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Hi Missy,

Thanks for the reply...thanks for the info as well. I have done quite a bit of research on the internet about the cause and cure for the triglyceride issue. I opted to try a vitamin regimin instead of the tricor. I am going to do this for 3 months and then go back to get my blood work done (this May) again to see if it works. My daily regimin includes 9 omega 3's (9,000 mg), 4 garlic tabs, 3 panthenetic acid, 3 no flush niacin, 1 multi vitamin, 1 vitamin e, 2 guglipid herb tabs, 1 chromium, 1 1/2 calcium tabs. I split them up 3 times a day. I have had no problems the first month of taking them. If you freeze the omega 3's it does not give you fish burps, either.

I have cut out cafeine, wine (have had a couple of glasses over the past month), and joined the gym (work out 4 times a week) and am drinking quite a bit of green tea. So, with all of this change in lifestyle, I am hoping to accomplish my goal of lowering my triglycerides, and cholesteral without organ damaging drugs. If the vitamins don't work, well then, I will have to look at the other alternative of the drugs. I will post again to let everyone know how my blood work comes up in May!

Dear Namlessone,

Thanks for the input...trying to manage my health is more complicated than I thought! My opposition to doctors goes back to childhood (dad was ill since I was very young with polycystic kidney disease), which is alot of my reasoning to not take drugs that may compromise kidneys and liver.

Interesting what you suggested with the inositol hexaniacinate and liver function (I have been taking 1500mg a day for a little over a month now). And the Guggel...I am not taking any other medications, so I wonder if they are ok for me. The Omega 3's I am taking does amt. to 3 grams a day of actual Omega 3 (not 9). The doses I am taking a day are:

Omega 3 - 3 gr
vitamin E - 150 IU (d-alpha tocopheryl acetate)
kyolic garlic - 900 mg
pantethine - 900 mg
no flush inositol hexaniacinate - 1500 mg
calcium citrinate - 1500 mg
chromium picolinate - 200 mcg
guggul - 75 mg

My idea was to try this for 3 months, go back for blood work to see if it has helped. I am definitley looking for another doctor, as I don't like the one I have. I am the type of person that will go to a doctor only if I really have to. What started my awareness of a problem was that I had numbness and tingling in my left arm and fingers, and also sometimes in my left leg for about 2 months. The initial fear was heartattack or a stroke, so I went in to the doctor's for stress tests, echo cardio and vascular ultra sound. My heart was ok, but that's how I found out about my high trigs and cholesterol. It seems like since I started this vitamin regimin, the numbness and tingling has subsided, so that makes me think I am on the right track?

Another reason to avoid statins, is that since my family has a history of kidney disease (grandmother, father, uncle, cousin on dad's side, and my brother), and the fact that my Glom filtration rate is >59 (kidney filtration looks to me like it is on the cusp of problematic), and my glucose serum is 103 H. (Grandmother developed diabetes in her 50's - on mom's side, and I had gestational diabetes when pregnant..I am also 52 now). I did have the C-Reactive Protein, Cardiac test- which was 1.51 mg/L indicating average cardiovascular event in the future. All these tests were done before the vitamins, on 1/29/09.

I am thinking maybe I should make an appointment with a new doctor now, and get more blood work. I certainly don't want to cause more harm than good to myself. I had heard about the red rice yeast - the doctor that a friend suggested had prescribed that to her. So, I know that this potentially new doctor is receptive to a more homeopathic approach to health issues.

Again, I appreciate everyone's help and input. It's such ashame our bodies go south around 50...I have always been so healthy...or so I thought!

I agree with tjlhb's comments.

Your glucose does look to be on the high side there. Ask your doctor for a glycated hemoglobin test (Ha1c), if you haven't had one yet. It will show your glucose control for the past 2-3 months or so. It can come in handy as an indirect way to roughly measure carb intake too.

If this was me, I'd severely restrict wheat products, desserts, and anything with a high glycemic load. And I know many people consider wheat healthy, or it's a 'healthy grain', but it really isn't. It is healthier to eat wheat bread or wheat pasta over refined bread/pasta, but it still isn't healthy.

Of you supplements, no flush inositol hexaniacinate is a waste for lipid control. It won't do anything there.

Look for a mixed vitamin E supplement instead of 150 IU of alpha only. When vitamin E is alpha only it suppresses gamma, which isn't so good.

Pantethine might help a little. Not a ton of studies on it, but there is some evidence it could help trigs.

Guggul should help, but I haven't researched that one very much due to the fact I can't take it anyway due to drug interactions. I do recommend you do your own research for this one and ask a doctor about it.

The aged garlic isn't a bad idea. It probably won't help lipids much, but so long as your stomach can tolerate it, it probably has other health benefits. There are a ton of studies for aged garlic and various health concerns too.

Three grams of Omega 3s is a good amount to try for people with elevated trigs. Split the doses up during the day, don't take it all at once. You may wish to look for higher potency gels though, just to reduce the number of pills you have to take. You are taking 300mg Omega 3/gel -- you can find 600mg/gel pretty easy and some go higher than that. Or you could go with a liquid, like Carlson's.

As for symptoms of numbness and tingling, there could be various issues there not related to heart health. You could see a neurologist, or perhaps it is pre-diabetes causing symptoms. If you see your cardiologist again, perhaps ask him for a calcium scoring, which will show if you have any plaque in your arteries. Avoid a full cardiac CT scan as a preventative test, which is sometimes mistakenly assumed the same as calcium scoring. Calcium scoring should be equivalent to 4-8 x-rays. A CT scan is way more radiation and does hold some long-term risks.

Oh, and make sure to get your liver enzymes tested during your next bloodwork. I don't think the things you currently are taking will affect your liver too much (besides maybe Guggul), but better safe than sorry. Best of luck there and hopefully the diet/exercise changes will work.

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