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Re: Morphine detox
Jul 16, 2012
I had a pain pump that malfunctioned and my pain mgmt doc called in clonidine patches and some klonipin (like valium) - told me I was going through withdrawals and to call them in 10 days if the patch and klonipin did not help.....

They did not seem too upset that my pump had ceased to work and that I was in the throws of severe withdrawal - and they would not see me as an emergency patient - they insisted they would not see me for at least 10 days.

It is up to you what you decided to do - it sounds like the pain pump would be a great option for you if your body needs that much pain medication -

Questions to ask your doctor regarding the pain pump -
What medication or medications will he put into the pump?
What concentrations or amounts to start and how often will he increase in the beginning to find what works for you?
Are there upper limits or caps on the amounts of meds he will put in the pump (like what is happening with you now?)
What happens if you reach the cap or the highest amount of a pain med in the pump?
Will you get oral meds for breakthrough pain while on the pump?
How much oral medication will he give you - will there be limits like the ones you have currently reached?

Also, find out what happens if you need emergency care regarding pump issues - I had several emergencies throughout the years when the wrong meds were put into my pump and I had severe allergic reactions etc and my local hospital would not treat me - until the pain mgmt doctor was contacted and my pain mgmt doc did not call back for 3 days -

So make sure you know who to call and where to go if you decide on the pump.

As far as detoxing for resetting your pain levels - it is a good idea. If you did a slow taper you would be in so much pain for a much longer time....believe me I know. Doing a 60 day detox is a good way to go.

The way narcotics work is that the more you take the more pain you feel - sounds crazy but scientifically it is what happens. That is why your body thinks you need more and more of the narcotic to help the pain....your body's chemistry changes and the way the brain perceives pain is dramatically changed.....

Taking narcotics short term after surgery or an injury is okay - but once you start to take them everyday for narcotic maintenance therapy - your brain develops a dependence and so does your body - and then it takes more and more to narcotics to control the pain.....

Many pain patients take a drug holiday - which means that they either are asked to reduce the amount of meds or change them altogether so the body does not get "used" to one drug or dependent on one drug.....changes them up or reducing the amount can reset your body/brain chemistry also.....

Whatever you choose to do - do your homework and research everything before you decide.

Hope some of this helps.

Powergrub
Re: Morphine detox
Jul 16, 2012
[QUOTE=unclejehu;5020536]*********************************************************
Thank you for your answer: I was so much in shock that I didn't get the name of the patches. I will see him again Aug 10 and will have a list of questions for him. I will get back to you when I find out more info.[/QUOTE]

Something else I thought about that may help you and your pmp. Do you keep a pain diary? If not, I think you should start like right now. Write down what you are doing when you start having pain, the time, what meds you are taking and how much? Keep a chart of it for like maybe a week or so and see if you have a pattern. Maybe it's something that you do that makes the pain worst. Or a certain time a day. You also didn't say what your dx was that you are on the morphine? If you don't want to answer that, I totally understand. I just wanted to see if it is any future that you may not need to take these type of medications. I do agree with feelbad when it comes to your pmp making this decision all of a sudden. I have been under pm for years and I take Fentanyl (which is 100 times stronger than morphine). I also have meds for BT pain. So it does sound kind of shocking that your doc saying that is the max they will go. Like I said maybe that is as far as he is willing to go. Its just if you are in some real pain and you are having health issues that he would try and do something else. From what I have heard and read on the pump you should def do some research before going through with that. Make sure that you are not left out in the cold if something goes wrong with it. Those are things you would like to know. I look forward to hearing from you after your doc appointment but in the meantime maybe you should try the pain journal for the next week or so. Talk to you soon. Muah!
Re: Morphine detox
Jul 17, 2012
[QUOTE=luvinmusiq;5020852]Something else I thought about that may help you and your pmp. Do you keep a pain diary? If not, I think you should start like right now. Write down what you are doing when you start having pain, the time, what meds you are taking and how much? Keep a chart of it for like maybe a week or so and see if you have a pattern. Maybe it's something that you do that makes the pain worst. Or a certain time a day. You also didn't say what your dx was that you are on the morphine? If you don't want to answer that, I totally understand. I just wanted to see if it is any future that you may not need to take these type of medications. I do agree with feelbad when it comes to your pmp making this decision all of a sudden. I have been under pm for years and I take Fentanyl (which is 100 times stronger than morphine). I also have meds for BT pain. So it does sound kind of shocking that your doc saying that is the max they will go. Like I said maybe that is as far as he is willing to go. Its just if you are in some real pain and you are having health issues that he would try and do something else. From what I have heard and read on the pump you should def do some research before going through with that. Make sure that you are not left out in the cold if something goes wrong with it. Those are things you would like to know. I look forward to hearing from you after your doc appointment but in the meantime maybe you should try the pain journal for the next week or so. Talk to you soon. Muah![/QUOTE]
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Thank you for your input: Yes, I do keep a pain journal as well as a notebook that I annotate for each dose whether morning, afternoon or night. Yes, I'm beginning to think the DR is more interested in selling a pain pump rather than switching me to fentanyl or something else. I will be getting a second opinion next week from another pain dr.

I take 100mg ER and 60mg IR morphine every 8 hours. I have had two fusion surgery's. One on my neck which worked out very well. The last was L4/L5 fusion. There is the problem. All my pain goes from the surgical site to my tail bone. Sitting for extended periods or light lifting aggravates my pain. I can walk (to keep in shape) as long as it's a flat stretch.

Is the fentanyl in patch or pill form?

thank you!





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