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hi funnym, so sorry you are having a such a struggle hon, but it WILL get better:) Just keep reminding yourself that it is only TEMPORARY and WILL pass!!! Just when you think you can't endure it any longer is when it will turn the corner and get better so don't give up!!! You CAN do this!!! And, just think in one week you are going to feel soooooooooooooo much better, maybe not great, but MUCH better. And each day thereafter will progressively get even better for you.

What is happening is normal; it is just the temporary nasties of detox. During detox, and for a period of time in post-detox though to a lesser extent, the brain signals have random misfires; levels will vary among individuals. While you were taking painkillers some brain signals were put into sleep mode which is what produced the pain relief. When the drug is stopped, those sensories go into WAKEUP mode. As the sensories wakeup they will peak to high intensity around Days 2-3 w/WDs and usually begin their desent about Days 4-5; by Days 6-7 you will feel much better. However, you will have a residual post-detox period with some miniWD and malaise/energy loss. Your body now has to recaliberate itself and organize its components to work without the patterned external supply you have been giving it. Kind of like when you delete a computer program and need to run defrag to get everything run right again;) During that readjustment period your body's engine will spit and sputer like an old sluggish engine that can't quite get the gas flow regulated. Those misfires will eventually be re-regulated by the brain and a smooth flow will start again and progressively lessen Post-Detox WDs. It just takes time.

However, there are things in the meantime that you can do to help support your body's journey back to normal:

[B]1. You must exercise 20-30 min day[/B]; walking will do it. Exercise is the activity that sends a demand signal to the brain to activate the endorphins to produce more dopamine and serotonin; substances that help your body regulate heartbeat and body temperature as well as cope with pain, sleep, and depression.

[B]2. Next, you should consider supplements.[/B] If you haven't already reviewed it, check out the Sample Home Detox thread located in the Moderator's Section on this Board. Specific supplements folks have found helpful are listed there. The levels mentioned are for the intensity of Detox WDs; post Detox WD levels would be less. Also, know that supplements alone are not likely going to eliminate all post detox WD symptoms. Only the body can achieve that through exercise to re-regulate your endorphins. The body is a miraculous thing. It is designed to heal itself, and it will over time.

I would say the key supplements to consider might be:
[others listed on above referenced thread]
B-Complex Blend
Anti-Oxidant Blend
Zinc/Magnesium (50-75 mg 3x daily @Detox WD level but ONLY after eating food or it will make you sick) [ provides pain relief and help w/depression]
L-Tyrosine *[I]w/ B6/50mg [/I] (1,000-2,000 mg during Detox WD level & reduce post-detox; also reduce if you get headaches or diarreah [post detox malaise/enery/depression] *(B6 improves the absorption of LT)
Sam-E [pain relief and mood balancing]

Additional things to know:
If you are taking SSRI antidepressants do not take L-Tyrosine or St John's Wort without consulting w/your doctor---as all effect your levels of serotinin and depending on the level of your SSRI, adding LT or SJW could possibly create an imbalance.
FunnyM, hang in there sweetie, it WILL get better!! The emotional rollercoaster is part of it. Don't let it scare you. It will pass. The fastest acting stuff on the depression right now will be zinc/magnesium and L-Tyrosine w/B6, Bananas, orange juice, and Hershey's dark chocolate.

The zinc/mag can be purchased at any drugstore (50 mg or higher x3 times daily AFTER eating food or it will make you sick). The LT will likely only be at a health food store however do not take if you are on an SSRI antidepressant without consulting your doctor regarding balances; both elevate serotonin levels.

Opiate detox results in raging diarrhea for many, and that substantially depletes the body of vital nutrients, in particular B-vitamins and potassium. The importance is those are key regarding the intensity of WDs that come AFTER the diarrhea phase; i.e., anxiety (loss of Bvitamins) and leg syndrome and depression (loss of potassium).

Bananas are one of the richest sources of potassium which is the reason I have them on the Home Detox list. WDs cause blood pressure spikes; potassium helps lessen the blood pressure spikes (especially critical if detoxing off benzodiazepines to help reduce risks of seizure!).

I don't know exactly which ingredients are in dark chocolate that help, but it works......especially with opiate cravings during post-detox. There is a known crosslinking between opiate cravings and sweets in general. Any sweet helps with WDs but there is something more in the Hershey's DARK chocolate that works even better. I know it sounds strange as hell, but it has worked for too many people to not be payed attention to as an effective option. Also, orange juice makes a major difference, it has both potassium and sugar.

One thing that you notice once you give your body orange juice or the dark chocolate or any of the other replenishment foods on the list, is that your body will signal you with a craving for certain foods. The body signals you with cravings for what is low in. Once you have made the association by providing it, it recognizes the things it needs in THAT source and you will get cravings for that food. It is somewhat like training your body to recognize that it can get what it craves, or something close to it, from an external source other than what you have been providing it with opiates. It all sounds strange I know, but I am telling you it works plain and simple.
FunnyM, hang in there hon, upset tummy/nausea/cramping can be a WD sympton for many. Your energy level will flatline and bottom out to the point that you feel if your house caught on fire you likely wouldn't have the energy to get out and the depression level is such that you just don't care and would say screw it burn baby is a hardship emotional/physical phase but it WILL pass. If you can, just go to bed and rest as much as you can. Your old self WILL be back, and you aren't going to believe how much better that you will feel. Once you turn the corner it progresses pretty fast for 2-3 days and then levels off again and the progression becomes slower, but you will gradually get better each day thereafter. There will be some random firing pingponging of mini-post detox WD things until all your sensories reconnect and are operating smoothly again. You need to try and eat or drink liquid meals like Ensure or SlimFast; both are nutritionally balanced. Through the worst days for the most part I jsut had SlimFast, bananas, orange juice and dark chocolate. Then started on soup and frozen meals, but still had the bananas, oj & dc. Just keep adding food things as you feel you can. Don't forget to start trying to work those muscles....I know you feel like crap right now and feel like you can't lift a finger...but lay in bed and just tighten and release muscles ...tighten as hard as you can and do slow release will help with cramping and it is pre-training endorphins to get ready and start working for you.....very important to do because until your endorphins start working for you it will delay the phases you MUST get the pump primed and going as soon as you can. And, you MUST drink as much water as you can...not just liquids....WATER...water has natural minerals that you need to get back into asap and keeps your body cells helps with joint pain as well---your body is 55-65% water so very important to keep your balances stable or an imbalance will worsen WDs, especially aches and pains. Need to nurture your body with support it needs to help it get through this battle.

You should start to feel a little better tomorrow, but will still be fatigued...that is NORMAL....your body has been fighting one helluva an internal battle fighting WDs so you will have battlefatigue for a couple of days. You are doing great!!!

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