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Aside from thinking legumes are somehow "unnatural" food for us, I guess I don't understand why you wouldn't dream of eating them. They're full of protein, calcium, iron, and fiber and have healthy fat. I find them very easily digestible and would think most people would except perhaps for someone with diverticulitis or something similar going on. Are there some adverse effects that you know of or according to the paleolithic diet? Is there a logical reason we don't know for avoiding them? It just seems like we must have evolved to be able to eat them and other legumes considering how heart healthy they are and the other benefits they provide.
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[QUOTE=llamamuffinmama]Aside from thinking legumes are somehow "unnatural" food for us, I guess I don't understand why you wouldn't dream of eating them. They're full of protein, calcium, iron, and fiber and have healthy fat. I find them very easily digestible and would think most people would except perhaps for someone with diverticulitis or something similar going on. Are there some adverse effects that you know of or according to the paleolithic diet? Is there a logical reason we don't know for avoiding them? It just seems like we must have evolved to be able to eat them and other legumes considering how heart healthy they are and the other benefits they provide.
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Legumes are well known to cause digestive problems unless properly prepared and even then there are the distress of gas and a growling belly. The phytates in legumes can cause poor absorbtion of minerals. Protease inhibitors can damage the pancreas, haemagglutins can produce various problems and Lathyrogens in Chickpeas can be responsible for Spastic paralysis of the legs, skeletal abnormalities. This (legumes) is not a food we were designed by evolution to eat and so I avoid all legumes. I know of no study that concludes that legumes are "heart healthy" if you do I would like to read it. I am not sure what other benifits they provide but perhaps you could educate me?
[QUOTE=Jessicca]I meant, that I do believe that beans, rice, and high quality whole grains(non processed) are an important part of our diet. And yah, you have to cook the beans, corn and rice.LOL

And I also just explained in my last two posts in this particular thread, the one about modern agriculture, and the one about the mediterranean diet(WHICH DOES include rice, beans, whole grains etc and the one's who follow it maintains excellent health). And it seems like your theory about this "paleo" diet is the only way to eat, and I dont' think it's for everybody. :) I'm sure there are many people who actually DO benefit from this diet though. But like I said, ONE diet doesn't work for everybody. We all have different metabolic types etc, and advocating the paleo diet, could make some really sick. I know people who ate low carb that were constipated all the time, low of energy, and their cholesterol was high. The paleo diet is old, and that was before man discovered other healthy foods to eat, some are good to eat and some aren't. :) This white flour junk and processed wheat, and greasy foods and chemicals is where "man" messed up!!lol Just because the "paleo" diet was the first foods we ate when we first evolved doesn't mean anything. Like I said, modern agriculture(not to mention many other things) has vastly improved over MANY years.

In Japan and China, they eat lots of beans and rice and their known for good health.[/QUOTE]

Evolution is a selection process and if it's natural that you're looking for, a paleo diet is THE only one humans have been selected to eat. While a paleo diet can be widely varied as to % of plant to animal food or vice versa the basic components didn't include the modern foods you seem to think are healthy. Before humans ate these modern foods they were more robust, had few or no dental caries, did not suffer from obesity, diabetes, heart disease, cancer or other diseases of modern humans. So, the question becomes why do you think these foods are healthy? The Mediterranean diet you think so highly of is just a diet that limits the worst of the modern diet such as prepared foods, artificial fats and additives. A reduction in harm is not optimal and while I also think that such a diet is healthier than SAD it is NOT a diet that promotes optimal health.
[QUOTE=racehorse]Evolution is a selection process and if it's natural that you're looking for, a paleo diet is THE only one humans have been selected to eat. While a paleo diet can be widely varied as to % of plant to animal food or vice versa the basic components didn't include the modern foods you seem to think are healthy. Before humans ate these modern foods they were more robust, had few or no dental caries, did not suffer from obesity, diabetes, heart disease, cancer or other diseases of modern humans. So, the question becomes why do you think these foods are healthy? The Mediterranean diet you think so highly of is just a diet that limits the worst of the modern diet such as prepared foods, artificial fats and additives. A reduction in harm is not optimal and while I also think that such a diet is healthier than SAD it is NOT a diet that promotes optimal health.[/QUOTE]
Well since your a celiac and seem really smart, :) my antigliadin test came up postive but the secretary said that it wasn't so serious. My Igg number was 38 and the normal is 20. Remember, I had a blood test to see if i had a "gluten intolorance." I may have to eat like this "paleo" diet after all. But I love rice, so I don't think I have to give up that. I can't have any breads or anything so, it looks like this will be my diet, LOL. Is 38 high??
thanks I'm shocked!!! :eek:





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