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what is stage 4 of cirrhosis and how serious is it? I have had hep c for over 20 years & it has formed cirrhosis which is now in stage 4. how many stages of cirrhosis are there and how serious is this. I have taken 1 year of treatments of ribovarin/peg-intron and they did not work on me. I see a liver specilist at the liver transplant unit in OKC, but no one seems to be too worried about it. I am concerned about how many stages of cirrhosis there are total. is stage 4 serious. My geno type is type 1. I would appreciate any info on this if you have any input, please answer. thank you
Stage 4 refers to the amount of fibrosis in your liver. The definition of cirrosis is stage 4 fibrosis. I am not familiar with "stages: of cirrosis, but yours must be early for the Dr. to be so unconcerned. Good luck!
I believe this is serious. More importantly, how do you feel? So your treatments didn't work. Have you ever looked into BHT? Do it. I did and that's what I'm doing. I know I've had it for 27 years...just realized that but I don't have cirrhosis. You'd think I was near the end the way I feel. I haven't done any biopsy just a scan and ultrasound. I don't have a lick of insurance (the above was done while in emergency). It's worth looking into as the liver can regenerate itself but I'm sure there would have to be something which could nail the virus itself so it could take a break. I don't know how positive your outlook is either. I've noticed that because this goes after bacteria and viruses, it killed an infection that kept reacurring. Then, I quit dairy for the first time ever a week ago. Now I can sleep through the night with no joint pain due to arthritis (inflamation). If your sick and run down I think we have to cover our bases- otherwise, it will be harder for our immune system to work for us.
My 2 cents.....
As for my outlook, I love life, I love my family, and I love my job, and # 1 I love and trust in the Good Lord Above! I keep feeling like one day, in my lifetime they will find that cure, and it will work for me. As for being concerned, yes, being a stage 4 cirrhosis concerns me, so I try my very best to do everything I possibly can to help my liver, not hurt it. I do not drink, never have, it's not a thing for me. I am a Christian, and a true Christian. And I know this has happened to me for a reason, and one day I will understand. All I want is to be knowledgeble of what is happening to my liver. how many stages are there before it is the end stage, what new things are out there that could be available to me, etc. I think my dr. knows his business, but I also think that sometimes they overlook maybe one little thing, that may have worked for me. So I am just putting questions out there, to help me, help myself. I appreciate you input. I wish you the very best! I keep reffering to "I have fought the good fight", and that is what i intend to do...but when my time has come, I will know I fought the good fight. Best Wishes
I am in esld. They way my dr explained it to me is: Your liver is either compensated or it is decompensated. To know if your liver is decompensated you will have alot of syptoms. Some of those systems can be ascites(fuild in belly) pitted edema, varices with or without bleeding, high ammoina levels, When a liver decompensates it manifest more of these syptoms. When your liver becomes decompensated is when your in esld. I hope this helps.

Vanilla1234
Good luck to you....are you stage four cirrhosis or stage four fibrosis? There is a big diffence. I would just say this...I have a friend on the transplant list for lungs and have had people on it for a liver....it sounds like you are living right...so that is good but unless you have been alchol free among other things they won't even put you on that list. You are a very brave soul...I really envy you. I will say prayers but you sound so brave and at peace.
I have cirrhosis stage 4, with hep/C. I do live right. I am not a drinking person, never have been. Just was lucky enough to contact this disease some 30 years ago, before they tested dontated blood like they to today. But I am blessed with a peace of mind, that all things happen for a reason. Our God is an Awesome God, and on him I will rely! Yes, I believe that he has put people in our paths to help us. That is what my liver doctor is to me. I do believe what he says...I just like to know what others know also. That's why I ask the questions. Don't want to miss anything that could be good for me!
[QUOTE=deejaysteele;3418053]As for my outlook, I love life, I love my family, and I love my job, and # 1 I love and trust in the Good Lord Above! I keep feeling like one day, in my lifetime they will find that cure, and it will work for me. As for being concerned, yes, being a stage 4 cirrhosis concerns me, so I try my very best to do everything I possibly can to help my liver, not hurt it. I do not drink, never have, it's not a thing for me. I am a Christian, and a true Christian. And I know this has happened to me for a reason, and one day I will understand. All I want is to be knowledgeble of what is happening to my liver. how many stages are there before it is the end stage, what new things are out there that could be available to me, etc. I think my dr. knows his business, but I also think that sometimes they overlook maybe one little thing, that may have worked for me. So I am just putting questions out there, to help me, help myself. I appreciate you input. I wish you the very best! I keep reffering to "I have fought the good fight", and that is what i intend to do...but when my time has come, I will know I fought the good fight. Best Wishes[/QUOTE]
Hi DJ Steele
Has your doctor ever mentioned milk thistle which is an herb to help with liver function
My brother who had end stage chirosis from HepC and had been on it and myself for Lyme treatment antibiotics which can cause liver damage but I am doing well with that along with taking b-12 shots IV therapy antibiotics and several supplements
My husband had HepC four years ago and has fully recovered
My brother was not as fortunate but the physicians and medical cummunity at that period of time were not as knowledgable as now on how to treat this disease
My husband was on ribaflavin and interferon for 18 months
Positive thinking is really good for our overall health so it sounds like you have that under control A few prayers never hurt and I will say a few for you in these difficult times
Take care and keep us posted for any your needs and support
Take care
Ryebeach
Thanks for the info. Glad to hear the ribo/peg intron did good for your husband, I know what that's all about, did it for a year myself, but like your brother, was one of the unlucky ones, and it didn't take. but I think it did help slow the process of the cirroh. down, so that was a good thing, but I was sure a sick little girl that year! Those treatments didn't go well with me! they say some can take it, some can't. unlucky there too! haha! I will look into the herbs you suggested. I like to try anything I think will help heal my liver. Yes, a positive outlook is most important. If you give up....that's on you, we arn't built to give up I don't think, not us baby boomers anyway! haha Thanks for your info and input! Good luck to you and your family! We say a prayer for you too!
[QUOTE=deejaysteele;3496720]Thanks for the info. Glad to hear the ribo/peg intron did good for your husband, I know what that's all about, did it for a year myself, but like your brother, was one of the unlucky ones, and it didn't take. but I think it did help slow the process of the cirroh. down, so that was a good thing, but I was sure a sick little girl that year! Those treatments didn't go well with me! they say some can take it, some can't. unlucky there too! haha! I will look into the herbs you suggested. I like to try anything I think will help heal my liver. Yes, a positive outlook is most important. If you give up....that's on you, we arn't built to give up I don't think, not us baby boomers anyway! haha Thanks for your info and input! Good luck to you and your family! We say a prayer for you too![/QUOTE]

Hi steele
I wil do the same for your family as well
Keep us posted
Take care
Ryebeach
Hi, I was diagnosed with end stage Hep C in mid 2006. Too sick to do the combo and on my way to see the Lord. Through the diligence and love of family, friends and doctors I hung on long enough to get a liver transplant. That miracle occurred in 12/06. Still had Hep C and started the treatment in 3/07. The combo treatment was not nice to me, I was determined to stay the course but my Dr. said I had to stop because the treatment was worse than the illness at that time. Still have Hep C and it has become active again with a vengance but something will come along, I keep a positive attitude and spend alot of time with my grandkids. They make me feel good and keep my outlook bright. I will keep you in my prayers.
[QUOTE=deejaysteele;3493295]I have cirrhosis stage 4, with hep/C. I do live right. I am not a drinking person, never have been. Just was lucky enough to contact this disease some 30 years ago, before they tested dontated blood like they to today. But I am blessed with a peace of mind, that all things happen for a reason. Our God is an Awesome God, and on him I will rely! Yes, I believe that he has put people in our paths to help us. That is what my liver doctor is to me. I do believe what he says...I just like to know what others know also. That's why I ask the questions. Don't want to miss anything that could be good for me![/QUOTE]
Hi deejaysteele;3493295
I hope today finds you feeling good
I was checking a couple of posts and thought I would check in with you
Are you a candidate for a transplant at all . I have a friend and she has a daughter inlaw that did recieve one quickly in Jacksonville florida . She had to go stay for a couple of weeks to get evaluated then return to wait until one became available . It took only a few more weeks to recieve one . I guess this was the quickest place to recieve one . She was originally from michigan and went to Jacksonville from there
It might be an option
Take care and blessings to you and your family
Hi there- Saw your post @ cirrhosis - I just joined.- But- I've had Hep C for a long time maybe 30 some years. Went through the mono therapy with Interferon back in '92-93, Participated in the clinical trials for combo therapy (ribavirin/interferon) 48 wks in '96-97?. No more for me thank you. Just got a liver biopsy and also have Stage 4 cirr/ Hep stage 3. My Primary Dr. verified. Did you have a look at your labs? There are a couple things that can help you w/stage and conditions. You Are Not Alone- there's quite a few of us!





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