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Hey! I read some research from one dr. that success rates go up if you take a month off in between treatments. However, she goes on to say that if it is going to stress you out too much to take the month off, to go ahead and proceed. I have only done 2 IUI's both w/ follistim. When I go back, I will either go straight to IVF or do one more IUI with increasing the follistim and adding in lupron. That is when the time comes...I am not ready. There are 3 things that are telling me not yet. One, we are still working on our house and I want complete peace when going through another treatment. Second, we have to come out of pocket, probably $18-22k and it is not a great time...a couple of months down the road would be better, And third, I think I told you that I have fibromyalgia and I have been a bit more flared up than I usually get and that has to subside before doing anything. Okay, there's my update in the smallest shell I could fit it in...am I rambling? I went to Houston with some girlfriends who used to live there and it was great, I just started to feel really tired before we came home, so glad to be back.

As for you, this is your ticket. This is going to work for you, Doreen! You have been pg before, which is more than I can say, and you will be again very soon. I was really excited for you when I read that you had gotten to this level. More power to ya! In fact, you probably don't even need the buckets I'm sending ya...you can just return to sender when you wind up pg! ;)

I might not be proceeding yet, but I am here and want to hear your every detail...so keep me posted,okay? :wave: Jan
Hi Jan,
I can respect taking a break. I did that after my last miscarriage and again right before the holidays. It really helped to clear my mind and get ready for the roller coaster ride again. We all know how stressful this is! Good luck with the painting. My husband and I did sponge painting in our office, and I almost gave up! What a pain, but it really looked beautiful when it was done. I'm sure yours will come out the same. Good luck with that!

Hi Marie,
I tried IUI six times and got pregnant last July. I was on gonal-f. Have you had any success yet? What injectible are you using? Having any reactions? Hang in there! I'll keep my fingers crossed for you.

Hi Doreen,
My RE told me that I have "unexplained infertility" and I only have one functional fallopian tube. (One got damaged by the ectopic pregnancy). My DH also has a low sperm count (15 million is his average) and the Dr. said that it is not impossible to get pregnant, but IUI was only a 20% chance and IVF is 65% at my age and he has good success in his practice. Obviously not this time! Uh oh, I sometimes get a little negative, but I can usually pick myself back up again. I get so aggravated with my diagnosis because there is nothing to "fix!" It is very frustrating! What about you? What's your diagnosis? My first cycle of IVF I started with BC and the Lupron. I was on 10mg per night at first, and as soon as I started the stims, I went down to 5 mg per night. He put me on Follistim 225 mg, 1 bottle of Repronex and 1/2 cc of sterile water. That burned a lot when it went in, but it subsided after about 15 min. I was lucky enough not to get any side effects except for that with the stims. I didn't have any reactions when I did gonal-f with the IUI's. My RE suggested I move along to IVF because of only getting the benefit of one ovary and one tube combined with my DH's low sperm count, it was virtually impossible for me to conceive with IUI. It would take a long time and I have been trying for 4 years already. My baby sister just had her 2nd child, and that is really hard! They don't understand how I feel. They try, but they can't comprehend because starting their families were easy for them. Now, not only am I nervous wreck trying to get pregnant, but then I am afraid that I won't be able to carry the baby. My DH is very supportive, I am lucky with that. How is your husband? Mixing all the meds and remembering to take the vitamin, baby aspirin, and so the 2 injections every night is a lot. I made a chart. I guess that is the teacher in me! Very organized. The first time I did the intramuscular injection for the HCG was scary, but then it was fine. My back hurt a lot that night, but that was just my ovaries pumping away! The progesterone injections were OK once I got used to them. I can give you some tips to make them a little more comfortable once you start them. The retrieval wasn't bad, I just had period cramps afterward. The transfer felt just like an IUI to me. I didn't mind that much either. I had 21 eggs retrieved, 14 were mature and fertilized. I had 2 blastocysts transferred - one I was told was perfect, and the other was just OK. The embryologist wasn't very specific, and I wasn't sure what to ask. The rest were not good enough to be frozen. I have an appointment on 2/2 with my RE to go over my protocol this time. He is changing some of my meds and he will speak to the embryologist and get a more definitive answer for me on why they didn't take. I know that I wrote a book, and I would be glad to answer any questions or concerns that you have that I can help you with or just to listen. Thank you for letting me get a lot of stuff off of my chest. I think I will sleep better tonight. I am starting to feel a little desperate. Let me know how you are feeling. What stims/dosages are you on this cycle?

Hope to hear from you soon!
Hi Laura :wave:

I'm sorry to hear that your journey has been long and hard as well. {{{{{{ Laura}}}}}} I'm very gald that we will be cycling together though. I'm also glad that you feel better writing your story to me.

We suffer from male infertility- morphology..but the RE says that it isn't that bad so we fall under unexplained infertility as well. I went off BC in 1998 but my GYN did not feel the need to refer us to the RE until 2003. From 98- 03 we did temps, ovulation kits etc...

Once with the RE, I did 5 rounds of IUI's 2 with Clomid. First cycle i had 6 follies and the second 9 follies. I had horrible s/e from clomid BUT I got a BFP that I ended up having a D&C just shy of three months because the heart stopped beating. We had seen the heartbeat the two u/s prior :( After that I waited for a full two months for AF to arrive. I thought the witch was never gonna show again!! When she did decide to appear...she did so in a GUSH, on the ferry and I was wearing a summer dress... I was covered in blood. I was never more embarrassed in my life!!!
Then I did 3 IUI's with follistim each with 2 mature follies. My RE would not allow me to "grow" more than two mature follies with the follistim because of the high chance of multiples. I think that is nuts...obviously DH's guys need more targets...so no BFP from these 3 IUI's. Now I'm on to IVF.

I took my last BC this morning. I'm also taking my prenatals. I've been taking 20 units of Lupron since 1/17/05..which I will continue to take for 3 weeks YIKES!! They had warned me that my road with Lupron would be rough given what Clomid did to me. Clomid was BAD, Lupron is WORSE. I just didn't realize that it would be THIS rough.

All I know now is that I'm to wait for AF to arrive and start my stims.. 75 follistim, 75 Repronex, doxycycline for both DH and I, and 81mgs of baby asprins. the first thursday after AF arrives I go for my b/w & u/s. Dosages will be adjusted as needed. I stay on stims for about 10 days.
Novarel (HCG)- stop baby asprins-
2 days later-ER-done under anesthesia, start PIO shots, start doxcycline and baby asprins again and take medrol
Valium morning of ET

I have a chart on my fridge too! AND I'm NOT a teacher :D I don't think there is any other way to do it.

My DH wasn't very supportive for a long while. We finally had several heart to hearts and it was HIS feeling bad that I have to endure the treatments that was holding him back emotionally. He takes me to every appointment and has been very understanding this cycle.

As far as i know after ER we're supposed to ask the grade of the eggs and the cell counts- 8 I think is the best, or the best that I've heard aside from a blast. Did you do ICSI and AH?? Yeah, you probably did because of DH's #'s. I will be doing ICSI..AH will be decided the day of ET.

You are not alone with your feelings, I also feel very desperate now that I am at the IVF stage. I think before, it didn't occur to me that it wouldn't happen for us. Now with IVF, I know that we are at the end of the line so to speak. All of my siblings have children, and no, they do not understand what I am going through. I don't blame them...I would never have understood if i didn't have to walk this road either. I am frustrated and hurt and keep wondering why this is happening to me. It doesn't help when people say that things happen for a reason..what's the reason?? Would DH and I not be good parents? Or do our genes just suck? KWIM???

At this point my biggest fear is that when they retrieve my eggs they will find out that my egg quality is not good. When I had my D&C I had the fetus tested and it had 69 chromosomes- an extra strand...the egg or sperm didn't split or a two headed bugger got in there. This TERRIFIES me.

OK, now I wrote a book!!

TTYL,
Doreen
[QUOTE=DSAK143]Then I did 3 IUI's with follistim each with 2 mature follies. My RE would not allow me to "grow" more than two mature follies with the follistim because of the high chance of multiples. I think that is nuts...obviously DH's guys need more targets...so no BFP from these 3 IUI's.[/QUOTE]

Okay Doreen, I had NO IDEA that he wouldn't let you grow more than two. I agree with you on the ridiculous part. How frustrating! I heard the same speech about not getting too many...blah, blah, blah...but they pushed me and I got 6 both cycles (although I think 3 the first cycle and 2 the next cycle were at the right size by insemination day). Like I said, my body always o'd early on the drugs and tha is why I will have to use lupron too.

You and Laura both deserve kudos for your strength through these IVFs. You have both been through the mill and something good will come both your ways! Even though I didn't get to "suit up" this game - I am here on the sidelines rooting for you both!!!!!! Jan ;)





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