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[QUOTE=OraEtLabora]peregrine,
What CFID's symptoms do you still suffer from? And, what dose of Armour are you on? Have you tried adding T4 to the Armour? (Some people do that because they find their Free T4 is low in comparison to their Free T3, even with Armour, so they supplement more T4, and it seems to help them).
What were your thyroid symptoms that have resolved with Armour? [/QUOTE]


[COLOR=Blue]My TSH levels are within range, I'm not cold all the time (I used to be, even in Summer!), no more dry skin and hair or hoarseness, or difficulty swallowing (from the goiter), etc. I take 90 mg. of Armour a day. I have had my Free T-4 checked (actually, recently) and it is fine.

Re. CFIDS symptoms, first of all, the onset is very different from many other illnesses, which is outlined at any of the CFIDS web sites. Although the severity and frequency of my "flares" has decreased throughout the years, the virus (if, indeed, that is what it is), is still alive and well in my system and I can tell the minute it rears up. Unlike a Thyroid disorder, CFIDS "flares" are often accompanied by a distinct fluey feeling. Also, CFIDS can affect any body system leading to mouth ulcers, cognitive and other central nervous system breakdown, of course, [I]profound[/I] fatigue, joint pain, GI problems, etc.............. Additionally, I believe the "triggers" for CFIDS further separates it from Thyroid disorders, such as exercise intolerance, alcohol, certain odors, sensitivity to many meds., etc.. ...

I suppose one could still argue that there is no difference between the two, but having had both for a good many years now, I can tell the difference in my body between, for instance, the feeling of tiredness that accompanies Thyroid problems and the utter depletion that is typical of CFIDS flares - for the first 9 months of the illness one could find me in one of two places, in bed or lying down on the couch and going from one to the other was an [I]extreme [/I]effort. I was so constantly and extremely ill that I actually got my will in order, and I know others with the illness who report this as well. However, 12 years ago not much was known about CFIDS, so the myriad of docs I was sent to hadn't a clue as to what I had. Nowadays, we have (a bit) more information and we also know people don't die from it.

I am not in any way trying to minimize Thyroid symptoms as compared to CFIDS, afterall, I do have the disorder myself, I just do not think they are one in the same.
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Thanks, Peregrine, for your reply. I'll have to read more on CFIDS - I was dx with it over 16 years ago, and what little reading I did back then depressed me so much, since there was no treatment or agreement as to cause, that I just quit.

I have had resolution of my sensitivity to meds, odors and exercise intolerance just from taking thyroid hormone. I always thought those things were due to the fact that my metabolism was so messed up from the thyroid not functioning. Speeding up my metabolic rate has resolved some of that. I haven't had any alcohol to drink, so I can't tell if that is better, but even my son noticed just yesterday that a certain perfume I used to get sick over before, I now thought smelled "good." I should mention, though, that I am on a higher dose of Armour (180mg/day, which I take sublingually, 90mg AM, 45 at noon, and 45 at bedtime). Also, it was determined that I have adrenal fatigue, so I take 5mg natural cortisol in the AM, and 5mg in PM. I also take bio-identical Estradiol and Progesterone, and notice a real difference in my energy levels when my Est/Progest ratio is off.

Everyone is different in how things affect them. I have known that extreme fatigue - where I couldn't even get dressed because it was too exhausting to lift my arms over my head to put on a shirt! I recently just went through that again, with severe depression, sore throat, and found out that my Est/Progest ratio was way off (way too much Progesterone) - as soon as I adjusted my dose, I felt great - within 8 hours. I guess maybe I'm just looking for more simple, natural answers and explanations. My profession before getting sick was a senior Virologist at a large hospital, then at at biotech firm studying rapid identification of HSV, CMV, EBV. I had no exposure to these viruses prior to my entering the field, because I had to have baseline titres done, and they were done twice to confirm the negative result (it's rare for an adult not to have at least had exposure). My titres rose dramatically while I was working (I'm currently disabled), so there's no doubt I was exposed to those viruses while working with them. Then I got sick, so it was natural to assume it was from the viruses I worked with. But now, I believe that it was really my low thyroid that made me more susceptible to the effects of those viruses. Otherwise, why would they disable me, and not my colleagues?

That is the question I keep asking myself.
[QUOTE=OraEtLabora]

I have had resolution of my sensitivity to meds, odors and exercise intolerance just from taking thyroid hormone. I always thought those things were due to the fact that my metabolism was so messed up from the thyroid not functioning. Speeding up my metabolic rate has resolved some of that. I haven't had any alcohol to drink, so I can't tell if that is better, but even my son noticed just yesterday that a certain perfume I used to get sick over before, I now thought smelled "good." I should mention, though, that I am on a higher dose of Armour (180mg/day, which I take sublingually, 90mg AM, 45 at noon, and 45 at bedtime). Also, it was determined that I have adrenal fatigue, so I take 5mg natural cortisol in the AM, and 5mg in PM. I also take bio-identical Estradiol and Progesterone, and notice a real difference in my energy levels when my Est/Progest ratio is off. [/QUOTE]

I had to work up to the 90 mg (also sublilngual) Armour because it made me so jittery and nervous. I can't imagine tolerating the high dosage you take. Did you increase gradually? I'm also interested in the Cortisol and bio-identical Estradiol and Progesterone you say you take. Were these prescribed by an allopathic doc or are they available at a HFS. I do use natural progesterone cream but would like to hear more what you have to say about these things.

Thanks,

P.





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