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Is it possible for him to continue to eat so little and still be healthy?[/quote]

Yes, absolutely. And what your baby is drinking is NORMAL for a breastfed infant. 30ml's is about 1 ounce. My daughter, at 9 months old, has NEVER drank more then 2 ounces from a bottle in her entire life.

The thing you have to keep in mind is that breastfed babies tend to drink less, but more frequently. 120ml's is about 4 ounces. That is A LOT for a 2 week old baby that is breastfed. A lot!

[quote]s it likely there is something bigger wrong with him that means he is unable to eat a lot and effects his weight gain? [/quote]

It's entirely possible. The ecoli thing is sort of worrisome, but I don't have any experience with that, except that any infection can affect weight gain, and not just in new newborns! I would continue with the antibiotics and ask for a follow up from your doctor.

I would be more inclined to say though (based on the fact that you said he slept for 4 hours without a feeding) that you just have a sleepy baby who is not nursing enough.

[quote]Do babies always have to gain weight every week?[/quote]

Yes and no. I had MAJOR supply issues in the beginning, and for some legitimate reasons, and because of some bad advice, I ended up supplementing with formula. So much so that by the time my daughter was 10 weeks old she was practically formula fed. However, once I educated myself about breastfeeding (mostly by joining LLL and reading every breastfeeding website on the web) I decided that I was going to increase my supply and ditch the formula. Now she is breastfed again, and we haven't used formula since July.

So, I know a little bit about what it's like to obsess over what the scale says. You will drive yourself crazy. I finally stopped doing weekly weigh ins, and opted for monthly weigh ins. We just learned that my daughter is a slow gainer, regardless of what we put in her body (formula OR breastmilk), and that it was better to look at her weight gain over the period of a month, instead of obsessing about how many ounces she gained in 5 days. She has always been on the low end of normal, sometimes under.

I also learned to watch for other things, as the scale is not the only indication of health. For example, what goes in must come out. Is your baby having normal stools, and plenty of wet diapers? 5-6 diapers, and as many as 15 mustardy looking stools are considered normal (though as little as 1 or 2 stools are normal as well, just watch for the pee diapers).

I would also make SURE you feed the baby 10-12 times per day. I would not let the baby sleep for 4 hours without a feed. If he was gaining normally I would say fine, let sleeping babies lie, but I would make sure he eats AT LEAST ever 2-3 hours. At least. I would offer more. As much as he will still at the breast. Let him comfort suck as much as he wants. If you use a pacifier, ditch it. He is getting his sucking need from somewhere else, where as if he got it from you it would at least be nutritional as well.

And as for supplementing, if you must do it, use an SNS system. It's a 'supplemental nursing system', and it's designed to give the baby a supplement WHILE nursing at the breast. The thing you have to keep in mind is that supplementing will NOT increase your supply. If you feed your baby away from your body, your body won't know that it needs to make more milk. When milk is drained from your breast, that is a cue to make more. If you only nurse for 20 minutes and then give a bottle, your body is not getting the cue to make more milk. It will only make enough for 20 minutes of nursing, and as your son grows, that 20 minutes won't meet his nutritional needs, and you'll end up needing to supplement more and more. It's a vicious cycle!

I also suggest you deal with a lactation consultant who is trained in breastfeeding, not a public health nurse. They are notorious for being incorrect when it comes to breastfeeding.

[quote]I dont feel confident about breastfeeding now, which upsets me because we were doing so well I thought, he was happy, I was happy, and now I feel like if I continue with it he might not get enough milk and I wont know theres a problem.[/quote]

Oh honey, I feel for you!! ((HUG)) I wish I could give you a hug. I know EXACTLY how you feel. I really do. But if there is anything I've learned, it's how to trust my body, and listen to my baby. When I started watching HER (diapers, attitude, milestones, colour, etc) and not a scale, I was SO much happier. Not all baby's are created equal!! We're all individuals, and we all grow and mature differently. What the doctors are telling you are averages based on medical studies. Not all babies will fall into those statistics.

The other thing you have to keep in mind is that breastfeeding problems, like legitimate biological problems, are extremely rare. 99% of the population is capable of successfully breastfeeding, but there is so much BAD information out there that it ends up getting sabotaged. I was one of them!

We run into problems when we have high intervention pregnancies, labors, and deliveries. I was on pitocin for NINETEEN hours, being pumped full of fluids and antibiotics. My daughter was in the birth canal for 8 hours, and was so swollen and full of fluid that I have no doubt that her high birth weight was as a result of the fluids, not because she was a "big baby". But because she was so big, everyone had a conniption fit when she ended up being small, and the interventions I went through in having her effected the advice I was told when it came to breastfeeding. And on top of it, she was so traumatized from her own birth, and had jaundice, that EVRYTHING was more difficult then it needed to be. Everything leading up until the minute she was born effected our breastfeeding relationship - the pitocin, the antibiotics, the epidural, laying on my back for 36 hours, etc etc. We no longer do things the way nature intended when it comes to pregnancy and delivery, that it's no wonder we [i]can't[/i] do thing the way nature intended when it comes to breastfeeding. There is NOTHING natural about being hooked up to machines and laboring on your back. There is nothing natural about spinal blocks. Is it any wonder that this effects breastfeeding?

My advice is to get some movies or a good book, fix yourself a snack and a big drink of water, and take your baby to bed. Nurse, nurse, nurse, nurse, NURSE. All day long. If your baby wants to hang out at the breast, let him. This is what's known as a "nursing vaccation", and is the BEST thing for your supply (and his weight gain!).

Let him nurse all night long. If he's asleep for 2 hours, wake him and feed him. Do breast compressions while he's nursing. Keep him actively sucking for 15-20 minutes before letting him fall asleep (light pressure on his chin pushing up will get him sucking again, a cool wet cloth on the bottoms of his feet will get him sucking again, breast compressions will get him sucking again too). Try not to pull him off the breast. Even if he's asleep, if you have the time to hang out, wait for him to pop off. Let him nurse for as long as he wants on one side, then offer the other. If he doesn't want that one, start on it the next time, and so on and so forth.

Some herbs like fenugreek and blessed thistle are good for increasing your milk supply. You can get them in tea form or capsules. 3000mg per day of each (which usually works out to be 3 capsules of each, 3 times a day).

And last but not least - you can do it!! Don't loose faith in yourself and your body (or your baby). Take a deep breath and relax (yeah I know, easier said then done right?).

You'll make it through this. And when your baby is nursing while trying to stick his toe up your nose, you'll wonder what seemed so difficult. I have to say that the first 3-4 months were the hardest. Once you get through it though, it's smooth sailing. Hang in there. And if you ANY questions, don't hesitate to ask!

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