immediately and take the w/d and blah feelin away.it is amazing to me and only wish i could have found it yrs ago.it must be the combo of ingredients and the way it is processed that makes it work so great i really dont know,but i swear by it at this point in my recovery.the only reason i could never get clean in the past was the god awful w/ds and blues.the nutra takes this almost all away.to answer your ?,no one bottle is not nearly enough and i am on my fourth bottle and might get another in a couple of weeks if i get to cravin or the paws hit me hard.i highly reccomend to stock up on at least two-three bottles of nutra before goin cold turkey.in the beginning for me and most others it takes much more than dr.stronach and his staff recommend but they say this is perfectly alright so need not to worry.yes it is high but it is still cheaper than the pills i was buyin every other day so i will not complain whatsoever.jewell,i hope by my posting about nutracleanse here will help you thru the w/d and on to full sobriety.i pray for you and all here-spark
i heard it was fake from other boards is this true has anyone honestly used it and worked?
I personally did not have success with it. It appears many on this board have. I bought it based on the reviews posted by others. I am the only one on this board that I've seen post negatively. I really could feel no difference after using it at all. I don't know that it's related but 3 days after trying it I developed a nasty sinus infection. I have never had problems with my sinuses other than an occasional cold. But, this is the worst sinus problems I've ever had. Ear ache, ears popping, noise sensitivity, can hear my heart beating in my ears, pain behind eyes, tender face under eyes and in forehead, severe headaches. Maybe it's a coincidence and not related..I just can't say for sure. I just know that I got no benefit from the NC that I noticed.
That's just my experience. If it works for you great....I'd do anything that made this easier. It's certainly worth a try.
anyone else?
i would like to get a lot of input as i did just purchase it this morning and i am currently day 3 clean of oxycodone, which i am addicted to, using methadone but i dont plan on using it forever. i wanted to use this NC after the methadone, but i wanna know if its going to work... i plan on going through w/d's after i stop using methadona but iom hoping its not that bad
Hey OC - Yes I have been able to come off suboxone - which is hard to do - tried 2x before and suffered terribly. I tried the nutracleanse while I was tapering and felt so great - I decided to try to come off the suboxone. The nutracleanse gets rid of the w/d's like a minute after you do it. You have to keep using as you feel symptoms coming back - but it worked for me and many others - I am clean since 10/6 for the first time in 8 years. good luck.jewel :angel:
begin did you send it back for a refund.if it didnt work you should have got your money back.you are the first that i know of that it has not worked for and i go on several different boards.-spark
Hi to all,

I've googled the nutracleanse, and I can't find any site that sells it as a liquid (someone mentioned in a previous post that they put the drops in their nose). I can only find a few sites on it and they all mentioned nutracleanse selling in pill/capsule form. I'm not detoxing but would like to try it for the energy. Can anyone help guide me to find out how to get it in liquid form?
Hi all, I am with Spark and the others whom the NC has worked for!
I swear by the stuff it is great! For me, it does take all the yucky feelings away....mental and physical.....as well as give you a super boost of energy.
I highly recommend for anyone to at least give it a try....it could be the help you need to finally be clean.

ValleyGurl
thank you i will post my thoughts/feelings of after i recieve it
Here are the following ingredients as stated on their website:

Fructose, Ascorbic Acid, Vitamin E Acetate, Niacin amide, Vitamin A, Vitamin B6, Riboflavin, BHA, L-Arginine, L-Tyrosine, DHEA, Muira, Puama, Palmetto, Berry Siberian, Yohimbe, Mint Extracts, Eucalyptus Extracts, Methylxanthine Complex, Phenthylxanthine Complex, Green Tea Leaf, L-Theanine, L-tryptophan (minute amounts) Norambrolide, Amino Acid Complex

Now let us see here...fructose is a simple fruit sugar you can get from eating any fruits. Ascorbic Acid, or what is commonly called vitamin C, you can buy dirt cheap from any drug store or even cheaper: Wal-mart. Same with all the other vitamins listed. All the amino acids and herbs can be bought at any good health food store (skip GNC, it is a rip-off!). The point is, one can buy all these ingredients and mix them yourself for probably at least half the cost of the Nutracleanse, and your supply would probably last you at least 10X as long as well. Moreover, the most potent ingredients such as the Green Tea, the L-Theanaine, and the insignificant amount of L-tryptophan are amongst the one's listed near the bottom of the list, which means that there are less of these ingredients proportionately in the formula then the more abundant, cheaper oneís, such as all Vitamins. No thank you, I think it is a big waste of money. Maybe the reason people perceive it to be so effective is because you use it intranasal and it subsequently gets into your system quicker.
there is no way the average person could mix this stuff and make it work thru the nostril.some of the ingredients arent able to be absorbed thru the nose and have to piggyback wtih the ones that do absorb easily.also they all have got to be mixed exactly right and ph balanced for it to work right.it takes alot of scientific equipment to do this and i dont recommend anyone try this on thier on as this is when it could cause health problems.astro,if you can figure this out and try it on yourself then i might consider doin it but not now.i myself dont think the price is that bad if you use it and have the mindset to get and stay clean.to me there is no price to be put on this.the w/ds are so bad for me that whatever i can use to get rid of them i will use it.nutracleanse does do this and i highly reccommend it for all who want to go thru w/d with the least amount of suffering.good luck in your sobriety astro and i hope you find a recipe that we can use and save us some money-spark
well said spark i agree w/ u
[QUOTE=spark-o-cet]there is no way the average person could mix this stuff and make it work thru the nostril.some of the ingredients arent able to be absorbed thru the nose and have to piggyback wtih the ones that do absorb easily.also they all have got to be mixed exactly right and ph balanced for it to work right.it takes alot of scientific equipment to do this and i dont recommend anyone try this on thier on as this is when it could cause health problems.astro,if you can figure this out and try it on yourself then i might consider doin it but not now.i myself dont think the price is that bad if you use it and have the mindset to get and stay clean.to me there is no price to be put on this.the w/ds are so bad for me that whatever i can use to get rid of them i will use it.nutracleanse does do this and i highly reccommend it for all who want to go thru w/d with the least amount of suffering.good luck in your sobriety astro and i hope you find a recipe that we can use and save us some money-spark[/QUOTE]

What I meant by 'mixing', is ingesting all the various pills, powders, (such as fructose) sequentially, one after the other, preferably after a meal, as long as this is done with food in your stomach, you shouldnít get sick from it, after all, they are just vitamins and amino acids, thatís all. I do believe though, that in light of several testimonies Iíve read here, that it does seem to work well for a lot of people, which is great! Itís still difficult for me to believe that the product takes away most, if not all the withdrawals though. Because I look at the ingredient formula, and just can not see how it could possible reduce or eliminate THE SEVERE withdrawals like some people claim UNLESS there is some other 'magic' ingredient they failed to list, which would have to work much like an opiate, or somehow mediate the opioid receptors. In my opinion, through personal experience (and Iíve tried a lot of approaches with various medications and herbs, etc) and through hours and hours of research, I firmly believe that the only thing that will relieve the intense, acute, opiate withdrawal symptoms are either another opiate of some sort, or medications that act as alpha-2 agonists, such as clonidine and zanaflex. By activating the alpha-2 receptors in the locus coreleus portion of the brain, these two drugs are, in effect, putting the brakes on the excess noradrenalin production in the brain that is caused by abrupt discontinuation of opiates in an opiate addicted person. It is this excess noradrenalin production, that is responsible for a lot of the nasty physical withdrawals of opiate addiction such as anxiety, sweating, restless legs (especially at night), all of which I have experienced many many times. Etc. Hence, I can emphatically understand the desire to put an end to the horror of the opiate withdrawals. After numerous attempts to kick the habit on my own, I was finally able to do it after going to rehab; Even after that, I still had to withdrawal off the suboxone they put me on at the treatment center and unceremoniously dropped me off of with very little taper within a week after I left; during which time I slept maybe a total of 4 hours total in 5 nights. And it was only after my doctor put me on REQUIP, to treat my restless legs, did I actually start sleeping well again. Iíve been off the suboxone for 12 days now, and feel great!

I think I came off the wrong way in my original post, itís the skeptic in me I guess., I in no way want to discourage people from taking whatever action(s) they can do (aside from taking another opiate) to help eliminate their withdrawals and start to feel comfortable enough to pick back up with their life, and most of all, start to enjoy the simple pleasures in life, that we all us addicts missed while we were caught up in the insanity of our using. Take care and thank you for listening.
Astro,
What you've said makes alot of sense to me. I too am a born skeptic I guess. There were just alot of different things that made me uncertain about what is in this bottle. Not the least of which is the claim that it is aproved by Health Canada. If you've ever read their guidelines you'll find the bottle is supposed to be labeled with a full indgredient list and a number issued by Health Canada after approval. My bottle was not and the ingredient slip that was included did not have the ingredient list they claim. In spite of my doubts I tried it a few times and got no effect except sinus problems.

Anyway, there is certainly value in it if it works for anyone out there to curb the terrible withdrawls. The only way to know is to try it. I don't want to debate it, I just think people should do their own research & make informed decisions. What is good for one is certainly not always good for another. That's my two cents.
no astro we appreciate you lookin out for us thats all.if you have time maybe think about talkin with the dr that made nutra and ask him your questions and concerns and see what he has to say.he will be glad to talk to anyone maybe he can help us understand this.sounds like you went thru a very hard time in gettin clean but you sound good and sober and this is what it is all about.i was the one sounding harsh after i rrread my reply.sorry-spark
[QUOTE=spark-o-cet]no astro we appreciate you lookin out for us thats all.if you have time maybe think about talkin with the dr that made nutra and ask him your questions and concerns and see what he has to say.he will be glad to talk to anyone maybe he can help us understand this.sounds like you went thru a very hard time in gettin clean but you sound good and sober and this is what it is all about.i was the one sounding harsh after i rrread my reply.sorry-spark[/QUOTE]

No problem my friend, I hold no animosity towards anyone here, we're all in this together. Astro.
thank you astro,again if you have time think about my suggestion.you would understand more of this type stuff than i would.thanks-spark
Hi everyone!
I have been following your posts on the NC. I too use it. I'm a little scared though. This stuff seems to work miracles for me as far as helping me feel better which leads me to believe there may be something else in it. I am 18 days clean now but I ran out of my first bottle of NC after 13 days and felt AWFUL until my next bottle came two days later. It was almost as if I were going through withdrawals from the NC. Maybe I just came down with something and it is a coincidence that I felt so bad after running out. Anyone else have any thoughts on this? L.
[QUOTE=331111]Hi everyone!
I have been following your posts on the NC. I too use it. I'm a little scared though. This stuff seems to work miracles for me as far as helping me feel better which leads me to believe there may be something else in it. I am 18 days clean now but I ran out of my first bottle of NC after 13 days and felt AWFUL until my next bottle came two days later. It was almost as if I were going through withdrawals from the NC. Maybe I just came down with something and it is a coincidence that I felt so bad after running out. Anyone else have any thoughts on this? L.[/QUOTE]

You know, people keep coming up with similar suspicions that some of the rest of us are having. There is only one way we're going to find out the truth:

1) Find a reputable lab and have it chemically analyzed, and many of us could chip in for it.

or:

2) Find a reputable lab and have it chemically analyzed and I'll pay for it myself. (It just might take a little while to save the money, depending on the cost).

Sorry, I just have this gut instinct that something isn't right about this. Hopefully i'm wrong.
i feel kind of yucky from it too, but its not WDs though. Its kind of blahish and sluggish, but no physical WDs, depression or anything that accompanies hydro or Sub WDs. I rather take NC than nothing at all. Over and out.

Take care and good luck :cool:
i agree with ya agent thats exactly the way i felt when i quit takin it.much better than hydro/oxy w/ds.i like nutracleanse much better than suboxone.good to hear from ya agent and keep us updated about the nutra good or bad.your friend-spark
Hello All-

I have been taking the nutracleanse for about 3 weeks. It is so helpful. I have not been in acute withdrawls because I have been clean for months but did have a recent relapse. The main thing is the energy this stuff gives me! I have tons of energy but don't feel jittery or stimulated just up and happy. It doesn't feel like opiates but like some of you guys I am a little concerned. I ran out this weekend and did not have withdrawl but did feel sluggish and low energy. That was the only side effect but that was bad enough. I got more today and am feeling great again. I am not as much worried about what is in it as much as I don't want to take this stuff forever and it's expensive. For the people who haven't found it helpful maybe you haven't tried enough...you have to put a good squirt in each nostril. At first I didn't use enough and it wasn't very helpful but now...ugh! Well jsut wanted to put my two cents in. Good luck to everyone.
good to hear from you keep,glad the nutra has worked for ya with the relapse.try not to use anymore after this bottle you just got if possible,it sounds like you are doin so good i would not want to chance something happening if you dont need it.what i mean is if the nutra is makin you feel tired and sluggish and it does somewhat,it could possibly lead you to take a pill to counteract this.just be carefull and use what you think you need to.what worries me is that i was the first one to bring word of NUTRACLEANSE to this site and alot of good people here took my word on it and it worries me that some may have problems cause of me.i cant see how that they can have any problems from nutra but it worries me anyhow.after i tried my first bottle of nutra and saw how good it works for the w/ds i wanted to let as many know about it as possible and let them make their own decision whether to use it or not.i explained exactly how it worked for me and tried to answer any questions that my friends had.i still say that nutra is the best thing i have found for gettin off opiates in eight yrs and still highly reccimmend it to anyone in w/d or on the verge of w/d.good luck-spark
by "sluggish and low energy" what do you mean by this? has anyone used nutra to get over the w/d and then stopped using it? maybe you just feel like this for a day or two...
Hi Spark and all,

The NC does indeed make me feel up and energized! I absolutely LOVE it!!!
Yes, I am also a bit concerned about what may really be in the product but not enough to make me NOT take it. You see, before i herniated disks in my neck and suffered with the chronic pain, i was always an energetic person and could never understand how people got so tired and needed naps during the day, however a few months before i hurt my neck i started getting very fatigued and then i hurt my neck. Once i started taking the narcotics for pain and got my pain under control i realized the euphoric feeling and the energy that the pills gave me....well that is when the addiction started. Over the past 4 years (since i hurt my neck) I have been on and off the pills and even after being off the pills for a length of time i was still fatigued as before. So really, to be honest, all of my relapses are due to that search for energy that i once had. I am soooooo tired of being TIRED!!!!

Well, the NC has given me hope as it gives me the energy that i soooo have been looking for, but as you all know....it is VERY expensive!!!!!
The first time i used it i didnt feel any different, but then the second dose is when it won me over!
I generally use 4 drops per nostril unless i dont feel i need that much.

I went to the doctor today and asked about Provigil once again. He finally prescribed it to me!!!!!! I am sooooooo excited and cant wait to try it!
I plan on trying it first thing in the morning!
I know in my heart that if the Provigil works for me, i will have no reason or want to take the nasty pills anymore or the NC! This could be the answer for me!

Soooooo please.......everyone.......say a prayer for me! OK?

Love to all,
ValleyGurl

P.S. I indeed emailed NC asking questions. I asked why the bottle doesnt have the number that should have been given to them by Health Canada.
They didnt directly tell me why, however they did give me a DIN # 80000893 as i told them that the product hadnt been located on the Health Canada website when searched.

Also i asked them about the labeling on the packaging "Bath Oil". They said that they label it as that because it falls under the category closest to "Bath Oil/Herbal Supplements" as it is not a food that is ingested by mouth as according to the FedEX.ca categories.
I also wrote them directly with some questions. They responded quickly and thoroughly. They said the get a lot of people who use their product specifically for the energy. A lot of their costumers have Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. I am with you Valley, I love it! That is kind of what bothers me but clearly not enough to stop taking it. By tired and sluggish I meant that I was very low energy, draggin a** all weekend. It probably would have gone away if I gave it more time but was impatient and got more NC.
valleygirl you go girl.im with ya i think nutra is the best thing to get off opiates and get energy.i tried to get a dr to write me some provigil back in the spring and he would not even consider it.be carefull it can be addictting also.maybe alternate the nutra with the provigil and not be on either very long.im so glad you are happy with the nutra and that you sound so good and upbeat and ENERGIZED!!!!!i pray that by me bringing nutra here to this board that it might help one person.your posts sound so much better i can remember when they didnt cant you.good luck prety lady-spark
[QUOTE=spark-o-cet]valleygirl you go girl.im with ya i think nutra is the best thing to get off opiates and get energy.i tried to get a dr to write me some provigil back in the spring and he would not even consider it.be carefull it can be addictting also.maybe alternate the nutra with the provigil and not be on either very long.im so glad you are happy with the nutra and that you sound so good and upbeat and ENERGIZED!!!!!i pray that by me bringing nutra here to this board that it might help one person.your posts sound so much better i can remember when they didnt cant you.good luck prety lady-spark[/QUOTE]

OHHHHHHHHH Spark.....you are soooooo sweet! Yes, I am feeling pretty upbeat and very optimistic! I will be very careful with the provigil! Ya know, i tried to talk to my dr back in the beginning of the year about the Provigil but he wouldnt hear of it, using the excuse of the many meds that i was on at the time with all of them having fatigue as a side effect. I tried to tell him that this was a problem before i even ever needed the meds but he just wouldnt listen. I just went in there today with the mind set that i was going to come out of there with a prescription for it and even put up a good fight! To my surprise, i didnt even have to fight for it!!!!!!!! I will let you know tomorrow how it works for me. Have you considered changing doctors?

Talk to you soon!
Lots o Love,
VG
I finally found a lab, within the USA, that is willing to analyze a sample of the nutracleanse (for a fee of course, but i'm trying to negotiate that down :cool:) using a method called Chromatography, which they claim is one of the most accurate ways of detecting exact ingrediants and amounts, I'll keep you all posted on the results, but it may take a few weeks or so as its not like I can drive to the lab (located on the west coast) and just drop the stuff off and vice-versa! Plus, I have to order it first from Canada...lol

Astro
[QUOTE=astrolifter]Well, through the help of some of my friends on the some of the other addiction boards, I finally found a lab, within the USA, that is willing to analyze a sample of the nutracleanse (for a fee of course, but i'm trying to negotiate that down :cool:) using a method called Chromatography, which they claim is one of the most accurate ways of detecting exact ingrediants and amounts, I'll keep you all posted on the results, but it may take a few weeks or so as its not like I can drive to the lab (located on the west coast) and just drop the stuff off and vice-versa! Plus, I have to order it first from Canada...lol

Astro[/QUOTE]

That is awesome! Keep us all posted ok?

VG
appreciate you goin thru all the trouble astro.let us know.i wonder if a person could get one of the more expensive drug tests that shows what kinds of opiates and see if anything shows up.might save some money-spark
[QUOTE=spark-o-cet]appreciate you goin thru all the trouble astro.let us know.i wonder if a person could get one of the more expensive drug tests that shows what kinds of opiates and see if anything shows up.might save some money-spark[/QUOTE]

That is a GREAT idea Spark!!!!!!!!!!! Ok....so who is gonna do it????? lol

VG
i agree with y"all. I love the energy it gives me as well. As addicts, we love anything that gives us a buzz. I believe them to say that it is all natural chemically altered vitamins and amino acids. Canada and Europe are so strict when it comes to certain "drugs" compared to the USA. NC is right on FedEX catagorizing it as a "bath oil" because I tried to fill out a commercial invoice and that's what it said.

I'm a little worried too but hell, I could sleep and eat and be a normal person but with a lot of energy. I take that over a RX for pills.

Good luck and take care :cool:
I have been reading this post and was just too curious....

Like all of you, I have no clue what could be in this stuff, that could take the WD away, like many of you have said it does, but did take the list of ingredients to a local health food/Vitamin store in my area, which specializes in Natural remidies....
I explained what this was being used for, that it was Nasal drops etc and that it seemed to Halt the physical WD from Opiates or at least severly diminish them as well as giving the user some amazeing energy and asked if they could see any ingrediant listed that might, in some mixture, accomplish this?

Well....from the list of ingerdiants I gave them, they said they COULD account for the energy boost, the mixture of several of the ingrediants, the "Dr" said, would be simular to drinking several cups of starbucks coffee, but mixed, would not cause a caffine jitter, but even they were baffled at the list as far as easeing the WD????

I was curious....for those trying this...would it be possiable for anyone to take a home drug test, one that tests for opiates and see what the results are?

Angel :angel:
[QUOTE=valleygurl]Hi Spark and all,

The NC does indeed make me feel up and energized! I absolutely LOVE it!!!
Yes, I am also a bit concerned about what may really be in the product but not enough to make me NOT take it. You see, before i herniated disks in my neck and suffered with the chronic pain, i was always an energetic person and could never understand how people got so tired and needed naps during the day, however a few months before i hurt my neck i started getting very fatigued and then i hurt my neck. Once i started taking the narcotics for pain and got my pain under control i realized the euphoric feeling and the energy that the pills gave me....well that is when the addiction started. Over the past 4 years (since i hurt my neck) I have been on and off the pills and even after being off the pills for a length of time i was still fatigued as before. So really, to be honest, all of my relapses are due to that search for energy that i once had. I am soooooo tired of being TIRED!!!!

Well, the NC has given me hope as it gives me the energy that i soooo have been looking for, but as you all know....it is VERY expensive!!!!!
The first time i used it i didnt feel any different, but then the second dose is when it won me over!
I generally use 4 drops per nostril unless i dont feel i need that much.

I went to the doctor today and asked about Provigil once again. He finally prescribed it to me!!!!!! I am sooooooo excited and cant wait to try it!
I plan on trying it first thing in the morning!
I know in my heart that if the Provigil works for me, i will have no reason or want to take the nasty pills anymore or the NC! This could be the answer for me!

Soooooo please.......everyone.......say a prayer for me! OK?

Love to all,
ValleyGurl

P.S. I indeed emailed NC asking questions. I asked why the bottle doesnt have the number that should have been given to them by Health Canada.
They didnt directly tell me why, however they did give me a DIN # 80000893 as i told them that the product hadnt been located on the Health Canada website when searched.

Also i asked them about the labeling on the packaging "Bath Oil". They said that they label it as that because it falls under the category closest to "Bath Oil/Herbal Supplements" as it is not a food that is ingested by mouth as according to the FedEX.ca categories.[/QUOTE]

I sincerely hope we are not getting too far off topic. We are supposed to stay on our experience in using the product and not talk about ordering and web sites and such. But I feel very strongly this is applicable to our health and long term sobriety. If I've crossed the line...my appologies in advance. The skeptic in me just cannot get past the following:

The DIN number given does [B]not[/B] appear on the Health Canada approved list. I personally think that the Fed Ex declaration has more to do with it getting through customs to the US than the "category". They could certainly say "vitamins" or "health supplement" instead of bath oil sample which is declared at 1 cent value. I have done alot of traveling and I can tell you I have family very near the Canadian border. We go every summer. They are very very strict about what you are bringing back accross and how much of it you are transporting. More so in the last year than ever before.

Also I don't know if anyone else checked this out, but the address they list is a very high end retail establishment in Toronto at a very high end address. You can however, for a fee, pay to use the very high end address as your own for business correspondence. Maybe it means nothing. This just doesn't add up for me. I really worry about what is in there. Anyone can make ingredient claims on a website, but can it be verified by researching through the proper organiztions? Not so far.

I still say if it helps and you are comfortable with it..go for it. Withdrawls are awful. They can be overcome without NC...I am living proof of that. It is hard but very very worthwile in the end if you can stick with it. I just want everyone to be safe and careful and make informed choices about what you are putting in your body. The idea is we are trying too get better and I'd hate to use something that can start another dependency..even if it's not narcotic. Could it lead us back or lock us into a very expensive need in order to function?

Just playing devils advocate. In the end we all must do whatever works.





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