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Hi all! I finally convinced myself to join HealthBoards. I am hoping that someone can now shed some light on my situation.

I have suffered from anxiety (generalized to panic attacks), manic depression, OCD, and negative thinking for many years. To help combat my OCD, I started taking Luvox about 13 years ago at the age of 16. Even though I took Luvox, I still experienced vast amounts of anxiety, depression, and negative thoughts that really crippled me throughout high school, college, and the workforce. As the years progressed, my anxiety and manic mood continued to escalate out of control. Life was definitely not getting any easier as I approached my mid to late 20s. Over the last 2.5 years (since April 2007), I have spent countless hours trying to analyze and alter my mood with herbs and medicines. I basically put my life on hold and funneled all my time and energy into psychoanalysis.

To make a long story short, back on April 13, 2009 I began an elimination diet that my Sister introduced me to. The premise of the diet was to eliminate foods that are commonly known to cause an intolerance or allergy. So I started the diet in full force by stripping my meals down to the very basics. To highlight the major categories, I eliminated dairy, eggs, corn, soy, wheat, gluten, peanuts, oranges, most sugars, red meat, pork, and shell fish. I also stopped taking all supplements except for 800 mg of fish oil, Luvox, and Glycopyrrolate (used to treat Hyperhidrosis). Adjusting to the diet was quite a feat and shock to my body, especially in the first week. Surprisingly, about one week into the diet, I began to notice my worry, anxiety, and depression diminished. The most noticeable thing was the anxiety and worry because that was the ruler of my life. Gradually, as I continued to adhere to the diet, I felt more at ease. I was simply blown away by how my mind went from having hundreds of negative racing thoughts a day to almost none. I also noticed that the longer I was on the diet, the less revved I would get, especially when I was under a lot of stress. My anxiety, bewilderment, and panic attacks had become a thing of the past. In fact, I was able to stop taking my Luvox for the first time in 13 years after I was on this diet for a month.

I felt fifty times better on this diet than I had before, except for a couple of things. One, my energy and strength levels had severely dropped. Two, my motivation and excitement about things continued to diminish. At first I thought it was maybe a lack of nutrition, but by now I have added everything back to my diet except for milk, wheat, and gluten. I also tried to intro three different brands of multi-vitamins at three separate times, but each multi either caused severe pressure in my head (I am about 95% sure high doses of B vitamins cause this), or some other bodily/mood reaction (congestion, worry, irritability, etc.). By the way, I made sure the vitamins were free of all common allergens and intolerable foods and they were reputable brands. I even tried a childrens’ multi-vitamin with loss does of vitamins and minerals (around 50% of DV), and even that gave me a headache. I have also tried supplementing with D-3 (this helps to perk me up, but too much, even 400 IU, causes a headache over the course of a week), 5-HTP and L-Tryptophan (both cause a headache), and some others.

As of today, I have been milk, wheat, and gluten free for almost six months. The only supplement I take today is fish oil (EPA Gems by Carlson Labs). I take one soft gel consisting of 580 mg of Omega-3 acids every other day or every third day. I have to be careful how much fish oil I take because too much of it can build up in my system over the course of a week or two. If this happens, I will become even more lethargic. For your information, fish oil used to never do this to me before I began the diet. The fish oil is the only thing I take today. I TAKE NO MEDICATIONS.

This is all great except for the problem I have with lethargy, apathy, and motivation. Additionally, I don’t really feel like I have any emotions or creativity. It's like a part of my brain has been shut off. I have lost interest in hanging out with friends, my career, meeting a woman, partaking in fun activities, and so forth. All I ever feel like doing is sitting around and not doing much of anything. I used to thrive on working and accomplishing things, but now I can hardly get myself to do anything. It’s almost like I am depressed, but without the fluctuations in my mood or negative thoughts. I often become what I like to call “neutralized.” I feel like I am stuck in neutral because I don’t feel like doing anything, not even lying down to go to sleep. It’s like I am wide awake but unable to shift myself into the direction of an interest or passion. I also have this feeling of being isolated from the rest of the world and spaced out. It’s like I loose sight of what’s happening in the world, don’t care what goes on around me, and could care less about setting goals.

I am not sure what to do anymore except reintroduce wheat and gluten. I am wondering if anyone out there has had this same problem. If you did, how did you resolve it? I am tired of supplements because they all seem to cause pressure in my head that is very, very uncomfortable or increase my inability to shift off tasks (provoke OCD). My body is incredibly sensitive to anything I put in it, especially supplements. However, it does very well tolerating foods, which is why I think I should give wheat and gluten a try again. It’s just that I am afraid to bring these two back into my diet because I fear having to deal with an onslaught of negative thoughts, extreme self consciousness, and amplified anxiety and depression. However, I cannot remain as I am because life appears bleak and unexciting. I am not suicidal, but the thought of “what’s this life for” does cross my mind. If I don’t bring back the wheat and gluten, I will consider reintroducing Luvox to hopefully help boost my mood and ease my shifting of thoughts.

I look forward to your replies.

Kind regards,

live2Bfree28
Care Berry,

Thanks for sharing all the info! I will have to give Dr. Shealy's magnesium lotion a try. You asked whether I had been tested for food allergens. Yes, I have. Back on 06/20/09 I had a high level test conducted They tested for Immunoglobulin E and G. Both tests resulted in normal levels; however, this was three months into my elimination diet. By that point in time, any foods causing allergies had been absent from body long enough that the level of antibodies were probably so low that any test conducted would not have detected them. It would be better if I was tested now since I have intro'd everything except for dairy, wheat, and gluten (update on wheat and gluten to follow). I am planning to eventually shell out the money for a particular allergy test called the Immuno 1 Bloodprint by Immuno Laboratories. This tests 115 foods using 91 antigen units.

I will definitely try soaking my grains. That is the first time I have heard of doing that. I would think that by cooking them in hot water, the same thing would be accomplished, but at an accelerated pace.

I know I just mentioned on Thursday, 10/15/09, that I had not tried wheat or gluten in a very long time (since 05/17/09), but things have changed. I did a lot of thinking as to whether I would try sampling the wheat/gluten or reintroduce my Luvox to boost my mood and lessen my rigidity (trouble shifting thoughts and multitasking). I have been able to deal with the rigidity, but my dampened mood and lethargy have been really taxing. So I decided, instead of reintroducing the Luvox, I would try the wheat first. It's much easier to withdraw from a natural food than it is from a medicine. When I withdrew from my Luvox back in May, it was not easy. I was so rigid that I often felt like I was paralyzed both mentally and physically. It was so hard to shift off things.

Anyways, I tried a whole wheat bagel Friday night, a piece of wedding cake Saturday night, and a small bowl of Post Grape Nuts cereal tonight. Here is what physically happened since I intro’d the wheat. On Friday night I started to develop a sore throat about three hours after I consumed the wheat. Now, I am not sure if this was just a coincidence and I happened to be coming down with something, or what. On Saturday, my soar throat broke out into an outrage. By Saturday night I was hardly able to swallow. Also, on Saturday night, I developed a severe headache and aches and pains all over my body. I felt like I had the flu. Before I went to bed that night, I had horrible chills throughout my body. When Sunday came around, especially late afternoon, my soar throat and head ache had started to subside, but I still had the ache and pains and fatigue (felt like I was hit by a truck). Today, Monday, I have no aches and pains or headache and my soar throat has almost passed. What’s interesting is, this is almost the same experience I had when I intro’d corn into my diet back on 06/12 and 06/13. I get hit with aggressive flu-like symptoms that only last for about 24 to 36 hrs. I STRONGLY believe that when you refrain from eating a certain food for long enough and into it again, it shocks the heck out of your body.

Now on to the mental part. Since I have intro’d the wheat, I have noticed a moderate increase in motivation. Something has lit up in my brain over the last three days. I feel like I am zoned out less and more in tune with the world. My energy levels were up today, as I was able to come home tonight and clean my house. The best part of it was I was able to actually experience a certain degree of satisfaction and well being. I have not felt this way since back in May of this year. Over the weekend, I noticed myself singing to myself, cracking more jokes, and having more emotions. This is all so weird to me because I have not been like this for months. I think I may be on to something here, but I need more time to evaluate it.

So I mentioned all the good things, but you are probably wondering how my anxiety is, right? Well, I can tell you that only after three days of eating wheat, my anxiety has increased just a tiny bit. I socially felt more uncomfortable talking to customers on the phone today. I also had more trouble concentrating at work, as I was easily becoming distracted by things and did not want to sit as still as I normally do. I was also experiencing a few negative thoughts today and worrying more, but nothing overwhelming; it was all mild. I really can’t say anymore about the anxiety right now because it’s still too early. I will post more in a few days. Oh yeah, today I was also more irritable than I normally am and more likely to fly off the handle.

That’s enough for tonight. I am headed to bed.

Good night





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