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When I went to a rolling cane from the walker, was when I began to have back pain. It was on the side where I leaned on the cane, so I wondered if the pressure was doing it. When I was getting around the house without any aid, the back pain eased up. I did find that a heating pad, when I was sitting, helped the back --- also a good smear of Tiger Balm at night.

I also got shoulder pain when I used a low chair or the regular toilet -- not the raised one. Getting up from that low position put a lot of pressure on both shoulders.

Oh -- about toilets. (sorry for the topic!) We were away for a day, and at the rest areas, I used the handicap toilets as they had bars to help getting up and down. But at the hotel, where we stayed, there was really nothing to grab onto to help get up. I didn't want to put pressure on the toilet paper fixture. It was difficult, and last night my shoulders were really painful.
My TKR was Nov. 17the (4 weeks). I'm still in awful pain but I'm going PT 3 times a week (many times I'm in tears where a nerve is hit but the therapist says this is normal and I just have to slowly stretch the soft tissue). I also do exercises at home 3 x's a day that the PT gave me. My bend is 130 but my straight leg isn't as good. I'm so sick of pain and just being at home. I'm not a sitter, hard to concentrate on a book and TV is so bad. I just wait for each day to be over because I know I'll feel just a little bit better as the time passes. It helps to hear that I'm not a baby and that others know how difficult this all is. My "other" wanted me to go on a cruise at 8 weeks post-op and that tells me he has no idea of the discomfort I'm feeling. This makes me feel so alone except to be able to read these posts from others in my boat.
14 days post op and all is going as expected, swelling itching a little pain with certain movements. Outpatient therapy starts monday and I have some apprehension as I have been through this before. Just remember they only hurt you for a minute at a time and most therapist are compassionate and have a sense of humoras long as you work with them. My original complaint of the bone on bone pain is gone, just like that. I talked to a lot of patients in the hospital at the PT area and all first knee patients were hurting and seemed to think things would magically go away. They do with a lot of work an understanding that the surgical pain goes away in short order. Try to get away from your pain meds as soon as possible, but if you are in pain make sure you use them and don't be afraid to ask for what you need your doc wont make you a junkie they know the limitations. This surgery is amazing and when taken care of properly will let you lead a life with very few restrictions, common sense will dictate that you don't want to tear up the surgeons work cause it is hard to fix.:wave::wave::wave:
[QUOTE=ladyscout;4146375]OMG - 14 days and you are feeling that chirper? This isn't your first so maybe that is the difference as you mentioned but the thought of a second knee is unthinkable right now. I have found that giving up most of the percocet and davorcet have helped my emotions calm down and accept the pain a bit better.[/QUOTE]


I'm 33 days post-op. I had a PT come to my house for 2 weeks after being released from the hospital. She finally told me that I would probably do well by myself since I have been active all my life. I taught step class, low and high impact aerobics (probably my downfall) and finally was certified to teach Pilates about ten years ago. With all that, I was not prepared with the pain and frustration of this surgery.

My workout is about 1 hour a day to very loud Disco music. I'm always flexing during the icing, about 5 times a day for 30-45 minutes. I also sleep with the ice machine on until the ice is gone. I'm afraid I'm going to be addicted to the sucking sound it makes. I limited myself to the pain meds in the beginning because I knew I would probably push myself with the PT. I take one pain pill a day about 30 minutes before my therapy. I hope they last until this mess is over.

I actually went out to our club on New Years Eve. My husband and I play golf,(one of the few activities recommended post surgery). I don't swim very well, so I guess I'll ride my cart into the sunset.

I appear to be the normal recovery. I don't use a cane or walker anymore, and I do drive to the store and back. Most of the time though, I have to go down after doing too much.

I also use a topical OTC gel called Arnica Montana. Even my doc was amazed when I went in for the staple removal. He wrote down the name. All the bruising was gone from the tourniquets they have to use in surgery. There were huge bruises on my thigh and calf, but they were gone in a week or so. It also helps with pain and swelling.

Let's keep everyone posted about our recovery.

Linda
[QUOTE=jmlm4245;4154217]I'm 33 days post-op. I had a PT come to my house for 2 weeks after being released from the hospital. She finally told me that I would probably do well by myself since I have been active all my life. I taught step class, low and high impact aerobics (probably my downfall) and finally was certified to teach Pilates about ten years ago. With all that, I was not prepared with the pain and frustration of this surgery.

My workout is about 1 hour a day to very loud Disco music. I'm always flexing during the icing, about 5 times a day for 30-45 minutes. I also sleep with the ice machine on until the ice is gone. I'm afraid I'm going to be addicted to the sucking sound it makes. I limited myself to the pain meds in the beginning because I knew I would probably push myself with the PT. I take one pain pill a day about 30 minutes before my therapy. I hope they last until this mess is over.

I actually went out to our club on New Years Eve. My husband and I play golf,(one of the few activities recommended post surgery). I don't swim very well, so I guess I'll ride my cart into the sunset.

I appear to be the normal recovery. I don't use a cane or walker anymore, and I do drive to the store and back. Most of the time though, I have to go down after doing too much.

I also use a topical OTC gel called Arnica Montana. Even my doc was amazed when I went in for the staple removal. He wrote down the name. All the bruising was gone from the tourniquets they have to use in surgery. There were huge bruises on my thigh and calf, but they were gone in a week or so. It also helps with pain and swelling.

Let's keep everyone posted about our recovery.

Linda[/QUOTE]

I'm 16 days out of my second knee. First was a year ago. I was worried that recovery wouldn't go as well as last time, but am doing very well. The walker is on the patio and the cane is somewhere in the house. The "too" many inches of snow over Christmas makes it necessary to take the walker when going out, falling is not an option. Last year I was working hard to recoup to get back to the classroom and do student trips. I was back to teaching chem in less than 6 weeks. This year I want to get back to doing volunteering, being independent with driving, etc.
The best advice is to do exercises and stretches at least twice a day. Yes it hurts, but gets better. Make an effort to walk without a limp. Remember, this new knee is more secure than the one we have been walking on before. There is pain, but different from what it was before.
Last time after the wound healed,I was able, to do warm water pool therapy and was able to continue on my own at the facility after the weeks of therapy were completed. Doing personal water walking and stretching therapy for 3-4 months after the new knee really helped. Good luck to all.
I'm sorry to hear that some of you have had difficulty with conflicting information from doctors and therapist. The hospital sent a notebook with and a recommended exercise schedule. It has been extremely helpful. Therapist have added to these. The hospital I went to also had a JOINT CAMP, where those of us who had surgery on the same day went twice a day and did therapy together along with our own coach. It really helped to encourage one another and be able to see others in the same position. This time I went to the same hospital because of the joint camp and its positive nature.
Good Luck to all.
Frannyia
The back and hip pain that someone mentioned, my therapist has told me comes from not walking quite correctly yet. Maybe they can give you some suggestions.

For swelling, have you continued to use the ted hose part of the time? I found they really helped. They aren't fun, but certainly make the legs feel better. I had used them prior to surgery to give my knee more support when teaching and on my feet a lot.

I also used them when traveling to keep swelling down. (I have had trouble with swelling prior, its hereditary.)

I have found some support hose that are like panty hose. They minimize that 'roll down' effect and are much more comfortable. I Googled them.

As to what I use for swelling now, Advil is the choice.

My biggest problem yesterday and today is that the steri-strips that replaced the staples are all coming off too rapidly. I have replaced them with butterfly closures for now. The surgical site just looks like it needs more time to heal and more support.
[QUOTE=Frannyia;4155096]The back and hip pain that someone mentioned, my therapist has told me comes from not walking quite correctly yet. Maybe they can give you some suggestions.

For swelling, have you continued to use the ted hose part of the time? I found they really helped. They aren't fun, but certainly make the legs feel better. I had used them prior to surgery to give my knee more support when teaching and on my feet a lot.

I also used them when traveling to keep swelling down. (I have had trouble with swelling prior, its hereditary.)

I have found some support hose that are like panty hose. They minimize that 'roll down' effect and are much more comfortable. I Googled them.

As to what I use for swelling now, Advil is the choice.

My biggest problem yesterday and today is that the steri-strips that replaced the staples are all coming off too rapidly. I have replaced them with butterfly closures for now. The surgical site just looks like it needs more time to heal and more support.[/QUOTE]

My staples were out in 2 weeks and although red it had closed properly. I used the Arnica Montana and it looks pretty good today. What are the Ted hose? I was not told about them. Will the advil also help with the fluid?

Linda
I had shots to prevent blood clots for 10 days but after I got home from the nursing facility I just couldn't do it and stopped at 7 days. Figured I'd stay more active on my own - it worked - I'm alive.
I'm 7 weeks post-op. I go the PT, out-patient, 3 x's a week and to my gym the other days to ride the bike and get into the hot tub and exercise. I'm also having a heck of a time walking right. It's like learning all over again and my hip, back, neck are in so much pain. I'm still waking up, moving, stretching every hour of the night. I have been driving, carefully, and getting to the store (the cart is like a big walker!) and that lifts my spirits.
[QUOTE=ladyscout;4155402]I had shots to prevent blood clots for 10 days but after I got home from the nursing facility I just couldn't do it and stopped at 7 days. Figured I'd stay more active on my own - it worked - I'm alive.
I'm 7 weeks post-op. I go the PT, out-patient, 3 x's a week and to my gym the other days to ride the bike and get into the hot tub and exercise. I'm also having a heck of a time walking right. It's like learning all over again and my hip, back, neck are in so much pain. I'm still waking up, moving, stretching every hour of the night. I have been driving, carefully, and getting to the store (the cart is like a big walker!) and that lifts my spirits.[/QUOTE]

When I go to the store, I use one of the electric carts. You're right though, even going to the store is uplifting.

I walk alright, it's just painful. This surgery is no cakewalk, and most of us were really active before. We just have to get over the idea that we're in this mess.

Linda
Linda, we obviously went to the same hospital, possibly had the same great Dr. from SF.

Perhaps the terrible pain prior to surgery is why I felt such a difference post-op. Being very sensitive to the meds, and being able to get away from them asap did help emotionally. When back to work, moving and walking was wonderful. The stability of the new knee was a relief. My family, friends and students were so happy to observe the lack of pain and stability with which I was able to move.

I went to therapy yesterday. Rather than feeling like extreme discomfort, it feels more like when I have overexercised in the past and was just stiff. Things are improviing.

Good luck to all.
This week I had appointments with my surgeon and one with my PCP -- who was the one who urged me to have the surgery. I was able to tell both of them that having the surgery was the best thing I could have done!

Sure, it was difficult at first, and even after the immediate surgery and the PT, it was difficult with the back pain and with my shoulders from lifting myself up from low positions. Also the extreme tiredness. But over the weeks, everything came together. I never took pain meds for more than 5 or 6 weeks, and even then only before PT --- as I hated the way medications made me feel .

I am now 3 months/1 week post op, and altho I gave up the walker after 1 week, I began using my rolling cane less and less. It was about 2 to 3 weeks ago that I realized that I wasn't using it at all! AND -- today, in the supermarket parking lot, there were no carts halfway down the lot, so I walked by myself up to the store. First time in a long time I did that, as I was using my rolling cane about a year before the surgery.

My knee still feels like a block of wood, but my ROM keeps improving with daily exercise.

Would I do the other knee? Yes! But I wouldn't wait so long. Also, I would keep a log to track my progress. Quite an experience!
[QUOTE=scribytoo;4157615]I've gone through two TKR's and the sleeping issues didn't resolve until about 6-8 weeks out. When I couldn't sleep, I listened to music with my mp3 player. It was a God-send. I also went to Joint Camp at my hospital and did quite well as long as I followed the plan. Still have the notebooks.

The back and hip issues were similar for me as well and resolved as my gait improved. It is a process but I remember that each time I began to turn the corner by 6 weeks and was able to say I was glad I did it by 8. Actually, I was glad much sooner because the pain was different but it was hard to remember that during the process. I also discovered that I really enjoyed walking more than sitting! Sitting does get very tiring for the leg.

One last thing - the prescription meds are necessary but there comes a day when you realize that they are part of what's dragging you down emotionally. It was a bit of a withdrawal the first time but the second time I was able to switch to Ibuprofen and Tylenol arthritis sooner and was much happier.
Linda in Vermillion SD[/QUOTE]

I went to my first out patient therapy yesterday and was told I'm off the chart in recovery. I guess those funky 70's songs and Pilates are kicking in. I actually worked with a friend today who has had a hard time recovering from TKR. She says on a scale of 1-10, I'm a 10 and she's a 2. I hate that. I don't know why I'm so ahead of her. My hope is that I can help her in her efforts.

I'm doing 30 minutes on level 2 on the bike and another hour with PT recommended exercises as well as my beloved Pilates. They are so adapted to knee injuries.

I'm a Texan so I'm watching Texas/Bama tonight. My husband was born in Bama, so I can't yell to loud for Texas. We lost our QB, so it's anybody's game.

Hook-em Horns

Linda
[QUOTE=jmlm4245;4158349] I actually worked with a friend today who has had a hard time recovering from TKR. She says on a scale of 1-10, I'm a 10 and she's a 2. I hate that. I don't know why I'm so ahead of her. My hope is that I can help her in her efforts.

Wow, how great to have a friend to work out with going through the same thing. At times felt a bit isolated and had to find the motivation to get into it - always so much easier with someone else.

Keep up the great work - you are doing so well. :bouncing:
I spent the whole hour of PT this last Wed. crying! I have never worked so hard and been through so much pain for so little return - in my opinion. I did a 600 mile, 6 day, bike ride two yrs. ago from San Francisco to L.A. I trained for it and did it at 62. This TKR has kicked my butt! I'm on anti-inflamatories now, told I need to cut back on my work-outs and be patient! Yesterday I took the day - bought a pair of shoes, went to lunch with a bike friend and went to the movies. Today I have to leave in a couple minutes for PT and I hate to go. I'll be in pain - again. I'm not doing so well with straightening the leg. God I wish I was done with this! Just fenting - maybe I'll be less teary at PT.
Just wanted to say best of luck to everyone going through this. I had my left knee done 3 months tomorrow (10/13) and will return next week to my teaching position. I still have a lot of stiffness, but I think part of that is the new joint, and part of it me. I don't think I turned out to be the best patient. I know that I was told it would take 3 months, but in my mind, I figured "a couple of weeks, and then I'll enjoy the rest of my vacation." Big ha-ha on me. I had the crying, which was definitely the meds. I also had terrible sleep issues. Couldn't seem to find the right "spot." Now, I wake once nightly (and I think that is more to pee...lol) and I can sleep in my favorite position, on my stomach, without the assortment of pillow ramps (knee up, knee down, knee over, on the back, on the side....no wonder I was exhausted.) I go to PT twice weekly. I got my PCP to give me the meds I needed, when the surgeon shut me down (and used them frugally - for PT and rough nights.) I took a trip to Disney World for New Year's and navigated with a scooter. My husband has been wonderful, but once in a while expresses that I should be walking better "Stand up straight. Heel - toe, heel -toe." Well, surgeon says I'm fine, PT says I'm fine. I just tell him. "Why don't you just go look it up on the internet about how long this should take!" I'm doing just fine. Every day is an improvement. And it will be the same for each of you feeling like it won't. Blessings and speedy recovery to all. Nancy from MA
[QUOTE=cybrary;4161727]Just wanted to say best of luck to everyone going through this. I had my left knee done 3 months tomorrow (10/13) and will return next week to my teaching position. I still have a lot of stiffness, but I think part of that is the new joint, and part of it me. I don't think I turned out to be the best patient. I know that I was told it would take 3 months, but in my mind, I figured "a couple of weeks, and then I'll enjoy the rest of my vacation." Big ha-ha on me. I had the crying, which was definitely the meds. I also had terrible sleep issues. Couldn't seem to find the right "spot." Now, I wake once nightly (and I think that is more to pee...lol) and I can sleep in my favorite position, on my stomach, without the assortment of pillow ramps (knee up, knee down, knee over, on the back, on the side....no wonder I was exhausted.) I go to PT twice weekly. I got my PCP to give me the meds I needed, when the surgeon shut me down (and used them frugally - for PT and rough nights.) I took a trip to Disney World for New Year's and navigated with a scooter. My husband has been wonderful, but once in a while expresses that I should be walking better "Stand up straight. Heel - toe, heel -toe." Well, surgeon says I'm fine, PT says I'm fine. I just tell him. "Why don't you just go look it up on the internet about how long this should take!" I'm doing just fine. Every day is an improvement. And it will be the same for each of you feeling like it won't. Blessings and speedy recovery to all. Nancy from MA[/QUOTE]
Good luck to you as you return to teaching. Last year I was lucky and returned in less than 6 weeks. Since it was over Christmas and semester test days, I really only lost 16 classroom days. (The Chem students were happy to have me back.) 3 and 1/2 months after surgery I road a bus (20 hr) though the night with students for a competition in Texas. We were gone 4 days and did the reverse trip home. I did wear the compression stockings when riding. That really helped with swelling.

This year I'm retired, but still may work with the student competition.

Tomorrow is 4 weeks. Yesterday I did 1 hr PT and 1 hr in the pool to do water walking and more PT. Last night both legs ached and cramped and today were a little stiff, but doing OK now.

THANK your husband for his encouragement. Mine started the 'heel-toe' thing from the beginning when I was walking in the hospital. Keeping that in our heads from the beginning certainly makes it come naturally more quickly. Those who know me are surprised that I walk without a limp. My fellow teachers commented when seeing me after 3 weeks that they couldn't tell I had a problem with my knee. My reply has been that this knee is certainly better than the old knee, why should I have a limp.

We all need to keep a positive attitude. Our neighbor stopped in last week. He is an inspiration to ALL. He has had 2 knees and 2 hips done. His commented that the former pain is gone. Yes the new ones ache, but the old ones gave him extreme pain. He did say that the knees had a harder rehab.

Good luck to all.
Mary
[QUOTE=megsmum;4163894]Hi there, I had my rt knee replacement on 25th October and saw the consultant yesterday and all going well, however it is still sore and need to rest quite a lot with the ice. However first day back to work today and absolutely worn out, only office work.

Regarding the exercise bike, I found that when first on the bike it is not possible to do a complete turn, BUT if you persevere by going backwards and forward as much as poss. eventually the leg does release gradually and will eventually do the complete round. I asked my physio why this is so and it was explained to me that the scar tissue settles, by moving this eventually some chemicals will break down and if the scar tissue is not manipulated you will end up with a stiff leg which will never return to normal as the scar tissue will settle . hope this makes some sense, it did when she explained it to me but prob in better words. however it does work and can now move my leg more or less to normal though still feels weird.

It surprised me how much it took out of me but although uncomfortable it is nowhere the pain that I suffered before, now waiting for the snow to go so I might actually walk, prob with 1 crutch due to confidence, to the local shop.

Hope things improve for you[/QUOTE]

I'm beginning to feel like I'm some kind of robot and at the same time very fortunate. I started my PT the 3rd day after surgery. The day after my staples were out, day 12, I started the stationary bike. There was no effort in turning the pedal and I have eventually worked from 10 minutes on the first day to 30 (day 47). My daily routine consists of 30 minutes on the bike, 10 on the treadmill, and 1 hour of stretching and Pilates. I also walk my dog .9 miles at least 2x a week weather permitting. I think how you heal is based on your activity levels before. I was barely walking before the
surgery but was always very active before knee problems. Now I move like I never had a knee problem.

If it sounds like I'm bragging, I'm sorry. I am very happy with my progress and wish everyone could experience the joy I have when I'm able to do things I haven't done in years. Trust me, you all will experience the same and you will be so proud.

Thanks for letting me gloat a little. Keep exercising. My dr. said "no pain no gain".

Linda
It seems everyone is doing fairly well - a few issues here and there - but for the most part everyone from the start has a great range of flexibility. Everything else appears to solve itself in time.

I started with low flex and continue to be there starting - today - on the 13th week. This situation makes it quite different then.

my nightly baths have become my daily PT sessions now, since being in the hot water seems to give me the right evnironment to push my leg. for the most part, the limited flex is what I have to work with - about 75-78 - and it is becoming difficult to either lay or sit or stand, the side of the leg both up and down from the knee is getting cramps, and difficult to walk.

Maybe in time it will improve - and i keep at it every day. But for me - it did not go the way of the prescribed path - work it while recuperating - it seems my knee wants to heal and then work it.

Have not slept for a long time, way before the surgery - and now I get up at least 5-6 times during the night if not more. The other leg has atrophied quite a bit and as I decided to just start moving, standing is very difficult.

Having lost much of the rest of the body muscles is another problem that i am now working on, as every muscle has atrophied quite a bit.

And on top of everything - going to work. I am glad we have a day off today, this week will then be a 4 day week.

I don't know why my flexibility is not there, I have worked so hard right after surgery and after manipulation ( at 4 weeks) that is almost incredible my flexibility has stayed about the same. Probably doing nothing would have yielded the same results and spared me all the pain of pushing the leg into bending.

I know that everyone is different, and am not comparing with anyone else, just observing how in my case the road to recuperation has been quite different than most of what I've read here.

This week I hope to get a second professional opinion as to how the knee is doing , I am starting to think I need to check everything out, maybe there is something that holds me back. And if there is not, then I just keep moving forward, hoping it will one day bend enough to make walking possible and riding the bike.

before surgery, my knee was in bad shape, and it is possible that it takes longer for the damage to repair inside and only then to make the knee functional. These are all speculations on my part, as i had no advice from someone that actually knows and understands how the healing hierarchy happens. Having been pushed into PT right after surgery apparently did not yield the expected flexibility results.

It is great to hear about the good results, and some of the symptoms of healing from the replacement surgery, it helps me figure outt I am also on the right path, just a lot slower than most.

spirits high, discipline in workouts and hope things will improve - wishing you all a speedier recovery with less pain and steady positive results. coldnstuck
Just curious to know if you were set up with the Continuous Motion Machine following surgery and for the next few weeks. I loved that machine and credit it with my early success with flex. The other thing I learned from my PT was to massage my knee. I do that about 2X a day. It really helps with the stiffness to get things moving. I'm three months out this week and having the other knee done in three weeks.
[QUOTE=ladyscout;4165037]Today is 2 months since surgery and last night was the first "kinda" decent sleep w/Ambien I've had. I'm on anit-inflamatories because I was doing to much so I've cut back and even told the PT people I don't want to push as much and I'm doing much better. I was in great shape before the surgery except for the bone on bone. Even did a 67 mile bike ride the month before. This has been one of the hardest things I've done. My whole body aches due to over-compensating for the operated knee pain. Since I've always been so active this "sitting around" has been awful. I do know that each day I'm a little better.[/QUOTE]

I wish I could take Ambien. I took one about 3 years ago and I was out 16 hours and diagnosed with a potential stroke at the emergency room. I remembered nothing about the incident. I flushed them. I'm among many who have adverse effects. My best sleep is from 10:00 PM to about 1:00 am. I then watch LMN, Law and Order and reruns or old movies on Starz until about 4:00 am. Then I sleep until about 8:00 am and start all over. I ice around 2:00 pm and nod off for about 15 minutes. I then do my 30-40 minutes on the bike/treadmill and an hour of the PT exercises.

I have been lucky enough to have the best orthopedic surgeons around. My ACL 10 years ago on my left knee was repaired by the Dr for the Carolina Panthers and this replacement was done by the Doctor for the local minor league baseball team. I have to give them credit for excellent work. I think it matters a lot with the recovery who your surgeon is.

Keep up the good work. My Dr said "no pain, no gain". I think he's right.

Linda
Its 5 weeks today. The PT said I was ready to go on my own Monday. No more directed PT. I will go in 2 or 3 times a week for warm water walking and exercise. Keeping up regular exercise at home is always very important.

The leg still aches some but Advil keeps it doing OK. Yesterday and today it was aching a little more. Probably predicting the ice storm we had last night.
I get up once or twice a night.

I agree with the person who commented on the continuous motion machine that was used right after surgery and during the hospital stay. That was a great help with flexibility.

The PT said massaging the scar with vitamin E really helps break down the scar tissue and reduce the scar. It did help the scar from last year's surgery, so am doing it again this time.

Good luck to all. We are all different. It takes a lot of perseverance.
I saw my Dr yesterday for 3month check up. Everything is going well, except he was hoping I would have more flexion by now. I have 105-110, but my extension is 0. He was very happy about the extension. My flexion has been very slow coming from the start, and I get it in very little increments. But it has continued to improve little by little so he said to just keep stretching it. My Dr said it will continue to improve for a year, then after that you pretty much have what you are going to have.
I do continue to go to the gym three times a week, and work in the warm water pool also. I do stretching at home, and also ride the exercise bike at home on days that I don't go to the gym.
I was also told that it is normal to have swelling, heat in the knee, and stiffness for up to 9 months.
My gait is good, no limping, I can go up and down stairs with each leg, and only some aching at times, so it is pretty comfortable for the most part. I do feel stiffness and a little more ache when a storm approaches.
Even though my flexion is not where I would like it at this point, I am pretty happy with how everything is coming along. I am finally glad I had this done, and the first three months are behind me. Whew! I will just continue to work hard. Good luck to all of you who are going through the first three months rehab. I have been there!! It does get better.
It's 51 days today. I think I did too much. I'm getting ready to ice and elevate. I'm really addicted to exercise now. I have to scale it back a little though. Maybe 6-7 days a week is too much. I took a group ladies golf lesson today. Good thing it was a putting lesson. One of the ladies also had TKR a few years back and said she was still swelling after 6 months. She's a pretty good golfer, so maybe there's hope for my game.

You guys seem to be recovering well. I think what devastates me is the time it's taking to recover. I have recovered from other surgeries so much faster. Trouble is, I'm going to have to have the left one done pretty soon.

Linda
[QUOTE=mtb1218;4169964]I'm now 3 months post Tkr. After a month my doctor would not give me any more pain meds. Ibuprofen and Tylenol just don't cut it. As of a week ago I still wasn't sleeping so my regular doctor finally gave me some sleeping meds. FINALLY a good night sleep which is now helping with the healing process. PT finished the end of December. Now I'm working out independently 4 times a week. Full body workout. One day Yoga, 3 days walking and weight lifting. I had to go to a chiro to get my hip back in alignment which has really helped. Now it is only my knee that hurts. I still don't have any feeling on the outside of my knee. Hope that comes back some day. I'm now just taking it one day at a time and happy my knee doesn't hurt quite as bad as before surgery. Good luck to everyone who is on this journey.[/QUOTE]

Three months here too.. as of the 15th. No more therapy for me either.. for what she was doing I can do at home... really really didn't like her. I had my ACL repaired years ago and that PT was brutal.. the therapist really really worked you.. watched everything you did.. this one.. when I got there she said ride the bike for 10 mins. then she would give me some papers with the same exercises that they gave me when I came home from the hospital.. I would do those on my own.. she never even came in the room to see what I was doing.. then she would come in and massage my scar for like five mins. then I would do ice and stim.. (which I also have a stim machine to use at home).. so why go.. I have a gym where I live.. so I have access to a bike.. why should I pay a $30.00 copay for her to do nothing.. it was worthless IMO... granted in the beginning yes.. but I'm doing the same thing I was when I came home from the hospital. Done venting.. but I want to start doing some weight stuff as the only issue I really have is strengthening the knee.. I can walk up stairs really well foot over foot but still need to hold the railing with one hand..

I really need to start making a better effort though at exercising on a daily or every other day basis... the only thing I notice is when I sit too long it's killer getting going.. especially like at work.. or when I get up in the morning.

Sorry about your meds... mine said if I need them he will be more than happy to give them to me because he knows nights are the worst.. so he gives me 50 darvocets at a time.. last time I got them was Dec. 24th and I still have many left... but they are nice to have for those horrible days.

Hope you do well.. we all have our little grrrr's about this surgery but I think six months from now we will all be happy.

So glad to hear how others are doing.. sometimes I think I'm just be paranoid.
HI ! I am now 5 days out from surgery. Yesterday and today have been good and bad depending on where I am in the pain med cycle. On 2 percoset every 4 hours and it is almost like clockwork, that I start to hurt 45 mins before the new pills are due and then it takes about 45 mins to kick in. I tried to go to 1 1/2 this morning - big mistake, I'm not ready...
I am spending about 2 hours in the CPM 4 times a day with the cryro-cuff. I haven't figured out how to sleep in the ice cuff comfortably yet. In between, I do exercises, walk around the house w/ walker, and have meals. I usually doze some while in the CPM, cause sleeping at night is tough except during mid pill cycle. When I first set off with the walker, I am like a 90 year old woman (I'm 54), but about 10 steps into it I have a fairly normal gait. I think I am doing pretty well, except for the bouts with pain. Worse than before surgery, but I know it will get better. Aches like hell.

No visiting nurse since I got home on Friday - when I called this PM, they said, "Don't know why they scheduled Barbara, she's off this weekend..." Since, things seem to be OK, ( I can give myself the blood thinner shot, and changing the bandage is no problem) I told them they could wait until Monday, but that I wanted to make sure they had me in the system. Supposedly, both nurse and PT will be here Monday. My extension and flexion seem to be holding up OK. We'll see.

I've been getting a couple hours sleep with me on my side and and a thick king pillow between my legs, any other suggestions? Not much appetite yet - eating healthy, so I can take pills. Lots of fiber.... it's working.... Icing some with Ace Ice wraps during the night. I can't get out of the CPM by myself yet, so I get out of it at night so my husband can sleep. I think if I pushed it, I could get out, but not ready to push it yet, hopefully in a couple of days, and I am hoping the PT will have some suggestions. Even with the pain, my leg is more flexible than before.

The Doc told me that after she got in she saw that it was worse than the xrays had shown and that if either of us were concerned about doing the surgery at 54, we should not be. I was glad to hear that.

For the newbies, Several things that really worked for me ( and every Doc and hospital have their own ways....) I have a close friend in Virginia and she had her TKR 2 hour after me and we have been comparing notes since the evening of our surgeries and the differences were amazing.
1. Happy juice, followed by femoral block and spinal block, were excellant for surgery and recovery room. I was totally unaware, but the Doc said we chatted during surgery and then I snored... Woke up pretty clear and feeling OK. They leave the femoral in for 2 more days to keep the leg numb. Don't be afraid to push the morphine button the first day. When you get off the button. Ask for your meds, sleeping through a med is a big big mistake! Did not walk until second day, but got into PT and walking slowly. Make them keep up with your cold cuff and the CPM. Nurses understaffed, so when they figured out I was in pretty good shape, I saw much less of them. Push the button for the nurses as soon as you need something, it may be awhile before they get there.
I've got to get some sleep - my pills are just beginning to kick in. More later before I forget.....
Still Grumpyat home...
Good luck to you. I am 62 and 5 1/2 weeks out from having the second knee done. It gets better day by day. Everyone reacts differently. I was given ultram and darvoset.(Spelling). I alternated with these two at first and kept a journal of times and numbers so I wouldn't over do.

After 3 weeks, I was only on the strong stuff at night. You are right, don't let the pain get ahead of you.

You commented on not being hungry. That is because of your meds.

I now do water walking 2-3 times a week. Keep up the effort. It is worth all the effort, although I still can't get down on the knee I had done a year ago. Most don't have that trouble.

Good luck. Mary
From the spelling it looks like you're high on pain killers! My best to you. You have a lot of hard days ahead and can I suggest you keep a log. Then when you're down you can read where you were. Sometimes when you in the recovery we can't see the progress we've made. Good luck.
[QUOTE=ladyscout;4175128]From the spelling it looks like you're high on pain killers! My best to you. You have a lot of hard days ahead and can I suggest you keep a log. Then when you're down you can read where you were. Sometimes when you in the recovery we can't see the progress we've made. Good luck.[/QUOTE]

Too funny,

It does appear he's hit the morphine pump one time to many, but all of us have been there and know exactly what he's going through. It's the most painful surgery I've been through.

I was told Thursday by my doctor to slow down on my exercise. It's really hard to do since I've become somewhat addicted to the daily ritual. I guess they know best.

Keep safe
[QUOTE=dinojen;4175332]Actually that post read like I type on my blackberry at times... can't imagine anyone having a laptop with them in the hospital.. especially after this surgery.. and I have to admit.. hubby brought me my BB and I played on that the whole time I was in the hospital.. was good way to kill time.


Funny thing about those pain pumps... the lady next to me in my room was hitting her's like crazy.. guess she didn't realize you can hit it as many times as you want... doesn't mean your getting the juice each time...:D[/QUOTE]


Jen,

First let me apologize for misreading and calling you a man. You are right. The nurses told me you could not get more than 6 pumps in a hour no matter how many times you hit it. I did have my laptop but couldn't use it until the day before I went home because of all the tubes. Truth is, I didn't really care if I talked to anyone.

You have a tough job ahead of you. It sounds like to me the block was still in, if you had one, when you posted. My block ran out at 3AM on the 3rd day. I though I was going to die. I actually wished death. (just kidding) on the 4th day all the tubes came out and I was able to take oral pain medicine.

It's 2 months today since surgery. I'm not having near the pain I thought I would have. I played 7 holes of golf last week. Afterwards, I iced and elevated and can't wait for another sunny day to try for 9 holes. My goal is to be able to finish 18 by April. I can't enter any ladies events until I can play 18 holes. Our club gives free ladies lessons on Thursday's and I've been able to make the first lesson this year. I need every lesson I can get.

Please keep us posted with your progress. We all have our own recovery rate. It sounds like if your posting from the hospital, you're on your way to a speedy recovery.

Linda
Frania, I just had my TKN Jan 5 of this year. I have a followup with the surgeon tomorrow after PT. I am so glad I found this board as I was getting really depressed with the pain and seeming lack of progress. I'm hoping tomorrow he will release me to the warm water therapy pool. Thanks to everyone who has posted...this board has been a real blessing to me. I'm not to far away from you either. Neighbors almost LOL
Milliejs, Glad to hear you may be getting in the therapy pool. As soon as the wound was healed I was allowed in the pool. Warm water therapy is VERY GOOD. You will be very pleased as soon as you can get into the water.

I have been substitute teaching since last Friday and will be there until next week. The knee has been doing very well. I'm tired, but not all because of the knee.

Yesterday, it was school all day, then water therapy for about and hour.

Some words from a wise therapist. If there is pain when doing a specific task, stop it. The old saying "No pain, no gain." doesn't apply with knees. Also if there is too much pain, check with your doctor ASAP.

What I'm really tired of is the snow, but the Ground Hog didn't give us any good news.

Everyone, keep up the good work. All of us are different and our experiences are different.
[QUOTE=corgi02;4176623]I agree. I had surgery mid October and I have to listen to my knee. When it has had enough I rest it. I go to the gym and pool three times a week and just bike and take short walks on other days. I have started back to work this week but only half days. I am a nurse and on my feet so I will take it slow. My flexion is still coming along, I am at 110, Doc says it will continue to improve for a year. I think slow and steady wins the race.[/QUOTE]

my surgery was oct 14, when I stopped PT at end of december I was 131, that is the max, I can go back to work if I can find work, was laid off job 10 months ago, pain for me is my back, the surgery really messed with my back, in 96 had a rear end drunk hit and run, damage my L5, worked my butt off for two years to get back into shape and get the pain to go away, now it is back and I am alot older, have to use hydro 5 for the pain, doing the same I did then to get the pain to go away, slow progress but is getting better, worse pain is sleeping on my side when I try to sleep, sleeping on my back my head gets kinked off to the side and I really hurt

my ribs where protuding out, they were so out of place, had my wife take pics of them when I was in hospital, my pain is anywhere from the shoulders to the hips

to make matters worse, in July 07 was rear ended by another drunk and damaged my neck, just my luck, have bad headaches from that one

I am a sports official, so I have always stayed in good condition and always on my feet

knee has recoovered very well, when I am on it for too long it swells and is painfull
I have a good chiro who gets my spine back in alignment, also have to workout and with both I feel better, if I miss a workout or do not get regular adjustments to my spine, have to use more pain meds, I use hydro 5

hot tub and steam room do wonders for me, usually workouts are 2 hrs our so, back and forth from steamer, hot tub, and swimming
I check this site out regularly - it gives me hope and comfort. I just don't know if I'm ahead of the curve, behind, or right on, in this healing process. I had my TKR Nov. 17th. My lower back hurts, I have horrible pain on the outside of my knee. I can go up stairs foot over foot with the pain on the outside horrible but I haven't tried to go down yet. I know I'm not ready. I stopped PT and now go to the gym 3 x's a week and ride the bike 30 min. and work out another 20 min. then go in the hot tub for about 15 min. By the time I'm home I'm not feeling as great as I did at the gym. This is the hardest thing I've done! I go to the doc. next Tues. I've been on anti-inflamatories for the last month because I worked too hard for too many days in a row. I'm at 125 (about) and not perfect in straightening. I'll maybe find numbers for sure at the doc. next week. Thanks for all the honesty and info. from this site!
[QUOTE=beerhunters;4178160]I have a good chiro who gets my spine back in alignment, also have to workout and with both I feel better, if I miss a workout or do not get regular adjustments to my spine, have to use more pain meds, I use hydro 5

hot tub and steam room do wonders for me, usually workouts are 2 hrs our so, back and forth from steamer, hot tub, and swimming[/QUOTE]

I am almost nine weeks out and can tell those who have had surgery more recent, the back pain is excruciating. But fear not, this too will pass. The real pain I have at this point is just above the kneecap and the right side of the knee. It swells and has fluid most every afternoon. I sleep with my ice machine going. I wake up about 2 times each night for about an hour and give it a break, but the ice is so soothing, I may never give it up.

I have a whirlpool bath that I use daily, but I also get massages weekly which help the back and legs. Keep the faith. We can do it. I can already take steps one at a time.

Linda
Good to hear from you all....the surgeon took followup xrays yesterday...and says eveything looks good. Asked the PT to show me how to massage my knee. No warm water pool for 2 weeks and then have his full blessing....he wants to make absolutely sure everything is sealed and healed. Can hardly wait. I asked him about my back because I warned them before hand that my back was nasty too....he assured me that he made sure to protect my back as much as possible. After seeing your posts on hurting backs I am extremly grateful....can't imagine having bad back pain besides the knee pain.
Will ask my PT about Kinseo tape next week. I'm just past 8 weeks (bi-lat knees) & doing really well (my story reads like a lot of messages here). I had tried ace bandaging but it didn't seem to do anything so I'm interested in this other method.

I also strongly endorse the CPM (LIFESAVER!) ~ I hear alot of folks say the only thing that gets exercised is the machine but .... I truly believe that machine & its gentle motion is what got me where I am today (123 flex, PT 2x a wk and I started back to gym 2 times a week for stregnth/cardio 2 weeks ago going very gentle on knees.) I'm still using it tho' not as often as the first month. Have to return it soon but if I could afford one ..... !!! And that Iceman or Cryocuff -- yeah -- my icemaker has been in overdrive! Can't ice & elevate too much.

Pain is transient -- somedays I really just have stiffness that aches until stretched out -- goes away some time on the stationary recum bicycle. I had to take a couple of Norcos the other night -- the pain was almost like the first few weeks. Still trying to find the magic dose of ibuprofen or tylenol when needed but it's nice to have some fairly painfree days and/or have it barely register on the 1-10 scale.

Hey peeps ~ Thanks for listening and your helpful posts. Even tho others where I live have had 1 or both done it's like I'm the only one right now so your collective comments keep me from feeling too lonely. Go Saints or Go Colts?
my worse pain is still my back from the surgery

I use the ice packs chiro ice,< edited >
I couldn't sleep on my back either.. so nurse told me about sleeping on my side with a pillow between my knees too the pressure off the surgical knee and I was quite comfortable.. then during the night would do the back for awhile.. the roll back to the side.. I can sleep on both sides now...at 3 mos. post op... well almost 4 now.

When I first came home I was doing the sit down stand up exercise from the side of my bed.. gave you a little head start with the bounce of the bed and I could do it without holding on to anything really early and that's a great exercise.

Another good one for extension is doing a push from the wall, flex your good leg with your arms on the wall and put your surgical leg behind you and stretch it for a count of ten.. do that like four or five times... really helps the extension.

Be prepared for set backs... I live in No. Ca. and the damp and rain has really been causing havoc with my new knee and other joints... PT said to expect it from now on.. so I ice and take a ibprofen and all is well again..
if u have to sleep on your back, get this U shaped pillow and put it around your neck, found one at wally for 5 bucks, u want to keep your head from getting kinked to either side to keep spine in alignment
hey ya'll - instead of sleeping I read these posts, chat with dinojen on several threads, and ice. Waiting for pain pills to kick in.
I am doing as Dinojen suggested and using a pillow to sleep on my side, my bed is covered with different size, width and length pillows that I have been trying out. Sometimes I find that I get restless after a couple of hours and wake up with my hip hurting from staying in one position. Before TKR, I was constantly moving around, since TKR I tend to stay in one position until pain pills run out. Also I wake up and my ear hurts (like an ear ache), I guess from the suction on the pillow. Even found myself on my stomach a couple of times but not for long.
I have tried a half of an Ambien once or twice, but it doesn't help me sleep any longer, just gets me to sleep a little faster.
Trial and error - Good night. DJ - you're sure this gets better? [email protected]
[QUOTE=Grumpyathome;4180947]hey ya'll - instead of sleeping I read these posts, chat with dinojen on several threads, and ice. Waiting for pain pills to kick in.
I am doing as Dinojen suggested and using a pillow to sleep on my side, my bed is covered with different size, width and length pillows that I have been trying out. Sometimes I find that I get restless after a couple of hours and wake up with my hip hurting from staying in one position. Before TKR, I was constantly moving around, since TKR I tend to stay in one position until pain pills run out. Also I wake up and my ear hurts (like an ear ache), I guess from the suction on the pillow. Even found myself on my stomach a couple of times but not for long.
I have tried a half of an Ambien once or twice, but it doesn't help me sleep any longer, just gets me to sleep a little faster.
Trial and error - Good night. DJ - you're sure this gets better? [email protected][/QUOTE]

I felt the same way, went through same thing, kept saying to myself, never again, never again, after four months, starting to turn the corner

my worse pain is back, hip pain
Today is Wed. and I'm thinking of you! The first 4 weeks are the hardest. I was at the Othopedic yesterday and told not to exercise my knee much. I have a tendon rubbing across the new joint causing terrible pain and inflamation. He says that there is nothing to do about it at this point (11 weeks). It limits my exercise program. I don't blame you for waiting for the second knee. I'll be doing the same thing! Hope to hear from you in a week or so.
[QUOTE=ladyscout;4182726]Today is Wed. and I'm thinking of you! The first 4 weeks are the hardest. I was at the Othopedic yesterday and told not to exercise my knee much. I have a tendon rubbing across the new joint causing terrible pain and inflamation. He says that there is nothing to do about it at this point (11 weeks). It limits my exercise program. I don't blame you for waiting for the second knee. I'll be doing the same thing! Hope to hear from you in a week or so.[/QUOTE]

Bless your heart. This is difficult enough without complications. Can they ever do anything with the tendon? How about a second opinion? Don't lose hope.

Praying for you.

Linda
Hi Gang!
24 days post-op, Back from post-op appt with my Doc yesterday. Overall got a great report. She was happy with my ROM - 1 and 114, but wants me to work on both. When I asked about how long the pain would continue, she said," well you know we did basically cut your leg in half, so it's going to be a while." She also said that younger patients have more active nerves than her older patients (80's) so we (it's nice to be considered young at 54) generally have more pain longer. Lucky us.

I start outside PT on Monday and because I have stomach problems when I take Nsaids, I am staying on the Percocet a while longer. That means no driving until I can deal with the pain with Tylenol. I see her again in a month.

I had a rough morning this AM with the whole leg ache. Finally got in the bath tub and soaked. It felt sooooo gooood. I kept the surgical leg elevated some and then used the ice cuff after to prevent swelling. But it didn't really swell much and getting out of the tub was actually easier than before surgery. Took another bath this afternoon when the pain picked up again. Trying to cut back from 2 percocet to one and I can really feel the difference. Also do a lot of napping. I can move around great, just dealing with pain and fatigue. I am hoping that the outside PT revives me, without killing me.
Have a good weekend.
Grumpyathome.
10 days was walking without aide
driving after a month, standard trany
pain is still on going, sleeping pain is getting better
use hydro 5, too many, try to get by with IB 600, not much help
no more pt, no more insurance, no more money, no more job
working out at gym, best workout today, 3 hrs, steam room, whirlpool, swimming, situps, pushups, drinking alot of water
still have alot of issues with left groin, the place they put the needle to put me out, they did something, but dont know what it is
back pain is the biggest issue I have from the surgery, have pain I didnt have before the TKR, now at 17 weeks
healthy enough now to get back to work if I can find work
surgery at 56, now 57

what helps me the most is going to gym to workout, pain killers, staying regular, and walking as much as I can
I am 8 wks out of the 2nd tkr. Also just finished doing 2 wks of teaching. Have been using only ibuprofen Haven't used a cane for many weeks. Just use it when out on the ice. I also was concerned about my quads. I use my hands to get up. Working on it in the pool has helped some, but it is slow going. Getting up from a very low chair is difficult. The therapist said it just takes a lot of time and the Dr. said it may not completely return to full strength.

After exercising in the pool for an hour, I do need some ibuprophen, but sleeping and walking have been good. Going down stairs normally still stretches some but I continue to do it. Going up is no problem.

Good luck to all.
This board has been such a blessing to me and I'm sure, to lots of other also. I'm 6 weeks out from surgery and the last few days have been having more trouble with my knee swelling and my quads hurting really bad. Today my therapist took a tennis ball and massaged all the muscle area above my knee....at first it hurt big time but as he continued to work on it, it began to feel much better. He thinks the swelling was starting in the muscle area and then spreading down to the knee....I am supposed to massage the area 4 or 5 times a day and see if we can get this loosened up. I could actually feel knots and hard places. Maybe this will help someone else.

Also saw my surgeon and he found a little place where a stitch had not dissoloved (he used glue on the outer incision) so he had to snip it and take it out. So now he wants me to wait until Sunday before getting in the pool. I was disappointed but sure don't want infection...so will wait patiently.

Hope everyone is progressing and getting bettr.
Hi Southgirl. I'm HiMaintenance, and had my surgery 1/20/10. I've posted a couple of times on this board. I have 125 flex, and a couple of degrees to go on extension. Extension has been the hardest to get back to normal. I do bike for 15 min a day and walk 1/2 mile a day. I still am on Percoset, roughly 2 during the night, and one before PT (3x/week). I still can't get over the pain, as nights are my toughest. Nights are brutal for me. I'm getting stronger every day. First 2 weeks for me were absolutely brutal from pain and the PT (I've cried several times). Good luck.
Morning Guys and Gals...
Grumpy how ya doing? You too Matter and everyone else?

Well old Dino is at 120 days post op as of the 15th.. and doing relatively well.
Nights still are the worst. It's no problem getting to sleep, it's when you wake up and realize you have been in one position too long.. but I have managed to learn to sleep on my operated side with my knee straight or bent.. it's just getting it straight that takes awhile...lol.

Went to the city SF on Saturday to celebrate our anniversary.. 30 years.. and had a beautiful dinner.. the kicker was, while we took a cab to the restaurant, I WALKED back to the hotel which I have to admit impressed myself. Took my cane just in case..(fear of concrete).. didn't really use it .. hubby just thought it would be a good idea and he was right. Daily I do fine walking.. I admire those of you that exercise do diligently. I really need to make a better effort at working out, but by the time I get home from work I am pooped.

As for the kneeling, I have no issue really kneeling on my operated knee but then it isn't for a long period of time, but I can get down on it and put pressure on it. Flex is great.. and I think I finally got my extension equal to my right leg, this weekend had horribly burning behind my knee and now it's gone and I noticed my leg really has great extension.

Get cramps in my calves like crazy..nothing horrible.. but flex my ankle up and down and they usually go away... otherwise I really don't have any huge complaints.. still glad I did it.. would do it all over again.

Still take darvocets when I feel the need.. it's usually after being on my leg for a long long period of time or of course at night... but it's not even a daily basis any longer.

Now if I could just get my lazy butt to exercise more it would be great I'm sure. Soon as we get our California weather back I'm hitting the pool.. they say that is the best exercise.

One great thing about this whole thing is the weight loss...:p... Now I just need to keep going.

Wishing you all well... pilates sounds good...think I might try that also.

Well going to do a few stretching exercises before I hit the shower and head for work, just wanted to check in on you all.

Will check back after work... happy PT to all of you that are still going ..
Hey Dinojen ! Glad to hear from you - Talked about my pain issues on Matter's TKR post, so won't repeat it here. Have the same issues as you with the sleeping positions... Good to hear you are doing well and had a good anniversary. Wish you were telling me that you had no pain at all. It would be something to look forward to. I am too impatient, I am only at 35 days post-op and I want to be better now!

My new PT is working on extension and I can already see and feel and improvement. So far she is working out great. I need to work out and walk more, but I am so tired from the Percocets.... and I know I am not eating enough, but just have no appetite. On the other hand, I am down almost 20 lbs since Christmas. So you take the good with the bad...

Have a good day. [email protected]
[QUOTE=Grumpyathome;4191164]Hey Dinojen ! Glad to hear from you - Talked about my pain issues on Matter's TKR post, so won't repeat it here. Have the same issues as you with the sleeping positions... Good to hear you are doing well and had a good anniversary. Wish you were telling me that you had no pain at all. It would be something to look forward to. I am too impatient, I am only at 35 days post-op and I want to be better now!

My new PT is working on extension and I can already see and feel and improvement. So far she is working out great. I need to work out and walk more, but I am so tired from the Percocets.... and I know I am not eating enough, but just have no appetite. On the other hand, I am down almost 20 lbs since Christmas. So you take the good with the bad...

Have a good day. [email protected][/QUOTE]


Trust me the pain diminishes.. it really does.. the pain I have now isn't really pain.. it's just an annoyance and not even half as bad as i was before the surgery.. so this I will take... My doc. keeps saying by six months is when you really really notice the difference. Two more months to see if he was fibbing...lol.

Take care and I'll check in tonite.
Hello all...I just found this post this weekend. It has answered so many questions. I have not had my TKR yet, it was first scheduled for Jan. 4th, but my bp skyrocketed, then rescheduled for Feb. 1st...again a no go...I have been dealing with this knee for 3 years now, 2 scopes (nothing), symvisc (nothing)...Have found a new Dr. and have appt w/him on Monday the 1st of march. Is anyone here from NH? Just in case this doc doesn't work, I am wondering if any of you can reccomend, someone from southern NH. Thank you Dawn
I go to another doc. for a second opinion on March 2nd and then back to my surgeon on March 9th. By then I should have some ans. I'm going on a 10 day cruise March 26th. I figured that was 4 months and I'd read that most people are really feeling better - not a 100% - but significantly better by then. Hope so! My last cruise was in Oct. through the Panama Canal from L.A. to Puerto Rico and I did stuff but was really hurting. I've bought flats to wear in the evening because I'm sure heels are out :-(
Greetings from Alaska ~ So great to read of everyone's accomplishments & not feel so alone when I'm experiencing the same setbacks. I had my 6 week check-up last Tuesday at the 10 week mark! A month ago I could not have flown in a small plane & do those rickety stairs. My BiLat TKR was done in Anchorage which is 225 road miles from here & 117 as the eagle flies in what feels like a mini-van with wings! But my good news is the surgeon was really pleased with my progress. I too took my cane but did not need to use it and I had some fairly long walks in the airport & even on the medical campus between buildings. Went up to the surgical floor & saw a lot of the crew who took care of me. I must look much better w/o bed head & wearing street clothes! And not crying! I was able to walk down the hall & do a pirouette and when I came to the practice stairs that truly defeated me on days 2 & 3 in Dec. I went up foot over foot and really didn't mind that my descending was not very smooth! It was a super visit as I really could not imagine I'd be here (0 ext, 128-130 flex) 2 months later. They were the nicest group of people & I just sent a letter to their boss and cc'd to others at the hospital admin. My surgeon was excellent but the support staff are amazing special people. As are you all --

But then I woke up the next day ....... oh how sore my legs were OW OW OW. I tried my home exercises (OW OW) I had iceman'd & elevated throughout the night but push came to shove & I took two pain pills.

Which brings to this point -- I sooooo appreciate hearing that many of you still need something stronger than OTC tylenol or ibuprofen because the "break through pain" is absolutely the worst. The first month I lived by the pill bottle & my watch! Second month not as much. But at this checkup and even at PT the other day -- I was advised to get a stronger anti-inflammatory and that I really should not be needing narcotics . Well - yeah -- I wish that were so but when I'm in that much hurt I can't push through the pain. Somedays I do and it's like I never had the surgery. It hurts to move like it use to & I might not exercise for a couple of days because of it. I know some days that I have done to much to soon - once I've stretched & warmed up I really feel invincible! But am learning to pace myself. I went to my family practicioner and she was comfortable with a limited prescription of the hydrocodone. She said surgeons often leave the pain management up to the personal physician and not to take it personally that I still need something stronger. She was really sweet -- hello - you had 2 knees replaced! Like everyone says on these boards -- it does get better & I've seen proof of that in me, too.

Like dinojen - I get cramps too and ankle pumps & knee slides have helped me. The PT is talking about customized compression hose as my legs seem to have sprouted bumpy varicose veins and do feel very tired. I am heavy but am working out at Curves 2-3 times a week (very slow & careful with certain exercises - like I was in the beginning 3 years ago - I've dropped to the weight I was when I quit working out last summer and also lost some inches so that is encouraging), take slow almost daily walks with hubby & the dog (about 20 -30 minutes - chanting heel-toe heel-toe .... relax the shoulders ... bend the knees ..... swing the arms .....!)

Well - I am off to town & the library, post office, Curves. PS: my balance is not very good. At PT they have some machine that I stand on like a human joystick & move the cursor on the screen to different boxes or tracing circles. I've been walking on uneven surfaces -- kind of like gel filled circle things. I've been so focused on walking and flexing that I forget about balancing and scar care. Has anyone else had problems with that? If I got stopped for a routine check I'd fail a sobriety test (EDITED TEXT: not because I drink & drive I have strict standards about that and I won't while I'm on pain pills either) -- I can't stand on one leg very long if at all - much less shut my eyes & touch my nose. It's getting better with practice but it really surprised me as I took it for granted before the surgery.

Thanks for reading -- Keep getting weller & weller. I look forward to chatting with you again. Thank you soooo much for being here!
[QUOTE=ladyscout;4192707]I go to another doc. for a second opinion on March 2nd and then back to my surgeon on March 9th. By then I should have some ans. I'm going on a 10 day cruise March 26th. I figured that was 4 months and I'd read that most people are really feeling better - not a 100% - but significantly better by then. Hope so! My last cruise was in Oct. through the Panama Canal from L.A. to Puerto Rico and I did stuff but was really hurting. I've bought flats to wear in the evening because I'm sure heels are out :-([/QUOTE]

the PT told me to buy a real good pair of walking shoes, I bought a pair of new balance, what a difference they make
Morning fellow bionics..

Had my TKR on the 15th of Oct. and went back to work at 7 weeks post op. I sit at a desk all day too.. I do get stiff but found that I put a small stool under my desk that way it's not just hanging there or I can stretch it out straight if I want to.. plus the girls or Melisa in my office says "come on Jen time for a stretch".. so I go with her while she grabs a smoke outside...lol. I do find when I am at home and watch tv on the sofa it's pretty tough still to get up and get going.. but once I'm up it's okay.

Still achy, still feels swollen at times and I just got the riot act read to me last night from my beloved husband about not exercising enough...:dizzy: which I know he is right. So this morning before the shower I did my squats and stuff like that.. this weekend I'm off to look for a bike for the house. That way I can ride it for a bit in the morning and then when I come home I can watch my taped soap and ride it then.. won't seem like so long then...lol. Can you tell I'm not a real big exercise fan.. I have a step master too in the gym where I live so I guess next week it's a new regime for me.

Don't worry about going back to work, my boss has been great, keeps asking me if I'm still happy I did it.. and answer is the same everytime... YES.. the bone on bone pain was horrendous compared to just feeling uncomfortable at times now.

Find myself wondering if I should of kept up PT longer but I really really really didn't like my therapist. She would put me in a room, give me three sheets of papers with exercises on it.. (the same ones they sent me home from the hospital with) I rode a bike for 10 mins... the she would come in and tell me to do some leg lifts.. rub my scar for maybe five minutes.. then time for ice and stim.. and for this I paid HOW MUCH... I can do all that by myself.. I even have the stim machine... so... I wish I would of had someone a little more demanding of me and spent more time with me as a patient. My doctor said anytime I felt I needed more therapy just to ask... thankfully he still gives me my meds.. it's just darvocet.. but sure comes in handy for those "off days".. and I have 800 mg. ibprofen too. I think if I decide to go back to therapy I will go down to where my dr. is and use their therapist.. I would never ever recommend the one I had, she was horrible. After having my ACL done in 1995 I know what rehab is.. I know what the therapy should be like.. and this lady was useless.

Dang I'm long winded today.. I'm sorry..

Anyway for those of you post op shortly.. it does get better.. and the pain does lessen. I can lay in bed now with now pillow under my knee just totally flat.. Sometimes it takes a little longer to slide that puppy straight but it goes straight so that's a good thing.

Just do your exercises.. drink tons of water...and keep good thoughts.. it will all be worth it after awhile.. with each accomplishment you do you will feel fantastic. I think of this everytime I get in my car.. I had to lift my leg in before... now it's just hop in and go.. I love it.

Sorry again for blabbering... Hope everyone has a good day.. will check in later..
Okay all....it is always so great to read your posts and I always gain some insight. I am almost 8 weeks out from my surgery and am doing reasonably well I think. It seems to me like my biggest problem is the swelling. It seems like the knee itself does not hurt that badly until it start swelling. Ice does not seem to help that much at that point (except to freeze my leg LOL). I am taking vicadins at night and before therapy and darvocet the rest of the time. I feel like I am taking too many pain pills yet but my dr's think I am still doing ok with them. Does anyone have suggestions to alleviate or help control the swelling. HELP!!!!!!
Hi all - it's 4:30am and I'm awake. Waiting for a pill to kick in. After an hour in a warm tub, I'm just about ready to try to go back to sleep. I did get to see the US 4 man bobsled team win Gold so that was good. My cat's awake to. She is good company during the night. Luckily, my husband is still in the guest room and from the looks of it will be for a while longer. Can't wait to be normal again - except I didn't sleep well before surgery either. Maybe sleeping all night is abnormal? Anyway, I don't know what I would do without these boards. It is so nice to know there are other people who are going through this or already are past this stage. Unless you have had this surgery, it is very hard to understand. You look like you should feel fine, but it just takes so long to totally recover. I know some folks, a couple of years out and they say that life does go back to normal and to be patient. But it's hard. I mean it didn't take this long to feel normal after a c-section and there was a lot of slicing and dicing there. Who would have thought that a leg would give you this much trouble, but appear to be practically normal except a zipper looking thing going down your kneecap?
Well time to try to sleep....Grumpy-but-not-Sleepyathome........
I have used the Ted Hose, (Support stockings) a lot. I had swelling in my legs even before TKR. This is my second and am 12 weeks out. It still gets stiff and hurts some when I overdue. I also purchased a pair of support panty hose from an internet site. They were and are terrible to get on, but are a lot more comfortable than those that just go to mid thigh because there isn't the rolling problem. I plan to ride a bus with students on a 22 hr trip. (no overnight stops). I will be wearing those stockings.

Good luck with this.
[QUOTE=milliejs;4194299]I guess no one can hep....thanks anyway....[/QUOTE]

milliejs: I just read your post regarding your swelling problems. I too had lots of swelling after surgery. I am now four months out, and guess what, I still have some right above my knee that doesn't want to go away. This swelling was my biggest problem from the start. It prevents flexion and moving ahead with range of motion. My Dr says it may take an entire year for all of it to go away, and maybe longer. He told me that some people just get it, and others don't, no reason to explain. What I did, and still do although less often, I make sure that I elevate it most of the time when I am staionary. I iced and used heat alternately. I also wore my compression stockings for over three months. Sometimes when I am at work, I still wear them, as I am a nurse and on my feet. If you feel stiff when you walk, I did too at your stage, and sometimes still. It does loosen up faster and stays loose longer though the more time goes by. Be sure you do your exercises everyday, ride a bike, and do lots of quad exercises, and short arc quad sets.
We tried everything from a very stiff compression bandage, to ace wraps, to estim, etc, and it continued to stay swollen. I think my Dr is right. although frustrating and uncomfortable, tincture of time is the best medicine. It just takes a long time for all of the swelling and inflammation to go away and that goes along with healing. I hope I have helped a little. I know how frustrating it is.
Afternoon.. just Dino checking in on us rehabbers...lol.

Doing pretty good. I didn't do the bike yesterday but I did the stairs.. two times.. there are 16 steps.. so I did 32 steps 6 times twice yesterday.. I thought that was enough.. Hubby says I need to quit acting to so scared.. heck I don't think he has hit concrete as many times as I have...lol.. Anyway.. it felt good for loosening up the knee, the only thing I noticed is when walking up at 4 mos. post I still don't have the strength in the knee to do it without using the railings. Just achy not much pain afterwards.

Feeling pretty good today... need to go out and do the stairs though, then tomorrow when I get home from work will go use the treadmill. I don't like the bikes we have.. it's not an excuse but the one at rehab had a back to it, these here at our gym don't and they are really uncomfortable to ride for this shorty.

Going to go back I think to those beginner exercises to each morning I think that will help a whole lot.. like I said before once I got up and got cocky about walking unaided I kind of slacked off on the exercises.

Love the sound of these gel cuffs you are all talking about, the icing makes your knee feel so good.

So next weekend when hubby comes home we are going on a bike try out, he wants me to find one I am comfortable with before buying it...

Packed his suitcase this morning and had to get on the floor and I was so impressed how much easier it is getting to get up off the floor.. woo hoo.. so little things mean alot when you can accomplish them.

Going to google Weight Watchers too and see if I can shed a few more lbs. Seems like I have hit a stalemate there...lol...:p

Hope everyone is doing well... Don't worry about the meds guys.. use them if you need them. I still take a darvocet when I am really uncomfortable.. especially at night.. I often wonder if our nights sleep will ever be like it was before surgery.

OK... back to the race and hockey game.. I'll check back later.. Hope everyone is doing well and healing fine.:wave:
Been reading lots of threads about TKR and picking up lots of info thanks to all the posts here. Doc told me I need a knee replacement - waiting for my appt with another ortho at large med center in Chicago now. I used to work there and this doc is likely the one who will do surgery if he agrees it is necessary. Scared of the whole process to be truthful ---------

thanks to info on this forum I started pre-op exercises. Figured it would help later and what the heck I need to strengthen the knee any way you look at it. Got book recommended on this forum from the library and found it really easy to read. Have read so many posts this last week or so and followed several people thru surgery and recovery via their posts. You guys are wonderful support to one another and I was very lucky to have found this site so early on in this whole process.

Millie - I looked in the book I have on knee replacement regarding swelling and the recommendations are of course ice and also elevation of the operated leg above the level of the heart (says one hour twice a day) and use of compression stockings or TED hose. Says the hose are easier to put one in the morning after you have been in bed and your leg is least swollen. Says to ask surgeon how long per day to wear and also that most surgeons will want you to wear them all the time except while sleeping & bathing. Hope that is of some help - I haven't been thru this all yet but the author is an ortho doc who has been thru TKR both as surgeon and as TKR patient.

Thanks again to all you guys/gals who have shared your experiences and I wish you all wonderful recovery and I will be trying to remember all I am learning here. As Arnold said "I'll be back!"

Rusty
God I wish! I haven't had a good nights sleep since Nov. 17th surgery. I toss and turn all night trying to find a comfortable position. I am using a Slumber Jack (backpacking pillow I had from my camping). It makes it easier to turn all night instead of using a reg. sized pillow. Seeing another orthopedic today for a second opinion on the severe pain in the outside part of my knee (something is rubbing on a nerve).
Haven't had spasms since the 2nd week but I'd guess you need a muscle relaxer from the doctor and bananas. I'm a biker (pedal, road bike) and we always do bananas and Tums (yes Tums). They both reduce spasms.
Hi all....never heard of tums for spasms....learn something new every day. My dr. said some people just have more trouble with swelling...keep icing and keep legs above heart when putting legs up and/or icing. Doesn't want to see me for a year.....

The latest scenario is that I have developed a cavity under a bridge...I had this worked on in December and they replaced the bridge then....now there is another cavity.....my dentist is on vacation and won't be back till the end of the week....I did get some antibiotics from the GP and talked to the dentist who is covering for mine....we are going to try to wait...but he said I absolutely should take the antibiotics....just what I needed.....a toothache.....LOL...
It looks like we're all recovering at our own pace. I was released on the 1st at my 90 day anniversary. I was told by doc that even if I had my teeth cleaned I had to take antibiotics. I would still like to hear from you guys.

I'm going to search the board for wrist problems. I had a nerve study done Thursday trying to figure out the problem. I can't believe I got the knee fixed so I can walk and play my beloved golf, and now I can hardly swing the club.

Growing old is not for the timid.

Linda
I had my left knee replaced 7 weeks and 2 days ago. I thought I would be perfect by now. The best thing I've found so far? The messages that people have written here about thier knee replacements. I can't believe how much I cry and it isn't from medication. I just feel so hopeless. I keep thinking there is something wrong with my knee or something wrong with me (totally defective person). I am scheduled to go back to work in two weeks. There is no way I can do my job in two weeks. I am a public defender and my job is very active....lots of walking, lots of getting up and down and things to carry, all the time. I can walk without the walker or a cane, but not very far or very long. I have not driven yet because I am still on pain pills. My knee is so stiff and so swollen, it feels like it weighs 50 pounds. I have had complete/perfect extension from the beginning and I get 112 to 115 knee bend at physical therapy.

My knee clicks, when I walk. Did anyone else have that? It drives me nuts. The medical people just shake thier heads, when I talk about it. I've heard it might go away and it might be there forever. It doesn't just click once, it goes click, click, click and sort of reverberates thru my body.

I think that every concern I've had has been brought up by someone in these messages. I think the hardest thing for me is that I know how important it is to work hard and then, when I do, I am incapcitated for the whole next day.

I have never been a very active person, so the physical therapy I am doing is probably the most exercise I've ever had in my life. I am, of course, quite overweight and think that probably adds to the difficulty I am having with my recovery. But I am what I am.

I don't think I'll really be ready to go back to work in two weeks.

Any comments will be appreciated.
Mary, Thanks for your relpy. I've been using a rolling brief case for years. I didn't mention that I am 69.....I happen to be the oldest attorney in our office. I hadn't thought about all the daily walking that I have been doing for years being something to help me be in good shape. I have to use the rolling brief case just to get from my car to the courtrooms. We have an oddly set up courtroom situation. Once I get to where I am going---then the real fun begins! The daily routine consists negotiating cases----talking to a prosecutor, then to your client, then back to the prosecutor. This can be a read grind. Especially when there is a difficult client or prosecutor. I also have to do pleas and motions. Then, of course, there are trials. There is no way that I can get help with my job----our agency is so underfunded that we are currently all taking a furlough day each month--a day without pay. There are three attorneys out on sick leave and several attorneys retired this year and none of them have been replaced. Our support staff is already overloaded and there is no "light duty" for my job.

I will ask more about the knee clicking. I hope it goes away, but I am afraid it won't. I've heard that sometimes it does.....like with you. I will also see if I can get some warm water walking. I wonder if there is anything around this town! We do have a YWCA and it is a very popular place, but I don't think they have anything like that.

I am glad you told me that getting up and down come last because those really are the hard things.

Thanks, again.
Hi guys... another first was accomplished.. woo hoo... and it was totally enjoyable... I am so happy...

Will be 5 mos. post op on the 15th of this month and I made my first trip to the MALL... OMG OMG OMG... you have no idea how long it has been since I have been to the mall. I'm dead serious.. I shopped places that had carts to hold on too.. Target, Walmart, TJ Maxx.. was terrified of getting in the mall and not being able to get out and that was even before surgery..

So yesterday we hit the mall... got two pairs of shoes.. woo hoo.. and one wasn't tennis shoes... I am doing a happy dance... lol... I have lived in tennies just because I felt safe in them. Then headed to the home goods department and did some damage there... went up and down the escalators.. have to admit I was kind of freaked the first time.. but was fine... I took my cane with me just because it was the first trip.. and didn't want to make a fool of myself. Have to admit by the time I got home yes I was sore and tired.. I always did hate the hard floors in malls.. hard on your feet.... lol. Hubby was very proud of me... Even celebrated with a margarita when I got home...:p

Today I was sitting on the sofa.. and I was moving my leg around and heard all this clicking or crunching.. and I thought was the heck is that so I did a few exercises, bending and straightening it out.. and poof it was gone.. and knee felt fine.. think it has alot to do with scar tissue.. that's why it's important to keep it moving. I had some really really scary clicking in the beginning and that's when I was told about the scar tissue.. it's your knee doing what it is suppose to do.. breaking up scar tissue... not a pleasant feeling but once you break it up.. knee sure feels better.

That's about all my news.. just had to share about my outing to the mall.. it sure did feel good.. and we didn't even use a handicapped parking spot.. I walked from the parking lot to the mall.. I am so excited...

Will check in later... gotta do a few things... then I'm going to watch the Oscar's..

Hope everyone is well and feeling better each day... I am so happy I did the surgery.. each day I learn something new I can do that I couldn't so before.. only thing I notice is hubby's car is harder for me to get in than mine.. weird and they are both SUV's... I don't get it.. but I'm not complaining... lol
Mary,
As I read these post, I feel so bad for those who are having such a hard time. My doc told me when he released me that he had never had such a speedy recovery from a TKR patient. I lost 15 pounds during the first 3 weeks from just not eating. Then as I began to do the exercise I lost more. I really can't function without the daily workouts. I had been a slug for several years because of the knee, and was really out of shape. I now workout about 2 hours on MWF, and ride the bike everyday for 30 minutes along with PT.
Our club has a really nice workout room so I don't have to go far. We don't have a heated pool, but as soon as we get our "HOT CENTRAL TEXAS" weather, I'll be water walking. In the meantime, I get in a hot jacuzzi tub at night and do lots of knee extensions. The Pilates help also. I have such a small amount of pain now, that I just use Tylenol.

I'll keep in touch,
Linda
LadyScout,

I'm so sorry for your problems. Some of the things I did were kinda silly, but they helped me. I put on up tempo (disco) music and did a lot of marching in place. I would then go to the stair case, and walk up and down the first step like I used to do in step classes. I can't help but think the clicking, which I have from time to time, is scar tissue. When I have the clicking, I get in a warm tub with aches and pains bath salts, Wal-Mart has a really good selection or buy epson salts and just add a few drops of eucalyptus oil and massage oil and do lots of knee to nose bends. After a few moments, the clicking goes away for me.

I have been told by my Doctor, who jokingly likes to tell me he's the reason I'm doing so well, that all the exercise I'm doing is the reason for my speedy recovery.

Keep trying as hard as possible to move the knee and know there will be pain. I have talked to people who were still having clicking pain after a year. This surgery is the worst I've ever had. I also like to "what if" at times. What if this surgery was not available to me and I had to suffer like my grandmother did? She would have a hoe in one hand and lean on a crutch with the other because she loved her garden so much. At night her knees would be the size of cantaloupes with no relief in sight.

I'll be thinking of you,
Linda
Ladyscout, I wonder if your "crackling" is the same thing I call "clicking". It started the day I got my staples out, while I was walking out of the doctor's office. It seems like the answer you got from the surgeon you saw, is the same answer I've gotten from everyone I've talked to---the nurse practitioner, three physical thearpists and the orthopedic nurse---they all say the same thing....it isn't unusual, lots of people get it, it goes away in some people and others have it forever. Not what I wanted to hear.

I am having lots of problems with PT and what I call "outings". After either PT or a short pleasant outing, I am so stiff and in so much pain, I am pretty much usless for the rest of that day and all of the next. My PT and I agreed to take the PT down a notch to see if that helps. I figure it must be better to be able to do the at home exercises daily, than to do too much PT one day and nothing the next. I just tried my bed exercises and could do them---and had PT yesterday, so I think it did help not to push me too hard. I realized I had been letting her push me beyond the point where I was feeling a lot of pain====why? Because I am such a goody two shoes and didn't want her to be disappointed in me.

I have not even tried to go up or down stairs. My balance is so bad, I can't imagine doing that.

I am 7 weeks past surgery.....I figure my age and weight (lots of that) add to the problems I am having. I am 69.....and I am very heavy. Okay 280.
[QUOTE=beerhunters;4200930]21 weeks, feel confident about doing just about anything, still have limp in left leg, knee feels good, swelling and pain go with my activities

biggest pain is back, have pain I didnt have before the TKR[/QUOTE]

DITTO... no back pain before.. but have it now. PT says it's from the adjustment to your gait with your new knee... not sure how much I believe that.. but she is probably right.

I do know prior to surgery I had this "drop foot" thing going on besides being bone on bone.. and now that whole drop foot thing is gone... and I'm walking pretty normal. Hubby says he will see me limping occasionally but it's usually when I'm tiring out.

Let us know if you hear any other reasons for the back pain..
[QUOTE=dinojen;4204028]Hi Gater... Boy do I agree with you... yikes at no pain meds... tomorrow will be my 5th month anniversary... I can't believe it ... and I still have my little pink pleasure pills (darvocets) they work perfect for the days that I have done a little too much. AND.. I think you really need something for those bad nights that we all have.

Doing pretty well actually, some days are better than others.. but realized yesterday I could get in hubby's car now without having to go butt first..lol.
Went shopping yesterday for four hours... that's alot of walking... but wasn't horrible after we got home.. tolerable.

Doing tons of squats when I think about it and stretch in the shower and let the warm water hit the back of my knee... funny it still looks bigger than my other one... but it's not warm anymore like it use to be.

Can't wait to get in the pool... that is a for sure thing... some of you that do water exercises need to let me know what ones you do.. I've never done them before.

Still procrastinating about doing more exercise... told me boss the other day.. you get cocky after you can do things that you couldn't before and think I'm all better but inside my feeble little brain I'm thinking .. god what a slacker you are...

Oh.. one other question for you guys that went in about the same time I did.. Oct. 15. I noticed the other day when I was sitting on the sofa and when you flex your knee do you all hear like a crunching sound... doesn't hurt.. it just makes a noise and after you flex your knee a bunch of times it goes away.. I'm assuming it's scar tissue crunching around... anyone got a clue?

For all you newbie "bionic club members" Hang in there.. I hate that some of you are having a harder recovery than some of us had. I guess we were just very fortunate. Like I say... I can't believe tomorrow will be 5 mos... it's gone by so fast..

Hope everyone is doing well.. recovering... exercising...(do some for me while I'm being lazy...lol) and icing.. I use to tell my friend.. "google is my friend".. I have changed that to "icing is my best friend"

P.S. I found these really really cool little gel packs.. bought two of them and have them just in my refrigerator in my office at work... they are fantastic.. they get cool so well and I just wrap it around my knee if it's bothering me.. works great...

Will check back later... Need to read back and see how Grumpy is doing..

:wave:[/QUOTE]

Just came from "water PT". I start by walking forward and backward for 5-10 min. (The rest can be in any order). Then do side leg lifts for 25 reps; front kicks for 25 reps; Forward long steps to stretch the calves and thighs; Bicycling movement in water for 10 - 15 min; Step up and down on the step in the water (ours is 11 inches); Stand on step and do Squats in the water with both legs; squat on one leg then the other. (Start slowly on this one). Last cool down walking forward and backward for at least another 5 min. It helps if someone is there so you keep talking. The only problem is I sometimes end up doing too much then. But the time goes rapidly.

GOOD LUCK from a double bionic.
I haven't written for a long time because I thougth someone had reported my message as a bad post. I thought that because it has a little green light that seems to be "lit", just above the place where it says to report a bad post. I just went through a lot of messages to see if anyone else had these green lights. I have them on all of my messages. But so does Frannyia....in my computer, she has them on all of her posts too. What do they mean? If I offended anyone, I am so sorry. But I can't figure out what I did wrong. I thought it was only my last message, but now that I've gone back, I see that it is in all of my messages. I really like this site. There are so many useful posts. I am still having such a hard time. I am scheduled to go back to work next Monday and I don't see how that is humanly possible. We do not have "light duty" on my job. I either do the job or don't. I have lots of sick leave, so that isn't an issue. I've sort of reached the place where I am afraid I am never going to get better. I try to do a lot of exercises, every day. My knee is so stiff, so hard, so swollen, and from time to time, so painful. I am kind of in shock. I try not to get too depressed. It will be 8 weeks this coming Friday.
[QUOTE=frankly;4204560]
My knee is so stiff, so hard, so swollen, and from time to time, so painful. I am kind of in shock. I try not to get too depressed. It will be 8 weeks this coming Friday.[/QUOTE]

I know exactly what you feel like. I am 4 weeks out from mine and its seems like there is very little improvement for awhile then I'll notice something as simple as being able to roll in bed without feeling like its pulling apart. I discovered I can lay on my stomach for a little while. Not long enough to sleep but at least I can get the pressure off the the back and hip.

I am at 88 degree bend and 7 degree straight. I have no idea if thats the norm at this point.
[QUOTE=frankly;4204560]I haven't written for a long time because I thougth someone had reported my message as a bad post. I thought that because it has a little green light that seems to be "lit", just above the place where it says to report a bad post. I just went through a lot of messages to see if anyone else had these green lights. I have them on all of my messages. But so does Frannyia....in my computer, she has them on all of her posts too. What do they mean? If I offended anyone, I am so sorry. But I can't figure out what I did wrong. I thought it was only my last message, but now that I've gone back, I see that it is in all of my messages. I really like this site. There are so many useful posts. I am still having such a hard time. I am scheduled to go back to work next Monday and I don't see how that is humanly possible. We do not have "light duty" on my job. I either do the job or don't. I have lots of sick leave, so that isn't an issue. I've sort of reached the place where I am afraid I am never going to get better. I try to do a lot of exercises, every day. My knee is so stiff, so hard, so swollen, and from time to time, so painful. I am kind of in shock. I try not to get too depressed. It will be 8 weeks this coming Friday.[/QUOTE]

Frankly,

Don't get discouraged. I have had ACL, Rotator cuff, Hysterectomy, several broken bones and double bunionectomy (with horrible results), and they don't hold a candle to the TKR. My surgery was December 1st, and even though I had a good recovery it was the most painful surgery I have ever experienced. At 8 weeks I was still in a lot of pain. One thing. You need a good GP. Orthos don't really have much sympathy and will only give pain meds for a brief period. My GP filled me a script for pain. She was the first to inform me that Orthos were oblivious to pain. Keep working the knee everyday. I've seen several post on this board saying the old adage "no pain no gain" doesn't apply to TKR. I beg to differ. How is it possible to rehabilitate a bionic knee without pain?

Linda
[QUOTE=frankly;4205389]Linda and GaterGal....thanks for your replies. I am still on pain meds---vicodan.....which I feel is like next to nothing. I do think that one has to be very careful not to experience too much pain with this recovery. My first (at home) physical thearpist even told me that. I am having such an up and down recovery. I can do so much but I am still so worn out; my knee hurts so much; I never get a decent night's sleep; my knee gets so stiff, I can't do leg lifts. I feel like I am a failure. I am afraid I am not doing enough exercising. I try really hard to exercise off and on all day and then the next day, I am practically incapcitated. Today is one of my "bad" days and I am so miserable. I have an appointment with the surgeon's nurse practitioner, tomorrow. I am praying that he agrees that I am not ready to go back to work. I have another issue that probably doesn't help much--COPD. I figure it messes with my energy level. I can't walk very long with out having to sit down. I just want to throw myself down some place and cry and cry and cry. How silly is that?[/QUOTE]

It's not silly. What's silly is thinking you can recover from TKR in a heartbeat. I watched a video online before surgery just to be informed what was going to happen. I know most people would cringe at the thought, but I thought it was important to know what the doctors were going to do. It's not pretty, but it educated me to know this was no drop in the bucket. My husband thought I was gory. I knew that I would have excruciating pain in my quads and calfs because they have to cut into the muscles above and below the kneecap. It takes a long time for those muscles to rehab and heal. The only way to speed up the rehab is to work those muscles. That's why I say to those who say "no pain no gain" are foolish to believe such nonsense. Rehab can be painful, but rewarding when you can go up and down stairs like most people can;
Linda
does anyone have trouble with itching, from the frist day after the TKR, I have been itching alot, so they changed my pain killers, they tought it was making my skin too dry, itching was better, but no good enough, here at 5 months it is gettting worse again, I still use pain killers hydor 5-500 for back pain from the surgery, my guess is too much acetaminophen

back pain it getting better, weather is changing here, sometimes in sixties now, laid off job so no work, no money, no insurance, too old to hire and too young to retire

america, what a country:-)
[QUOTE=beerhunters;4206293]does anyone have trouble with itching, from the frist day after the TKR, I have been itching alot, so they changed my pain killers, they tought it was making my skin too dry, itching was better, but no good enough, here at 5 months it is gettting worse again, I still use pain killers hydor 5-500 for back pain from the surgery, my guess is too much acetaminophen

back pain it getting better, weather is changing here, sometimes in sixties now, laid off job so no work, no money, no insurance, too old to hire and too young to retire

america, what a country:-)[/QUOTE]

The Morphine in the pump makes me itch terribly,:dizzy:
I am at 6 weeks and having difficulty getting past 88 degrees. I have a tightness over my knee cap and the patellar tendon is still very thick. I still have swelling in my thigh above the knee as well. I have the feeling that my ham string is very tight behind my knee. It is drawn taunt and I can feel it protruding out the back of my knee. My other knee is not like that. When bending the knee I have pain in the back of my knee as well as to the inner front side of my knee cap. My therapist thinks I need to push past the pain. Besides the fear of doing damage to the knee from screaming my lungs out, how does on do that? I've been prescribed Darvocet which does nothing for the pain experienced in PT.

I see my surgeon this week and am wondering if manipulation is the thing I need to get past this point. I am afraid it will get worse the longer I wait.
Have any of you had this problem. Did you get past the pain or succum to manipulation under anesthesia?
[QUOTE=mzfitz40;4207974]I am at 6 weeks and having difficulty getting past 88 degrees. I have a tightness over my knee cap and the patellar tendon is still very thick. I still have swelling in my thigh above the knee as well. I have the feeling that my ham string is very tight behind my knee. It is drawn taunt and I can feel it protruding out the back of my knee. My other knee is not like that. When bending the knee I have pain in the back of my knee as well as to the inner front side of my knee cap. My therapist thinks I need to push past the pain. Besides the fear of doing damage to the knee from screaming my lungs out, how does on do that? I've been prescribed Darvocet which does nothing for the pain experienced in PT.

I see my surgeon this week and am wondering if manipulation is the thing I need to get past this point. I am afraid it will get worse the longer I wait.
Have any of you had this problem. Did you get past the pain or succum to manipulation under anesthesia?[/QUOTE]

I'm over 3 months out, but have been playing golf since the 2nd month. I did push past the pain. I also took long hot baths with pain killing salts and bent my knee back and forth until I could set with my arms wrapped around both knees with forehead to the knees. I held those positions for 1 minute for about 10-15 times pressing the knees closer each time. I can now do the runners stretch. I'm riding the exercise bike 30 minutes a day adjusted as close up as I can get it to the handlebars so that the knee has to bend more. It hurts in the beginning but after about 1 or 2 minutes the pain slowly subsides. Try adjusting it a little each day until you can ride with the knees almost touching the handlebars.

Good Luck,

Linda
Ok, I need help from all of you again. I have been having boughts of being way too hot. Almost like hot flashes of old. At first I thought I was running a temp but after checking several times, I don't think that's it. It happens off and on during the day and night. Could it be a reaction of one of the drugs? I don't see that on the side effects for vicadon or darvocet? Can anyone shed some light?

The good news is that I think overall, there is some improvement. I'm almost 11 weeks out.
[QUOTE=milliejs;4208847]Ok, I need help from all of you again. I have been having boughts of being way too hot. Almost like hot flashes of old. At first I thought I was running a temp but after checking several times, I don't think that's it. It happens off and on during the day and night. Could it be a reaction of one of the drugs? I don't see that on the side effects for vicadon or darvocet? Can anyone shed some light?

The good news is that I think overall, there is some improvement. I'm almost 11 weeks out.[/QUOTE]

Vicodin gives me hot flashes... my face gets kind of flush.. so my surgeon gave me a prescription of darvocet and no reaction like I get from the vicodin..

I'm five months out and hadn't asked for a refill since Dec... and I was running low.. so I called the pharmacy and asked for a refill, I was wondering if he would do it and he did.. thank god... I use them occasionally when I really need them. I love my surgeon...

Might try a different pain med... but all I know is I get the hot flashes from Vicodin.. hope that helps

Glad to hear you are coming along.:wave:
[QUOTE=dinojen;4209046]Vicodin gives me hot flashes... my face gets kind of flush.. so my surgeon gave me a prescription of darvocet and no reaction like I get from the vicodin..
QUOTE]

Hi Dinojen....thanks for the input....I thought I was losing my marbles LOL....I will give surgeons office a call...I have darvocet too but they don't seem to do anything to really help....they gave me some highpowered ibuprofen to help with swelling but they don't seem to help with the pain....the vicodins do help...so..we'll see what can be done. Thanks again....hope you are doing better also.
I would hate to try to do 2 knees at a time. Both of mine are bad, but I'll do them one at a time. Is there no medication for your thyroid that will help with the weight? I was 30 lbs. overweight due to inactivity from the knees. I can now ride the stationary bike for 30 minutes a day and have lost 20 lbs since my surgery Dec 1st. I hope you can lose some of the weight before the surgery. It will be so much easier for you. My doctor said about a year before the surgery while we were trying shots, minor surgery, all the conservative things you do to prevent TKR, that the stationary bike was the only aerobic exercise that was acceptable for knees. I was such a slug at the time though, all I wanted to do was wait for the TKR. This, coming from a serial exerciser. I taught step classes, low impact aerobics and Pilates for years in my 30's to 50's. I now am back to my exercise addiction.

When is your surgery? Keep in mind that although the recovery will be brutal, you will feel so much better and wonder why you ever waited so long.

Linda
[QUOTE=cmason75;4210147]:I was told today that I need total knee replacement of both knees. I have thryoid problems and currently weigh 315 lbs. I want to lose weight before surgery because I don't think it will do any good if I don't. I have a great doctor that understands how much they hurt. I take 4 10mg percocet a day and at least I can still get around without my walker. I am 50 years old and am not excited about the thought of both knees being replaced.:)[/QUOTE]

I just had mine done 5 weeks ago today. I will be 50 in a few months weighted in at 312 at time of surgery, have lost 15 lbs so far. So I celebrated being under the 300 mark.
Recovery is tough. I had arthoscopic surgery on my left knee in November so it would be strong enough to handle the strain of having the right TKR. It has done well.
Lucky for me my bone was hard enough to have the replacement joint with the metal mesh which will allow the bone to grow into the posts making for a sturdier knee and less chance of it losening up in 10 years.
I remained fairly mobile up until the surgery. No range of motion issues just swelling and pain when doing alot of walking or weight bearing activities. These things I was told will make a differentce in how you recover.

I did have a point where I wasn't sure this was such a smart thing to have done. But I am over that wand was able to break through the pain last week to finally reach a 93 degree bend after being stuck at 88 for 2 weeks.

Having this site to compare my recovery and get information from others going through it has been priceless.
i've just been told by my surgeon that i need to have total knee replacemant surgery on my left knee. i have been a letter carrier for the last 24 years. i had a torn meniscus with arthoscopic surgery 3 years ago. my surgeon then told me that replacement surgery would be in my future. i've tried everything to postpone this surgery, injections, antinflamatories etc. just wanted to know if it is possible to wear out the new knee from walking too much. i walk 7 to 8 miles a day delivering mail. just wondering if i can continue to do my job

thanks
[QUOTE=mzfitz40;4216139]Now at 6 weeks. I have finally reached a flex of 100 degrees. However, the stretch by PT was so bad this week that I could not sleep or do anything the next day. It was so swollen I sat with it iced all day. Extention is only at 4. I have 3 more weeks of PT and hope to make it to 120 degree flex and 0 extention. It is still very painful with use and PT is a killer but I am progressing. Dr gave me darvocet for pain which is pretty much useless. A mood elevator perhaps but nothing for pain. I 've decided to stop trying to sleep at night.I'm going to try breaking my day into thirds to see if I can get enough cat naps to get me through this sleepless period. Very tired of being tired and it effects my mood considerably. I too thought I'd be better than I am at this point. It doesn't help to see those on this list who are contemplating skiing at 8 weeks out.
I've been told time and time again to stop gauging my self to others we all do it at our own pace. I think alot of the anxiety could be reduced it they would just tell us honestly what the recovery is actually like, instead of us having to find others who have /or are going through it for our eduation.[/QUOTE]

Hi Mzfitz - Hang in there - I agree - skiing???
I am at 10 weeks - and at about 115 and almost to 0 (but haven't had a measurement lately - PT like to eyeball it and only measures just before Doc visits) I have no problem doing her exercises, but then I get home from PT and sleep for 2-3 hours. And lots of muscle pain later and the next day. I still have highs and lows, some days I feel practically normal for a while and think that I am over the hump, but then later the pain starts again and I have no stamina - still taking 3-4 norco a day which might have something to do with it. The pain is less than before surgery, and I feel better but still not myself. I am getting a little more sleep at night, but like last night went to bed a midnight (with a norco and half an ambien), woke up at 3 and watched TV for an hour or so then back to sleep until 8:00am, waking up to look at the clock occassionally. My leg gets so stiff at times. So I can relate to how you are feeling. It does get better, but a 10 weeks I would have thought I would be further along...I have been told 3 months is real turning point - I hope so...

A morale booster for me is that there are a couple of ladies at my PT who had surgery months before me and are way behind me in flex and extension - they are really struggling and a real morale booster for me - not nice I know, but I'm a little mean... So as we keep being told, recovery is differtent for all of us. I agree about being tired of being tired and of hurting. If I had not had this website, I would have thought that something was seriously wrong with my recovery, because no one (not even my wonderful Doc who I love) tells you what it's going to be like.
Nap when you can and keep working at it. We will get there! Grumpy
[QUOTE=purple161616;4215427]i've just been told by my surgeon that i need to have total knee replacemant surgery on my left knee. i have been a letter carrier for the last 24 years. i had a torn meniscus with arthoscopic surgery 3 years ago. my surgeon then told me that replacement surgery would be in my future. i've tried everything to postpone this surgery, injections, antinflamatories etc. just wanted to know if it is possible to wear out the new knee from walking too much. i walk 7 to 8 miles a day delivering mail. just wondering if i can continue to do my job

thanks[/QUOTE]

you should have problem doing your job, walking is good for the knee
Thanks Barb and silver swan for your words of incouragement. I to walk with a cane and can not stand in one spot for any length of time. If I go shopping with my wife my knees and back start to hurt so bad I have to to sit out in the car. I'am not much fun for her but she has been great. I always feel like my body does not want to maccept these artifical knees. I've talked to local people before having this procedure and one guy even said that it was a piece of cake, wait till I see him again. My range of motion is good in the mid 120 but I am always in pain with no stamina in my knees and legs. Making things worst is that I also need a right hip replacement sometime in the future. But I well never have that done unless I recover from this and maybe nit then either.
Thanks again for your post to me I appreciate it. I have PT today which seems to be a waste of time. I'am getting tired of feeling so worthless around the house good thing I'am retired. Thanks again for your replies.
Dear Hank:
It is OK to vent about your pain, discomfort, and discouragement. Gets it off one's chest!

Thank you for your kind words.

My late husband had polio at age 17 and I learned a lot from watching him deal with his challenges. He died just about a month short of age 85. He was a lawyer and community activist. I figured if he could do it, I could too!

Shirley H.
[QUOTE=GaterGal;4218583]Actually, in the last day or two it's like a switch went on and I see real progress. I'm 5 months on the L knee and almost 2 months on the R. Still stiffness, of course, but a little massage with cocoa butter and Vitamin E really helps. I'm takng 1 hydrocodone in the evening and morning with Tylenol 2x daily. I'm winding down on the drugs. Not ready to drive yet. Got in the spa yesterday and will be doing that more often. And I got a pedal, thanks to this forum, and do 20 min. in the evening watching TV. I think I' over the first major hump! Lesson to all it gets better! G, how about you?[/QUOTE]

At 10 1/2 weeks on rt knee, it's all kind of based on when I have PT. Morning of PT it's usually pretty good, the exercise feels good and is doable - but later - oh boy- the aching kicks in. Next day is bad, then I have a good day and then back to PT and it starts over again.
I'm taking about 3 hydrocodone a day, but try to space them out so I can drive the 10 minutes to my mom's nursing home, see her, then drive back, take a pill. The rest of the time, I let my husband drive me. She is at the stage in Alzheimer's where each day it is questionable whether she will know me or not. Seeing what the disease has done to her makes a TKR seem pretty trivial.

Now that the weather is getting nice, I try to warm up the spa or get in the tub - usually a couple of times a day. I am getting tired of being tired or hurting, but the ROM is improving and I can do all sorts of things that I haven't done in years. Yesterday, I got in a lounge chair we have that I hadn't been able to get up from for at least 3 years. So things are improving! I keep hearing that 3 months post op is a major time for improvement. Hope so...

Gater - are you in FL too? Haven't heard from Matter or JerseyBoy lately - Jersey ought to be getting home pretty soon -

Happy Easter. Grumpy
[QUOTE=Grumpyathome;4218606]At 10 1/2 weeks on rt knee, it's all kind of based on when I have PT. Morning of PT it's usually pretty good, the exercise feels good and is doable - but later - oh boy- the aching kicks in. Next day is bad, then I have a good day and then back to PT and it starts over again.
I'm taking about 3 hydrocodone a day, but try to space them out so I can drive the 10 minutes to my mom's nursing home, see her, then drive back, take a pill. The rest of the time, I let my husband drive me. She is at the stage in Alzheimer's where each day it is questionable whether she will know me or not. Seeing what the disease has done to her makes a TKR seem pretty trivial.

Now that the weather is getting nice, I try to warm up the spa or get in the tub - usually a couple of times a day. I am getting tired of being tired or hurting, but the ROM is improving and I can do all sorts of things that I haven't done in years. Yesterday, I got in a lounge chair we have that I hadn't been able to get up from for at least 3 years. So things are improving! I keep hearing that 3 months post op is a major time for improvement. Hope so...

Gater - are you in FL too? Haven't heard from Matter or JerseyBoy lately - Jersey ought to be getting home pretty soon -

Happy Easter. Grumpy[/QUOTE]

Can't believe you are 10 1/2 weeks already.. probably seems longer to you though.
Glad to hear you are doing so well..
It's amazing how each month you see things getting better and your ability to do things that you weren't able to do before surgery.
Went back to therapy.. have it twice a week at 9:30. New therapist.. much better than first. She also suggested when sitting in a chair put your leg behind you for a while several times a day.. it will really help your ROM. Mine is at 118 but she said she would like to see a little more and that it shouldn't be problem so I've been doing that at work and the new exercises she gave me to work on the quads and my balance. Otherwise.. I have no complaints at all.

Anxious to hear from Jersey too.. wonder how it all went.

Are both you and Gater in Florida... all my kids live in Navarre up in the panhandle.. long way away from California..:(


Hope everyone is having a great Easter... will check back later..
[QUOTE=GaterGal;4218892]G, Tampa Bay area south. How about you? It has been too cold to get in the pool for water therapy, but we turned on the solar today so maybe I can swim this week. That would feel so good on the knees.[/QUOTE]

Windermere - a suburb of Orlando and about 20 mins from the mouse.
Hi to all my good tkr friends and new thr friends,:wave:
All is well. It is Monday evening and the hip surgery is over. It went very well. The anethesioligist suggested a spinal for this one and I said I was OK with that. I was awake the whole time, had a great recovery room experience and all went well in the hospital.. I got home on Friday late afternoon, was really tired Sat. Went for a walk outside Sat. in our 70 degree weather(very strange for Illinois) before Easter dinner. :cool: The family brought in food for Easter at our house with two daughters and 5 grandkids under 8 doing most of the work. It was a wonderful day. Today I started with the nurse from a home care agency(blood draws etc. due to warfarin meds) and will have pt tomorrow with a person from the home care agency. All in all it has been a great experence. I am stiff and sore, tired and lethargic, but I am glad it is all over with.:p
Thanks for all your good wishes. It is because of the great info on these boards that I felt confident enough to face all of this head on. :angel:
[QUOTE=Jeanob;4219605]Hi to all my good tkr friends and new thr friends,:wave:
All is well. It is Monday evening and the hip surgery is over. It went very well. The anethesioligist suggested a spinal for this one and I said I was OK with that. I was awake the whole time, had a great recovery room experience and all went well in the hospital.. I got home on Friday late afternoon, was really tired Sat. Went for a walk outside Sat. in our 70 degree weather(very strange for Illinois) before Easter dinner. :cool: The family brought in food for Easter at our house with two daughters and 5 grandkids under 8 doing most of the work. It was a wonderful day. Today I started with the nurse from a home care agency(blood draws etc. due to warfarin meds) and will have pt tomorrow with a person from the home care agency. All in all it has been a great experence. I am stiff and sore, tired and lethargic, but I am glad it is all over with.:p
Thanks for all your good wishes. It is because of the great info on these boards that I felt confident enough to face all of this head on. :angel:[/QUOTE]

I didn't know you were having THR! Sounds like it is a tad easier than the knees? Glad it went well for you!
[QUOTE=Grumpyathome;4218606].........Now that the weather is getting nice, I try to warm up the spa or get in the tub - usually a couple of times a day. I am getting tired of being tired or hurting, but the ROM is improving and I can do all sorts of things that I haven't done in years. Yesterday, I got in a lounge chair we have that I hadn't been able to get up from for at least 3 years. So things are improving! I keep hearing that 3 months post op is a major time for improvement. Hope so...
Grumpy[/QUOTE]

GAH.....you have absolutely no idea how much I enjoy your posts and how much I learn from them....I am at 12weeks and am finally beginning to feel like a human being again. I am still taking vicadons but less of them...still having some trouble with the knee swelling which in turn causes more pain. I am close to being dishcharged from PT. I have exercises that I do at home, and someone donated a schwin airdyne bike for me to use so I do ~10 min a day (most days) and I am using the warm water therapy pool 3 or 4 times a week. It all helps. [U]Now a new thing has cropped up. I have developed a scaly patch on my knee.. it is just below the knee cap and to the right side of the scar. [/U]Have you heard anyone else having this. I absolutely do not want to call the dr's office again unless I absolutely have no choice. I'm sure they think I am paranoid as it is LOL.

Hope everyone is doing ok
[QUOTE=milliejs;4219744]GAH.....you have absolutely no idea how much I enjoy your posts and how much I learn from them....I am at 12weeks and am finally beginning to feel like a human being again. I am still taking vicadons but less of them...still having some trouble with the knee swelling which in turn causes more pain. I am close to being dishcharged from PT. I have exercises that I do at home, and someone donated a schwin airdyne bike for me to use so I do ~10 min a day (most days) and I am using the warm water therapy pool 3 or 4 times a week. It all helps. [U]Now a new thing has cropped up. I have developed a scaly patch on my knee.. it is just below the knee cap and to the right side of the scar. [/U]Have you heard anyone else having this. I absolutely do not want to call the dr's office again unless I absolutely have no choice. I'm sure they think I am paranoid as it is LOL.

Hope everyone is doing ok[/QUOTE]

Hi - sounds like we are at similiar places in recovery, I almost feel normal at times and then I twist funny and then I remember - except for the scaly patch. Haven't heard of that before... Is it itchy? Are you putting cream or vitamin E on your scar and knee? That might help... Could be from the chlorine in the pool - I know that our YMCA therapy pool uses a lot of chlorine which can be very drying. If it continues, I'd ask the Doc - paranoid or not. You might ask your PT - I know that my PT sees a lot and is very knowledgeable about wound care.

Today I had PT and so far, and it 12:30 AM, the pain and ache is pretty low (sometimes the pain meds don't take care of it but today they have). I have taken 3 norcos today ( which is one less than I can) and tomorrow if it's feeling good, I will try cutting them in half. But I take it one day at a time and try and do a little more each day. I see my Doc during PT on Thursday so I am hoping that my extension and Flex will have improved.

The swelling has never been too much of a problem - my surgical knee is a little more swollen than the other, but not as bad as before surgery. I do ice at least once a day if not more with my gel wrap.

Good luck with the scaly patch - let me know what you find out. Grumpy
[QUOTE=milliejs;4219744 I have developed a scaly patch on my knee.. it is just below the knee cap and to the right side of the scar.


I think I have what you are talking about. a few inches down from the scar and a few inches out. I remember noticeing a hard lump after surgery there I assumed it was a blot clot, perhaps caused by someone holding too firmly on my calf. I also had hand prints which were visible allover my legs following surgery. Anyway, I have developed a hard, discolored and somewhat dry patch where this hard lump was. I suffer slight edema in my calves and believe this is a result from the combined effects.
[QUOTE=Grumpyathome;4219768]Hi - sounds like we are at similiar places in recovery, I almost feel normal at times and then I twist funny and then I remember - except for the scaly patch. Haven't heard of that before... Is it itchy? Are you putting cream or vitamin E on your scar and knee? That might help... Could be from the chlorine in the pool - I know that our YMCA therapy pool uses a lot of chlorine which can be very drying. If it continues, I'd ask the Doc - paranoid or not. You might ask your PT - I know that my PT sees a lot and is very knowledgeable about wound care.

Today I had PT and so far, and it 12:30 AM, the pain and ache is pretty low (sometimes the pain meds don't take care of it but today they have). I have taken 3 norcos today ( which is one less than I can) and tomorrow if it's feeling good, I will try cutting them in half. But I take it one day at a time and try and do a little more each day. I see my Doc during PT on Thursday so I am hoping that my extension and Flex will have improved.

The swelling has never been too much of a problem - my surgical knee is a little more swollen than the other, but not as bad as before surgery. I do ice at least once a day if not more with my gel wrap.

Good luck with the scaly patch - let me know what you find out. Grumpy[/QUOTE]


Went to the warm water therapy pool this afternoon and when I was leaving I saw my dry land physical therapist and asked him to look at my knee. He thought maybe the water alsol. He recommended Gold Bond lotion and said if it gets any bigger after using the lotion to go see my family doc. He didn't think the surgeon would really pay much attention to it. So that is my plan for now. Grumpy, when did u have your surgery. I know you said but I don't remember. Actually, I don't remember much about the first two months LOL. And I have to ask...what are norco's?????
milliejs - My surgery was Jan 19,'10. Norcos are hydrocodone and 325mg of tylenol - they come with diffent amounts of hydrocodone - mine is 7.5 mg. Not as strong as percocet. So this morning I took a 1/2 of one. then went to take some measurements of the room my mother is moving into from her asst. living room into the memory care unit. So I wasn't expecting to be doing much - I got there, and suddenly today turns into moving day. So I was walking back and forth from one end of the nursing home to the other caring stuff - more walking than I've done since before surgery. So I am exhausted, not to mention the mental exhaustion trying to explain to my mother why we were moving her to a new room (it's a locked area, so the dynamics are different - but her condition necessitates the change)
Needless to say I took a whole norco when I got home and my leg really aches...

Hope the gold bond works - let us know. Grumpy
OMG - I so feel for you! My mother died about 13 yrs. ago from Alsheimers (sp.) To be doing the surgery recovery plus the "taking care of mother" deal is tough. Hang in there.
:DI am finally at my 8th week. I can easily bend at 100 degrees and get more after the therapist stretches me. I still have a tightness and a pinching pain in my knee which hasn't seemed to lessen. I am told my knee has nothing keeping it from bending further but the pain. The Therapist feels sure that it will come once the pain issue is resolved. I see the surgeon next week but feel I am over the hump and feel confident he will release me to my own devices.

The pain through out the normal daily activities is much less and I find I am only taking pain relievers before going to bed or in the middle of the night when it starts throbbing. Its always much worse after PT day.

A call to my brother today revealed he too is going to have a TKR probably next month. We all inherited our great grandmothers knock knees and our great grandfathers height. Out of 6 siblings, we have all had arthroscopy to our knees. I started that trend now it appears I have started another.lol
today is 6 months to the day, knee is working fine, pain goes with activities, first time I mowed the lawn this year, it had a good workout 6000 sq ft of lawn, dont know how much I walked but it was alot, 57 years old

the front and outside of left knee still have some numbness, the scare is sensitive, biggest problem I still have is my back from the surgery, the day after my ribs were sticking out, the surgery messed with my back alignment, the pain killers I use are for that, when it gets too bad the hips and legs hurt alot

when I go to the chiropractor and he puts me back in alignment I am great until it happens again
:wave: Hi there BearSher! Thank you for your kind words. I,too, came across this site from Google & I just can not say it enought: it has been my lifesaver! I can't begin to name the folks that have inspired me & made me feel as though they were writing to me -- Grumpy @ Home for sure, beerhunter, msfitz, I should have scrolled back through & written names down ~ Sorry for those I didn't name as you all have made this journey bearable. No matter what time of the day or how I'm feeling -- this is where I go. My family & friends have been so kind & supportive but after the 2nd month they were ready to move on. Now when I meet people who are post op -- not necessary knees or hips -- I am so more sympathetic & understanding. Healing takes time and will not be rushed! Good luck -- next week right? We'll be thinking of you & look forward to hearing how it goes!

Kelly in Alaska




[QUOTE=BearSher;4222883]Hello Everyone! :wave: I came across this site by chance on Google and am so happy I did! I just spent the last SEVERAL hours reading all the messages. I have much to learn, and some notes are inspiring and some are a bit frightening. I am scheduled for double knee replacement on April 20th. I had hoped to put off this surgery until the fall, but one of my bad knees just gave out on me crossing the street and have been in pain for the last two weeks.:eek: Now I just want to get things started and hope to get back to living a "life" again someday. Alaskelly, your letter was so inspiring for me and just wanted to thank you for your positive attitude!! :angel: Anyone that I tell that I'm having a double knee replacement is HORRIFIED! Had me thinking I was making the wrong decision, but after talking with my regular physician and the Rehabilitation Director, I do feel a bit better about it. Wish me luck and I'll continue watching for all of the wonderful achievements.[/QUOTE]
Hi Alaskelly and other bionic buddies- wow I am so flattered that you have gained something from my posts - because for me this is therapy. It is 4:57 AM and I've been awake since around 3:00. Tried to treat this like a normal day used to be, plus riding on the recumbent bike and doing the leg press - so, I guess I did too much. Leg is swollen and achy. Tried a bath, reading, now decided to chat with you all. I'd been sleeping pretty well until the last few nights, (allergy season in FL) and doing too much.
It's been 3 months, but I have to remember that it's healing from the inside out. (my tibia aches). My husband has decided that I'm cured, but then when I moan or groan he gets upset with me for doing too much - but he want business as usual, just without me showing any pain. I do agree that most people feel that by month 2, you should be done and they are over it. It's a catch 22. Still taking tylenol and leaving the Norco alone - I was sorely tempted tonight about an hour ago, but took the tylenol instead. Also took half an ambien at bedtime, but apparently it only worked for half the night.

Other than this, I am feeling great, Still don't think my extension and flex is all it could be, but I'm working on it. Like Dinojen, I can be a slacker.... but I'm trying to get on track. don't want to go backward.

BearSher - there are days that I wish that I had had both legs done at the same time - but my left leg was in a whole lot better shape, so I will have to wait a while and the go through this in a couple of years. The recovery will be tougher and a little different than us singles, but it will be done! I could use my non-surgical leg to help me, but if legs are equally bad, you wouldn't have that advantage anyway. So get your home and caregivers ready, rest, exercise, eat what you can, drink lots of water, and take your meds. When you need to go off ( I was on them for 3 months -starting at 12 percocets a day eventually tapering down to none - but will use them ocassionally on really bad days) Good luck, and you can console me in a couple of years when I am going through this again. Grumpyathome
Grumpy, I have just made it to my 8th week and have been suprised how much less pain I have except when trying to bend it further. I take a few tylenol at night to sleep except for days I have PT and then its a swollen hot knee from hell. Ice and drugs help me to sleep but like you it takes awhile for it to settle down. It was really bad Monday when they added more weight, and moved the incumbent bike up another notch all after a good stretching. It didn't feel bad at the time and I love a good work out BUT It took me two days to recover from Mondays therapy and I cancelled Wednesday's appointment even though I continued my exercises at home.

I am curious as to where your tendon or ligament is rubbing? The ligament in the back of my knee is very tight and I have not gotten to 0 extention. My flexation is only at 100 and I can't seem to get any further without stretching and it then returns to 100. The skin over the center of my scar doesn't seem to glide over the knee as it bends. Its so very tight and I use cocoa butter several times aday. My PT tells me he isn't worried that I won't reach my goal and that it is only the pain that is keeping me from getting there now. So as the next few weeks go by I will be anxious to see if he is right. I will be released from both the Dr's care and PT next friday.

My brother has decided its time for him to have his knee done. I've tried to fill him in prepare him a little for what is to come. He's not afraid of the pain and is looking forward to being able to walk again. I am just beginning to see the light through the tunnel and it is good. I wish you well!
:bouncing: Its been a few weeks since I've posted my latest observations with my new replacement. I am 11 weeks out and have been released from PT for almost 2 weeks. I don't see the Dr again for a year. I am having much less pain and am noticing that I am getting really good ROM on one day but not the next. I believe it is from over use on the good days. I managed to get into a tub of very warm water the other night and pull my knee up as far as the good one bends. I had not been able to do that before. The grocery store is still a drag and I am swollen when I have finished getting around the whole store. I tend to be a side sleeper and I am still waking in the night several times with throbbing in the knee. I've been using tylenol but think I'm going to get a bottle of Aleive to see if that might work better.
I've been doing gardening and the typical household stuff. Since I have the laundry in the basement and the bathroom is on the second floor I have a lot of stairs to climb in a day. I try to make the most of my trips by keeping a list of what I need to do on each floor and organizing myself accordingly. I still groan and moan but its getting better everyday and I was feeling pretty skeptical. For the new comers here, " Keep the faith", It does get better. Shoot I can almost imagine having the other one done...nah, not yet!
[QUOTE=beerhunters;4227447]I got an infraction for posting a web site you can go to to get ice packs for your knee, so do not post web site addresses

I used them and they were a huge help, your knee is so hot, they are about envelope size #10, I put one on top and one on bottom of knee, in about an hour maybe less the top ice pack melts, sometimes now after 6 months I still have a hot knee, it comes and goes

I get alot of popping when I put pressure on the joint like going up the stairs, does anyone at 6 months or so, get the popping?[/QUOTE]

Hi there, yes I get sort of a clunk click especially when just starting to walk, had knee replacement Nov 09 also noticed lots of swelling and tightness lately but have been trying to carry on as normal eg walking cycling and poss not resting enough, feels really strange at times and others can also hear it at times, also feels like a there is a lot of plastic bags, only way I can describe it making a horrible scrunching noise esp when cycling, am I alone in this,but all in all nowhere near the pain I experienced before the op but am looking toward the time when I can just do things normally without thinking about it or feeling the consequences when I dont. good luck all and best wishes from England.
[QUOTE=davebeemster;4242934]I am at 18 weeks tkr of the left knee and working in the trades full time. I have been back to work for 6 weeks and I AM STILL GETTING A LOT OF SWELLING. is this normal for someone who is on their feet for 12 hours a day. I still have pain too. does any else feel this way?[/QUOTE]

I'm 6 months Post-op and still have swelling. There's fluid on the right side that goes away with the ice machine they sent me home with. I fall asleep with it on every night. I also have popping from time to time but only have pain when I over-do. I just started injections in my left knee hoping to stave off TKR on that one a little while longer. I really don't want to go through this again. I also started acupuncture. My Ortho gave me the name of a licensed one for a wrist problem as well as other pains I'm having. The wrist needs surgery also, but will require 3 months in a cast and I'm not doing that in the hot Texas Summer.

Anyone had any success with acupuncture?

Linda
[QUOTE=milliejs;4243784]I am just sitting here reading thru the last few posts and feeling kinda down. I am almost 17 weeks out and my knee still hurts. I had some vicadins left over and am still using them at least once a day, plus either darvocet or ibuprofins also. I am so tired of my knee hurting. I have good ROM and straightening. I can walk pretty good, can go up and down steps (foot over foot). I am driving. But, nevertheless, it still HURTS. I am still icing, alternating with heat. I've had 5 chiropracter appts where she has been manipulating the knee cap area. And still...it is tight. We are supposed to be driving to Las Vegas next week for our daughter's wedding and I am in total dread. Ok, I guess I am thru complaining and whining...at least for tongiht. I appreiate you'all listening.[/QUOTE]

I just had my 4 month check up - got a great report from my Doc - she was very happy with my flex, extension and how I'm walking. But as I complained about pain to her (as I sit here and type, I have on an ice gel wrap and have just taken 2 arthritis tylenol) she kept reminding me that it takes a year to heal. I complained about swelling and my knee still feeling hot and she again said that it takes a year to heal. So I guess it takes a year to heal.... You just feel that after 4 months you should be back to normal. But then I have to remember that I haven't been normal for years.

For those of you back to full time work, I don't know how you do it. I can do a lot more than I used to, but no way could I stay on my feet for 12 hours. More power to you.

Grumpy
I had mine on Nov. 17 and can ride my bike 30+ miles, walk but can't do the steps foot over foot. Pain at night and sleep with a small pillow between my knees. I'm in heavy pain from a tendon/ligament rubbing on the implant. I'm waiting till Sept. to do something about it. Just can't do any more pain and rehab. right now.
You guys are incredible. I had arthroscopy surgery on my left knee in November and the TKR on the right in February. Both knees are week but I am back doing almost as much as I did before the surgeries. I have an issue where I still feel like a tendon is pulled tight from the out back of my knee running all the way to my ankle. When I force the knee flat with stretching I get a sharp pinch on the upward bend. When I relax the leg my ankle doesn't want to drop like a normal ankle does on its own. If I make it go in that position I feel a tightness all the way up and behind my knee. There is no real pain except the pinch. Anyone else have this happen?
I also feel like the knee is not "hinged" equally on both sides. When I walk it comes forward on a outward swing. I am getting more flexation and extension than a few weeks ago. BUT I have turned down an invitation to my nephews wedding which is over a 3 hrs drive both ways.

Having difficulties sleeping but a little better than before. I've been wanting to go to Ireland and have to get strong for that. I pulled out my Tony Little gazel for lazy/ rainy days. I live in a very hilly area and sometimes the hills are just too much. Has anyone used one of his machines since thier surgery? I don't have access to a bike, hot tub or pool.

Sleepless along the Susquehanna
[QUOTE=corgi02;4226896]Heh BearSher,
This is the best site for making friends who know what you are talking about, and also to compare what you are feeling so that you don't feel you are alone or going crazy. NO ONE can really know what this is like unless they have been there and done that, so to speak. The posts about what you should have ready for when you get home, etc are excellent. I wish that they would have been written when I had my surgery. They are right on. The best advice I can give you is measure your progress by the week, not by the day or you will feel you haven't progressed at all. When you start stacking up the weeks and looking back, you will be so happy and surprised.
Not kidding, this is hard tough work to get down this road, but it will be so worth it. Good luck to you. We will be thinking of you, let us know how you are.[/QUOTE]

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Hi All: :wave:

Just an update to tell you that I had a very successful Bi-lateral surgery April 20th and came home on the 13th after staying at a WONDERFUL rehabilitation home for my 20 (Medicare) days. I've been very fortunate not to have a lot of pain and try not to take any pain killers, except for before PT. The most troubling problem...even more than the knees...was constipation from the Norco!! :eek: Horrible experience!! If anyone is contemplating the surgery, all I can say is the "ANTICIPATION" is worse than the actual surgery. I couldn't imagine being away from home for all that time, but the time goes quickly and I think that is the major rehab time! They really kept me busy with 2 PT and 1 OT, plus an hour each leg on the CPM machine. There were several ladies that didn't want to stay and went home against the PT's wishes. I hope they don't regret it down the road. I now have home health for a couple of weeks and then have to look into rehabilitation places close to home.
Still looking at all the new posts and will keep in touch. Thanks for all your well wishes pre-op!!
BearSher
i am 6 days post surgical for a Total Knee Replacement . I am having HELL so many problems. Firstly I have had lowgrade fevers from the day after surgery until now. Behind my knee the pain is excruitiating and left the hospital on the 16th of May. Surgery was on the 13th of May. Today is the 19th of May and I have the following things to report. Please review and see if anyone experienced any of thease things. Any Suggestions and comments welcomed.

1. lowgrade fevers since surgery
2. yeast infection due to iv antibiotics in the hosp
3. need to not only take coumadin but also a blood thinner shot.
4. urine has some blood in it.....reddish brown urine probably from the blood thinners
5. severe pain behind knee... extension is -8
6. not so much pain on kneecap
7. can flex upon leaving the hosp at 90% with assistance.
8. Been able to walk well with walker, sit, stand, with minimal pain
9. lotz of swelling to surgical site.
10. can lift leg on bed without assistance with some pain.
11. Can only take tylenol 3 i throw up from everything else
12. appetite is bad
13. tired all the time
14. constipated

Just to mention a few things.....

Please help
Dear Nervous,

Unfortunalty, what you are experienceing is par for the course. I am only 3 months oout from the surgery so I can remember all the pain yet. You probably have the blood in the urine from the catheter, the infection could also be a result of the same. Drink plenty of water. Cranberry juice will help.

The loss of appettite is common as is the constipation. Try enema's of warm water to keep even a little moving and in a few days take a few correctol. I found I had to do this for several weeks just to be able to go. I never waited more than 4 days. If I didn't go I took one correctol. Worked like a charm without a lot of stomach pain. Cause lets face pain is something you don't need more of at this point.

You should be on more than tylenol. It is not enough for the pain especially after PT or at night. Talk to your Dr to get something stronger. There are a lot of options. If you are sticking with the 3 tylenol every 4-6 hrs add 2Ibuprophen half way through and keep them staggered. Thats what my Dr prescribed and it helped after I came off the heavy meds. ANd remember to always ICE , ICE , ICE. I would got to bed with my ice packs and leave them on until the middle of the night and then switch them out for a fresh set.
I also was so exhausted I started to sleep 3-4 hour a few times aday instead of trying to sleep 8 hours. It hurt less to lay a shorter period of time and I slept better because the pain meds lasted through this shorter stretch.

I had more pain in the back of my knee then the front. You will learn that is because they cut nerves and the numbness on the outer side of the knee will take a long time to get better. As nerves mend you'll experience new twinges of pain. As the swelling goes down the knee may feel less steady. It takes time to build the muscles back up. The thigh muscle which was split takes a long time to heal and strengthen back up. The swelling is going to be there for a long time.

I also took Coumadin and Lovenox shots. But only for about 2 weeks total. I went to a rehab facility for 7 days after the surgery. I insisted on this because my insurance covered it and I had no one to care for me once at home. I too could pretty much get around like you but even after a week of daily PT I was only at abaout 80 degree bend and I think 18 degree extention.
After 2 months(3x a week) of PT I managed between 100-105 degree bend and between 4-5 degree flex. I only recently began going up and down the stairs foot over foot instead on on foot at a time. This all takes time and they don't prepare you for all the pain and hard work ahead of you. But hang in there it does get easier and you will do better. Go ahead and cry when you need to and don't be embarassed if its in front of anyone. This is probably one of the hardest things you'll ever do. Its frustrating because its it takes so long to see progress and when you do it will be in small incriments. Celebrate them!. And NO ONE who hasn't gone through this will come close to understanding what you're going through and most of us loose our supporters after a few weeks. Thats whats so great about this site, We're here for each other!

Hope this helps!
Melissa
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[QUOTE=nervous12345;4249257]i am 6 days post surgical for a Total Knee Replacement . I am having HELL so many problems. Firstly I have had lowgrade fevers from the day after surgery until now. Behind my knee the pain is excruitiating and left the hospital on the 16th of May. Surgery was on the 13th of May. Today is the 19th of May and I have the following things to report. Please review and see if anyone experienced any of thease things. Any Suggestions and comments welcomed.

1. lowgrade fevers since surgery
2. yeast infection due to iv antibiotics in the hosp
3. need to not only take coumadin but also a blood thinner shot.
4. urine has some blood in it.....reddish brown urine probably from the blood thinners
5. severe pain behind knee... extension is -8
6. not so much pain on kneecap
7. can flex upon leaving the hosp at 90% with assistance.
8. Been able to walk well with walker, sit, stand, with minimal pain
9. lotz of swelling to surgical site.
10. can lift leg on bed without assistance with some pain.
11. Can only take tylenol 3 i throw up from everything else
12. appetite is bad
13. tired all the time
14. constipated

Just to mention a few things.....

Please help[/QUOTE]

Hello, and welcome to this great site. You will find many helpful people here.

First let me say, 6 days post TKR is pretty soon to be expecting great things. This is a long process with a lot of hard work. I'm 6 months PO and still have swelling and fluid from time to time.

1. Low grade fever: As long as it's low grade it will probably go away soon. The Tylenol should help. My Ortho prescribed antibiotics which you will probably have to take for every procedure, even teeth cleaning, for years to come.
2. Yeast infection. This message board probably has a topic to help you with that.
3. Blood thinner. We probably all had to do the coumadine shots. It's to keep you from forming clots which could be more serious than the surgery.
4. Blood in urine. That doesn't sound like it's knee related. Drink plenty of water to flush out the kidneys. Check the message board.
5. The pain behind the knee will go away soon. I turned my ice pack around to the back of the knee from time to time. My worst pain was from the quad area and back. You will have to push through the pain to get extension. I warmed my knee with a heating pad before PT. That made the exercise easier.
6. No appetite: I was able to lose 20 lbs in my post op doing the PT. Your appetite will come back. Trust me on this one. I also used that time to try to eat healthier. The TKR not only saved my knee, but gave me a new beginning to a healthier lifestyle. I have cut down on all my BP medicine, bad Cholesterol is down. better HDL.
7. Tired all the time. Your body has gone through a traumatic ordeal. It may be weeks before you feel normal. I still have periods of fatigue. Keep in mind most on this board will tell you their Ortho's told them it was normal to take a year to completely recover from this surgery.
8. Constipation. It's from the pain meds. Try a stool softener temporarily until you can stop the pain meds.

All and all, you sound like you're doing pretty good for 6 days PO. Keep us informed as to your progress and know that we have all been through the same experience and will help any way we can.

Have you expressed these problems to your Ortho? At six days the stitches are still in so you should see him/her pretty soon.

Keep positive. It will be over soon.

Linda
Hi Barb70
I am the one who suggested reading blogs. My thought was that some of the women (they are mostly women) post their e-mail addresses and it seems to me they are inviting correspondence that way. I did not mean that you would find live chat sites on blogs!

Some of these bloggers live in isolated areas and might welcome an e-mail correspondence. The blogs usually have a place for comments on their posting and you could also leave your e-mail address and see if someone responds.

Strangely enough, I too used to be an avid reader, but since having the surgeries the past two years, I am not good at reading much anymore. Even the daily paper seems to be too much for me. It could be that surgery does take a lot out of our bodies - of which we are not aware. In my case I have moved to the city and although only about 5 blocks from the main city library, I can't get there on foot and don't wish to drive and find a parking place. Heavy city traffic.

Please have another look at blogs and see what you can find in the way of establishing human contact.

Shirley H.
I'm a Newby too, but hope I can help, or sympathize, with you with a few of the problems you are having. I had bi-lateral surgery on April 20th. First of all....6 days? I hope you are somewhere with continuing care. I went to a rehabilitation home and most of these problems were addressed. I understand the lowgrade temperatures are very common and nothing to worry about. I was given some tylenol when my temperature got to 101. They said the temperatures can last about 10 days, but I still had a lowgrade (99) 20 days after. Re the yeast infection...were you catherized (spelling??)? That can cause an infection which should be watched by your doctor. 90 degrees after 6 days?? I'd say that's really good! The rehab home where I stayed, some of the women couldn't even get that after a couple of weeks. (Patience!!) Swelling....again, very understandable! Realize what our bodies went through. Liifting your leg without help at 6 days...I would say that's great!! I think after 6 days, I had to have help lifting my legs to get back in bed. I'm taking Norco and I know the feeling of nausea. I was very nauseated (again, spelling?) one of the days in rehab and just slept for the whole day. They gave me ... can't think of the name ... that white peppermint medicine that lines your stomach and that really helped me. I only took it twice, but it really helped put me back in order. CONSTIPATION!!! Been there!!!! I think that was the worst pain, discomfort that I had through this whole thing!! They were giving me stool softners at the hospital. When I left there after 4 days and went to rehab, they left that off my medication list. I found out the hard way!! I would ask your doctor about perscribing that for you. I'm taking Colace for now...at least until I'm off my pain medicine. That's what causes the constipation from what I'm told. I'm also told the pain medicine is what causes loss of appetite. I'm just now able to actually think of food without getting an upset stomach! Tired? I think that's understandable also. Our bodies have been through a lot of trauma. Plus, if you're like me, it's not easy sleeping at night. I try to take cat naps when I can. I hope this helped a little... I know there are a lot of great people on this site and hope they'll add their comments. All I can say is have patience and take one day at a time. Best Regards, BearSher
Thanks Linda. It is now 10 days post surgical. Pain has reducd significantly, however i still have to take the tylenol 3 sometmes during the day. I have PT in Home . The Therapist states I am doing pretty well and I am pretty strong. He got my bend to about 95 degrees, flexion is still nowhere close to 0, better than -8 though. I can sitstand and walk with the walker. I wash myself, but need asistance from my caregiver for the rest.

I feel Soooooooooooo tired and whipped all thetime.

Trying to get prepared forthe Dr. visit Friday. I am blessed because the swelling is going down, no seepage as of yet from the surgical site, and the area is not hot...is a little warm though.

One of my BIG problems now is constipation.

Thank you for your Kindness,

Nervous12345
Thanks Linda. It is now 10 days post surgical. Pain has reducd significantly, however i still have to take the tylenol 3 sometmes during the day. I have PT in Home . The Therapist states I am doing pretty well and I am pretty strong. He got my bend to about 95 degrees, flexion is still nowhere close to 0, better than -8 though. I can sitstand and walk with the walker. I wash myself, but need asistance from my caregiver for the rest.

I feel Soooooooooooo tired and whipped all thetime.

Trying to get prepared forthe Dr. visit Friday. I am blessed because the swelling is going down, no seepage as of yet from the surgical site, and the area is not hot...is a little warm though.

One of my BIG problems now is constipation.

Thank you for your Kindness,

Nervous12345
[QUOTE=nervous12345;4251564]Thanks Linda. It is now 10 days post surgical. Pain has reducd significantly, however i still have to take the tylenol 3 sometmes during the day. I have PT in Home . The Therapist states I am doing pretty well and I am pretty strong. He got my bend to about 95 degrees, flexion is still nowhere close to 0, better than -8 though. I can sitstand and walk with the walker. I wash myself, but need asistance from my caregiver for the rest.

I feel Soooooooooooo tired and whipped all thetime.

Trying to get prepared forthe Dr. visit Friday. I am blessed because the swelling is going down, no seepage as of yet from the surgical site, and the area is not hot...is a little warm though.

One of my BIG problems now is constipation.

Thank you for your Kindness,

Nervous12345[/QUOTE]

My little recipe for the constipation was ground flax seed. I made a cocktail with plum juice and it really worked for me -- twice a day. I think the constipation was the worst part about the first two week. By the way -- sounds like you are progressing nicely!





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