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Oh my gosh, I have been on the other board and just poped in to take a look on the back board (been on spinal column board) I do indeed have some of those same symptoms, and more. Also been rushed to ER for cardiac work up, nothing, currently seeing neuro surgeon for first time tomorrow, after many doc's. My new doc believes may very well be herniated disc, really bad pain, started in left upper chest, shoulder, neck and back area, and low & behold moved in hip and pain in left leg, just recently both legs and really radiating down back. Can hardly move my arm shoulder at times and lost alot of range of motion in left shoulder. Pain is so bad no much of any thing is working. Hard time even walking last couple mornings, could not believe it, doc got me into neuro surgeon almost over night, thank god, he believes it is something that cannot wait anymore. I am praying they find out for sure, but yes the pain had moved and has me alittle baffled, pins and needles at times in hand and one foot, really bad pain and swelling under breast in ribs. Been going on long time and came back this may and never left, worse every day, honest, I know I hurt it a couple years ago between moving and lifting at work, should have got it looked at right away and did not, all kinds of weird symptoms popped and had me stumped for along time, mimicking other health problems. Anyone else out there with anything like this, your replys would be a blessing. Thanks Sammy
[QUOTE=CHKUEHN1;3145840]Hello everyone!
I just had to respond to this topic because this is the first place I have found someone who is experiencing the exact same upper back problems. (I have been looking for more than 3 yrs for an explanation for my symptoms)
I have had 3 MRI's of my C & T spines and of course it does depend on the Radiologist interpreting the report. I am a Radiologic Technologist so that is not news to me.
My first MRI (2004) showed a focal left paracentral HNP at T7 which was touching the cord; and mild disc bulging at C5-6 & C6-7.
My second MRI (2005) showed left sided disc protrusion & osteophyte spurring at T7-8 with effacement of the left anterior aspect of the thecal sac. C5-6 central protruding disc w/ mild effacement of the thecal sac. C6-7 protruding disc w/ mild effacement of the thecal sac & mild stenosis.
My most recent MRI was in June of this yr. The HNP at T6-7 unchanged. Small anterior osteophyte formation at multiple levels of T spine. C5-6 mild to moderate posterior central disc protrusion w/ mild stenosis. The disc protrusion may contact the anterior aspect of the spinal floor.
Before my first MRI, I was sent to a cardiologist and had a full cardiac work-up because of my symptoms. Some of my tests were slightly abnormal so he suggested a heart cath. I declined because I really didnt believe it was heart related. I spoke to one of my Radiologists who recommended that I have an MRI. (which I did) Then I went to an orthopedic Dr who recommended that I have an epidural and also gave me a rx for Neurontin at bedtime to see if it would help with the burning, tingling & numbness I was feeling beneath my left breast. I decided against the epidural at that time. I have been on Neurontin for about 2 yrs now and cannot say that it has helped me at all. Last wk I went to a pain management Dr (who I know personally) and he did a Thoracic epidural. He also suggested that I stop the Neurontin and try Lyrica. I started the Lyrica 1 wk ago and started weaning myself off of the Neurontin but I cannot tell that the epidural helped at all. I went back to him yesterday and he said I had terrible muscle spasms all the way down the left side of my back. He didnt think I should do another epidural. He did about 20 trigger point injections. He said if I havent noticed any difference with the Lyrica yet that its probably not going to help so I am going to stop taking both and see what happens. (I have swelling & wt gain with both) He gave me Norflex (muscle relaxer) and Lidoderm patches to try. He also noted that I have mild scholiosis and thought maybe a chiropractor could help alittle. He recommended that I have deep tissue massage therapy and try to be aware of my posture. I do notice that I tend to slump my shoulders forward and thats when I will have the most symptoms. I hope & pray that somehow I can find some relief. Maybe the muscle spasms are compressing & inflaming the nerves which are giving me the symptoms in my chest and rib area. The epidural gave me some terrible hot flashes that still havent quite gone away. I also had some unexplainable low blood sugar issues for a few days after the epidural. I knew the steroid can cause blood sugar to be elevated in diabetics but never heard of it causing it to drop.
The Dr that I work for has been giving me vicoprofen to take as needed when I just cant stand it anymore. When I take it, thats about the only time I feel alittle relief.
Anyway, it really is helpful to know that Im not alone with these crazy symptoms. Hopefully, one of us will be able find the answer for us all. :) (sorry so long)[/QUOTE]

CHUEHN1,(wrote earlier must not have gone through) OMG, sure sounds alot like my symptoms, dont know if you seen the MRI results I posted at one time,so here is a brief decscription:Osteopenic changes noted in thoracic spine. C5-6Mild broad based posterior disc protrusion without compromising exiting nerve roots, C6-7 Mild hypertrophic changes & minimal disc bulge.Degenerative disc disease and spondylosis also noted in the cervical spine. Do you know if MRI reports specify how for down or what part of spine included in test? This only mentions the T1&2, also it states Axial images obtained from the levels of C3-4, down through C7-T1. So was any images done of C1 & 2, really confused never even thought about it until I read your message. yours seems to show more than mine, although my sister was in pain for 4yrs. had MRI in beginning of problem showed nothing major,much later (years when her problem appeared on another MRI), big problems to, go figure. I am disgusted, going for EMG monday,although Neuro says not expecting anything to show, bone scan of shoulder area tommorrow. Looking into shoulder, which does not explain other symptoms, My chest area,rib(under breast) arm and shoulder,upper back really hurt, can go up neck all the way to hip,all left side. Mostly upper Left torso, numbness & tingling in hand,fingers, sometimes left foot (burning feeling, or hot spots) ,left leg can feel heavy & so forth, pain really starting to radiate in upper to mid back. No bra since May. Went through whole cardiac work up, including heart cath(when it started (approx:21/2 years ago) & again last week. When I moved in my new house,I know for a fact I hurt myself moving in and continued to get bad through work,I am a home healthcare aide,used to do some major lifting & I am not big. Been to so many docs. so many opinions right down to being told to get psych, help, of course now that it is out of control new Docs office paying aliitle attention, I am not really blaming them I just feel they need to listen alittle better. PT pointed out most of problems, totally swelled in neck, shoulder, major & minor Pec. Area & under ribs. Can't tell you how many docs. thought at first it was shingles., interesting thing when ever sugar tested lately in office or ER it was up, said it could be from pain, you ever have yours checked before all this, even though I was on steriod pack, mine was off before that. I will tell you just discovered while I was on steroids still in pain, went in got and extra injection of steroids in hip, along with script for low dose of oxycodone, felt better for couple days, soon as steroid finished (same day) muscle spasms like crazy and pain, has to be the inflammation, doc. just started me on lyrica couple days ago, I also tried the lid.patch,did nothin. Pain really radiating in upper and mid back lately. Off work for now & really worried about my job. First visit with Neuro, seen him all of 2 minutes, never even asked hardly any questions, not even for PT report, not real encougaed there, plan on trying to corner him next appointment. did not even want notes my doc. told me to make (of symptoms & take to him). by the way my cardiac test were slightly abnormal to, mentioned once again maybe pain, be careful it is not your heart, all these meds. & Pain can't possably be good for it, stress to. I am praying for results to. Cannot bare it much longer ruining my life. PT was only one who said with those symptoms has to something Neuro., he sent me back to doc, because could not control swelling & pain, can barely lift my arm most mornings because of shoulder hurts so much, pulls chest area and it is off and running, heart starts racing if not controlled and send my vitals rith off chart. Any of this sound familair to you? PLEASE write back, maybe we can compare & see what happens. Sammy
Went to the Chiropractor. He said I have functional Short leg syndrome which has caused me to have scoliosis the full length of my spine. There are about 5 locations where it is compensating for the differences in the leg length and my pelvis is rotated. Put a lift in my shoe with 2 adjustments yesterday. Went back this morning for 2 more adjustments and Electronic muscle stimulation. I had some pretty bad muscle spasms yesterday afternoon. He gave me some samples of Biofreeze. That helped alittle. Going back again tomorrow morning.

Has anyone else tried a Chiropractor?

Thanks chablis! :)
CHK, I Went to Chiro. back in Nov-Jan, this particular chiro. was so close to what he found in the x-rays(believe or not) & exam,he pretty much told much of what the MRI showed, pretty impessive. I have of leg shorter then the other also, he said that is not uncommon, yours sounds alittle more serious, I did get some relief but had to go all the time & paid out of pocket, condition worsened & got to the point I was afraid to let anyone do much until I know the exact problem, but this chiro(whose whole family does this) pointed out alot of my problems starting with the axis ( I believe its called) being really tilted. My spine is not straight like other peoples. I hope you get relief ,some people swear by them, I may return to Chiro. at some point. Sammy
Hello Everyone! Just dropping in to see how everyone is doing, and so sorry to hear that we all seem to still be in the same boat; with our pain and our frustration! My back, neck, side, are still giving me the same problems and pain. I finally have my rheumotoligst appointment on Friday (after waiting a month and a half to get in). He probably won't have much to say, but I want to check with him to rule out any fibermyalgia. Then, next week I go to the new back doctor; the one that went on vacation for two weeks after my first visit with him. But, I have to tell you all about my vacation last week! Went to Wildwood, N.J. for a week, and wasn't feeling real well when we left. I ended up in the emergency room with a bladder infection, our little dog got sick and we had to take him to a vet, and my sister's cap fell off of her front tooth! What a vacation! I have been having re-occuring bladder infections for some strange reason; been going on for over a month now.

I was given meds to take at the ER, came home, and then was having problems with the meds they gave me...ended up with my right leg swelling. Went to see my new family doctor (whom I like), and am now on different meds! Now he wants me to go see a uroligist! I feel like I am making a career out of going to doctors...and I know you all feel like that, also.

So, that's what has been happening with me, and I did read through all your posts to catch up with everyone. It is upsetting to hear that nobody has found any good results as of yet. I think I might try that natural remedy that John mentioned in his post. Sounds interesting.

My best to everyone, and take care; my thoughts are with you all!

Hi Sammy and Chk and all! Went to the rheumotoligist today and was told the good news is I don't have fibermyalgia, but after reviewing the MRI of my back, he said I do have "very messed up disc's", and arthritus in my back. He said the leg cramps and bad pain and burning I am getting uncer the ribs and my side can also be from the disc's. I kind of suspected he would say that, but was glad to hear I didn't have fibermylagia. So, his advice was to definitely keep my up coming appointment with the back doctor week after next. This bit of information, after about 45 minutes in his office, cost $245.00! I sure hope my insurance pays some of it!! Just thought I would let you all know my experience today!

Baybreeze, thanks for your input on my bladder problem. I also was wondering about the connection between the back problems and the bladder infection. I went to the ER here at home last month with a 2nd flare-up, and at that time all my tests came back clear....and I was having bad pain in my back and side then, which made me wonder if one had to do with the other. I have had people say that stress can also cause bladder infections, and boy, the pain we have with our problems certainly brings lots of stress! At least your gyno said "it could be", while mine said she did't think there was a connection. I will keep my appointment with the uroligist next week just to see what he might say. Let me know how your tests turn out!

Sammi and Chk...I think it is a very good idea to take the Zanex or Valium when you get anxious. I know I wake up in the middle of the night sweating, and heart jumping around, and sometimes dizziness, and I am certain all that is anxiety. Not only from all the pain, but from the stress all of us are having trying to deal with it and the frustration. I even talk to myself and tell myself to take deep breaths and calm down!

MKA...I hope you can find something out soon as to what is going on with you, and maybe some of your findings will help us! It must be so hard for you being an athelete and not being able to persue that just now. But, keep up the good work of seeking an answer, and hopefully some day soon you'll be back to your strong, physical self. Good luck to you.

Take care everyone!
CHK, I am so glad to hear you got some relief from the treatments at the chiopractors. Maybe a few more will have you feeling much better. I wish you luck and hope they work for you.

Sammi, I feel so bad for you. I just can't imagine why you are having all that swelling in the rib and chest area. I am glad you did turn around and go back to your sister-in-laws; being in that much pain and with your heart racing....that is very scary. Maybe you should have gone to the ER like CHK suggested; they probably would have done a CAT scan right then and there. Good thing you did go ahead and schedule one, though; maybe that will show something. I can imagine how your struggling to keep you job. You have a lot of pressure on you with the job and trying to find out what is causing your pain.

My latest is: Went to the rehab doctor and he reviewed my MRI. He did show me the film, and I do have a herniated disc in the lower back and also a couple of degenerating discs. The one is really bulging out. He suggested the epidural shots, and then today I went to see the doctor that gives them. So, Monday I am scheduled for the first one, then another one the following Monday. I have had these type of shots before, but only in my neck area and middle back. I asked the doc that gives the shots (a woman) about my leg pain and she said she isn't sure if that pain as well as the pain in my side under breast is from the herniated disc or not! She said the only way to tell is to have the shot and see what kind of relief I get. At least she was honest. So, here we go again and I feel like trust in doctors is going down hill fast!

Take care and my best. I wish you both well.


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