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Is anyone using Ezorb. I know Peregrine had good results with it. I think it is quite expensive. You have to take up to 8 tabs daily, for anyone under 160 lbs. Is this true? Might be willing to try anything, other than biophosphates.
Hi there - I'm not taking Ezorb but Pergrine is now taking something called Terramin (French green clay - it's been tested by NASA apparently). Anyway, it is a lot cheaper than Ezorb and I bought some a few weeks ago. I take one teaspoon in water a day (think that is the right dose). It's a bit like drinking sandy earth but I'll try anything to avoid what happened to my mother. I've found you need to drink it slowly rather than gulp it down. I'm also taking Fosamax (8-9 months) and an Indian herbal supplement called Reosto - if the combination of that lot doesn't do something then I don't know what I'll do:confused: I've also increased the amount of exercise I do (although I have done a lot for years). What is your score? My spine was worst at -2.8, hips and wrist were still in osteopenia range. I do get backache sometimes but don't know if that is due to exercise, sitting at computer or is in my head! It is difficult to know what to do.I'm going to insist on another bone scan after Xmas - I know if won't be offered unless I insist but I want to know whether there has been improvement or stayed the same or got worse. Good luck with whatever you decide to do.
Hi Suzieuk , My t-score for my spine was -3 last month. My hips were fine. I walk 4 miles every day and try to do osteopilates and weight exercises at least 4 times a week. I didn't always exercise. I was actually quite sedentary for at least the past year due to depression. The news of osteoporosis actually got me right up off my couch. Weird huh! Thanks for the information about green clay, I will definately look into it. Im taking strontium Dr. Bests and life extention vit k with k2 and citracal, plus magnesium, boron etc. Since you have done alot of exercises, are there any particular exercises you can reccomend, especially with weights for the spine. I would appreciate it. There are no exercise classes for osteoporosis in my are and i find exercise a little difficult to get going with, except the walking .
[QUOTE=tomatojuice]Hi Suzieuk , My t-score for my spine was -3 last month. My hips were fine. I walk 4 miles every day and try to do osteopilates and weight exercises at least 4 times a week. I didn't always exercise. I was actually quite sedentary for at least the past year due to depression. The news of osteoporosis actually got me right up off my couch. Weird huh! Thanks for the information about green clay, I will definately look into it. Im taking strontium Dr. Bests and life extention vit k with k2 and citracal, plus magnesium, boron etc. Since you have done alot of exercises, are there any particular exercises you can reccomend, especially with weights for the spine. I would appreciate it. There are no exercise classes for osteoporosis in my are and i find exercise a little difficult to get going with, except the walking .[/QUOTE]

Hi Tomatoe Juice: Where were you able to find a osteopilates tape/book? Can you find it at stores like Target, WalMart, etc. I've been trying to find a pilates tape that strictly does "[U]standing only[/U]" exercises. My problem is I can no longer get on the floor, and if I try, I have a horrendous time getting back up. What I usually have to do once on the floor is crawl to the nearest chair or couch to pull my self up, which is hard to do and very painful due to 7 failed lumbar fusions and many other spinal probs.

Could you let me know if this type of exercise, has the [B]Standing Only[/B] workout. I can do upper body weight bearing exercises, but the second I try to do 'any' core/low back/leg exercises, it causes extreme pain which puts me right back into bed, which I absolutely hate. I can't stand to be physically or mentally inactive for even the shortest amount of time. Simple walking for only ten minutes causes delayed intense pain, and the same goes for sitting, and stationary standing for more than 15 minutes. I've had to give up grocery shopping, clothes shopping etc, and have to steer clear of all large stores (Costco, Target) because I absolutley can't make it thru the entire store without my legs buckeling, but no falls yet.

I can't take any calcium, magnesium Vit D 3 supple... right now, because I have a mildly elevated inonized serum calcium level, and highly elevated D3 and until the dr can figure out what is causing it, I have to find exercises that don't cause unbearable over the top pain.

TIA for any help or sugesstions... Best of luck to you!!!!

Pam
You might have the elavated calcium, because you are not taking magnesium. You need to make sure you look at the elemental value of the magnesium and not merely the mg listed...there is a difference.
Posted by NHone:

[I]You might have the elavated calcium, because you are not taking magnesium. You need to make sure you look at the elemental value of the magnesium and not merely the mg listed...there is a difference.
Pam[/I]

Hi:NHone: I've been taking calcium, mag, and vit d plus many other vitamins, like B comp, Multi, all the fat soluable ones since I was 10 yrs of age (52 now). My mom was real big on taking mega doses of vits, plus encouraging a healthy diet, meaning no fast food, soda, etc. and always excercising. But I just found out in April that my calcium and vit d levels are of concern. I can't tell you off hand what the elemental value of mag I was taking, because I was always switching brands, but was told for years that I was taking the right combination of the 3. I'll have to look at my bottles to see if it lists the elemental value of mag, and see what it says. The only thing I can say is that the calcium to mag ratio on the brands I took was 2 (cal) to 1(mag). So if I was taking 1500 mg of cal then the mag was 750. I've only been off both of these for 1 month, till they do further testing.

How do you find the elemental value of mag?

Thanks for the info, but of course my mineral metabolism specialist has never mentioned this particular thing, but that doesn't surprise me. At the moment, she is only "slightly leaning" towards a thyroid/parathyroid problem that could be leaching the calcium from my bones. Last t score -3.6. I also have 2 thyroid nodules sitting on my carotids, so far they haven't been biopsied.

Pam
Hi Dessert Bloom I am sorry to hear you have so much pain. Also the book I got called Osteopilates doesn't have any standing exercises im afraid. I got it in the library.
[QUOTE=tomatojuice]Hi Dessert Bloom I am sorry to hear you have so much pain. Also the book I got called Osteopilates doesn't have any standing exercises im afraid. I got it in the library.[/QUOTE]


Thanks for your helpful reply....I hope you find the natural approach you're looking for. Unfortunately, I did all of the "many" natural approaches, so many I can't remember them all (42 years of it), and didn't get any positive results, t scores just declined. But we
're all different so who knows what will work for one and not another.

Best of Luck to you, and I'll keep you in my thoughts with hopes of much improvement!!!! in whatever you do. Continue to ask your many questions, because you can gleen a lot of info from that and you ask a lot of good questions. :angel: I'm still trying to find either standing yoga or pilates tapes that only involve this type of exercise. From the many years of doing yoga, weight bearing, swimming, etc, etc, that I know there has to be a routine derived from all of those that would give you the type of exercise I'm looking for. I used to do a yoga routine, that only involved standing and sitting exercises, so I guess I could go back to that since I have that dvd.

I have another *important question*, and that is what is your take on swimming exercises? I did these for a year and 3/4 which I was able to do, but my doc says that swimming "is not" a weight bearing exercise, similar to bike riding because of the lack of gravity. What do you think about this statement? When I was doing this we used all types of wieghts in the pool, but was still told this is not weight bearing because of the lack of gravity on all body parts. I've also read many articles that say swimming and bike riding are not considered weight bearing. Do you agree? I'm having a hard time with this theory.
Hi DessertBloom, I have also read that swimming and biking are not weight bearing exercises, but I think if your limited as to what type of exercise you can do, then if swimming is the only one you can do, you should do it, because some exercise is better than no exercise. also the benifits of exercise are many. Exercise changes your whole outlook on life. It can give you a feeling of general well being and all. It helps you to feel good. So whatever the exercise you will benefit. See you for now.
[QUOTE=tomatojuice]Hi DessertBloom, I have also read that swimming and biking are not weight bearing exercises, but I think if your limited as to what type of exercise you can do, then if swimming is the only one you can do, you should do it, because some exercise is better than no exercise. also the benifits of exercise are many. Exercise changes your whole outlook on life. It can give you a feeling of general well being and all. It helps you to feel good. So whatever the exercise you will benefit. See you for now.[/QUOTE]


Thanks Tomatojuice: I totally agree with you... Since I've been doing every type of exercise you can imagine since I was very young, I difinitely know what the mental, medical, and physical benefits are, which is why I have found it so frustrating that I haven't been able to find any core/legs/lower back exercises that I can do that doesn't make the pain "much" worse. As I mentioned before, I "can" do upper body exercises, which I do daily for an hour, but there are a few of these exercises that will pull the muscle in my lower back and make it worse, so I've just been eliminating those, and adding something that is upper body that doesn't hurt. Exercising one portion of my body is just not enough.

So far I have't been able to find an indoor pool in my area except at a PT office, and unfortunately have already used up all my insurance benefits for the year due to 12 weeks of rotator cuff surgery rehab.

But I'll keep looking and hope to find something. If I have to settle for an outdoor pool, I guess I'll have to do that, but in the winter, approaching soon, the temps drop to the teens and 20's during the morning hours that time of year. Once this weather starts, it's not uncommon for the mid day and afternoon temps to stay in the 40's and sometimes 50's.

Thanks for your advice, I really appreciate it...:blob_fire
[QUOTE=tomatojuice]Hi Suzieuk , My t-score for my spine was -3 last month. My hips were fine. I walk 4 miles every day and try to do osteopilates and weight exercises at least 4 times a week. I didn't always exercise. I was actually quite sedentary for at least the past year due to depression. The news of osteoporosis actually got me right up off my couch. Weird huh! Thanks for the information about green clay, I will definately look into it. Im taking strontium Dr. Bests and life extention vit k with k2 and citracal, plus magnesium, boron etc. Since you have done alot of exercises, are there any particular exercises you can reccomend, especially with weights for the spine. I would appreciate it. There are no exercise classes for osteoporosis in my are and i find exercise a little difficult to get going with, except the walking .[/QUOTE]
Hi there tomatojuice - I work out in the gym 3-4 times a week and do 40-45 mins of aerobic work (have recently started carrying weights whilst on the treadmill) followed by weights. I also try to walk for a hour or so at least once a week (more if the weather is good and I have time). I have just started Tai chi once a week (recommended by a natural practitioner I saw) - Tai chi is supposed to be very relaxing and good to combat stress(and depression and anxiety which is supposed to be a contributory factor with osteoporosis.I 've only been a couple of times but I am determined to keep it up as I can see it would be beneficial.I also bought a book (via amazon) called Exercises for Osteoporosis which I have found useful as it contains a number of exercises for the spine. The exercises are easy to do at home and can be done with minimal equipment. I believe the key to prevention is in good diet and exercise in your teens and early twenties (just the time when you are not likely to be sticking to a good diet and doing all the things you should be doing :) ) but of course I wasn't thinking about osteoporosis then. Despite all the exercise I have done for years it has not prevented it but I think I am luckier than my mother as it has been diagnosed early enough to do something. Anyway, I am going all out to do my best to halt the progress. I have been on Fosamax for 9 months now and taking the herbal supplements for 6 months and the last few weeks also taking Terramin (the clay).I'll go back to request another bone scan for early January so will let you know whether there has been any improvement or not. I've been lucky to have no side effects (that I am aware of) with Fosamax but I'm not happy about continuing for years. Let us know what you decide and good luck.





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