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Osteoblast - I've checked out a few things and also read MG's reply regarding what i'm taking. My T3 med is a genuine med and it has nothing to do with actual Iodine Therapy. Even though my T3 med is known as Trioiodothyronine, it's also known as Liothyronine.

My doctor isn't alternate, he is a doctor at a University and he practices, does research and is helping another professor with information being written for a thesis on Hashimoto's. He is also hoping that all the information accumulated from various patients will help change the way the medical field treats, diagnoses and deals with people who have a thyroid condition or for those who have thyroid figures which might not be off the scale, yet are suffering a heap of symptoms related to a thyroid condition.

He's a very good doctor and even has people fly in from interstate simply for a consultation and then they fly back home. I have every confidence in him and also the fact that my previous doctor, who treated me when i had the low iron and was low in other things, actually referred me to this new doctor.

I hope he is successful in changing the way things are being done at the moment as it should help a lot of people. Shame more doctors aren't this driven.
not to play devil's advocate, but what's with the focus on numbers here that are within the normal range ... I can understand focusing on a hgb/Hct/ferritin/serum iron when your low and symptomatic ... but it seems like people are titrating medications to a specific number, when in reality there's now data proving a benefit, are people more concerned with their symptoms ... if you're iron deficient and undergone repletion with subsequently normal lab values, why focus on a target ferritin ... why not focus on target symptoms

heck .. there are plenty of people suffering with a low grade anemia of chronic disease by lab diagnosis but have no symptoms and they're not receiving EPO or blood transfusions and they are often happy as a clam ...

it seems that the goal of therapy after repletion should be to keep people symptom free, not at a specific number, right now there's no widely accepted data to suggest an ideal ferritin number, most hematologist/IM/FPs are going to titrate your meds based on symptoms or look for other causes of symptoms after normalization of your numbers ... otherwise the focus on reaching a specific number in itself can be self-defeating, as there are plenty of people who will subconsciously manifest with somatic symptoms as they fret over not being at their "ideal" number

just my two cents, but would be interested in what people think
hermes - some of us have doctors who have actually helped us, unlike those doctors who simply believe in "within range", and our doctors have given us a figure as guidline of where they feel we would be best at. Yes, some people possibly get too fixated on a particular figure so they don't see outside the square and become oblivious to other things which are going on eg: is your low iron a symptom of something else.

When it comes to ferretin, provided nothing else is wrong within the body, it is required to be 70+ ug/l and maintained at that level or higher for at least 3 months to effect a significant decrease in telogen shedding rate and for hair in the growing (anagen) phase to be restored to normal.

Ferretin of 125 - 150 is recommended to generate sufficient quality adenosine triphosphate (ATP). If ferretin is too low for ATP formation it leads to increased adrenal testosterone production which is then used as an alternate energy source. Free testosterone is then converted to DHT which miniaturises hair follicles.

Imbalance of iron will depress the immune system, not to mention affecting the thyroid and your adrenals.

At the end of the day everybody is an individual and ferretin will affect each of us in varying ways. It all depends on why you are low in iron in the first place and how long you have been low. Once you are at the low end of the scale for too long then you can end up with other symptoms such as the hair loss, poor immune system, thyroid condition or if the iron is due to something else going on in the body then the low iron is a symptom. Once iron is bumped back up it can revert a thyroid condition back to normal if nothing else is actually wrong with the thyroid.

At the end of the day i know which doctor i'd rather have. I'd rather the one who wants my ferretin over 70 and even over 100 if possible. I don't want the one who is blase and simply states "you're fine; you're within range" and when i keep going back to him he prefers to stick me on antidepresants or on birth control as a bandaide fix.

I've had my set of condtions for at least 7 years, if not 10. Nobody cared until i found one great doctor who got me half way and then had to refer me on to somebody else who i have confidence in getting me over the finish line. Neither of them blow people off with being "within range". They have targets for their patients as they understand that the body is like one big set of dominos. You throw one thing out and it will affect something else.....................but how long will it take for you to feel unwell, feel affected by everything???

See, that's the thing. It's all fine even being low in something and still feeling healthy. It's when you can actually begin to feel the symptoms and when you find out it's too late for some things as they were not picked up sooner due to your particular doctor thinking being at the low end of "within range" was totally acceptable.

My ex gp is in for a tutotorial once i get myself ready. I refuse to allow any more patients to be blown off the way i was. The good thing is i know he will listen and wont throw me out of the surgery :D

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