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My thoughts are that if a person has never been addicted, they will never understand why an addict does the things they do to get their drug of choice.

For example, my husband struggled with (and recovered from) two separate addictions years ago. I could sympathize with him, I could see the things he did, and how he acted & I know how it made me feel to see the man I love do those things, BUT I couldn't truly understand how he felt or the drive within him pushing him to do things he would have never done had he not been addicted.

Addiction strikes at the very core of a person, therefore takes over & deletes all reasonable thought processes. When a person is in withdraws they will do things they would never even think about doing if they were sober. It's a need that cannot be subdued until it's met. The addiction takes over, thus ruling an addicts personality, line of thinking, etc.

And, as corissa stated, it's not just addicts who do these kinds of things. I can tell you that if there were a desperate situation (natural disaster, etc.) and my children were going hungry & I had no money & no food, I would more than likely be driven to steal food to feed them. Sounds bad, I know, but as corissa said, "Desperate times call for desperate measures".

Take care, and this is a very interesting question. I'm sure others will chime in.
[QUOTE=nec1912;4855038]I know pain meds can be addicting but
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Hello nec1912,

Addiction of any kind is no joke.

Reading about drug addiction and experiencing it first-hand is as different as watching a particular sport and participating in the game.

If you can agree with me that self-preservation is a key component to a human beings existence,then please allow me to go further.

Self-preservation under the influence of substances is a whole different dynamic altogether.
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Do you realize why police officers give sobriety tests?

It's because studies have shown that once a certain amount of alcohol enters the bloodstream,a person's judgement becomes clouded,rendering them incapable of having full control of both their body and mind.

Just like people have different tolerances to pain,so goes for withdrawals.

Plain and simple,if a person's mind's not right,then anything's possible.

If both mind and body are compromised,please place the last three words in my last sentence in italics,bold type and underline them....

It's that serious.

Respectfully
Phoenix
[QUOTE=nec1912;4855038]I know pain meds can be addicting but some times I read in the news does not sound right exmple in the news.

1. going from doctor to doctor and hostpital to hostpital to try to get pain meds by making up a story.

2. robbery or theft at a pharmacy.

What is the person thinking? Is the withdrawal symptoms that bad .

Like why would the person do that? If the withdrawal symptoms are that bad and the person does robbery or theft at a pharmacy should the courts not put the person in jail do to the person is going through bad withdrawal symptoms .[/QUOTE]

Nec1912-
I meant to reply to this a week or more ago, but just didn't find the time. It stuck in the back of my mind though, and I found myself thinking about your question and reminding myself to get back to it. Well finally here I am! : :)

I don't think it is possible to explain or rationalize why someone would do those things if you aren't yourself an addict (or recovering addict). I honestly believe that some brains are just wired differently. Some (actually most) people who get a bottle of Hydrocodone or Percocet will take the pills exactly as prescribed and never think twice about taking more and will still have that same half empty bottle years after they filled the prescription. Yes it relieve their pain just the same as it relieves the pain in an addict's brain, but in an addict's brain it does something else.

I believe that addiction goes hand in hand with other mental disorders, and that most addicts are probably severely depressed to begin with or bipolar/OCD/ADHD and most likely a combination of these. I don't know if you can imagine what the darkest depression feels like, how completely alone and miserable existence can feel like. I would wake up and cry because I had to get out of bed and face the world. You are facing divorce, foreclosure, you lost your job, and you have three children to support who you love for more than anything in the world and there is a good chance they will be taken away from you and you will be alone. There is nothing in life that you enjoy doing, and there is nothing you look forward to. You don't want to go anywhere or do anything except curl up in a ball and lay in bed and cry. You don't find joy in anything you do, your smiles are fake and you never really laugh. Each day that you are alive is a long battle of convincing your mind not to think about the best way to kill yourself.

Then you discover when you take that same Percocet that your friend took, that not only does your pain go away, but suddenly you feel a little better. You have enough energy to get up and sweep the floor, and you take some enjoyment from talking to your wife. You call a friend up who is surprised to hear from you because it's been so long. You go outside. The next day you do the same thing and feel the same way, only a little less so. A week goes by and suddenly you find that you aren't feeling the same way, and you are slipping back to your old thoughts. You wonder if taking two of the pills instead of one will make it better.

I don't know if you can imagine why someone would rob a bank or steal to get medicine because you can't imagine what drove that person to that place in the first place. I'm not excusing the behavior, I know it's wrong, but I understand why they do it. I have stolen from family/friends, lied and cheated. It's not just that withdrawal is that bad, it's that LIFE is that bad for these people. Depression is a horrible thing, when your own body has turned against you. Your very own brain is suggesting ways to kill yourself. Of course it quickly becomes an obsession with the pills- they are the door to a better life. You very quickly realize that those pills equal life, or at least in your mind they do. Without those pills you have to face reality, and yourself, and all the stress that you never learned how to deal with even before the pills. Imagine that you were already thinking about killing yourself before you started taking the pills, now you are even more desperate to get them. A person in that state of mind would do just about anything.

Yes you can get better. I am no longer addicted to pills. I am still deeply depressed, but I am learning better ways to cope with life. I hit rock bottom and was lucky enough not to die when I did it, and I was lucky enough to have a family and another chance.





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