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Hi Hottrrodd and welcome :wave:

My specialty is not the thoracic nor cervical areas of the injury was to the lumbar region of the spine. But what I can tell you is you are not alone. The same pains happen in the lumbar area as the thoracic and cervical (thoracic is your chest area and cervical is your neck area). From your description of the pain you are experiencing sounds awefully like a tear somewhere. But here is an article I found in my library that may be of help to you.

All About Upper Back Pain
Upper back pain is not a very common spinal disorder, but it can cause significant discomfort and pain when it does occur. The most common causes of upper back pain are muscular irritation (myofascial pain) and joint dysfunction.
There can be an injury to a disc in the upper back (such as a herniated disc or degenerated disc), but such injuries are very rare.
It is important to note that the thoracic spine (also called upper back, middle back, or mid-back) is very different in form and function than the cervical spine (neck) or the lumbar spine (lower back). While the neck and lower back are designed to provide us with mobility, the thoracic spine is designed to be very strong and stable to allow us to stand upright and to protect the vital internal organs in the chest. Because this section of the spinal column has a great deal of stability and only limited movement, there is generally little risk of injury or degeneration over time.

Anatomy of the thoracic spine
The word “thoracic” means pertaining to the chest, and the thoracic spine (also called the upper back or mid-back) is the portion of the spinal column that corresponds to the chest area (Figure 1).
· Twelve vertebrae in the middle of the spine with ribs attached make up the thoracic spine. When viewed from the side, this section of the spine is slightly concave.
· Each vertebra in the thoracic spine is connected to a rib on both sides at every level and these in turn meet in the front and attach to the sternum (the breastbone). This creates a cage (the thoracic cage) that provides structural protection for the vital organs of the heart, lungs and liver, and also creates a cavity for the lungs to expand and contract.
· The upper nine ribs start at the spine, curve around and are joined at the front of the chest. Because the ribs are firmly attached at the back (the spine) and the front (the sternum), they allow for very limited motion in the spine.
· The lower three ribs do not join together at the front, but do function to protect the vital organs while allowing for slightly more motion.
· The joints between the bottom thoracic vertebra (T12) and the top lumber vertebra (L1 in the lower back) allow twisting movement from side to side.
Because there is little motion and a great deal of stability throughout the thoracic spine, this section of the spine does not tend to develop common spinal disorders, such as a herniated disc, spinal stenosis, degenerative disc disease, or spinal instability. These conditions are exceedingly rare in the upper back.

Because of this stability and lack of motion, in most cases anatomic causes of upper back pain cannot be found, and an MRI scan or CT scan will rarely image an anatomic problem that is amenable to any sort of surgical solution.


I do believe you should get an MRI to find out what exactly, you are dealing with. PT should be VERY different from your chiro. My chiro is my primary care doctor for my injury and I also had a PT. PT gave me exercises to strengthen and tone my muscles surrounding the surgery area as well as exercises to strengthen my upper body to help me re-learn how to lift and carry things correctly (spine-wise). They gave me water therapy and only at the end of my sessions did the treatments become alike. The stim machine (and PT iced my back too....where my chiro didn't). That was the only similarity between the two therapies (the stim machine).

There are lots of thoracic & cervical spineys (that's what we call ourselves with chronic back pain--spineys) hehe. Anyway...there will be someone along shortly that can help you out better than I. I just wanted to welcome you to the boards and let you know that you ARE NOT ALONE! We all understand your pain and know that you are not 'whining' worries. Be strong and take care.

Oct 2000: Repetitive Stress Injury-Inverted Hernia
Feb 2001: MRI. Shows only slight bulge at L4-L5
Dec 2001: Discogram/CT scan shows Inverted Hernia at L5-S1. L4-L5 & L5-S1 ruptured in all 4 quadrants. Unable to walk.
Feb 2002: IDET, Nucleoplasty, Intra-Discal Injections
Sept 2002: Rated in the top 10% for successful patients. Retraining for new career.

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