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Re: Diet Sodas
Jan 11, 2006
[QUOTE=pipermac]But with Diet Soda...one may be able to argue that it would be healthier then some other choices. This could be particularily true with a diabetic or for somebody follows a Low carb diet. Diet soda helps to keep blood sugar and insulin levels down. Many would argue that would be a health benefit of diet soda. Then there is the Mental aspect of it. The feeling of satisfaction of drinking a diet soda for one person may be enough to help their mental state. I just dont think you can say that if something is not good for you that it has to be bad for you. Why cant it be neutral?[/QUOTE]

Because neutral implies no impact. If a substance goes into your body, it must have impact. It must cause some biological response. Everything does. Water does, every food does. The chemicals that comprise diet soda cause a biological response. What is it? Do you know? Are you comfortable saying "well I don't know what this is going to do to me, but here it goes?" The key is to determine if the biological response is positive or negative. If your assertion is that the chemicals go in and go out without causing the body to have a response, I think that is unreasonable.

Is it beneficial for diabetics? Maybe so. Now you are talking of the best of two evils. That's not where this discussion started out, but fine, we can entertain it. So if a person is diabetic, and they drink diet soda on a daily basis, what is the long term outcome? Well one strong possibility is that in 20 years they end up with diabetes and some form of cancer due to the daily intake of artificial sweeteners. If they simply decided that they needed to be careful with there food intake, and drank much healthier water and other diabetic safe beverages, they will be less likely to have multiple health problems in the future. Should a diebetic be subjected to such a life? Well, they have diabetes and with that comes some definite drawbacks and limitations in life.

Again, that's a decision they can make. Regardless, it will not change the probability that the beverage they are drinking is not healthy for them.
Re: Diet Sodas
Jan 11, 2006
[QUOTE=fiskj]Because neutral implies no impact. If a substance goes into your body, it must have impact. It must cause some biological response. Everything does. Water does, every food does. The chemicals that comprise diet soda cause a biological response. What is it? Do you know? Are you comfortable saying "well I don't know what this is going to do to me, but here it goes?" The key is to determine if the biological response is positive or negative. If your assertion is that the chemicals go in and go out without causing the body to have a response, I think that is unreasonable.

Is it beneficial for diabetics? Maybe so. Now you are talking of the best of two evils. That's not where this discussion started out, but fine, we can entertain it. So if a person is diabetic, and they drink diet soda on a daily basis, what is the long term outcome? Well one strong possibility is that in 20 years they end up with diabetes and some form of cancer due to the daily intake of artificial sweeteners. If they simply decided that they needed to be careful with there food intake, and drank much healthier water and other diabetic safe beverages, they will be less likely to have multiple health problems in the future. Should a diebetic be subjected to such a life? Well, they have diabetes and with that comes some definite drawbacks and limitations in life.

Again, that's a decision they can make. Regardless, it will not change the probability that the beverage they are drinking is not healthy for them.[/QUOTE]


Well I am not argueing the healthy point..but I am saying that one might argue it. And I think you are wrong about something not being neutral. Neutral does not mean that it doesnt do anything....It means that the Benefits = the risk. The safety of Artificial Sweetners is a whole different ball of wax that has been debated heavily in many other posts already.

Many Things have good qualities about them and Bad qualities about them.

Since the Reletive health risks of diet soda are largely unknown and mainly speculation, One could easily argue that Diet soda is good for you (Or Them...since people react diffferently to different things) The Person Arguieing that healthy part says that it is a beverage that gives them not calories so It promotes a healthy weight (I know there are some that say that diet sodas actually make you gain weight ..but again that is completely debateable....I am not argueing one side or the other here I just showing how one side could be argued adn wouldnt be wrong). The Would also say that Diet soda keeps their Blood Sugar and Insulin levels down, thus Reducing risk of diabetes and promoting a healthy weight, Diet soda also provides some of your daily requirements for water. Then the other side says that there are chemicals in the diet soda which couldnt be good for you, but they cant say how they are bad, they are only assuming that they are bad.

There is not a clear cut arguement either way.

My Personal Thinking? I dont really know...I dont blindly take either side. I realize that It may very well be bad for you, but I also see that there can be some benefits. Do I drink Diet cola? Very little...But I used to drink a lot...at times 4-5 cans a day. Why the Change? Partially because of the potential health risks...but mainly because I am enjoying an alternative that is undoubtedly better....Water!


The whole issue can be debated back and forth and there would probably be no winner as both sides can make very compelling statements. There are very very few things that are Clear cut.

And when it comes to over all health of a person....Can a person only be healthy if the only eat Healthy items and do healthy things?
I would say that to be healthy they probably have to eat mostly healthy things and do mostly healthy things.

The Truth is that is What I do.....I eat as much organic as I can and I use as mainy Natural safe protucts that I can......Not because I am convinced that the alternatives are bad and unhealthy for me...but I recognize that they very well could be. So if there is and alternative that appears to be healthier, safer, and not too much more expensive then I will use the alternative.

I try not to go around and Tell other people to do the same because other things a definately bad for them...but I say that these other things have a much higher chance of being bad for them and that some things we just plain dont know enough about them to know or not.





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