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As you can tell from all my posts, I am still struggling to get the correct balance of exercise/nutrition/supplementation to gave myself the best chance to keep my bones strong, and thanks again to all the posters on this board who share their time to help me, I really can't thank you all enough.

I take e-zorb like some of the other posters to this board. Since e-zorb lists the elemental calcium on the bottle, I don't know how to figure out how much calcium to get from my diet to get 1500 mg. daily, including the e-zorb.
I take 3 e-zorb pills in the morning and 2 pills at night before bed.

Since taking the e-zorb, I also increased my consumption of calcium containing foods, and everday I have one cup of collard greens or kale, one cup calcium fortified orange juice, one cup yogurt or half cup low fat ice cream, and less than a 1/4 cup almonds or sunflower seeds, and 1/2 cup of low-fat ricotta cheese. There is 60 mgs. of calcium in my multi-vitamin.

In other words, at what point do I have to worry that I am consuming too much calcium to be detrimental to my bone health.

I don't know if I'm getting too much calcium from the e-zorb and my diet, and I was wondering how much dietary calcium the other e-zorb using posters on this board are getting from their diets.

I meant to post this months ago, but I kept forgetting. I'm very frustrated not knowing how many mgs. of calcium to get from my diet while taking e-zorb.
Hi Jacal5 I share your frustration in determining the right amount of calcium from diet. I am not taking Ezorb, but I am taking Strontium at night. When you take strontium, you also need the correct amount of calcium during the day. I also supplement my diet with 1 cup of low-fat yogurt, 1/4 cup of ricotta cheese, fortified o.j., fortified soy milk-1 cup, fortified V8 juice, even fortified grapejuice. Try to eat broccoli or kale 3 x a week. Sardines once a week, etc. I take citracal 400 mg.daily. Magnesium 600 mg. daily , vit k, boron, omega 3 fatty acids etc. I guess if you can afford it, it would be nice to consult a nutritionist. Have you tried e-mail the people at Ezorb, I'm sure they would be glad to answer your question. Whenever I have asked them something , they have always answered, even though I am not even a customer.
I just wanted to mention that a good source of calcium from food is blackstrap molasses. I put a tbsp. on my yogurt daily. It provides about another 200 mg. of calcium. It comes in a pint bottle that last a few months.
Tomato juice, thanks so much for replying to my post and for the good suggestions. I am always looking for ways I haven't thought of to get calcium in my diet. I took calcium citrate a few years ago, and my bone density didn't improve, so that's why I switched to e-zorb and my spine went from osteopenia to normal. The e-zorb bottle states that magnesium and Vitamin D aren't needed for absorption, but I take them anyway, along with vitamin K, a pharmaceutical grade 3 tablet multi-vitamin (which contains some bone building minerals), and zinc. I take other supplement also, to lower my cholesterol.

Good luck with the strontium.

You are right, the E-zorb rep is very helpul, I will call hilm later today.

My nutrition needs are complicated because I am watching cholesterol and bone density, some foods that are good for cholesterol aren't good for bone density, like oat bran, red wine, etc., so I am trying to do it myself. A few years ago I went to a nutritionist (I thought my insurance would pay like they did in the past, but my company contracted a cheaper plan with the insurer, so I ended up paying her $150.00 an hour out of pocket) and I told her some of the food choices she picked for me wouldn't be good, and the resaons why, and she said, "you know more than I do, I should call YOU up for information on nutrition!" She is an author of a few nutrition books, so if I got that reaction from her, I would think it would be hard to find someone to plan a diet for me and I can't afford to look around paying nutritionists $150.00 an hour to see if I can find a good one, I have learned so much by reading this web-site and books, even a nurse commented to me that I know more about bone density than she did, and she was writing down notes on what I was saying!

I mentioned on another post that I am trying to get more balance in my meals, when I eat a calcium leaching acidic food like pork chops, I am balancing it with a calcium containing alkaline food like kale. I do the same thing with snacks. I avoid sodium containing foods, but I read sodium is good for your bones, but it has to be natural sodium like celery contains, so now I buy it for my salad.

My chiropractor told me the nutritional aspect of the bone density problem is very important, and I would like to be read more posts about different ideas to get calcium in my diet, or food products that posters have found in stores that contain a good portion of calcium, that aren't the obvious ones like fortified orange juice. I bought calcium and Vitamin C fortified unsweetened apple sauce in Trader Joe's last week.
Tomato Juice:

You might want to do some research on soy and phytic acid, since you are drinking soy milk to get calcium. Soy contains more phytic acid than any other grain or pulse, and phytic acid impairs absorption of all minerals, ESPECIALLY CALCIUM, so soy actually strips the body of calcium. Soy also absorbs a lot of aluminum from the ground, and that's not good to ingest either, there are other problems with it also.

I addressed soy on another post, I don't know if you read it, I avoid it like the plague, and it's not easy to do because almost every food product on the shelf contains soy; cereals, breads, nutrition bars, etc.

I went to Whole Foods a few weeks ago and a girl from London was giving
a facial with her products containing soy, and she asked me if I ate soy. I said no, and she looked shocked because I told her I knew it is bad for the body, she told me not many people know that. She uses it for facials because it draws everything out of the skin, but she said she would never eat it because it draws everything out of the body.

I just realized by writing this post that the facialist was confirming what I read and wrote about phytic acid, that it draws minerals out of the body.

If you decide not to drink soy milk after your research, you can substitue it with almond milk.

Good luck!
[QUOTE=jacal5]...In other words, at what point do I have to worry that I am consuming too much calcium to be detrimental to my bone health.
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My layman's opinion: Have your doctor test your blood for calcium levels (it should be part of your yearly physical anyway). I think if your blood calcium is in the normal range, then your calcium intake is sufficient. Of course, just because the calcium is in your bloodstream does not mean it will get to your bones; for that you also need Vitamin D, magnesium, Vitamin K, and probably many other things. But if your blood calcium levels are normal, then you don't need more calcium. If your blood calcium levels are high, then you need to cut back.
[QUOTE=PikaB]My layman's opinion: Have your doctor test your blood for calcium levels (it should be part of your yearly physical anyway). I think if your blood calcium is in the normal range, then your calcium intake is sufficient. Of course, just because the calcium is in your bloodstream does not mean it will get to your bones; for that you also need Vitamin D, magnesium, Vitamin K, and probably many other things. But if your blood calcium levels are normal, then you don't need more calcium. If your blood calcium levels are high, then you need to cut back.[/QUOTE]

PikaB... I agree with you on this because I had a situation occur where I had to stop "all" calcium supplements and I wouldn't have known about it unless I had a "serum ionized calcium test" Before I started on forteo, my internist did the regular calcium test-don't know the name of it- and it came back normal. I then went to an Endo for another reason, and he ordered a serum ioniz...test. That test came back with my serum calcium elevated and also my D3, my urinary calcium was normal and so was PTH, T3 etc. Since this test was done, I've stopped all calcium, mag, and D supplements, but continued eating calcium rich foods, but not in excess.

I've taken calcium, mag, D, multi, B complex, fat soluble vits since I was 10 yrs old. My mom was a great believer in vits, herbs, and a fast food free diet, and I always exercised from an early age (sports etc). Anyway, the point is I thought what I was doing as far as vits go was correct, now I find out that for now I have to stop the calcium until they can figure out what's going on. I asked the dr. what could happen with this prob if I continued to take it, and besides the possible kidney stones, she said it could also be setting me up for a stroke in the future. For now I'm off of calcium, but hope at some point to return to it if I can.

Good Luck...

Pam
Hi Jacal5 I had no idea about the phytic acid in soy. I went to a few different sites and read about it, and have decided to phase soy out of my diet. Thanks so much
hi again Jacal5 I actually have changed my mind about eliminating soy from my diet. iI found an article, written by John Robbins. If you want read it go to The Food Revolution and clic on What About SoY ? It sounds llike soymilk has low amounts of phytic acid and so does tofu, eating one or two servings is not going to cause malabsortion of minerals. You would have to consume large amounts of soybeans, for that to happen.
Your welcome, I'm glad I made you aware of phytic acid from my research, so you so can make an informed decision whether to eat/drink soy or not.

I also read that soymilk contains 100 times more aluminum (which can cause bone loss), than cow's milk. Another problem with soy that I read about is it's been genetically modified in the U.S., so it's not the same soy as Japan consumes.

The other problem is that so many products contain soy now, so we are ingesting it from many sources like bread, cereal, cookies, health bars etc. If I see soy in the product description, I put it back on the shelf. I read that the farmers had a glut of soy, and that's why it worked itself into all the products (I don't remember the exact details of how that occurred, whether the government bought it from the farmers, or what).

There are many articles about soy on-line that are pro or con, but I chose to believe the ones that state soy is dangerous, right or wrong on my part.

Thanks so much to the posters who gave me the tip about the calcium blood tests! I also wrote to e-zorb to found out how much dietary calcium to consume with their product, I'll post their response.





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